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froggyfrenchman
6th August 2005, 23:04
anybody else ever had this prob?

I have noticed over the years that a large percentage ofthe general population instantly have to lecture me on road safety and the danger ofbikes when they realise i ride. Well thats the 1s that dnt asume im a dirty smelly stereotype biker ready to kill them all unexpectively!

The point im tryin to make is, in Hawkes bay, its been over 2 years since anyone died on a bike, and it seems theres a fatal car crash every week.

WHY ARE BIKERS SEEN AS SCUM OF THE ROAD???????? :weird:

Ixion
6th August 2005, 23:06
Meh. I like being scum. Tis an upwardly mobile step for me. I used to be dregs.

Them as lecture me on how dangerous it is, I just agree and tell them I've dies three times already

froggyfrenchman
6th August 2005, 23:13
im the same. but couldnt they give me a chance to prove it 1st?

zadok
6th August 2005, 23:55
Get called a temporary Australian sometimes. I'm not even Australian! That's what some people think of bike riders.

Dadpole
7th August 2005, 00:13
Fek 'em all. The part I enjoy is taking off my helmet and they find I am older and greyer than them.

NC
7th August 2005, 07:40
I have a large collection of tattoos and a matt black shitty NC30.. I win, I'm biker scum? Hell NO! I ride a bloody japper, it's those harley riding CLOWNS that are biker scum. Well that's what I always heard :msn-wink:

Dafe
7th August 2005, 07:52
Probably just Jealous cage drivers who envy our freedom.
Most unfortunate that Harley riders do tend to give motorcyclists a bad image especially when roaring through quiet areas scaring the crap out of the oldies. There are alot of elderly folk who are horrified by the extreme noise when it passes by. I know I've jumped a few times myself.
Also, the odd Japper will often add to the equation with speed antics.
Not so much wheelie hoons in Wellington as WhiteTrash has sadly now moved north.
Personally, I don't think motorcyclists have a bad name, not in Wellington. Motorcyclists are probably looked upon as reasonably well respected road users here. I find cage drivers in Wellington are quite courteous to bikers.

TonyB
7th August 2005, 07:56
I've been called a temporary NZer many times. Whatever.

As for the scum of the road thing- the is an element of biker culture that works hard to look that way . We all get the rewards for their efforts.

I was at a hardware store once with my jacket on and carrying my helmet. For some reason my eftpos card refused to work on their machine- it wouldn't recognise my pin. The girl said "oh it's the machine- we're getting it replaced". A woman behind me in the que said just a little bit too loudly to her freind "He probably stole it". Made me feel real good that did- never stolen so much as a boiled lolly.

It does have it's advantages though- I used to be able to walk down the busiest street in Chch with my jacket and helmet and people would just get out of the way- bloody funny when you look at the size of me. It didn't work in Nelson though, the difference was quite noticeable.

SixPackBack
7th August 2005, 08:32
Things are changing folk's......read the post on the secret life of sixpackback.
Yesterday i was asked to wheel my bike into a 70th birthday function while old dear had her photo taken on it.....gave the old girl a cuddle and a peck on the cheek.....she had tears in her eyes when we left, it really made her day.
Lot more bikes on the road these days, and in my experience not many plonker pilots.......the public will see that, some of them need a little time to catch up!

Bonez
7th August 2005, 08:44
Things are changing folk's......read the post on the secret life of sixpackback.
Yesterday i was asked to wheel my bike into a 70th birthday function while old dear had her photo taken on it.....gave the old girl a cuddle and a peck on the cheek.....she had tears in her eyes when we left, it really made her day.
Lot more bikes on the road these days, and in my experience not many plonker pilots.......the public will see that, some of them need a little time to catch up!Fuck and here I was trying to live up to the "scum of the earth image" Like most other riders I don't give a toss what dedicateted cagers think :drinkup:

inlinefour
7th August 2005, 09:15
If I had a dollar for everytime some dumbarse nurse told me off and gave their opinion on why I should not ride, I'd have a new friggin bike! :weird:
i now ask if they enjoy life and really feel like they are alive, most say no or not really :no: I then state that i like to do something that scares me every week if I can :devil2: it helps me fully enjoy life and feel alive, plus I'm addicted to adreniline I suspect, as I also get off on doing stupid things on my mountian bike :Punk: If they still carry on, I suggest that they go see a Psychologist, I.E. someone who cares :whocares:

Motu
7th August 2005, 09:17
I've never had that lecture - not even from me Mum.I've certainly been looked at in scorn in my younger days - I have no tats or jewlery,but my leather jacket had studs and I worn a filthy cutoff DJ over it,the bikes fitted the stereotype and were noisy.

These days my bikes look cute,I wear a white helmet with designer bikewear - still no one talks to me,but I get the impression it's more - ''wow,he rides a bike,I wonder where he's been,wonder where he's going?''

Dafe
7th August 2005, 09:26
Is it just me or has the kiwibiker members all woken up on the wrong side of the bed this morning? :whistle: Too much :drinkup: last night then? Abit more :puke: this morning should get ya :ride:

(Turn away if you don't wanna know the Rugby result!!!)

Or is it the lousy attitudes after a well deserved loss to the Boks?

texmo
7th August 2005, 10:04
My mums friend is a paramedic his nick name for me is "doner"

Beemer
7th August 2005, 10:17
My mums friend is a paramedic his nick name for me is "doner"

Doner? As in kebab? Or donor - as in donator of body parts? :rofl:

I get told all the time that motorcycling is dangerous, but I think rugby is more likely to injure people than riding. People say to my husband "you don't look like a biker, where are your tattoos?" He usually replies that I have enough tattoos for both of us!

My mother was telling someone that I rode a bike and the person said "oh, does she have a Harley?" My darling mother replied "get real, she rides a REAL bike, not a piece of crap!"

I don't worry about being thought of as scum - I'm a journalist and we usually rate below used car salesmen on the list of respected professions so I suppose a biker journo must be the lowest of the low! :whocares:

pritch
7th August 2005, 11:27
Or donor - as in donator of body parts?

I was ignoring that "donor" thing until a recent interview I saw on TV.

There was a patient awaiting an urgent transplant and the Surgeon who was to perform the operation was lamenting the lack of an immediately available organ.

She then looked out the window and announced cheerfully,
"Oh good it's raining, it won't be long now."

Be careful out there.

FROSTY
7th August 2005, 11:38
I don't worry about being thought of as scum - I'm a journalist and we usually rate below used car salesmen on the list of respected professions so I suppose a biker journo must be the lowest of the low! :whocares:
EXQUEEEZE me --nowadays most of us car sales people are proud of what we do.
fuggit so now im a biker scum car salesman that wrights stuff --aww shit wheres the hari kari knife

myvice
7th August 2005, 13:10
WHAT? I thought we where all up standing pillars of the community?
We don’t cause as much pollution, take up less parking and are even kind enough to share our lanes with cars on congested motorways as to keep the que shorter!
Now you tell me we’re all scum?!
My MP is going to get such a nasty letter!

HDTboy
7th August 2005, 13:43
If I had a dollar for everytime some dumbarse nurse told me off and gave their opinion on why I should not ride, I'd have a new friggin bike! :weird:
That's it. Now every time someone starts giving me the lecture, I'll ask them for a dollar, if they give me it I'll listen and nod politely, then put the dollar in the new bike jar

Rincewind
7th August 2005, 13:45
anybody else ever had this prob?

I have noticed over the years that a large percentage ofthe general population instantly have to lecture me on road safety and the danger ofbikes when they realise i ride. Well thats the 1s that dnt asume im a dirty smelly stereotype biker ready to kill them all unexpectively!

The point im tryin to make is, in Hawkes bay, its been over 2 years since anyone died on a bike, and it seems theres a fatal car crash every week.

WHY ARE BIKERS SEEN AS SCUM OF THE ROAD???????? :weird:

I have been sayin for years that everyone should learn how to ride a motorcycle and pass a test before being allowed to progress to four wheels,it would give them a lot more respect for the skill level involved in achieving a two wheel licence and who knows a lot of people would maybe stick to two wheels thus solving some of the traffic probs being suffered world wide...
In general it would improve the image that we have, although I must admit I very rarely hear anything derogatory levelled at me personally when I'm dressed in Black leather standing six foot tall and weighing in at 15 stone( I guess they wait till I'm outa earshot) (suits me fine) :mad: :whocares:

inlinefour
7th August 2005, 13:46
That's it. Now every time someone starts giving me the lecture, I'll ask them for a dollar, if they give me it I'll listen and nod politely, then put the dollar in the new bike jar

I'm more likely to be offered an antipsychotic medication here at work :yes:

Waylander
7th August 2005, 13:59
I've been called a temporary NZer many times. Whatever.

As for the scum of the road thing- the is an element of biker culture that works hard to look that way . We all get the rewards for their efforts.

I was at a hardware store once with my jacket on and carrying my helmet. For some reason my eftpos card refused to work on their machine- it wouldn't recognise my pin. The girl said "oh it's the machine- we're getting it replaced". A woman behind me in the que said just a little bit too loudly to her freind "He probably stole it". Made me feel real good that did- never stolen so much as a boiled lolly.

It does have it's advantages though- I used to be able to walk down the busiest street in Chch with my jacket and helmet and people would just get out of the way- bloody funny when you look at the size of me. It didn't work in Nelson though, the difference was quite noticeable.
Had something similar happen to me once. I just turned to the lady and said,"Best keep an eye on your purse then," and winked at her. I find it better to have that image cause peaple leave me alone for the most part.

XTC
7th August 2005, 14:07
Where the hell did the word stereotype come from anyway - and what did they use before stereo's were invented?? Radiogramtype? LaGloriatype? monotype? :wait:

Storm
7th August 2005, 15:21
Thats so deep man

froggyfrenchman
7th August 2005, 15:43
better start me 1 of them new bike jars..... great idea guys! I used to work in radiology in a hospital, i always got horror stories from the staff bout bike crash injuries, my reply was always... well he couldnt ride for shit then could he...

Lou Girardin
7th August 2005, 15:50
No-one lectures me now, I'm too old. If they tried, a polite "fuck off" would suffice.

onearmedbandit
7th August 2005, 16:02
Who gives, anyone who stereotypes isn't worth listening to. And that includes me, so don't listen to me. There are only a handful of people in this world whose opinion matters to me, those who know me. Those that don't know me are best advised not to judge or stereotype me.

ZorsT
7th August 2005, 16:17
I've been called an iodit, a donor, temporary NZer, fool. All that. I always get it at work when the boss goes home (the boss actually supports me.)
With all the bike gear on, I find most people do pre jugde me, and about half of the people on the street get out of my way as I walk - someone yesterday opened a door that he wasn't even going through...
Little children are funny. They always either try and hide behind dad, or stop to look. When their parents see me watching them, they usually grab the kid and walk (or run) off really fast... I like motorbikes :)

Odin
7th August 2005, 16:25
I have been sayin for years that everyone should learn how to ride a motorcycle and pass a test before being allowed to progress to four wheels,...

Cumpolsery MC riding, good idea. As you say less trafic problems but people would also learn traffic better. In Denmark the cage/MC license age is 18 and until then most people ride bicycles or 50cc scooters/mopeds. That makes them feel vulnerable and they learn to look out for traffic and then carrie that knowledge to driving in cages.

scumdog
7th August 2005, 16:49
Meh. I like being scum. Tis an upwardly mobile step for me. I used to be dregs.

Them as lecture me on how dangerous it is, I just agree and tell them I've dies three times already

Likewise, if I wasn't scum I'd have to change my name!! (Hmm, dregdog? - doesn't have the same ring!)

SOMEBODY has to make the effort to be scum, otherwise Joe Society wouldn't know how well he was off - socially wise. :motu:

scumdog
7th August 2005, 16:51
My mother was telling someone that I rode a bike and the person said "oh, does she have a Harley?" My darling mother replied "get real, she rides a REAL bike, not a piece of crap!"

I don't worry about being thought of as scum - I'm a journalist and we usually rate below used car salesmen on the list of respected professions so I suppose a biker journo must be the lowest of the low! :whocares:

Ooooh! that first comment cut to the quick -or it should but being a H-D rider I'm too thick to know that it should.

And does your second comment mean that my job ranks higher than a biker journo? :rofl: :whistle:

scumdog
7th August 2005, 16:54
Where the hell did the word stereotype come from anyway - and what did they use before stereo's were invented?? Radiogramtype? LaGloriatype? monotype? :wait:


Nah, they were Murphy-Richardograms! hyuk-hyuk :motu:

Waylander
7th August 2005, 16:59
Who gives, anyone who stereotypes isn't worth listening to. And that includes me, so don't listen to me. There are only a handful of people in this world whose opinion matters to me, those who know me. Those that don't know me are best advised not to judge or stereotype me.
When in doubt refer to the last line in InLineFour's sig?

inlinefour
7th August 2005, 17:10
When in doubt refer to the last line in InLineFour's sig?

and I've learnt over the years also very true...

onearmedbandit
7th August 2005, 17:18
Too true...

GN1NiteStnd
8th August 2005, 09:48
Yeah I used to work at a supermarket and some of the customers used to give me this worried look and pull their small children aside when I walked past. It neva really worried me, in fact it made me laugh. I mean Im a 160cm tall female, without the gear no one had ever been intimidated by me before. :rofl:
Its like they couldnt look past the stereotype.

Wolf
8th August 2005, 09:55
I just agree and tell them I've dies three times already
But he got better and the scars are all gone, too...

SARGE
8th August 2005, 10:02
Yeah I used to work at a supermarket and some of the customers used to give me this worried look and pull their small children aside when I walked past. It neva really worried me, in fact it made me laugh. I mean Im a 160cm tall female, without the gear no one had ever been intimidated by me before. :rofl:
Its like they couldnt look past the stereotype.


im just the opposite .. im a 6 foot, 110 kg one eyed, tatooed, bearded malcontent..but i am always friendly ( not in traffic though) and smile 99% of the time.. people still tend to pull the kids aside for some reason... :rofl:

Beemer
8th August 2005, 10:15
And does your second comment mean that my job ranks higher than a biker journo? :rofl: :whistle:

If you are a used car salesman, yep! I think journalists are usually almost at the bottom of the list of respected professions, which really annoys me because it's not like we have tabloid horrors in NZ like they do overseas. Most news here is pretty straight, not sensationalised.

The funny thing is, in a previous life I was a nurse - so I've been highly respected and now how the mighty have fallen! (Much more fun being a journo though, got free tickets to see Crusty Demons for a start, beats a box of chocolates any day!)

idb
8th August 2005, 10:31
Who gives, anyone who stereotypes isn't worth listening to.
That's one hell of a stereotype OAB.
There might be a lot of stereotypers that are very interesting and worthy of an audience.

In fact I reckon that all stereotypers are .....oops

Wolf
8th August 2005, 10:34
I think rugby is more likely to injure people than riding.
Back in my "can't stay on the fucking bike" days I used to sit in the waiting room at A&E while later arrivals off the rugby field were taken straight through - and fair enough, too... I at least limped in there under my own steam while these guys were being carried in by two of their mates and they looked like a collision between a truck and an abattoir.

All I can say is, I'm glad I only hit the road - it seems, on observation, to be a safer option than playing rugby...




A journalist, oh my! tsk tsk :devil2:

bkrwench
8th August 2005, 10:53
Not only do i put up with being called sir and stereotyped as a biker, with all that implies ie:hoon, lout etc etc

i also cop the oh my your a chick!!!

are you mad?

i reckon they are just envious of our freedom

the others are just arseholes & who cares