View Full Version : Can you name this plane?
Quasievil
1st October 2012, 20:54
I went to the Ardmore airshow on Saturday, I missed the name of this plane and I cant find out the name of it after a hour googling . Anyone know ?
cheers for the help
mossy1200
1st October 2012, 21:01
Grumman F4F Wildcat
or
Grumman F6F Hellcat
I cant see how far back the cockpit goes in your pix
Quasievil
1st October 2012, 21:02
Grumman F4F Wildcat
or
Grumman F6F Hellcat
I cant see how far back the cockpit goes in your pix
Neither I think the cockpit is to far forward for those I think
nadroj
1st October 2012, 21:06
North American
Trojan....T28
onearmedbandit
1st October 2012, 21:07
Here's a better pic of it.
https://plus.google.com/photos/110131124572488371119/albums/5793468457686713281/5793468503068589922?authkey=COTYpsCnwYThXA
Quasievil
1st October 2012, 21:09
Trojan....
Awesome thanks dude !!
they said it had a faster climb rate than the P51, so an impressive machine !
nadroj
1st October 2012, 21:12
Awesome thanks dude !!
they said it had a faster climb rate than the P51, so an impressive machine !
Mainly Carrier bourne.
mashman
1st October 2012, 21:23
I name it, Janet.
huff3r
1st October 2012, 21:25
ZK - JGS? (140563 - Tail Number)
FJRider
1st October 2012, 21:29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:T-28B_VT-2_over_NAS_Whiting_Field_c1973.jpeg
Oakie
1st October 2012, 21:45
I name it, Janet.
I was going to suggest 'Steve'.
sinfull
2nd October 2012, 05:46
I was going to suggest 'Steve'.
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nadroj
2nd October 2012, 06:10
ZK JGS North American T-28 Trojan 1956 140563 c/n 226-140
BoristheBiter
2nd October 2012, 06:51
It's good to see the Air force has purchased some new planes.:laugh:
Delerium
2nd October 2012, 11:34
It's good to see the Air force has purchased some new planes.:laugh:
yep, nobody in the air force will have heard that joke before.
BoristheBiter
2nd October 2012, 12:24
yep, nobody in the air force will have heard that joke before.
Yep humor is all they have left.
HenryDorsetCase
2nd October 2012, 12:33
We went to see the C-47 Globemaster (holy shit: big!) at the weekend and also toured the P-3 Orion. Very worthwhile. Didnt get a chance to go look at the 757 they have but it was walkon walk off so didnt bother.
The P3 is the last one to go to Woodbourne to be refitted. Started flying in 1966, and has another 20 years left in it!!
all of the Airforce personnel (Mrkn and New Zealand) were friendly, helpful and professional. Made an old man quite proud. And since I am 11 I elbowed a bunch of kids out the way so I could sit in the pilot seat....
Pussy
2nd October 2012, 16:57
Awesome thanks dude !!
they said it had a faster climb rate than the P51, so an impressive machine !
...to 10000 feet. The P-51 will piss all over a T-28C at higher altitudes. The T-28C is still an AWESOME aeroplane, though. It sounds unusual due to the fact there are five exhaust stubs out one side and four on the other. The late John Greenstreet brought this machine in to NZ.
SPman
3rd October 2012, 12:40
..The late John Greenstreet brought this machine in to NZ.
And never got a chance to fly it.........
Tigadee
3rd October 2012, 13:54
Reminds me of the A-1H Skyraider, the A-10 Warthog of the Vietnam era. That puppy could carry a shitload of ordinance, superseded only by the Warthog because of that BMFG it carries, more advanced avionics/weapons delivery, and Maverick (and Hellfire?) missiles...
http://warandgame.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/skyraider.jpg
James Deuce
3rd October 2012, 14:30
We went to see the C-47 Globemaster (holy shit: big!)
You mean C-17 Globemaster III :)
First time I saw a C-17 was Farnborough in '98. It had an all female crew, landed in less space than a Spitfire Mk IX uses to take off, and then backed into its parking space. It looked like a block of flats flying overhead. What was REALLY impressive was the performance envelope of the C130J at the same show. Mein Gott they chucked that thing around.
C47 is a military DC-3 of the WWII era.
The first Globemaster was the C74, a scaled up low-wing DC-4 developed from a WWII requirement, which was in turn developed into the C124 Globemaster II and that variant worked through the Vietnam era right up to 1970 (when the C5A Galaxy replaced it), picking up turbo-props along the way. It was referred to as "Old Shakey" by passengers and crew alike.
The T-28 was a trainer, developed to replace the T6 Texan (we know the T6 as the Harvard) and was used for COIN mission in Vietnam and it is basically an armed trainer. It's last flight as a trainer would have been in in the mid '80s. There was a variant with a turbo-prop engine.
Mustangs in Escort config were pretty nasty to fly with poor weight distribution and a lack of directional stability due to the fuel tanks added to the airframe which moved the CofG aft (this is why the -D model got a dorsal fillet in front of the vertical stabiliser to help control the poor full fuel yaw characteristics). With wing tanks and full fuselage and wing tanks it would have been considerably heavier than a T-28 and probably with a lower power to weight ratio, hence the completely outrageous climb rate claims. :) Dago Red would spank any T-28.
MisterD
3rd October 2012, 15:59
What was REALLY impressive was the performance envelope of the C130J at the same show.
I was fortunate enough to have a "ride" in a C130 simulator in a previous life...felt like flying a house whilst sat on the verandah with all that glass.
pzkpfw
3rd October 2012, 17:25
Reminds me of the A-1H Skyraider, the A-10 Warthog of the Vietnam era. That puppy could carry a shitload of ordinance, ...
Long loiter times were a big thing too. Hang around the area, ready to give help to the troops when needed.
The A1 and A10 are two of the nicest lookin' planes, to me. Don't know why some call them ugly. They have purpose.
(Perhaps why I also prefer a bike where you can see the engine, over a fully-faired bike.)
nudemetalz
4th October 2012, 11:16
Long loiter times were a big thing too. Hang around the area, ready to give help to the troops when needed.
The A1 and A10 are two of the nicest lookin' planes, to me. Don't know why some call them ugly. They have purpose.
(Perhaps why I also prefer a bike where you can see the engine, over a fully-faired bike.)
'nuff said :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v677/turbo_NZ/122925267_Zzj1lLkm_20100320Airshow441.jpg
Everything about aircraft James Deuce says is correct and very informative.
The T-28's were also at one stage used at the Reno Air Races and had their own class.
http://www.t28trojanfoundation.com/index.html
When built as a trainer they were: -
The A model was the US Air Force
The B model was a US Navy
The C model was a US Navy carrier-borne trainer
The D model was an attack variant for the US Air Force.
That Kiwi one is a "C" model.
Bass
4th October 2012, 12:04
You mean C-17 Globemaster III :)
First time I saw a C-17 was Farnborough in '98. It had an all female crew.
Didn't have a cockpit - had a box office instead
Heard that the T28 was developed with progression to the F86 Sabre in mind and that their handling characteristics were very similar. The dates don't seem to add up though. Maybe it was the F100.
The maintenance people tell me that the T28 is quite a complicated aeroplane for a single engined trainer.
cave weta
4th October 2012, 15:43
Havin a cuppa tea on the deck on Sunday and saw a Vampire and a skyhawk cruising home from Ardmore- lovely sight!
Balu
4th October 2012, 15:53
A couple more links to photos of the T-28C
http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/ZK-GJS.html
http://jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?regsearch=ZK-JGS
Madness
4th October 2012, 17:55
Off topic I know but does anyone know what the flip-front transporter that was parked at Ohakea on Monday is? I only saw it briefly over my shoulder but damn it was enormous!
huff3r
4th October 2012, 17:57
Off topic I know but does anyone know what the flip-front transporter that was parked at Ohakea on Monday is? I only saw it briefly over my shoulder but damn it was enormous!
Antonov AN124. Dropping off 2 new NH90s
FJRider
4th October 2012, 18:11
Antonov AN124. Dropping off 2 new NH90s
One of these ones you mean .... :laugh:
http://www.airforce.mil.nz/operations/airforce-news/133/first-nh90-helicopters-arrive.htm
huff3r
4th October 2012, 18:20
One of these ones you mean .... :laugh:
http://www.airforce.mil.nz/operations/airforce-news/133/first-nh90-helicopters-arrive.htm
Yup, dropped off numbers 3 and 4. :mellow:
The AN225s little brother.
FJRider
4th October 2012, 18:44
Yup, dropped off numbers 3 and 4. :mellow:
The AN225s little brother.
I watched a Galaxy land at Singapore once ... THEY are big fuckers ...
huff3r
4th October 2012, 18:52
I watched a Galaxy land at Singapore once ... THEY are big fuckers ...
AN124 is only slightly shorter, but also slightly wider and taller, and carries more payload. :yes:
They are both very AWESOME machines. I would be keen as to fly the 124. (I'm no american airforce flyboy so its a no go for the galaxy!)
nadroj
5th October 2012, 06:21
Havin a cuppa tea on the deck on Sunday and saw a Vampire and a skyhawk cruising home from Ardmore- lovely sight!
I think you will find it was Peter Vause's L39 Albatross with Brettt Emeny's Vampire returning to New Plymouth.
cave weta
5th October 2012, 07:17
I think you will find it was Peter Vause's L39 Albatross with Brettt Emeny's Vampire returning to New Plymouth.
Aah!- Its been so long since I saw a Skyhawk:bye:
I did see them in profile and could not see the wing shape clearly. Ive never heard of an Albatross- well only the albatross. that comes with wafers.....
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