Can someone tell me specifically why the Hyosungs are bad?

[Lozza2442]

It this all just like the rivalry re Honda/Harley/Suzuki? Is it just bike snobbery or something more specific? (bad parts/badly made etc)

I'm not looking to get one I'm just curious.

Plz no generic "Hyoshit is SHIT purely cause it's shit". Reasons plz kthx.

[bogan]

There's no rivarly between honda/harley/suzuki, harley and suzuki just want you to think there is so you'll also think their bikes are almost as good.

Hyoshit used standard Korean production materials and QC (or lack thereof) when they first came out. I think they have got better since though. For reliability and performance, you're probably better off with a 10 year old jap (or 15 if it is a honda) bike than a new hyoshit.

[Swoop]

Dangerousbastard loves them.

That is enough evidence, all by itself.

[Katman]

They were shit when they first started coming into the country.

They've come a long way since then.

Much the same as Hyundai.

[Glowerss]

It this all just like the rivalry re Honda/Harley/Suzuki? Is it just bike snobbery or something more specific? (bad parts/badly made etc)

I'm not looking to get one I'm just curious.

Plz no generic "Hyoshit is SHIT purely cause it's shit". Reasons plz kthx.

Because they're new to producing bike (within last 10 years), they're still working on quality control issues. Particularly in the early models, things like the digital speedo cluser were prone to shorting and exploding. Nuts and bolts not being tightened properly, things rusting.

They're much much better nowadays, but they still have a lot of refining to do. Hyosungs 650 is based off of Suzukis SV650. They even produced them for suzuki for a number of years. But if you ride an SV650 and then jump on a hyosung 650, the difference in quality and refinement is pretty clear. That's not to say the Hyosungs are bad. Considering the short time they've been doing proper motorcycles, they're actually doing quite well. They just haven't reached the 50 years of experience the big jappa companies have.

That, and the 250 hyosungs are FAAAARKIN heavy underpowered fuckin things with a turning radius of the moon. Hyosungs getting there though.

[bogan]

they're still working on quality control issues

that's a generous way of saying they didn't bother with any :bleh:

[White trash]

I ask you this. When was the last time a Homoda won a production based, NZ National Road racing championship? I could be wrong but I reckon 10 years ago almost with an angry, short, ginga hangin off the tiller.

Suzuki is where it's at, no fucking question.

[willytheekid]

:corn:
http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/jfa2492l.jpg

:laugh:

[Akzle]

i'm sure plenty could.

i'm not going to be one of them. instead i'll refer you to the "search" box in the top right hand corner. and there's this new-fangled website out at www.google.com

[bogan]

I ask you this

and I answer with this...
http://www.inkjetmall.com/rc30/IMG_3886-600.jpg

[Hawk]

i'm sure plenty could.

i'm not going to be one of them. instead i'll refer you to the "search" box in the top right hand corner. and there's this new-fangled website out at www.google.com (http://www.google.com)

Hate to tell you this but Google been around while

[Lozza2442]

i'm sure plenty could.

i'm not going to be one of them. instead i'll refer you to the "search" box in the top right hand corner. and there's this new-fangled website out at www.google.com

That's all well and good, but it's much more fun to ask you lot and watch the debates unfurl. I'd rather watch abuse than trawl through pages and pages of posts.

[Hawk]

and I answer with this...
that doesn't look like Bros 650 :oi-grr:

[DEATH_INC.]

:corn:
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:laugh:
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[wharekura]

For me it was price. Since getting 6f I have been looking to upgrade from the hyo gv250 but cannot find anything that looks as good as the gv around the 400cc-600cc, 2004 onwards range for the same money.

I get spare parts direct from Korea and got a recent service that included valve clearances for $277 incl (not incl parts as I import what I can)

If your budget is tight (sub 4k) and u want an upgrade from a sub 250 to a 250 and on a 6l or 6r, then I would recommend a gv250. if u worried about the hyo stigma, u can always take the decals off

[onearmedbandit]

Hate to tell you this but Google been around while

I don't know who's being more sarcastic. Wonder if this new-fangled website called google could tell me.

[Gremlin]

They were shit when they first started coming into the country.

They've come a long way since then.

Much the same as Hyundai.
And with that, the thread is done...

[The Lone Rider]

Hi, I can answer every question you want towards Hyosung.

Just visit this link, and it has everything about them.

The Truth About Hyosung in NZ (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/search.php)

[Maha]

They were shit when they first started coming into the country.

They've come a long way since then.

Much the same as Hyundai.

These words are the truth to the question.
Swoop does have a point though...;)

[Maha]

I ask you this. When was the last time a Homoda won a production based, NZ National Road racing championship? I could be wrong but I reckon 10 years ago almost with an angry, short, ginga hangin off the tiller.

Suzuki is where it's at, no fucking question.

Love the Suzuki GSXR promo...'Own the racetrack'....yeah, at Ruapuna....:motu:

[Tigadee]

It this all just like the rivalry re Honda/Harley/Suzuki? Is it just bike snobbery or something more specific? (bad parts/badly made etc)

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/148284-Bad-rep-for-Hyosung?highlight=hyosungs+bad

[Swoop]

I'm wondering if Huyosung's are bad after all.
DrunkenMistake threw away a nice Honda VFR to get one...:eek5:

[willytheekid]

I ask you this. When was the last time a Homoda won a production based, NZ National Road racing championship? I could be wrong but I reckon 10 years ago almost with an angry, short, ginga hangin off the tiller.

Suzuki is where it's at, no fucking question.

:blink:

But you meet the nicest people on a honda! :confused:

http://www.motorcycle.com/images/content/Review/hon1.gif
...see, even santa has one! :laugh:

[G4L4XY]

I had a Hyosung '06GTR

Speedo was replaced by previous owner. Then when I bought it the temp guage didn't work and later the rev guage backlight failed to work.
At over $300 for a replacement unit I just went without haha.
Sidestand switch liked to fuckout all the time.
Spark plug cracked on me once too, had to ride home under 6k revs otherwise it would backfire like crazy and cutout :(

[Madness]

Buy a Kawasaki. Why? Because nobody's mentioned that marque in this thread yet and I like mine.

I remember when the Hyo Aquila came out a few moons ago. Fookin ugly as sin but they could hold their own on the road with a decent pilot (what was the name of the short-arsed salesman at TSS when they started?).

[sootie]

I waited around Cycletreads for 30 minutes or so a couple of months ago while getting a tyre replaced. Poked my nose into everything while waiting as one does. One of the two interesting conversations I had with one of the staff (who were not busy) concerned Hyosung motorcycles. I asked what he thought of them. Considering that Cycletreads are agents, I was amazed at this guy's honesty. He told me that progress was pretty much as it had been with early Japanese motor vehicles, ie they were still having a lot of QA hassles with them, but it should eventually sort itself out, and it was improving. This seems to tie in with Gremlin's comments.

[SMOKEU]

Suzuki is where it's at, no fucking question.

For quality you still can't beat a Honda, and both of the bikes I own are Suzukis.

[tigertim20]

It this all just like the rivalry re Honda/Harley/Suzuki? Is it just bike snobbery or something more specific? (bad parts/badly made etc)

I'm not looking to get one I'm just curious.

Plz no generic "Hyoshit is SHIT purely cause it's shit". Reasons plz kthx.

without reading the rest of the thread, Its not that they are shit, its that they arent particularly well established yet. when something is new, everyone assumes it will be shit.

Th reality is that the first hyosungs did have quite a few teething issues, but then, so have many reputable brands when they have released new models. Poeple are unwilling to accept that a newcomer to the market might actually be on a similar par with the competition.

Hyundai are a good example, didnt have a real good rep a few years ago, but that has changed, my work recently purchased a fleet for our branch and went with hyundai, and theyre pretty good, our work requires that the vehicles get a hard time, and they are doing well.

Its not so much that they are shit, its that people want to see the proof in terms of longevity, they are getting there, and the failings thay have had are slowly getting worked out, but you do need to look at the prices as well, take say a comet 650, and compare to say a suzuki and a kwak equivalent, they are cheaper because they use a bot of older tech

[actungbaby]

I ask you this. When was the last time a Homoda won a production based, NZ National Road racing championship? I could be wrong but I reckon 10 years ago almost with an angry, short, ginga hangin off the tiller.

Suzuki is where it's at, no fucking question.

yes and they deserve to be in new zealand they ones backed the racing big time

[FJRider]

That, and the 250 hyosungs are FAAAARKIN heavy underpowered fuckin things with a turning radius of the moon. Hyosungs getting there though.

But ... they're cheap ... so people buy them.

[Drew]

Haven't read anyone elses opinion, but it will be wrong if it doesn't agree with me so there's no point.


Why is it, do you think, that nearly NO Hyosung 250 riders, upgrade to the 650?

Hyosung is responsible in part for a huge increase in young people getting interested in bikes again in NZ, but the product is not as good as nearly everyone elses.

[White trash]

Haven't read anyone elses opinion, but it will be wrong if it doesn't agree with me so there's no point.


Why is it, do you think, that nearly NO Hyosung 250 riders, upgrade to the 650?

Hyosung is responsible in part for a huge increase in young people getting interested in bikes again in NZ, but the product is not as good as nearly everyone elses.

This is fairly interesting, I wonder if someone could get hold of Eyegasm and ask his thoughts on what's proved to be more reliable. His 07 GT250R Hyosung which had done 43,000km when he traded it or his 07 ZX6R done early 20's? I recently sold a GT650 to a dude with a 2006 GV250 he'd had since new and done 106000 trouble free kays on. Replaced it because it started to have a funny rattle.

[Drew]

This is fairly interesting, I wonder if someone could get hold of Eyegasm and ask his thoughts on what's proved to be more reliable. His 07 GT250R Hyosung which had done 43,000km when he traded it or his 07 ZX6R done early 20's? I recently sold a GT650 to a dude with a 2006 GV250 he'd had since new and done 106000 trouble free kays on. Replaced it because it started to have a funny rattle.

Doesn't agree with me...So it's wrong.

I pre-empted this people, for fuck sakes I'm surrounded by morons!

[FJRider]

Haven't read anyone elses opinion, but it will be wrong if it doesn't agree with me so there's no point.

Of course your opinion is important to us ... and we are eager to hear what you have to say ... :innocent:


Why is it, do you think, that nearly NO Hyosung 250 riders, upgrade to the 650?

Probably because it's only got twice the horsepower than the 250 ... :whistle:


Hyosung is responsible in part for a huge increase in young people getting interested in bikes again in NZ, but the product is not as good as nearly everyone elses.

But only keep them untill the warranty runs out ... :dodge:

[fastoyz]

i think they are a pretty good bike up to the 20-25k km mark, then its all down hill from there.

[Teflon]

I'm yet to see a hot bitch posing with a hyosung.. I've come to the conclusion that only queers ride them

[FJRider]

i think they are a pretty good bike up to the 20-25k km mark, then its all down hill from there.

Going downhill everywhere is reccommended on Hyo's ... :shifty:

[merv]

Doesn't agree with me...So it's wrong.

I pre-empted this people, for fuck sakes I'm surrounded by morons!


He's your Bro' so he's allowed to argue with you isn't he?

[Drew]

Searched for a pic of a model draped over a Hyosung. I couldn't find one.

What I did find, was a Hyosung I want!

[FJRider]

I'm yet to see a hot bitch posing with a hyosung.. I've come to the conclusion that only queers ride them

I thought that was why they invented honda's ... :confused:

[Usarka]

Searched for a pic of a model draped over a Hyosung. I couldn't find one.


Amateur.....

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3527/3296187830_46b1e48410.jpg

PS - you didn't say a good one...!

[rapid van cleef]

I rode a hyo 250(2005) once. It looked good .....from a few metres away. However, it felt cheap and nasty in every regard compared to my older jap litre bike. The owner had it fall over once, by acident of course and the clip on snapped in half! Theres been loads of issues with the fueling on it also. They are fixed now. But, as a cheapie bike, i think its ok. Certainly better by comparison than my first car.

Like others have said, I'd rather buy a 10 year old jap bike than a 5 yr old hyo.

[ducatilover]

Hmm let me see.
The Hyoshits are good value for money.
Early ones had issues, the general majority of which got fixed.
No they're not as well built as a Jap brand who have spent far more money on making the product, but they aren't aimed at that market really.

The 250 is simply a boring commuter.
The 650 is an SV650 engine (which to my albeit limited knowledge has always been produced by Hyosink under licence for Suboringzuki) in a wonderfully heavy frame with cheap suspension and superbly tacky design, much the the 250.

So essentially one is like a cheaper Ninja 250, that normal size people fit on
The other is a fat sack of boring.

The same applies for the GV series
And I don't think Hyoboys are new to the bike game either, I'm sure they've been doing it a while

[Zamiam]

They just haven't reached the 50 years of experience the big jappa companies have.

or the 110 years of Harleys

[ducatilover]

or the 110 years of Harleys

Yup, they build a properly high quality product.

[Zamiam]

Yup, they build a properly high quality product.

And they got it so right they haven't changed the design in all that time

[GrayWolf]

or the 110 years of Harleys

or the OLDEST bike manufacturer in the world, Its the ROYAL ENFEILD which is 116 years old... google it :D

[eelracing]

and I answer with this...

Yep, they've been holding up Gixxers for years.

Theres an RC30 for sale at Keown Honda In Wanga's currently...18k and it's yours.

[Conquiztador]

Much the same as Hyundai.

Thought that was a car. Shows how little I know...


I had a Hyosung '06GTR

Speedo was replaced by previous owner. Then when I bought it the temp guage didn't work and later the rev guage backlight failed to work.light required. New light required. A small bolb. Can happen to anyone.
At over $300 for a replacement unit I just went without haha. You planned to replace the rev gauge because the light failed????
Sidestand switch liked to fuckout all the time. Seriously, is there ppl that do not disconnect the annoying things???
Spark plug cracked on me once too, had to ride home under 6k revs otherwise it would backfire like crazy and cutout :( Let me get this right... Hyosung makes spark plugs???

I knew a girl who rode a 250 sports one of them a few years ago. She then moved on to a Triumph. The Hyosung served a purpose. I recon it fits the beginner market. Once you have your wings you get rid of them. Re the issues: One problem they tend to have in common with Chinese scooters is the crappy steel they use.

[ducatilover]

And they got it so right they haven't changed the design in all that time

I know, they still have one wheel at the front and one at the rear! :laugh:

[Sable]

The number one reason to avoid Hyosungs is as simple as there are so many far, far better bikes for so much less on the second hand market. Just putting it out there.

[slowpoke]

The 650 is an SV650 engine (which to my albeit limited knowledge has always been produced by Hyosink under licence for Suboringzuki) in a wonderfully heavy frame

I think this is a myth that Hyosung are keen to keep alive, trading off the Suzuki name. It's my understanding that Hyosung employed the SV650 engine designer to design them a similar engine.....you can judge for yourself how well they build an engine in comparison to Suzuki......:shutup:

[nzspokes]

Mates got a GV250. At 17000k it siezed. Missed one 4k oil change.

Mechanic said he had seen 10 others do the same thing.

[Maha]

The metal used when they first came out had the same consistancy as a Twix Chocolate bar...:confused:

[Fatt Max]

I've had my GV250 now for over 2 years. Its got 26,000 on the clock and is still running sweet. Now, as many of you know, I am a big fat bastard and this bike can haul my arse along very nicely thank you very much.
I use it for commuting and have also done a few good out of town runs on it, its been to Wellington and back without even a spit.
I find it easy to work on, look after and its cheap to fuel up. Its a big framed bike making it fat bastard friendly and I love it.
Thats my story, I'm off to the pool room...

[Drew]

The 650 is an SV650 engine (which to my albeit limited knowledge has always been produced by Hyosink under licence for Suboringzuki) in a wonderfully heavy frame with cheap suspension and superbly tacky design, much the the 250.

No, it fuckin isn't!

The SV650 motor has featured in one other bike. The Cagiva Raptor.

[wharekura]

Why is it, do you think, that nearly NO Hyosung 250 riders, upgrade to the 650?
I have a gv250 and got my 6f about a month now so looking to upgrade. i wont consider the 650 due to price, ugliness, rego price increase and want to take a small step up in power like a 400cc to 600cc.

mine is a commuter and had no problems for a year so far.

[nzspokes]

I've had my GV250 now for over 2 years. Its got 26,000 on the clock and is still running sweet. Now, as many of you know, I am a big fat bastard and this bike can haul my arse along very nicely thank you very much.
I use it for commuting and have also done a few good out of town runs on it, its been to Wellington and back without even a spit.
I find it easy to work on, look after and its cheap to fuel up. Its a big framed bike making it fat bastard friendly and I love it.
Thats my story, I'm off to the pool room...

Well I know where there is a parts bike sitting.....

[FJRider]

The number one reason to avoid Hyosungs is as simple as there are so many far, far better bikes for so much less on the second hand market. Just putting it out there.

But the common belief that new is better ... overides that opinion. Regardless of actual fact.

[Madness]

But the common belief that new is better ... overides that opinion. Regardless of actual fact.

You're referring to DrunkenMistake again?

[FJRider]

And they got it so right they haven't changed the design in all that time

They still build Morris Oxfords in India NEW ... using the original british supplied tools and die's ...

It doesn't make it better that nothing was changed since ... and they weren't that great then.

[FJRider]

You're referring to DrunkenMistake again?

Not as such ... such assumptions could be considered rude ... <_<

Everybody wants to buy new. Must be better ... right ... ??? :shutup:

[AllanB]

Hobag were making small engines for Suzuki - pretty sure the 650 is their first big one - obviously based on Suzukis but I do not believe they were actually making SV engines for Suzuki.

[Old Steve]

When I bought my first bike I was budget constrained, so a 2005 (06 registered) Hyosung GV250 met my financial limits. It had 9000 km on the clock and had been let go a little. I did 24,000 km in 20 months on that bike, rides up to 400 + km, comfortable and easily handled (cruiser so the c of g was down low).

Faults? Bad chroming on the 05 and 06 I understand, but I believe it got better.
Indicator switch, I replaced it myself at about 15,000 km.
Replaced the front and rear sprockets and chain at about 13,000 km - think the original owner didn't perform the necessary levels of preventative maintenance on the chain. I fitted a ScottOiler with the new chain and sprockets and by 33,000 km when I sold her I'd only had to adjust the new chain once.
Had the Suzuki Intruder gearbox glitch, you couldn't find neutral with the engine running - I could talk for hours to Suzuki Intruder owners about that gearbox. You turned the engine off, found neutral, then started the engine again.
You couldn't pass anything above 100 km/hr, though I could cruise forever at 120 km/hr.

When looking to move up I was considering the Hyosung ST-7 and the Suzuki Boulevard M50, chose the M50 because it's shaft drive, but they're both very comfortable bikes for a short arse. I think the ST-7 is a little more powerful, 48.4 kW vs 46.5 kW for the M50 and 63.7 Nm vs 62 for the M50 (albeit both are at higher revs for the Hyosung).

Bottom line, would I buy my 2005 GV250 again as a first bike knowing what I know now. Yes, no hesitation. Would I consider a Hyosung ST-7, maybe if the price is right (I got my 2010 M50 with 1900 km on the clock for $9000, you'd probably be looking at just slightly more for a one year old demonstartor ST-7 with similar mileage, so I'd probably go for the M50 again).

[Swoop]

But ... they're cheap ... so people buy them.
Perfect for NZ then...:facepalm:

Amateur.....
PS - you didn't say a good one...!
Hopefully not a typical hyosung rider. She doesn't appear to realise which way you sit on it to ride it.:facepalm:

[ducatilover]

No, it fuckin isn't!

The SV650 motor has featured in one other bike. The Cagiva Raptor. I type corrected. The riding god has spoken.


They still build Morris Oxfords in India NEW ... using the original british supplied tools and die's ...

It doesn't make it better that nothing was changed since ... and they weren't that great then.

I would happily own one, which means, they're impossibly shite.

[tigertim20]

I think this is a myth that Hyosung are keen to keep alive, trading off the Suzuki name. It's my understanding that Hyosung employed the SV650 engine designer to design them a similar engine.....you can judge for yourself how well they build an engine in comparison to Suzuki......:shutup:

yeah. My understanding was that Hyosung were making some bits and pieces for Suzuki under contract, then hyosung decided to basically produce a cheaper version of the SV, which is of course the GT650/GT650R. not the same engine at all, but the pre-existing arrangement between hyosung and suzuki made the rumour easy to believe.

[Drew]

yeah. My understanding was that Hyosung were making some bits and pieces for Suzuki under contract, then hyosung decided to basically produce a cheaper version of the SV, which is of course the GT650/GT650R. not the same engine at all, but the pre-existing arrangement between hyosung and suzuki made the rumour easy to believe.Easy to believe till you look at the bloody things! Some people will believe anything I reckon.

[mossy1200]

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Lams version but 10k.
and the 250 is 8k

same price as a ninja or cbr250 new
Think idd be more into the CBR250 even though its a single cylinder at the same price.


I thought that the hyo was alot cheaper but it seems not and on that note Im not sure why and how they sell so many.

[ducatilover]

I thought that the hyo was alot cheaper but it seems not and on that note Im not sure why and how they sell so many.

They were 5k new when they released the GT250.
8k is way too much for such a basic heap.

[AllanB]

Best PR ever - introduce a new brand onto a market with the story you were making engines for a well respected one.

[KIPS powervalve]

In spite of everything, these bikes are very comfortable. Going from an FZR250 to GT250 is like going from being stuck on a barbed wire fence that keeps trying to kill you, to being put in a nice squishy wingback chair. Unfortunately the Hyo handles like such a chair:sick:. Also, they have a propensity for just being a bit stink. I have one and by bro had one. Both had/have problems that are distinct. Mine has carb/fuel delivery/electrical issues (nobody can tell me what is is - engine runs OK when cold or wet until you try to exceed 6000RPM, then it just kind of shits itself) and his one had a short circuit somewhere so he was constantly roll starting it. That blew the CDI and regulator rectifier and cost a bundle to fix. Fortunately, instead of costing almost $1000 for 2 parts in NZ he got them for around $300-400 direct for Korea. And quickly too. Never did find the short