View Full Version : A rule that all race bikes must be road registered!
jellywrestler
11th September 2012, 17:55
yep that was in the olden days, anyone remember when that rule was ditched?
MIXONE
11th September 2012, 17:58
Fuck what a good idea.Then all them dangerous racers would pay there share of the acc.
neels
11th September 2012, 18:10
Probably about the same time people stopped driving their cars to Bathurst for the 500, and racing with the spare wheel and jack in the boot.
wharfy
11th September 2012, 18:54
I bought a TM125 in 1975 and it had to be regidtered.
The Chow
11th September 2012, 19:15
E class A plates . All bikes that were raced on public roads had to have these. It was dropped In late 70's early 80's, I'm sure. E Class A was for farm bikes normally , less tax paid or something like that.I had a couple of race bikes with plates , but proddie bikes were normally registered anyway. Those old pic are great.
Grumph
11th September 2012, 19:16
yep that was in the olden days, anyone remember when that rule was ditched?
In fact it was ALL bikes. Luckily there were licence classes which suited...I can't remember the class but there was one for farm bikes which let you do a nominal road mileage per year and which was quite cheap - as you'd expect for a cockies perk.
All mine and most of my mates ones were on that rego class. Finished mid 70's I think when the farm lobby got their way and farm bikes didn't have to be registered.
That Manx looks bloody familiar - is it Bryan Scobie ? I had a 3 piece fairing just like that on the bike I bought off Bryan and it was the only one I ever saw....
The Chow
11th September 2012, 19:25
In fact it was ALL bikes. Luckily there were licence classes which suited...I can't remember the class but there was one for farm bikes which let you do a nominal road mileage per year and which was quite cheap - as you'd expect for a cockies perk.
All mine and most of my mates ones were on that rego class. Finished mid 70's I think when the farm lobby got their way and farm bikes didn't have to be registered.
That Manx looks bloody familiar - is it Bryan Scobie ? I had a 3 piece fairing just like that on the bike I bought off Bryan and it was the only one I ever saw....
E class A was the class Grumph / Still have a number plate with the sticker on , can't remember what it was off. May be my TR2-B Yamaha .
Kiwi Graham
11th September 2012, 19:28
FFS Dont tell Billy
SPman
11th September 2012, 19:46
Probably about the same time people stopped driving their cars to Bathurst for the 500, and racing with the spare wheel and jack in the boot.
And driving their race cars to Puke......I passed Ivy Stevenson once , on the motorway, going to Puke in her Lotus 23 sports car........
GD66
11th September 2012, 19:54
That Manx looks bloody familiar - is it Bryan Scobie ? I had a 3 piece fairing just like that on the bike I bought off Bryan and it was the only one I ever saw....
It's the Whangarei rider Graeme Lacy. Scobe always rode #4, he was a good dude. His brother Bruce (Boof) rode #14.
Motu
11th September 2012, 20:11
And driving their race cars to Puke.......
The Lycoming Special was never trailered - Jim Boyd would toss a bag into the Lycoming and drive it to Teratonga, race, and then drive it home again for work on monday.
All bikes were registered new - when I put my Rickman Metisse on the road in 1974 I used it's original plate....all numbers like the one in the OP. When I lost that plate I was told there was no such thing as an all number plate....I produced the original ownership papers to prove it did exist. The bike was never intended for road use....but still had a plate.
budda
11th September 2012, 22:08
I bought a TM125 in 1975 and it had to be regidtered.
same for my RM-S and my bros TM - used to put the plates on to run 'em in on the road, much to the old mans chagrin !
Think you can still "E" register, self-propelled farm equipment or somesuch .........
jellywrestler
11th September 2012, 22:18
Then all them dangerous racers would pay there share of the acc. they already pay the same as rugby players, skiers, mountain climbers, cyclists and boaties with or without lifejackets
MIXONE
11th September 2012, 22:29
they already pay the same as rugby players, skiers, mountain climbers, cyclists and boaties with or without lifejackets
Don't forget the cricket players.My son has got a nose job in his future courtesy of a cricket bat.
Billy
11th September 2012, 22:49
FFS Dont tell Billy
Haha! I already knew mate,When I first started back in 71 my first racebike was an R5 Yamaha that was never registered for the road,Only as Ian has stated "E class A" it was farm registration,I don't remember when exactly it was canned,But I know the TZ250B I raced in 78 wasnt registered at all.So must have been early to mid 70s,Probably something to do with the Marlboro series,Could you imagine Gregg Hansford and Murray Sayles factory KR750s being registered as a tractor
,Or the first TZ700 in the world to be raced LMFAO!!!
Want me to see about reinstating the rule for you ??????
Grumph
12th September 2012, 06:47
Haha! I already knew mate,When I first started back in 71 my first racebike was an R5 Yamaha that was never registered for the road,Only as Ian has stated "E class A" it was farm registration,I don't remember when exactly it was canned,But I know the TZ250B I raced in 78 wasnt registered at all.So must have been early to mid 70s,Probably something to do with the Marlboro series,Could you imagine Gregg Hansford and Murray Sayles factory KR750s being registered as a tractor
,Or the first TZ700 in the world to be raced LMFAO!!!
Want me to see about reinstating the rule for you ??????
Doubt if it had anything to do with the Marlboro series, Billy, all the race cars that came in for the Tasman series up to the 70's had to be regstered too. Brabham and MacLaren's Coopers were road registered. In ChCh for the Lady Wigram, they were driven from town to circuit - very entertaining. I remember in I think 1960, seeing Malcolm Gill driving the Lycoming down Riccarton Rd in pouring rain, fountains coming off the open wheels and a big beach umbrella pulled down over the cockpit with I swear 6 pairs of eyes peering out underneath - he had the team crammed into it.
If this grasping government thought they could make money they'd reinstate it in a heartbeat....luckily the farming lobby is strong enough that it won't happen - at least not in the same form.
malcy25
12th September 2012, 08:18
Haha! I already knew mate,When I first started back in 71 my first racebike was an R5 Yamaha that was never registered for the road,Only as Ian has stated "E class A" it was farm registration,I don't remember when exactly it was canned,But I know the TZ250B I raced in 78 wasnt registered at all.So must have been early to mid 70s,Probably something to do with the Marlboro series,Could you imagine Gregg Hansford and Murray Sayles factory KR750s being registered as a tractor
,Or the first TZ700 in the world to be raced LMFAO!!!
Want me to see about reinstating the rule for you ??????
Got the Original Rego plate at home for the 72 TR3 yamaha in the garage....
Dave-
12th September 2012, 08:58
A club racer down here rode his cbr600rr to the burt (last year? maybe the year before?), pulled the plate off, competed, rode it home again.
bloody nice guy too.
ellipsis
12th September 2012, 09:25
...it wasn't that long ago that Glen Ornsby rode his Jubilee Bonne' to the Nelson Street Races, cleaned up his classes, put the bits on and rode home to Oxford...Dan Ornsby was King of the Port, same day...
jellywrestler
12th September 2012, 10:18
...it wasn't that long ago that Glen Ornsby rode his Jubilee Bonne' to the Nelson Street Races, cleaned up his classes, put the bits on and rode home to Oxford...Dan Ornsby was King of the Port, same day...
and in times gone by Croz rode his six hour winning bike to the track, raced it, won and rode it back home again back in the days when men were men...
Billy
12th September 2012, 10:24
and in times gone by Croz rode his six hour winning bike to the track, raced it, won and rode it back home again back in the days when men were men...
Yip,The Z1 he did,Not so the H2,Was the fastest by a long shot on the H2 at the first 6 hour,But he kept running out of brake pads.
budda
12th September 2012, 19:11
Haha! So must have been early to mid 70s,Probably something to do with the Marlboro series,Could you imagine Gregg Hansford and Murray Sayles factory KR750s being registered as a tractor
,Or the first TZ700 in the world to be raced LMFAO!!!
?
Never came up at any of the meetings I attended as one of the Marlboro Organisers - bloody Mamola would have been too young to get a licence anyway, wouldnt he ? Seem to remember still needing the rego for one of the Fryatt St pissupOOPS, I mean races
Dunno why, but I think the plates disappeared around the same time as the old "Zone" race numbers ........
budda
15th September 2012, 20:52
Dunno why, but I think the plates disappeared around the same time as the old "Zone" race numbers ........
Just popped in to the Worlds Best Hardware shop today, and checked the plates on the Indian and the coolest of 'em all, the Velo -
it was still on E Rego in the 76-77 year, so that sort of fits the timeframe .........
jellywrestler
17th September 2012, 14:09
i had an idea it may have been into the eighties, here's RH on an X7
Fast Eddie
17th September 2012, 14:25
i had an idea it may have been into the eighties, here's RH on an X7
ha thats awesome.. I had a suzi gt x7.. same bike eh? I never should have sold it.. too young to know, think I got 300 buck for it..
c'est la vie
Grumph
17th September 2012, 19:26
i had an idea it may have been into the eighties, here's RH on an X7
I'd guess either a customer bike "borrowed" for the weekend - or the wife's one...
roogazza
18th September 2012, 09:03
and in times gone by Croz rode his six hour winning bike to the track, raced it, won and rode it back home again back in the days when men were men...
I have a mate(haven't seen him for years) did the same at the first 6 hour at Amaroo on a CB750. Rode to track, took off the ace bars and "Stone" fairing to fit std bars. Rode to second then rode home again. He was way in front and ran out of brakes. The pad change stuffed it for him.
jellywrestler
18th September 2012, 09:17
I'd guess either a customer bike "borrowed" for the weekend - or the wife's one...
not the wifes, hers was three times the size
Jantar
18th September 2012, 09:22
Mid 70s all race bikes had to be registered, but not ROAD registered. However to get a race licence you also had to have a motorcycle licence. If for any reason your lost your licence then you also lost your racing licencevfor the same period.
Grumph
18th September 2012, 17:06
not the wifes, hers was three times the size
Don't think i ever saw her on that down here - all I remember her on in the SI was a 250 proddy bike, which may have been an RD anyway....
Billy
18th September 2012, 17:47
Don't think i ever saw her on that down here - all I remember her on in the SI was a 250 proddy bike, which may have been an RD anyway....
Yip,You'd be right,She raced an RD400e as well for Hutt Yamaha,Look carefully and you'll notice thats a castrol 6 hour ride,Don't remember her riding an XJ750 any other time,Probably teamed up with Peter Fleming for that race.
Daffyd
18th September 2012, 18:40
There was a time when ALL vehicles that raced on public roads, whether closed for the event or not, had to be registered.
pete376403
18th September 2012, 21:14
I have a mate(haven't seen him for years) did the same at the first 6 hour at Amaroo on a CB750. Rode to track, took off the ace bars and "Stone" fairing to fit std bars. Rode to second then rode home again. He was way in front and ran out of brakes. The pad change stuffed it for him.
Craig Brown? "Two Wheels" did a big 'star out of nowhere" feature, described him as the "king of the rimutaka mountain"
(why can i remember the shit that is totally irrelevant?)
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