The RC30 on tardme

[HenryDorsetCase]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-512947620.htm


Hmmmmmmmmmm. If I thought I could own it for $20k, I just about would.

I thought all Japan spec ones were restricted so the claim of "Full power" seems odd.

and the question mark around road registration.

Pluses: rear wheel. And the Ohlins out of my NC30 would fit it which is longer to allow the ride height to be jacked (mine has the same modification: 17 inch rear wheel, longer shock).

I really fucking want one, and while $20k is a lot of coin, it would be do-able with some domestic consequences.

I know some of you are RC30 gurus and owners, what do you think?

Not very keen on responses that are along the lines of "Buy a gixxer for half the price" or "Hondas are gay": I know Hondas are gay, but so am I. In fact I am so gay I am Takei.

[onearmedbandit]

While I can't add anything to the thread, if I had the money I'd own one in a heart beat. Lusted after RC30's since I was a school boy.

[James Deuce]

The tank decal, the French flag on the fairing, the square white mirrors, and the small headlights make me think that this is a Euro-spec bike that has been re-imported to Japan, possibly an ex-IGOL endurance racer put back on the road. The Fairing has been resprayed with the Dzus fasteners in place and that carbon pipe looks like half of the twin pipe setup the last of the RC30's ran.

The RVF decal isn't right.

Something doesn't ring true with it at all.

It's too cheap and the papers aren't right. Ask him if it sounds like a bucket full of nails in a washing machine at idle. If it doesn't then it may need head work. If he hasn't started it up, then you can guess what I think of that.

Ask what the frame number is. Ask for the engine number. If they don't match it's an ex-race bike. Not necessarily a bad thing, but that bike is ringing my alarm bells, especially the paperwork anomaly.

[HenryDorsetCase]

The tank decal, the French flag on the fairing, the square white mirrors, and the small headlights make me think that this is a Euro-spec bike that has been re-imported to Japan, possibly an ex-IGOL endurance racer put back on the road. The Fairing has been resprayed with the Dzus fasteners in place and that carbon pipe looks like half of the twin pipe setup the last of the RC30's ran.

The RVF decal isn't right.

Something doesn't ring true with it at all.

It's too cheap and the papers aren't right. Ask him if it sounds like a bucket full of nails in a washing machine at idle. If it doesn't then it may need head work. If he hasn't started it up, then you can guess what I think of that.

Ask what the frame number is. Ask for the engine number. If they don't match it's an ex-race bike. Not necessarily a bad thing, but that bike is ringing my alarm bells, especially the paperwork anomaly.

Yeah, thats what I was thinking. If its too good to be true....... I will ask. For $20k I would fly up to wangers to hear it running before parting with the coin.

[actungbaby]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-512947620.htm


Hmmmmmmmmmm. If I thought I could own it for $20k, I just about would.

I thought all Japan spec ones were restricted so the claim of "Full power" seems odd.

and the question mark around road registration.

Pluses: rear wheel. And the Ohlins out of my NC30 would fit it which is longer to allow the ride height to be jacked (mine has the same modification: 17 inch rear wheel, longer shock).

I really fucking want one, and while $20k is a lot of coin, it would be do-able with some domestic consequences.

I know some of you are RC30 gurus and owners, what do you think?

Not very keen on responses that are along the lines of "Buy a gixxer for half the price" or "Hondas are gay": I know Hondas are gay, but so am I. In fact I am so gay I am Takei.

yes seen flying fred win two superbike champs on his highly modified one those where the days , didnt we event world superbikes

with austrila shame we cant afford it back to new zealand was special event

gee i think my oxygen tank after seeing that bike mmm i have to buy lotto ticket saturday looks nice doesint oh nasty imagine riding that down the street

I think got high first gear but who cares , looks so sexy and light

[Fast Eddie]

That looks like Steve Brons bike.. looks like its in the right location to be his and he also had the diff stickers on it.

could maybe get some info on it.. not that i know him that well. Cool bike tho! he has a Honda NR too.. wait for that to pop up on trademe if I was you.. and sell the house

Edit: not brons bike.. obviously someone called Geoff haha..

still sweet bike

[HenryDorsetCase]

I could just swap him my house for the NR and an RC30........

its only slightly earthquake damaged

[jellywrestler]

That looks like Steve Brons bike.. you're talking shit it's geoff keown from keown honda in wanganui

[pete376403]

RC45 on Ebay - be quick, 5 hours to go

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda-Other-1994-Honda-RVF750R-RC45-/320968261052?pt=US_motorcycles&hash=item4abb32fdbc#v4-41

(looks like he has an RC30 as well)

[AllanB]

I'd tap one. As long as Mrs B did not catch me .....

20k NZ - I wonder if you could score a USA version for less? - as in fly to the USA, buy the bike - ship it back and have change from NZ$20k.

Just wondering, it is very, very easy for me to spend your $20k bawahahahaha

[blackdog]

RC45 on Ebay - be quick, 5 hours to go

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda-Other-1994-Honda-RVF750R-RC45-/320968261052?pt=US_motorcycles&hash=item4abb32fdbc#v4-41

(looks like he has an RC30 as well)

Oh clean my undies!

Wonder what the factory gift in Slighty's shed would be worth then.

[husaberg]

John Boot he of 1970 TZ750 fame had a brand new never ridden one that was always at Whiting Honda in CHCH for years.
He was i understand a bit of a punter on future classics.

Wonder where is it now?

Last i heard of him he was a property developer with commercial building in CHCH.

I always lusted after one, that and a 955 Corsa.

[sidecar bob]

you're talking shit it's geoff keown from keown honda in wanganui

Faark!! Two RC30's in Wanganui then?? Thats simply un believeable!!
I spent a bit of time at Geoff's shop when Traceys bro was the service manager there, & didnt know he had an RC30 too!! (and I still doubt he ever did)

[Bender]

Slight's bike was no factory gift. They refused to give him one so he bought it from the UK Honda Team (according to his book).

Often wondered if he still has it.

[jellywrestler]

Oh clean my undies!

Wonder what the factory gift in Slighty's shed would be worth then. didn't he only get a 400cc bike?

[Crasherfromwayback]

didn't he only get a 400cc bike?

Yeah I thought he got a factory ZXR400 from big green?

[White trash]

They say they're "looking for" the de-reg papers in Japan.

Hope they find them, otherwise the bike's never able to be registered in NZ.

[HenryDorsetCase]

John Boot he of 1970 TZ750 fame had a brand new never ridden one that was always at Whiting Honda in CHCH for years.
He was i understand a bit of a punter on future classics.

Wonder where is it now?

Last i heard of him he was a property developer with commercial building in CHCH.

I always lusted after one, that and a 955 Corsa.

He's still around. I understand he has sold ALL his bikes.

[actungbaby]

John Boot he of 1970 TZ750 fame had a brand new never ridden one that was always at Whiting Honda in CHCH for years.
He was i understand a bit of a punter on future classics.

Wonder where is it now?

Last i heard of him he was a property developer with commercial building in CHCH.

I always lusted after one, that and a 955 Corsa.

mmm with some father beans i whould lusted over that one then as in that shop alot wonder if that building is still standing

Oh i live 50 iles from wanguni anyone wants i go have look the rc30 for them hehe just saying i promise not to drool over it to much

[HenryDorsetCase]

I had a long think about it, and a talk with SWMBO. Ive decided that I am not quite in the position to buy it. Blahdeblah. etc. Short reason is the appalling year last year (thanks earthquakes) which has only just started to come right.

Using my superannuation money to buy it seems a bit frivolous, essentially.

I still have the green light to buy another bike, just not to spend quite that much money. I'm comfortable with that.

One day, though....

Also, we spectacularly failed to win Powerball yesterday. :( We all know thats my real retirement plan.

[malcy25]

Using my superannuation money to buy it seems a bit frivolous, essentially.



I did that to buy a near new RS125 Honda (and won a NZ GP), then sold it and used the money towards a house depo, so not all bad...But that was a few years ago now....:Punk:




We all know thats my real retirement plan.

That was the reason I got approval to buy my OW01:shit:

OW's and RC's. Truth be told, they are all 20+ years old so, they all have the foibles now. Especially if not used on a (semi) regular basis. Finding a perfect one is very rare and they were all built to be raced, so many were for some reason(!).

Quite often it is now the case of if you want one and you are in the market, picking the best one available. Only the market might only have one available...so you don't always get a lot of choice.

Funnily enough, Honda has stopped making some parts for them.

I do know a guy in the UK who has 23 RC's!! Never been to his house - maybe next time I'm up there I will, as another mate lives not too far away and they know each other.

The Yanks know what they are worth so trying to pick one up there cheap would be hard work, especially as they never had many, only for a year or so. Only about 90-91 when they'd already been production for 2-3 years.

[orangeback]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-511884401.htm
this will soon be in the same collectible field, at a fraction of the price
remember the Gobert Go show Days, Russell, Crafer , that all rode these.

[onearmedbandit]

Very very nice bike. I'd be half tempted on that one myself.

[mossy1200]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-511884401.htm
this will soon be in the same collectible field, at a fraction of the price
remember the Gobert Go show Days, Russell, Crafer , that all rode these.

Idd own one.

[merv]

didn't he only get a 400cc bike?

I was at Sawyers in Adelaide road the night back in the 90's when we celebrated Aaron's WSB races and he was gifted an NC35 if that is what you are talking about. It looked kinda like the RC45 of the day but sure it is only a 400.

If he was given any other bikes I wasn't around when that happened.

[slowpoke]

I think RC30 or OW01 or ZX-RR and think of the race bikes....seeing one of these in lethargic street trim leaves me strangely unmoved. It's like seeing a thoroughbred pulling a carriage for wedding couples, sure it can do it easily but that's not what it's built for.

Given the budget, I'd much rather have a beat up full house race bike, every nick/scratch telling a story...but each to their own.

[malcy25]

I think RC30 or OW01 or ZX-RR and think of the race bikes....seeing one of these in lethargic street trim leaves me strangely unmoved. It's like seeing a thoroughbred pulling a carriage for wedding couples, sure it can do it easily but that's not what it's built for.

Given the budget, I'd much rather have a beat up full house race bike, every nick/scratch telling a story...but each to their own.

Is why I have a couple TZ's (one with 4 cylinders)....:laugh:

[slowpoke]

Is why I have a couple TZ's (one with 4 cylinders)....:laugh:

Good man! Hmmm, I can see an adjustment in my superannuation strategy coming up. I'd pay a lot more attention to my super if it was parked in the shed that's for sure, lol.

[neels]

It's still just another jap bike at the end of the day.

[dangerous]

John Boot had a brand new never ridden one that was always at Whiting Honda in CHCH for years.
He was i understand a bit of a punter on future classics.

Wonder where is it now? well IIRC I remember it up for sale a few years back, wouldnt be suprised if it went over seas, ya never know he might still have it



Something doesn't ring true with it at allwhen I 1st saw tha add I thought the same, still do weither its a true 30 or not its had a hard life and not origional so IMO not worth that money.





It's still just another jap bike at the end of the day.
yes true, but look at the 70's japa's... geting old getting dear, getting colectable and yes are classics, so ya wont be able to say that for much longer.

[ktm84mxc]

There's an Auckland guy with a RC30, RC45 and SP1 lucky bastard, an English tuner by the name of Tony Scott who did most of the work for Honda GB reckons the RC30 was way superior the the RC45 as the RC45 was just a tuned road bike.

[nodrog]

look out pre '89!

[Fast Eddie]

you're talking shit it's geoff keown from keown honda in wanganui

haha yip, I edited my post when I read geoff and the bike shop.

Still.. could be the same bike and Bron just doesn't own it anymore ;)

[malcy25]

It's still just another jap bike at the end of the day.

What, like reliable, fast, good handling, well engineered and oil tight! Oh and it also has that mythical thing called "character" that non japanese bike ridersbestow against their old unreliable shitters to convince themselves they own something worth keeping?

[malcy25]

Good man! Hmmm, I can see an adjustment in my superannuation strategy coming up. I'd pay a lot more attention to my super if it was parked in the shed that's for sure, lol.

Shhh, don't tell anyone. I've seen 300+% return in 15 years on one bike and 200+% return in 10 years on another. Never mind the woodies I've had!!!

[malcy25]

weither its a true 30 or not its had a hard life and not origional so IMO not worth that money.

The thing about RC30's and OW's is that they can't be faked. They are, or are not. There is no grey or ambiguity. So much of the major parts of the bike are specific to the model that you can't tart up siomething else and try and pass it off like say a 916 Biposto as a 955 corsa.

Check the price of average RC's overseas such as in the UK. Average ones are $25k kiwi easily now. People are cottoning on to the fact that OW's are comparitively cheap and just as sexy so the price is shooting up on those too. Plus they built fewer OW's than RC's. The market is so strong that bikes that are previously writeoff's (ie badly dinged frames) are being rebuilt as they are economic to do so....

[ktm84mxc]

So true Malcy had a look on EBay UK a 92 RC30 new 40 thousand pounds, a low mileage one 15-20 thou serious coin indeed.

[dangerous]

So true Malcy had a look on EBay UK a 92 RC30 new 40 thousand pounds, a low mileage one 15-20 thou serious coin indeed.
ahhhhhhhh... I sooner pay 200k and get a NR :rolleyes:

[jellywrestler]

So true Malcy had a look on EBay UK a 92 RC30 new 40 thousand pounds, a low mileage one 15-20 thou serious coin indeed.

there's a sucker born every minute.
just because it says 40K doesn't mean it's worth that as it hasn't sold, if someone put a million quid on it does that mean it's worth a million quid just because it says so on the net?

[ktm84mxc]

Very true Jellyman the asking price is just a starting point be it up or down from there, whats it worth ? it's only worth what the seller wants for it and can get for it. As they went for 25k NZ here that's what it's worth here.

[malcy25]

ahhhhhhhh... I sooner pay 200k and get a NR :rolleyes:

Don't like them myself, but whatever cranks your handle!! By all accounts they are more VFR750 with spam tin pistons than RC30 with spam tim pistons.

[jellywrestler]

Very true Jellyman the asking price is just a starting point be it up or down from there, whats it worth ? it's only worth what the seller wants for it and can get for it. As they went for 25k NZ here that's what it's worth here.
another incorrect statement. Just cause one went for 25K here doesn't mean they all will. If one sold that day for that at an auction two people at least had to bid it to that final price the next day the saleable value may reach only half that.
Take a look at how many bikes actually sell now at the Webbs auctions. They had a couple of well supported auctions that pretty well flooded the high end buyers she'd then it's all gone flat.
As time goes on and there's less motorcyclists in NZ and more and more bikes kept good for their whole life the market gets flooded and prices will go down. True there will be a few exceptions but watch this space.

[ktm84mxc]

The 25k was the retail price when new, wasn't talking about a used 1 the 40k one on Ebay is new 0 miles etc.
have seen plenty of older bikes on Trademe asking stupid money for 30 yr old bikes in average condition, a 79 GS1000en cost 4g new and a used one can go for that now, there's a 82 TS185 owner wants 4g hell they only cost 1800 when new.

[Bender]

Generally speaking most of the 'classic' bikes on trademe are worn out old shitters. Not much 'classic' about the things except for the price. Bloody dreamers.

[Bender]

Link to an RC30 build thread (http://rc30.yolasite.com/project.php), if anyone is interested. This is what happens when anal retentive meets OCD and combines with avid collector. Good stuff.

[sidecar bob]

if someone put a million quid on it does that mean it's worth a million quid just because it says so on the net?

First rule of the internet, if it says so on the internets, it must be true. Get with the programme Spyda.

[imdying]

Link to an RC30 build thread (http://rc30.yolasite.com/project.php), if anyone is interested. This is what happens when anal retentive meets OCD and combines with avid collector. Good stuff.

That's is imdying's post of the fucking month :first: Thanks for that!

[Paul in NZ]

The odd thing about price when it comes to classic bikes is that the average old bike enthusiast sucks in their breath through clenched teeth and you get all the 'tell im e's dreamin' or 'its not fair, them rich bastards are ruining it for the enthusiasts' or 'how are we supposed to get young fellas involved when prices are like this?' comments etc etc

Except when it comes time to sell their own collection, most of which got purchased for peanuts when they were cheap - different story...

Plus timing is essential. A youngster now neither knows or cares much what an OW01 or an RC30 is and certainly won't be paying a fortune for one when they have made their millions..

Good on em I say - ask high, you can always drop your price but you can't raise it.

[HenryDorsetCase]

The odd thing about price when it comes to classic bikes is that the average old bike enthusiast sucks in their breath through clenched teeth and you get all the 'tell im e's dreamin' or 'its not fair, them rich bastards are ruining it for the enthusiasts' or 'how are we supposed to get young fellas involved when prices are like this?' comments etc etc

Except when it comes time to sell their own collection, most of which got purchased for peanuts when they were cheap - different story...

Plus timing is essential. A youngster now neither knows or cares much what an OW01 or an RC30 is and certainly won't be paying a fortune for one when they have made their millions..

Good on em I say - ask high, you can always drop your price but you can't raise it.

Yeppers. Its why brit bikes have plateued in value but jap stuff is rising. We all know the story: we're in our 40's and 50's, we have a bit of tin, we know we've got a limited time on the planet, so we buy what we couldnt afford when we were teenagers, or buy what we had and trashed as teenagers. And that pretty much means Jap stuff from the 70's and 80's.

If I were picking stuff to keep now that was cheap I would be buying 1985 GSXR750's, 1993 Fireblade's, 1998 R1's, the minter and the more stock (including stock cans) the better. I reckon if you tipped in say $25k of play money, you'd double it in real terms in ten years. I have been spectacularly unsuccessful in convincing my better half of the wisdom of this plan however.

It pisses me off that a cB750k2 I sold for $5000 was re-sold for $9k two years later. Why I sold it I have no idea. Why I sold my CB400F after spending a lot of time and money on it, I have no idea. They're the two I should have kept.