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oneofsix
13th September 2012, 09:16
Timaru reporter fails restricted test. (http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/7665398/Reporter-yearns-for-simpler-driver-test)

What I find scary about this is not that these people are teaching their kids to drive, after all the kids always think they drive better than their parents anyhow (in this case possibly true) and forget everything they were taught as soon as they pass, it is that these tosser are out there thinking that they are good drivers. :gob: Being a nation of sheep other drivers soon copy these "good" drivers :facepalm:

comments included;


So it was a series of intersections, stops, starts, turns, traffic lights, indications and helpful feedback from Karen.

No sweat! Not so. I failed to stop at three stop signs, drove too close to the centre line, failed to turn my head during lane changes, didn't check blind spots, drove over the centre line, failed to indicate, and broke the speed limit.

"That's seven fails; you're probably doing what everybody else is doing," Karen says.

I ask her if it is of concern, considering there are thousands of people like me on the road.

"It is of concern; these are the parents who are teaching their kids," she said.

"If you've driven like this all your life and you've never had an accident, how many accidents have you caused?"


Just a friendly reminder of the drivers you are "sharing" the road with. Stay safe, stay alert.

sootie
13th September 2012, 09:44
Send them up to drive around Auckland for a bit. Preferably in a fairly fragile vehicle.
If they don't learn to drive better in a few days, we will ship them back to Timaru in a box!
(I was born in Timaru by the way)

Phantom Limb
13th September 2012, 10:01
Send them up to drive around Auckland for a bit. Preferably in a fairly fragile vehicle.
If they don't learn to drive better in a few days, we will ship them back to Timaru in a box!
(I was born in Timaru by the way)

Sounds like a plan!
Make it one of these:
http://cdn.sella.co.nz/images/thumb/1/h/t/5k51ht-640x500.jpg

I almost bought one when I was 15 and looking for cheap roof equipped transport, felt more vulnerable than being on a bike!

bogan
13th September 2012, 10:03
And thats during a test, one assumes he was on his best behaviour. So unlikely he's that 'good' normally.

carburator
13th September 2012, 10:33
Sounds like a plan!
Make it one of these:

I almost bought one when I was 15 and looking for cheap roof equipped transport, felt more vulnerable than being on a bike!

over the years I think ive crushed one of those, a mini and certainly a mazada 323 with the supermack by simply people
doing stupid things in front of 40 tonne trucks and thinking your going to stop on a dime.

classic was the hauraki plains , a holden slowly crawls up the side of the unit ( by this time three cars coming the other way
have had to use the shoulder and im on the shoulder ) in the distance a Btrain is coming towards us, the guy panic's swerves
in front of the mack, hits the steerer the lug nuts shread the back door of his car he then finds the gas pedal does it again
( the whole rear of the car is shreaded ) and gets in front ) and then to my suprise warp factor 10 dissappears...

reported it to the police, before the days of dash cam now thats a cool toy and some of the stupid stuff that gets recorded..

ducatilover
13th September 2012, 11:05
And thats during a test, one assumes he was on his best behaviour. So unlikely he's that 'good' normally.

Yup, it's a worry.
I managed 100% on my cage test :yes: I even got overtaken in the Corolla through town by some numpty in a non-turbo Silvia :laugh: fucking idiots.

sootie
13th September 2012, 11:48
I have no idea why it is, but nationality has something to do with driver education & behaviour.

When I lived in UK, I came to respect the British for being (on average) the most considerate and sensible drivers around town (London). They would let you in to the traffic when blocking your way was still a game in NZ. (That has changed thank god). They nearly always used speed appropriately. Yet, these same drivers were crazy on the motorways. They just drove far too close and too fast under terrible fog/rain conditions (and they get lots of that!)

France is totally different. I have had vehicles mount up on to the sidewalk and honk at me to get out of the way (as a pedestrian) so that they could get through. (Never a cop around when you want one.)

In California I have been told off for walking across a Supermarket carpark. "Please stick to the footpaths we provide; people get killed doing what you are doing between cars". It actually looked safer than a NZ car park!

On Maui, I once struggeld with a huge American rental car. The locals were so polite about my intersection indiscretions I had trouble believing it. A local told me "Oh we got that sorted years ago. All the rental cars here start with plates numbered: .... We watch out for visitors" It made sense to me!

Maybe we could learn more from this and work out why different ideas & bits of education work differently in different countries.

willytheekid
13th September 2012, 12:59
Scary....:yes:

But Surprised?...sadly :no:

Just shows the skill levels of some drivers out there...and there attitudes!
They can make all these mistakes (as shown in the vid)...laugh about them and drive off knowing they were safe in there tin can
...we CAN'T!, hence we ride safer!

Ride Safe KBers :love:...Cos there panel damage...could be our lives!

Kickaha
13th September 2012, 13:21
Are people really that dumb that they think motorcyclists are any better?

oneofsix
13th September 2012, 13:32
Scary....:yes:

But Surprised?...sadly :no:

Just shows the skill levels of some drivers out there...and there attitudes!
They can make all these mistakes (as shown in the vid)...laugh about them and drive off knowing they were safe in there tin can
...we CAN'T!, hence we ride safer!

Ride Safe KBers :love:...Cos there panel damage...could be our lives!


Are people really that dumb that they think motorcyclists are any better?

Why don't you and willy nip over the Akaroa loop and debate it at the River Side cafe or whatever its call. Take donuts and Rustus might even join you. :laugh:

Kickaha
13th September 2012, 13:33
Take donuts and Rustus might even join you. :laugh:
I bought him one a while back to get in credit :whistle:

Tigadee
13th September 2012, 13:42
I have no idea why it is, but nationality has something to do with driver education & behaviour.

Well, in that case, 'driving slow in the fast lane' knows no nationalities... :facepalm:

Banditbandit
13th September 2012, 16:10
And thats during a test, one assumes he was on his best behaviour. So unlikely he's that 'good' normally.

Yeah - exactly.

We all know cage drivers are fuckwits ... one more piece of evidence to prove that.

Just remember - always give cages room to do something stupid! (Last time I forgot that piece of advice I dumped the bike!)

sootie
13th September 2012, 16:16
Well, in that case, 'driving slow in the fast lane' knows no nationalities... :facepalm:

Driving Fast in the slow lane seems to be more of a French thing than a UK trait.
In NZ I thought you just weaved from lane to lane to find the fastest through route?

oldrider
13th September 2012, 16:57
Why is it that when driving conditions deteriorate fuckwit drivers get even sillier and sillier as the conditions get worse?

This weeks snow conditions Dunedin and South brought out some of the worst drivers I have ever seen! :facepalm:

Road kill
13th September 2012, 20:10
Send them up to drive around Auckland for a bit. Preferably in a fairly fragile vehicle.
If they don't learn to drive better in a few days, we will ship them back to Timaru in a box!
(I was born in Timaru by the way)

Please don't encourage them,we have enough fools to put up with on the AK motorways now thanks.

Something I noticed just lately,,lot's of the cars that do dumb shit in front of my truck have this oval sticker on em'.

Say's something like "Taranaki halfwit",,,I might have the exact wording a bit wrong,but I'm sure staying the fuck away from Taranaki if that's where their coming from.

Berries
13th September 2012, 20:49
Driving Fast in the slow lane seems to be more of a French thing than a UK trait.
In France the fast lane is the slow lane, unless you are coming towards yourself when the slow lane is the lane left of the fast lane on the right.

sootie
13th September 2012, 20:52
In France the fast lane is the slow lane, unless you are coming towards yourself when the slow lane is the lane left of the fast lane on the right.
I could not possibly put it better, but you can guarantee that some of the driving is bonkers! :killingme:

sootie
13th September 2012, 20:58
Please don't encourage them,we have enough fools to put up with on the AK motorways now thanks.

Something I noticed just lately,,lot's of the cars that do dumb shit in front of my truck have this oval sticker on em'.

Say's something like "Taranaki halfwit",,,I might have the exact wording a bit wrong,but I'm sure staying the fuck away from Taranaki if that's where their coming from.
Yes, I was being a bit flippant. A better solution might be a community service sentence requiring them to go out with ambulance crews & help clean up some of the Saturday night messes for a while.

willytheekid
14th September 2012, 07:50
Why don't you and willy nip over the Akaroa loop and debate it at the River Side cafe or whatever its call. Take donuts and Rustus might even join you. :laugh:

:facepalm:

I never said anything about Bike riders being better :confused: (Hell...I suck in a car!:laugh:)
I was making a point in regards to the fact that we don't have the luxury of making so many "mistakes" (As shown the vid)
...cars get panel damage!...we get hurt, crippled or killed!
Hence we "should" be safer than most car drivers :yes: (or ya not gonna enjoy riding for long!)


...are there really bikers out there, and on here, that are so stupid they haven't figured this out yet??

So as I said before...(for a reason)

Ride Safe KBers:love:...cos there panel damage...could be our life!

oneofsix
14th September 2012, 08:02
:facepalm:

I never said anything about Bike riders being better :confused: (Hell...I suck in a car!:laugh:)
I was making a point in regards to the fact that we don't have the luxury of making so many "mistakes" (As shown the vid)
...cars get panel damage!...we get hurt, crippled or killed!
Hence we "should" be safer than most car drivers :yes: (or ya not gonna enjoy riding for long!)


...are there really bikers out there, and on here, that are so stupid they haven't figured this out yet??

So as I said before...(for a reason)

Ride Safe KBers:love:...cos there panel damage...could be our life!

See I took that to be a bit Darwinish, if the biker don't get it right they learn quick smart or are knocked out of the race. If a cager fails we again suffer so learn to watch out for cagers, doesn't seem to apply to pedestrians in Wellington so perhaps it isn't that simple. Yes there a bikers that are idiots, you tube is full of them but they don't stay that way long whereas cagers can go their whole driving lives being drongos.

But really? are you turning down the opportunity for a ride and a coffee? is the company that bad? :laugh:

Road kill
14th September 2012, 18:00
Why is it that when driving conditions deteriorate fuckwit drivers get even sillier and sillier as the conditions get worse?

This weeks snow conditions Dunedin and South brought out some of the worst drivers I have ever seen! :facepalm:

Thing is,,they don't get any worse,they simply stay the same.

Unlike the conditions,,and that's what catches the dumb fucks out.

You see it every time it's been fine for a few days an then it rains,,they turn AK's motorway into the biggist car park in the country.

It can go from 1 hour "Waiuku to the North Shore" too anything up to 2 hours,,or more if one of them manages to kill themselves.

Same road,same people,,but the clowns never alter their driving to suit the conditions.

It's the rains fault man,:blink::facepalm:

awa355
14th September 2012, 18:53
I would've past The test:wings: But then, I've ridden bikes :scooter:

BIG RED PETE
14th September 2012, 20:07
Is it Trendy to call drivers cagers or something ???

we all drive most of the time dont we

Road kill
14th September 2012, 21:13
Is it Trendy to call drivers cagers or something ???

we all drive most of the time dont we

It's just a "kiddie set" thing.

They get over it once they work out it's easier to pick up the groceries in a car.

After they've left home.

oneofsix
14th September 2012, 21:21
Is it Trendy to call drivers cagers or something ???

we all drive most of the time dont we

Quick way to describe all the vehicles that envelope the drivers. Yes most drive them but it is like using bikers instead of motorcyclists.

Berries
14th September 2012, 22:59
Is it Trendy to call drivers cagers or something ???
To some. Generally the term used is "fucking cagers" or the like.


we all drive most of the time dont we
Speak for yourself.




Fucking cager.

DMNTD
15th September 2012, 06:42
We all know cage drivers are fuckwits ... one more piece of evidence to prove that.

Just remember - always give cages room to do something stupid! (Last time I forgot that piece of advice I dumped the bike!)

Plenty of people that drive cars/vans/etc are bloody hopeless, agreed.
However everyday during my commute I see a far higher percentage of numptiness from organ donors.
Weaving like mad buggers, assuming that others have seen them, riding without lights on whilst lane splitting.
Some are doing themselves no favours

SNF
3rd December 2012, 09:18
I Haven't seen many bikers doing stupid things. Seen the odd idiot lane splitting at stupid speeds. Had someone try pass me on the left while I was stuck in peak hour traffic, not enough room so they had to wait behind me, traffic was merging (fuck this once I get my L's!!!!) As for drivers - I wonder how some people get their licenses. Half of them can't even maintain basic throttle control on 4 wheels. 100 km/h on the motorway you'd think they could do this, but no. 90..........95.......... randomly go up to over 100. Nope wait let's have a wank...... hard tug, ah there........suddenly drop down to 85 km/h. WHAT THE FUCK FOR! There's usually nothing in front of them as you pass them. I wonder what it was. A pebble? A corner? I have seen some go from 90 to 70 just for a curve. Look in the mirror and they are on your ass. And then eventually they go away, and then come back......Its usually some pile of shit with faggotmatic transmission - easy as to drive so why the fast and slow shit?

Last night was a typical night driving, me and a friend going to get another friend from his work. First a crappy brown mid 90's corona driving past Lincoln rd exit on the motorway. 110. 90. 100. Fast. Slow. Fast. Weaving all over his lane, nearly hits the barrier twice, nearly hits my mates car. Did go a little quick to get as far away from wank-a-lot as quickly as possible so we didn't get sideswiped/pushed off the road/into a ditch/pole.......

Stuck my head out the the window and roared at them, my mate was on the horn. Same thing in Mt Roskill when someone didn't indicate and completely cut off the car and proceeded to go 35 km/h. Funny they indicated after I yelled. I'm not angry, but they have to know for fuck's sake someone will die if they keep this shit up. Again with the idiot who has to stop in the middle of the road because the didn't give way, duuhhhh, the triangle sign on that side street which you turned out onto Dominion road says Give Way.

Driving tests should be made MUCH harder. If they can't even do the basics of throttle control and steering, let alone giving way, indicating, head checks........ what the hell are they even doing on the road. Speed may be a factor, in crashes but it's not all. Its the stupidity of retards swerving and wanking, the not looking/giving way. Excuse the rant had to get it off my chest. I hope someone will see this and actually do something about it.

Wonder how they would do on bike with the throttle control? Oh and tape the cornering:shit::yes:

Katman
3rd December 2012, 10:02
I Haven't seen many bikers doing stupid things.

Stick around.

Madness
3rd December 2012, 20:49
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:facepalm:

Banditbandit
4th December 2012, 10:21
B1 and B2 in crash video

Bwhahahaha ... typical cage crash ..