Advice wanted on Ford/Holden utes

[Gremlin]

Yeah yeah, it's got 4 wheels. Figure I really should get a shifty on with upgrading my 1L to something more useful (except I barely ever drive - hence no progression on licence).

If I have to have 4 wheels then it's going to be useful and that means being able to transport bikes should the need arise (not every day kinda thing). Vans handle horribly empty (witnessed a van get blown sideways on the bridge on the weekend to boot) and have a roof, which restricts height and the GSA is a damn big bike. I don't do track days etc, so a ute suits and would prefer car like handling with uh... 0 experience driving. Local mechanic that sorts the family cars says Holden rather than Ford and he's servicing...

Figure a 3.8L V6 auto suits me (why put gas in a V8 when it could go in the bike and the V6 is an ecotec) and want to stay under $10k (lower the better, but figure if I buy cheap I'd want to upgrade in due course, rather than buying a bit better and keeping it for years). Stuff like cruise control would be nice to have... cars can't seem to stick to one speed when I drive... I'm sure it's got nothing to do with lack of experience... :confused: Seems that 200,000km would be about it? Utes seem to hold their value tho :blink:

I fancy the VU (gold one in gissy is asking $8500) as I always liked the tear drop lights, but also the first to have independent rear suspension, longer tray and more cabin room than the outgoing VS. Being 6'3 space is good... Don't want to mess with column shift and most VS were bench seats.

So anything I should be avoiding like the plague or going after? I imagine a few of you have had them...

[Scuba_Steve]

So anything I should be avoiding like the plague

umm Holden's in general

Whats wrong with good old Toymotas & Nissan's??? cheaper to run (save you money), reliable (save you money), don't come with a white trash premium (save you money), won't be falling apart as you drive down the street (save you money)... Tho I suppose if you're not a good driver Holden is the brand for you. "people who drive Holden, can't" - car enthusiasts

[Gremlin]

A lot of the standard shape utes are diesel and/or manual. I'm not getting diesel, and since I'm lazy, I've decided auto is fine as well. On my restricted I'd be restricted to autos, but on full could drive anything. Pros and cons of manual vs auto, but auto just makes the learning easier. I'll add gears when I want. You can cheat on motorbikes with your feet down... I don't think I could hold a car on a slight hill like that ;)

Yes, I do have a soft spot for the shape of the sport utes, or whatever they're called... They handle more like cars as well...

Oh, not going double cab either. Makes the tray too short.

[pzkpfw]

My first car (a '73 ST70 Toyota Corona) was column change. Never had a problem with it.

If you are getting a two-door ute, you may find the bench seat useful the day you see the two (insert preference) hitchhikers.

My 2 cents.

[ducatilover]

Nothing really bad about them at all. Being an Ecotec it'll shit the starter motor, you can rebuild them with better bits inside.
They're nicer to drive than the AU Coon and better put together than the BA Coon (don't tow as well though, IMO)
Only other issue is they can be heavy on gas around town, but I doubt it's an issue as it's not getting used much :yes:


Oh, get one with cruise control too, it rules.

The Dunnydore ute is super comfy also

[Edbear]

The Ecotec V6, especially if you can get the 3lt rather than the 3.6 is surprisingly economical on the open road, but still won't match the Jappas around town. The Holden will be more comfortable, more like driving and armchair compared to the Jappas as well.

They are good value at the moment as six cyl. vehicles are not very PC these days and a few bargains can be had. I agree about the bench seat if you can find one as you will often need to carry a couple of passengers.

[Gremlin]

My first car (a '73 ST70 Toyota Corona) was column change. Never had a problem with it.

If you are getting a two-door ute, you may find the bench seat useful the day you see the two (insert preference) hitchhikers.
I figure I can see the transmission layout easier on the floor. Even using a tiptronic auto the first time I misread how it operated :facepalm: For hitchhikers, that's what the tray is for. Cutest gets the passenger seat, unless they're both cute then they might fit on one seat :D


Nothing really bad about them at all. Being an Ecotec it'll shit the starter motor, you can rebuild them with better bits inside.
How charming... Guess I'll be speaking to you as yeah, make it stronger then it don't break again. A V8 would use even more fuel and being a V8 or S or SS makes them more and more desirable (read expensive). I've had my thrill from bikes so don't need a hoon ute... That said, there are some very tasty sounding V8s on Youtube...

[Gremlin]

The Ecotec V6, especially if you can get the 3lt rather than the 3.6 is surprisingly economical on the open road, but still won't match the Jappas around town. The Holden will be more comfortable, more like driving and armchair compared to the Jappas as well.
The 3.6L is Alloytec, newer than the Ecotec which is a 3.8L. At least from the google learning I've done. Seems to be limited information and reviews, but reflects it's more of a vehicle for Oz and NZ. Never come across a 3L, wasn't aware it came out in one?

[Edbear]

The 3.6L is Alloytec, newer than the Ecotec which is a 3.8L. At least from the google learning I've done. Seems to be limited information and reviews, but reflects it's more of a vehicle for Oz and NZ. Never come across a 3L, wasn't aware it came out in one?

Absolutely right, I can't brain today, I have the dumb... :bye:

The newer Alloytec was available in either 3lt or 3.6lt, but the 3lt may not have been in the NZ spec utes.

Only issue I have heard with the 3.8 is the crank sensor sometimes quitting. Not a biggie, but a nuisance if you're halfway over the harbour bridge.

[SMOKEU]

Make sure you post up some skid videos on Youtube when you're done as those things peel up mean especially with an empty tray. Lock the diff on it and you've got a very nice skid vehicle.

[Kickaha]

Makes the tray too short.
On a single cab Hilux I could fit a bike in and close the tailgate on a Commodore I couldn't, I can't remember what year each of them was but you might want to have a measure up

[onearmedbandit]

Just sold an 01 VU 3.8 ute in red done 115 with nice alloys and 'roll-bar' for $15k today. Mint vehicles that serve very well.

[ducatilover]

How charming... Guess I'll be speaking to you as yeah, make it stronger then it don't break again. A V8 would use even more fuel and being a V8 or S or SS makes them more and more desirable (read expensive). I've had my thrill from bikes so don't need a hoon ute... That said, there are some very tasty sounding V8s on Youtube...
The majority of auto sparkies will be able to re-con the starter with the up-rated bits and bobs (it's actually why 98% of Ecotecs sound like they crank slow) and it's not very pricey either :yes:
V8's are excellent fun, total hoot to drive. I've seen them average around 12l/100km which is reasonable for a 225kw/465nm beast. They are the best car-esque ute by far if you ask me (no Holden/Ford bias, not a fan of either)

The 3.6L is Alloytec, newer than the Ecotec which is a 3.8L. At least from the google learning I've done. Seems to be limited information and reviews, but reflects it's more of a vehicle for Oz and NZ. Never come across a 3L, wasn't aware it came out in one?
3.0 is the "new" direct injection unit, not entirely sure if it was in the utes. Alloytecs are currently developing some fun cam chain issues, so it's best to be keeping clear unless it's had the chains done. The 3.6 goes well though.

[Nova.]

get a mitsi l200 single cab, you'll fit a bike on there with ease and still have 500mil of gap with the tailgate closed

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/mitsubishi/l200/auction-520802270.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/mitsubishi/l200/auction-521298391.htm

my fave... http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/mitsubishi/l200/auction-513991732.htm

[nzspokes]

Better still.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-517331253.htm

[Gremlin]

On a single cab Hilux I could fit a bike in and close the tailgate on a Commodore I couldn't, I can't remember what year each of them was but you might want to have a measure up
It's close. According to data I'm good for the BMW by more than 100mm, but because the tray sort of cuts under the seats you may not actually get the full length, so quite possibly won't get it on with tail completely shut. Don't need the tail closed, would be nice but wheels are still on the tray. As I say, aware the VU tray is longer than the VS (sort of where my budget lies). Also thinking it's possible to side load if you really wanted... but you'd have to sort tie down points as one of the first orders of business anyway.


Better still.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-517331253.htm
Is he on crack? $17k? There's a lot of things I would buy before that...

[Mental Trousers]

At 5'11 I've always found I band my knees on things in the Falcon's. Also, Ford have always gone for the wrap around feel on the interior so you get the impression you're embedded inside the vehicle. Those 2 points seem to be related. Holden's tend feel roomier cos of that.

If you're towing you want a trailer with an axle set towards the rear otherwise you can occasionally have problems with the back end going light when the weight on the trailer transfers backwards.

Nothing wrong with the Jap utes but the Holden has always been the most comfortable for me. Main thing when you want to carry a bike is the Holden tends to be lower in general than the Jap utes, making loading a bike easier/safer.

My brother has one with a hard cover over the tray. Way more useful than uncovered and removing it is a 2 minute job, although a 2 person one.

Big problem for you is likely to be that the GS is longer than the tray of whatever vehicle you're looking at so the back wheel may not even sit on the tail gate because, as you say, the tray extends under the back of the cabin.

Personally, I've never liked autos. They have higher maintenance costs and require maintenance more frequently.

[rebel]

The AU XR6s are the best value for $$$ utes on the market, most can be had under 10 grand. You will also find the base model BA utes with steelies and bench seat for under 10 grand which are a good buy. Buying a holden you are paying for a badge much like a Hilux. The IRS in the Holden handles better but if you're going that fast around corners on NZs shit roads just jump on the bike instead. In saying that the Falcons will take more weight and tow better. You will also struggle to find a better engine than the 4.0 fucking bulletproof and a lot of torque compared to 3.8.
If buying a Falcon auto fit an external gearbox cooler infront of the radiator as the factory ones are shit and fail prematurely.
My old AU XR6 manual ute had 650,000km on it when I sold her, original engine and gearbox, although first gear syncro was gone, would return 8.5l/100km Auckland-Wellington consistently. I recommend them.

[Gremlin]

Hmm, looked at the Hiluxs, I thought the price of Holdens or Fords varied, the Hiluxs are all over the map. Most of the single cabs have had 'tards modify them... I just get the impression they wouldn't have been looked after. Didn't see any autos (yeah, still lazy). Had a look at the Fords, yup, AU/BA seems reasonably priced, you get a year or two newer than the Holden for the same $$$.

From the reading I've tried to find, Fords have a bigger payload but smaller tray (different construction between the brands), but you get more cabin storage space in the Ford vs Holden. Yup, Ford tows more, handles loads better, but big load weight isn't a factor for me... Some commented the Fords of my target era were a bit cramped for big people. Don't think I can be arsed with bench seats, entry BA has that (think I'd prefer the BA to AU). Would avoid LPG either way, Holden it eats up tray room, but just keep it easy with petrol only. I remember years ago accidentally filling my boss' diesel ute with a few litres of petrol... best I keep it simple, bikes use petrol, car must use petrol :innocent:

Missed the VU II in Gissy, but I'll sit back and keep reading, so keep the advice coming... Eventually the right one will come up. If a mate is wanting to sell, lemme know. Don't care about colour (well, maybe not hot pink).

edit: Already found that 'Treads has some metal wheel chocks for $50, and you can get a mounting kit, so 2 of those (in case I have to carry two bikes) and 3 sets of mounts (single and twin layout). Bolting to tray etc would have to be figured out...

[AllanB]

I've a Tickford AU XR6 Sedan. Thirsty around town but very good on the open road. Tones of torque out of the IL6, it is a big lazy motor. Tickford suspension is very firm - harsh in shitty old CHCH! BA went twin cam with increase in power etc and better on fuel but dearer to purchase.
Ford utes hold their value well.

[DEATH_INC.]

Three issues. First, and biggest, it's a Holden. They even put a dog in the grill so you know what you're getting. Second, it's not a V8. Why drive an aussie tank that doesn't even sound good? They aren't much dearer to run. Third, it has shitty holden irs, so be ready to feed it back tyres on a regular basis, even without doing skids. :yes:

[Quasievil]

Dont Listen to Death, he is confused.
but seriously dude, your simply not cool enough to drive a Holden Ute, best you get a Jappa...................has to be said sorry, Now run along laddy

[Quasievil]

They even put a dog in the grill

Case in Point lol

[Gremlin]

but seriously dude, your simply not cool enough to drive a Holden Ute, best you get a Jappa.......
Sweet, haven't listened to those sorts of opinions since I started school.

Holden it is! :woohoo:


Third, it has shitty holden irs, so be ready to feed it back tyres on a regular basis, even without doing skids.
IRS eats tyres? What sort of mileage are we talking about? If you got something without IRS what would mileage be (normal driving, not spinning it up around every corner)? Thought cars got anywhere from 40-60k from tyres...

[SMOKEU]

Get a Silverado or Cheyenne. You can just afford a road legal one with your budget.

[Sable]

Poor decision lacking in rationale.

[Kickaha]

IRS eats tyres? What sort of mileage are we talking about? If you got something without IRS what would mileage be (normal driving, not spinning it up around every corner)? Thought cars got anywhere from 40-60k from tyres...

IRS wont "eat tyres" if your alignment is ok but non IRS vehicles tend to wear a lot more evenly across the tyre on the rear, the early Holden IRS was non adjustable and had to have an aftermarket kit fitted to even get it within the spec Holden recommended, the guys who any brains fitted two kits to make them both camber and toe adjustable

However if you're going from laden to unladen a lot it can make a difference because as you increase the load the rear ccamber gets more negative

40-50 is more within normal average but it depends on the vehicle, how it is driven, how it is maintained, I've seen early IRS (non adjustable) HSV Commodore sedans towing get as low as 8k

[Nova.]

every cunt and his dog has a holden or ford, theyre all shit.

[scumdog]

every cunt and his dog has a holden or ford, theyre all shit.

EVERY cunt is shit?? - all of them:confused:

[ducatilover]

EVERY cunt is shit?? - all of them:confused:
No, but not far from it?

[Flip]

every cunt and his dog has a holden or ford, theyre all shit.

At least they are not fuckwits in jap crap.

[Gremlin]

At 5'11 I've always found I band my knees on things in the Falcon's. Also, Ford have always gone for the wrap around feel on the interior so you get the impression you're embedded inside the vehicle. Those 2 points seem to be related. Holden's tend feel roomier cos of that.
Did you find that the Fords were more compact across a range of models, or a specific one?

Did more reading last night, seems that really, anything you pick is going to have issues. Holdens VU era can have major tyre wear issues due to IRS issues (to the point that tyres can last 7000km odd). BA Fords are rated as being a bit fragile in the fittings, with a lot of plastic, and diff issues. AU actually seems to come out alright mechanically. VU Holdens still have a bigger tray, the AU Fords can have a big blind spot due to supercab setup (not just AU design tho).

[DEATH_INC.]

IRS wont "eat tyres" if your alignment is ok but non IRS vehicles tend to wear a lot more evenly across the tyre on the rear, the early Holden IRS was non adjustable and had to have an aftermarket kit fitted to even get it within the spec Holden recommended, the guys who any brains fitted two kits to make them both camber and toe adjustable
Remember the earlier days of the commodore IRS (VR-VS) when Holden used to issue 'revised' specs every few months so take into account the sag in the crappy tin-can crossmember...
The issue with the Holdens is it's a crap system, when it compresses under load (ute-think about it....) and acceleration, it gains negative camber, of which they normally have to much already, and it also toes out, the combo of these two things will drastically shorten tyre life.
As Kick mentioned, there are things that can be done, but these are only a band-aid, they don't fix the problem.

[Gremlin]

As Kick mentioned, there are things that can be done, but these are only a band-aid, they don't fix the problem.
Learnt a lot on this thread: http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/vt-vx-holden-commodore-1997-2002/9083-shame-holden-shame.html

Details a guy having a big barny with Holden, but has plenty of good info about the suspension, how to sort etc. No idea how it turned out for him...

[Mental Trousers]

Did you find that the Fords were more compact across a range of models, or a specific one?

Fords in general. Just about every one I've driven I've banged my knees against something. Only seems to happen in Fords. Might just be me.

[ducatilover]

BA Fords are rated as being a bit fragile in the fittings, with a lot of plastic, and diff issues.
I highly doubt you'll be having tyre wear problems unless you have a dirty big load on it.
The AU would be a better choice than the BA, the AU is better built, the engine has less issues and the diff won't explode. How you describe the BA interior is an understatement, they're absolutely disgusting crap, I've owned better built Hyundais. It's a shame because they'd be great otherwise.
I'm with mental trousers on the space issues though.
The motor in the AU is perfectly adequate for towing and has a MLS headgasket instead of the cheese one the E series 4.0 had, also they don't corrode at the rear of the block so often and they have different head gear.
The 4.0 are a better towing motor than the Dunnydore 3.8, but they are a bit over geared.
Factory fitted trans coolers can drop the lines off every now and then
BA Coons are starting to have rust issues (sills, seat mounts)

My money, I'd buy an AU XR6 manual

[Gremlin]

Yeah, looks like it's come down to AU Ford or VU Holden. Counting against the Ford is cabin room for humans and less tray space. Otherwise it seems to be the more robust option.

[ducatilover]

In reality, ignoring the usual fuck-tards Holden vs Ford crap, both do what you need well, both are comfy, so drive one of each and get the one that's nicer for you, because they're both solid, reliable utes.

I've got a '93 1.8 petrol 4spd Hilux I could possibly sell ya :bleh: long wheel base too, could fit a VU in the tray

[stify]

re the rust issue on ford au/ba utes or cars for that matter, this is big issue on these vehicles,we have had 2(2001-2002 au utes) come in for wofs within the last 3 months and both failed due to sill rust,only slight evidence when looking under the vehicle but after poking a camera into the affected area the rust was extensive..if you get one of these get it checked

[Kickaha]

Remember the earlier days of the commodore IRS (VR-VS) when Holden used to issue 'revised' specs every few months so take into account the sag in the crappy tin-can crossmember...
The issue with the Holdens is it's a crap system, when it compresses under load (ute-think about it....) and acceleration, it gains negative camber, of which they normally have to much already, and it also toes out, the combo of these two things will drastically shorten tyre life.
As Kick mentioned, there are things that can be done, but these are only a band-aid, they don't fix the problem.

Local Holden dealer booked an alignment with us one day several years back (pre adjustable rear IRS) and when they turned up I asked if their own machine was broken

No they replied, we're fitting so many kits after doing pre delivery wheel alignments to make the rear adjustable and get the cars in spec that GM Australia have told us we need to do one on our machine because they think there is something wrong with it then get two more done on independent machines to compare the results

All three machines they tested the car on came out pretty much the same, I didn't hear what GM said after that

[Gremlin]

re the rust issue on ford au/ba utes or cars for that matter, this is big issue on these vehicles,we have had 2(2001-2002 au utes) come in for wofs within the last 3 months and both failed due to sill rust,only slight evidence when looking under the vehicle but after poking a camera into the affected area the rust was extensive..if you get one of these get it checked
hmmm, thanks. Do you know if Holdens (VU more particularly) suffer these sorts of rust issues?

[Crasherfromwayback]

umm Holden's in general

Whats wrong with good old Toymotas & Nissan's??? cheaper to run (save you money), reliable (save you money), don't come with a white trash premium (save you money), won't be falling apart as you drive down the street (save you money)... Tho I suppose if you're not a good driver Holden is the brand for you. "people who drive Holden, can't" - car enthusiasts

What a crock of fucking shit!

Rach and I got our hands on a 5.7L SS Ute, only 10k, it drives like a goodin, and you can blow most anything into the weeds with two bikes on the back. It doesn't use any oil, has leather seats and is one of the best vehicles I've ever owned. Driven at sane speeds we got to Taupo from Welly on 1/2 tank of gas. See you in ya Toyota or Nissan any day mate. We'll see how you go!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah, looks like it's come down to AU Ford or VU Holden. Counting against the Ford is cabin room for humans and less tray space. Otherwise it seems to be the more robust option.

There is actually a remarkable amount of room behind the seats of a Comm ute mate.

[Akzle]

6.2 SS crewman

[Crasherfromwayback]

6.2 SS crewman

Awesome Ute I reckon...but the trays are too short to be much use.

[steve_t]

6.2 SS crewman

That'd be hard to find since they never made an LS3 crewman but I'm sure a few people will have shoehorned one in somewhere

[Gremlin]

6.2 SS crewman
As cfwb says, tray is too short, plus they're a bit out of my budget (which has grown from "something cheap" to oooh, that feature would be good...)

I doubt I'd transport a bike bigger than the GSA, but I've come across people shorter than the bike...

[Akzle]

Awesome Ute I reckon...but the trays are too short to be much use.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAm1fJjc6x4

leave the gate down.. get 2 bikes in there i reckon.

can pick up a second handy one for <20k... and they're sexy as hell.

[ducatilover]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAm1fJjc6x4

leave the gate down.. get 2 bikes in there i reckon.

can pick up a second handy one for <20k... and they're sexy as hell.
Ever been in the back of one? Uncomfy as hell.
Better off buying an SS wagon, handle better, ride better, same amount of room.
Then be logical and ride the bike instead of putting it on the ute :lol:

[stify]

hmmm, thanks. Do you know if Holdens (VU more particularly) suffer these sorts of rust issues?

I have not seen any sill rust issues with a vu to date,they tend to suffer from driveline clunks(diff,drive shaft and rear axle play/wear),body control module problems,brake shudder,bent or worn frnt sway bar links,worn top strut bearings, and some other holden related things,I've worked for both holden and ford dealers(workshop team leader/forman etc) and have found the falcon to be a little more durable but the commie does drive more like a car and is more comfy for sure

[steve_t]

I have not seen any sill rust issues with a vu to date,they tend to suffer from driveline clunks(diff,drive shaft and rear axle play/wear),body control module problems,brake shudder,bent or worn frnt sway bar links,worn top strut bearings, and some other holden related things,

Oh yeah, ABS module seems common too

[stify]

Oh yeah, ABS module seems common too

oh that too,it's an easy fix though...if you go to the right place

[caspernz]

At the risk of looking at the topic differently...have you considered a 2 litre car and using a trailer to occasionally transport a bike?

I mean it's not like you're a doctor who buys a Harley and transports it to a rally...:lol:

[Akzle]

Ever been in the back of one? Uncomfy as hell.

the only ute i've been on the back on is my L2 and that was for... err. recreational purposes.:sweatdrop:o

IFFEN i'm IN a cage, i'm either behind the pedals or next to the guy who is.

[Kickaha]

Driven at sane speeds we got to Taupo from Welly on 1/2 tank of gas. See you in ya Toyota or Nissan any day mate. We'll see how you go!
Had a 3.0 turbo Hilux for a few years, they'll hit 160kmh with a bit to spare and with two bikes on the back (closed private road testing) and at semi legal speeds do an easy 6-700 km to a tank of gas

Commodore is a little bit nicer to drive but I'd have the Toyota any day

[Gremlin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAm1fJjc6x4

leave the gate down.. get 2 bikes in there i reckon.
Well I'm not spending $20k... the tray is about 700mm shorter than a standard ute and it's likely the BMW wouldn't fit in with tail up anyway. I think those 700mm would definitely be required. I'm at the point there tho, where I need to take some measurements of the utes and the bike, to see exactly how it would sit (short of taking a ramp to the ute and riding the bike on :lol:)


At the risk of looking at the topic differently...have you considered a 2 litre car and using a trailer to occasionally transport a bike?
Don't have the room to store a trailer, an extra set of fees/maintenance, do I get a bike only one, or something practical, which makes it bigger again. Towing it, storing it, parking it when out etc. It's also the practicality of having the capability right there, rather than needing to fetch a trailer per se... Already had a mate comment it's good of me to get a ute, then he can borrow it... mmmm. It has begun.

Thanks stify. I've gone full circle from Holden to maybe Ford, they're durable, oh rust, Holden, shit, parts... think parts are easier to sort than rust. Rotors seem to be a theme amongst Holden AND Ford... Will be looking carefully at tyre wear on any vehicle tho...

[Scuba_Steve]

What a crock of fucking shit!

Rach and I got our hands on a 5.7L SS Ute, only 10k, it drives like a goodin, and you can blow most anything into the weeds with two bikes on the back. It doesn't use any oil, has leather seats and is one of the best vehicles I've ever owned. Driven at sane speeds we got to Taupo from Welly on 1/2 tank of gas. See you in ya Toyota or Nissan any day mate. We'll see how you go!

course you're neglecting the tanks on those things are on avg twice the size of the jappa's too.
Hey if you've managed to find a Holden that isn't falling apart & you're happy with the fuel usage. Good for you. Me I will stick with the Jappa's, tho truth be told my ute is British running a Holden... Best of both worlds :facepalm:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Had a 3.0 turbo Hilux for a few years, they'll hit 160kmh with a bit to spare and with two bikes on the back (closed private road testing) and at semi legal speeds do an easy 6-700 km to a tank of gas

Commodore is a little bit nicer to drive but I'd have the Toyota any day

Yeah but that wasn't what I meant. He says people that drive Holdens can't or some similar thing...I say fucking bullshit. I bought what I did because I drive them like most people don't. It wasn't the economy thing I was meaning Toyota's and Nissans can't do. Its beat me from here to Gisborne etc. You can drive an SS ute like a sports car even with bikes and gear on. And I do. It's fucking awesome. I can drive it like I did my XJR Jag...but maybe quicker...WITH bikes on board.

[ducatilover]

course you're neglecting the tanks on those things are on avg twice the size of the jappa's too.
Hey if you've managed to find a Holden that isn't falling apart & you're happy with the fuel usage. Good for you. Me I will stick with the Jappa's, tho truth be told my ute is British running a Holden... Best of both worlds :facepalm:
65L tank from memory. :niceone:
The V8s can do under 10L/100km, the manual is actually quite decent on the open road

[Crasherfromwayback]

course you're neglecting the tanks on those things are on avg twice the size of the jappa's too.
Hey if you've managed to find a Holden that isn't falling apart & you're happy with the fuel usage. Good for you. Me I will stick with the Jappa's, tho truth be told my ute is British running a Holden... Best of both worlds :facepalm:

Nah. It can't be too large mate...even at the price of fuel now think the most I've put in it was $155.00. So for me...to drive to Taupo for $80.00...I'm well happy. And I'll take you for a drive in it anytime if you like. It's done 230000 km's...but still out handles the XJR I last drove. With bikes on. It doesn't rattle or squeak...steers and brakes well. Flys throw every wof check...and sounds better than any diesel ute every built. Did I mention it has a full leather interior? :bleh:

[Crasherfromwayback]

65L tank from memory. :niceone:
The V8s can do under 10L/100km, the manual is actually quite decent on the open road

Yeah they're fucking great. Ours is an auto...but 120kph = around 2000 rpm. So hardly working hard. Put the cruise control on...and relax.

[Gremlin]

Yeah they're fucking great. Ours is an auto...but 120kph = around 2000 rpm. So hardly working hard. Put the cruise control on...and relax.
Where's my VU V8 SS etc etc for $10k :mad:

Not that I actually want a V8, but compared to where the prices are right now...

[ducatilover]

Where's my VU V8 SS etc etc for $10k :mad:

Not that I actually want a V8, but compared to where the prices are right now...
Buy with higher kms :niceone:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Where's my VU V8 SS etc etc for $10k :mad:

Not that I actually want a V8, but compared to where the prices are right now...

It's weird. Rach and I decided we wanted one. I insisted it was a V8 and leather. One came up...they guy seemed legit (yes we could've got burnt)...stated in his auction that it had a noisey water pump. Had a starting price of 10k. We were the only bidders. I've not seen one since for that price. Rach flew up and drove it home. The water pump was nearly falling out of it. $150.00 later and it's been awesome.

Doubt you'll regret it if you buy an 8. So much smoother than the V6 I reckon. I've always found them a bit harsh feeling. If you're ever in Welly...you can borrow ours for a weekend to see how you like it.

[Scuba_Steve]

Yeah but that wasn't what I meant. He says people that drive Holdens can't or some similar thing...I say fucking bullshit. I bought what I did because I drive them like most people don't.

General rule & maybee you're the exception? But worst drivers by manufacturer: Holden. Just like worst by occupation: Judges (and they're the ones deciding you're a bad driver :facepalm:), worst by vehicle type: people movers, worst ethnicity: Asian (tho that might just be by population domination, I have noticed Samoans tend to be pretty bad too), worst population sector: little old ladies etc etc etc All generalisations, all have exceptions to the rule, but bad drivers these are.


65L tank from memory. :niceone:
The V8s can do under 10L/100km, the manual is actually quite decent on the open road

Thought most Holdens & Ford's were 90l, mates V6 commodore is & even the 2l Mondeo has 90l tank


Nah. It can't be too large mate...even at the price of fuel now think the most I've put in it was $155.00. So for me...to drive to Taupo for $80.00...I'm well happy. And I'll take you for a drive in it anytime if you like. It's done 230000 km's...but still out handles the XJR I last drove. With bikes on. It doesn't rattle or squeak...steers and brakes well. Flys throw every wof check...and sounds better than any diesel ute every built. Did I mention it has a full leather interior? :bleh:

Might have to take you up on that, be interesting to see a Holden not falling apart :lol: Would be the 1st one I've ever seen.
As for sounding better than a Diesel... That's personal opinion. I quite like the sound of Diesel, but then I tend to be somewhat more unique in my likes. My dream cage would be a something along the lines of a Kenworth T904, & I have little interest in cars I likes my trucks & vans (tho not the modern "safe" ones they ugly!)

[ducatilover]

Thought most Holdens & Ford's were 90l, mates V6 commodore is & even the 2l Mondeo has 90l tank




VX sedan had a 75L tank. The ute's around that or 65L, been a while since I've been in one getting filled.
I've never seen a 90L on a Commodore, even the VS series was smaller (73ish for the V8)

[Crasherfromwayback]

VX sedan had a 75L tank. The ute's around that or 65L, been a while since I've been in one getting filled.
I've never seen a 90L on a Commodore, even the VS series was smaller (73ish for the V8)

My XJR had a 90L tank. Nasty when you have to fill 'em!

[ducatilover]

My XJR had a 90L tank. Nasty when you have to fill 'em!
My E34 535i had one too. I was not a happy chappy first time I filled that :rolleyes: didn't last long either... what model XJR was yours? The 6 or 8?

[Crasherfromwayback]

My E34 535i had one too. I was not a happy chappy first time I filled that :rolleyes: didn't last long either... what model XJR was yours? The 6 or 8?

Yeah the Jag drank the shit at a great rate if you were driving it hard. Gotta love the noise from the blower though eh! Just the 6. Still went pretty well for a two tonne car.

[ducatilover]

Yeah the Jag drank the shit at a great rate if you were driving it hard. Gotta love the noise from the blower though eh! Just the 6. Still went pretty well for a two tonne car.
Great value for money these days :2thumbsup petrol usage usually equates to smiles anyway, so it's well worth it.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Great value for money these days :2thumbsup petrol usage usually equates to smiles anyway, so it's well worth it.

Yeah well I sold mine for only 10k, was thousands cheaper than any other one for sale at the time. Just like the ute that replaced it! Had to have the trans fully rebuilt. Cost me 4k, and had nearly 5k worth of stereo in it. Was a bargin for the next geezer. Was great to drive though...I do miss it. Drove it Wellingto to Gisborne a couple of times in 5 hrs flat. Empty roads of course. Christmas day both times. No one around at all. Have decided it's THE best day for such trips.

[huff3r]

Where's my VU V8 SS etc etc for $10k :mad:

Not that I actually want a V8, but compared to where the prices are right now...

You can have the ford for $10k.. http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/ford/xr8/auction-521518431.htm

I'd definitely go V8. Purely for the grin factor. Although my V8 does use 15-20l/100kms but it is an 80s Range Rover!
Autos are great for when you are feeling lazy. I love manuals, but the price premium is just extreme for most decent second hand cars.

[Gremlin]

You can have the ford for $10k.. http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/ford/xr8/auction-521518431.htm
300k on the clock, would prefer to stay around 200k, but there are a few I've spoken to around the 150-200k mark...

Looks like I'm back to the Holden VU anyway... rust scares me, especially if it's structural. Seemingly their design and build allows it, then again, not all vehicles have it...

[huff3r]

300k on the clock, would prefer to stay around 200k, but there are a few I've spoken to around the 150-200k mark...

Looks like I'm back to the Holden VU anyway... rust scares me, especially if it's structural. Seemingly their design and build allows it, then again, not all vehicles have it...

There is another for around $10500 in the South Island with 260ish, looks tidier. Just be extra vigilant when checking them out, I'm sure they can't all be bad.

Seems terrible that a 12yr old vehicle could be falling apart with rust when both mine are in their mid-late 20s and are still going strong!

[Gremlin]

There is another for around $10500 in the South Island with 260ish, looks tidier. Just be extra vigilant when checking them out, I'm sure they can't all be bad.

Seems terrible that a 12yr old vehicle could be falling apart with rust when both mine are in their mid-late 20s and are still going strong!
Some have reported rust within 3 years of purchasing new... Very hard checking one out, out of Auckland, as live there and have a mechanic in Howick and know another on North Shore to inspect. Then again, there seems to be a premium in Auckland...

Still, I'll wait for the right one to appear :wait:

[scumdog]

My XJR had a 90L tank. Nasty when you have to fill 'em!

My F100 costs $320 to fill up.

gets 20litres per 100kph

Not your average Ford ute.

But a V8 with a light throttle will get nearly 30mpg (less than 10litres per 100km)

[Laava]

gets 20litres per 100kph

It uses 20 litres to get to 100kph? Has it got the old fashioned 272 (boat anchor) in it?

[Kickaha]

course you're neglecting the tanks on those things are on avg twice the size of the jappa's too.
The Hiliux I had was 70L

Has it got the old fashioned 272 (boat anchor) in it?
Doesn't have anything as small and pissy as that

[scumdog]

It uses 20 litres to get to 100kph? Has it got the old fashioned 272 (boat anchor) in it?

Doing laps at the Beach Hop it used more than that and never got to 50kph...

Smarty pants!!:bleh:

[Crasherfromwayback]

My F100 costs $320 to fill up.

gets 20litres per 100kph

Not your average Ford ute.

But a V8 with a light throttle will get nealy 30mpg (less than 10litres per 100km)

Pictures please!!!???

[Akzle]

65L tank from memory. :niceone:
The V8s can do under 10L/100km, the manual is actually quite decent on the open road

it's cheaper for the uncle to drive his 5.7 V8 to auckland and back than for me in the 2.6 4cyl. (also cheaper for 2.5 skyline 6....)
110km/h in my truck =3k rpm, in v8 = 1900rpm

[98tls]

Post up pics of the truck T,shes a beauty.On the rust in BA Falcons ive had both XR6 and 8 utes (still have the 8) and havent had any problem,personally would take a BA over the earlier model anyday.

[ducatilover]

it's cheaper for the uncle to drive his 5.7 V8 to auckland and back than for me in the 2.6 4cyl. (also cheaper for 2.5 skyline 6....)
110km/h in my truck =3k rpm, in v8 = 1900rpm
Try the manual 5.7, you'll be humming along at ~1300rpm in 6th:devil2:

[scumdog]

Pictures please!!!???

Hey Pete, look at page 25 in the October issue of NZ Rodder if'n ya want a look!, hell, if ya buy it I'll autograph it!:lol:


But just in case you're too cheap..271542

[Crasherfromwayback]

Hey Pete, look at page 25 in the October issue of NZ Rodder if'n ya want a look!, hell, if ya buy it I'll autograph it!:lol:


But just in case you're too cheap..:

Fuggin choice!:headbang:

[onearmedbandit]

That's mint Scummy, hard as.

[boman]

I own a 2002 VU V8 ute.

I can get my 675 Daytona on the back, with a tiedown to hold the tail gate shut. The bike causes the tail gate to hang open by approx 200-300mm.

Economy wise, I can get from Pukekohe to Otaki on a tank of gas, with cruise control set to 110 kph.

If I use it to go to work on, I can do 180-200kms on $50.00 gas.

[Gremlin]

I own a 2002 VU V8 ute.

I can get my 675 Daytona on the back, with a tiedown to hold the tail gate shut. The bike causes the tail gate to hang open by approx 200-300mm.
Thanks. Looks like the GSA is about 200mm longer so I'm definitely going to want all the space in the tray I can get. I plan to measure up total length, length from front to rear axle etc, then measure up ute trays (from top rim)...

Scummy... noice. I can see why it's addicted to fuel :devil2:

[98tls]

every cunt and his dog has a holden or ford, theyre all shit.

Dog on the back of my ute said to tell ya your a "fucking clown".:tugger:

[SMOKEU]

Try the manual 5.7, you'll be humming along at ~1300rpm in 6th:devil2:

What's the fuel consumption like at a constant 100kmh in 6th gear?


Hey Pete, look at page 25 in the October issue of NZ Rodder if'n ya want a look!, hell, if ya buy it I'll autograph it!:lol:


But just in case you're too cheap..

Pour some diesel on the road and do a skid. Make sure you upload the video to Youtube.

[scumdog]

Fuggin choice!:headbang:

Ta Pete and all you others that appreciate it.

Had it since '74, put the 429 &C6 into it in '77 and it's still going strong, painted it like that in '84.

17-and-a-bit mpg on a good day, 13.9 1/4 on a good day. (Too long in the legs with a 2.75:1 diff!)

But good for 130mph + in a flying 1/4 even with the aerodynamics of a blunt brick and 2080kg weight.

OK, better get back on topic to keep the mods happy!!:devil2:

[98tls]

Ta Pete and all you others that appreciate it.

Had it since '74, put the 429 &C6 into it in '77 and it's still going strong, painted it like that in '84.

17-and-a-bit mpg on a good day, 13.9 1/4 on a good day. (Too long in the legs with a 2.75:1 diff!)

But good for 130mph + in a flying 1/4 even with the aerodynamics of a blunt brick and 2080kg weight.

OK, better get back on topic to keep the mods happy!!:devil2:

The topic was Ford/Holden utes so no problem S.Went up to CH-CH and back today in my ute and after earlier reading this thread and some of the mpg figures quoted thought i would see how cheaply i could do it,got to the Waitaki bridge and thought "fuck it who cares".:wacko:

[scumdog]

Pour some diesel on the road and do a skid. Make sure you upload the video to Youtube.

"pour some diesel on the road and do a skid"? - how old are ya? - 12?

And how gutless do ya think the truck is that I'd need diesel to do a skid? - it's not a ferkin' 'rolla sonny!

[Nova.]

"pour some diesel on the road and do a skid"? - how old are ya? - 12?

And how gutless do ya think the truck is that I'd need diesel to do a skid? - it's not a ferkin' 'rolla sonny!
sorry, petrol then.

[duckonin]

Hey Pete, look at page 25 in the October issue of NZ Rodder if'n ya want a look!, hell, if ya buy it I'll autograph it!:lol:


But just in case you're too cheap.


Now that is nice..

[duckonin]

Dog on the back of my ute said to tell ya your a "fucking clown".:tugger:

I bet he did. Border Collies do not tell lies. Best of all breeds..:2thumbsup

[Akzle]

"pour some diesel on the road and do a skid"? - how old are ya? - 12?


sorry, petrol then.

:facepalm:


12 year olds doing skids on diesel... huh.

[ducatilover]

What's the fuel consumption like at a constant 100kmh in 6th gear?




I've done just over 7L/100 km on an open road trip in one, had headers, catback, CAI and MAFless tune.

[98tls]

I've done just over 7L/100 km on an open road trip in one, had headers, catback, CAI and MAFless tune.

No offence d but surely the only reason you would remember that figure was because it was the most boring road trip you have ever done,as i posted earlier i went up to ch-ch and back today in a BA XR8 ute (big $ exhaust work/airbox etc ) and thought i would see how cheaply i could do it,perfect trip for such a thing as pretty much non stop straight roads from here to there,25kms into it i simply gave up,probably the best thing to do as i would have gone to sleep.

[ducatilover]

No offence d but surely the only reason you would remember that figure was because it was the most boring road trip you have ever done,as i posted earlier i went up to ch-ch and back today in a BA XR8 ute (big $ exhaust work/airbox etc ) and thought i would see how cheaply i could do it,perfect trip for such a thing as pretty much non stop straight roads from here to there,25kms into it i simply gave up,probably the best thing to do as i would have gone to sleep.
Wasn't my car, when I dropped him off it became a different story.
260kw at the rubber, three pedals and not my tyres.
Them VX Dunnydores are beautiful to slap sideways
I had to pay for petrol though, that hurt;)

[SMOKEU]

"pour some diesel on the road and do a skid"? - how old are ya? - 12?

And how gutless do ya think the truck is that I'd need diesel to do a skid? - it's not a ferkin' 'rolla sonny!

13 years old actually. Also, with diesel, it puts less stress on your engine and drivetrain which means you can do more skids until it blows up.


No offence d but surely the only reason you would remember that figure was because it was the most boring road trip you have ever done,as i posted earlier i went up to ch-ch and back today in a BA XR8 ute (big $ exhaust work/airbox etc ) and thought i would see how cheaply i could do it,perfect trip for such a thing as pretty much non stop straight roads from here to there,25kms into it i simply gave up,probably the best thing to do as i would have gone to sleep.

Apparently having too much fun is illegal.

[ducatilover]

13 years old actually. Also, with diesel, it puts less stress on your engine and drivetrain which means you can do more skids until it blows up.



Apparently having too much fun is illegal.
Be a man.
Soak the tyres in kerosene, leave them in a dark/cool garage
Do skids at Xmas. You'll thank me, smokiest shit you'll ever see... even in an AE92 with a 4af... DAMHIK

[rebel]

300k on the clock, would prefer to stay around 200k, but there are a few I've spoken to around the 150-200k mark...

Looks like I'm back to the Holden VU anyway... rust scares me, especially if it's structural. Seemingly their design and build allows it, then again, not all vehicles have it...

Wouldn't waste my time with the 5.0s (Holden and Ford) they sound good and are pretty tough but the 4.0 makes nearly as much torque and power for less gas.
300k isn't a lot for an Aussie car. I'd be more worried about general condition and service history than kays.
As for the rust the utes arent as bad as the sedans. The rust issue has been blown out of proportion, most cars are rust free, and most rust filled cars are cabs.
My 5.4 V8 Fairlane returns 9-9.5 on a trip. My old 4.4 BMW 540i was down to 8.6l/100km Let the muppets think they like to drink, it drops the price so those of us without our heads up our arses can buy them cheaper.

[Swoop]

General rule ... But worst drivers by manufacturer: Holden. Just like worst by occupation: Judges, worst by vehicle type: people movers, worst ethnicity: Asian (tho that might just be by population domination, I have noticed Samoans tend to be pretty bad too), worst population sector: little old ladies etc etc etc All generalisations, all have exceptions to the rule, but bad drivers these are.
An interesting generalisation, but missing a few...

Thought most Holdens & Ford's were 90l, mates V6 commodore is & even the 2l Mondeo has 90l tank
75Ltr is most common on the Commy.

Then again, there seems to be a premium in Auckland...
A workmate flew to Dunedin to pick up a hilux, then drove back to Auck. Much cheaper than buying up here and they are rarely seen for sale.

[Gremlin]

Fuel tank capacity on the VU utes is 70L (according to specs I found anyway).

I had a look today at a VU SS (mmm, some aftermarket exhaust perfect for neighbours you hate at 0600 :drool: ) and it was a little hard to tell, as it had a hard lid, but I think you lose about 300m at the front of the tray for loading bikes. Tray length is about 2.2m (a forum says 2.1m), so you're going to get 1.8 - 1.9m of load space for bikes. The BMW is about 2.15m long (front to rear tyre, the rear carrier makes it's stats longer), and a little more than 300mm from rear axle to tyre.

Basically this means that both wheels should just get onto the tray. Shorter bikes you could probably start lifting the tray (or load them sideways).

[Crasherfromwayback]

Fuel tank capacity on the VU utes is 70L (according to specs I found anyway).

I had a look today at a VU SS.

I've owned a shitload of bike movers over the years, and I can say hand on heart our VU SS is THE best vehicle I've ever driven for the purpose. Only just put a battery in it now. Pretty good for the time we've had it. No other issues whatsoever.

[Brett]

Screw both of them Alan. I wouldn't swap my Toyota Prado for either of them! (And I am a big V8 fan...albeit Euro V8's as opposed to Yank or Aussie grunters...)

[Crasherfromwayback]

Screw both of them Alan. I wouldn't swap my Toyota Prado for either of them! (And I am a big V8 fan...albeit Euro V8's as opposed to Yank or Aussie grunters...)

Your Audi with the roof chopped off it would make an awesome ute!

[Gremlin]

Your Audi with the roof chopped off it would make an awesome ute!
I think the load deck would be pretty crap tho...

Hey Brett, read the posts matey... I want to transport bikes if I have to own 4 wheels! Vans are out as well because I watch them get blown sideways (or over) on the Harbour Bridge...

Still, feel free to send that Audi my way for a chop job :lol:

[Brett]

Your Audi with the roof chopped off it would make an awesome ute!

If the weather was half reasonable it would crasher! Might lack some of the low down grunt for towing big loads however.

[Brett]

I think the load deck would be pretty crap tho...

Hey Brett, read the posts matey... I want to transport bikes if I have to own 4 wheels! Vans are out as well because I watch them get blown sideways (or over) on the Harbour Bridge...

Still, feel free to send that Audi my way for a chop job :lol:

That's what trailers are for mate! The times you would cart a bike around would be for what...track days? My personal experience is that I would generally end up with 2 or 3 mates riding along to the track day, and as such...the ability to carry passengers as well as the bikes is helpful. Especially once you throw in all the gear and paraphenalia that goes along with it.

I sold my S4 anyway...so alas, we will not be able to chop shop it and find out! Agree with you re: vans though. Not my cuppa either.

[Scuba_Steve]

Your search is over, I've found the perfect transport solution here

http://newzealandmafia.com/files/image004.jpg

[Brett]

I bet that cat in that photo knows how to PARTY.

[Gremlin]

That's what trailers are for mate! The times you would cart a bike around would be for what...track days?
You should read the thread :rolleyes:

Don't have the space to store a trailer, don't want the extra expense, maintenance. Go anywhere and it's harder to park etc. Ute is also for practicality of carrying other loads, and I don't really do track days.

[Brett]

You should read the thread :rolleyes:

Don't have the space to store a trailer, don't want the extra expense, maintenance. Go anywhere and it's harder to park etc. Ute is also for practicality of carrying other loads, and I don't really do track days.

Why would I waste 20 minutes doing such a thing when I know you will set me straight so much quicker aye?

[BMWST?]

get a mitsi l200 single cab, you'll fit a bike on there with ease and still have 500mil of gap with the tailgate closed

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/mitsubishi/l200/auction-520802270.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/mitsubishi/l200/auction-521298391.htm

my fave... http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/mitsubishi/l200/auction-513991732.htm

mil is a measurement of volume...

[huff3r]

mil is a measurement of volume...

Actually a mil is just a thousandth of something. Eg. Millilitre is a thousandth of a litre, millimetre is a thousandth of a metre. Generally mil on it's own is referring to an Imperial measurement however, also known as the "thou" or thousandth of an inch. :mellow:

[Gremlin]

Currently got my eye on two... favourite is a gold V6 S, done 145k, but he's not saying yes or no to my offer as he wants a bit more, but will see how the auction runs (early November).

Other is a V8 SS, more km but closer to Auckland, so I'll wait and see how the V6 goes...

[Brett]

Currently got my eye on two... favourite is a gold V6 S, done 145k, but he's not saying yes or no to my offer as he wants a bit more, but will see how the auction runs (early November).

Other is a V8 SS, more km but closer to Auckland, so I'll wait and see how the V6 goes...

Surely the V8 SS would retain value a bit better too?

[Gremlin]

Surely the V8 SS would retain value a bit better too?
They all seem to hold their value, just compare prices to sedans. Ultimately, there has to be people wanting them, and it's only worth what someone is prepared to pay...

[gijoe1313]

So you going to ride and collect it and put the bike straight onto it? :lol:

[Gremlin]

Hmm... been almost 2 months since I started the thread... still hunting.

The value of a good pre-purchase check was highlighted this morning on what looked like a very nice VU Storm ute. However, once the family mechanic had thrown it on the hoist, possible evidence of crash damage, new suspension components not fitted correctly, engine misfiring and various other things... crikey, stayed well clear. Looks like I'm confined to utes I can put through the mechanic coz it's pretty cheap insurance. Don't mind the odd potential issue if the price reflects it, but not after one that's been thrashed and not maintained :confused:

Still got a few more to slowly work through... but the bloody budget keeps creeping up. I initially started looking for older in the $5-7k range, but liked the increased space of VU, then the air bags, cruise control etc, so want a minimum of an S rather than base... now it's looking more like $12-13k :facepalm:

The gold one has disappeared, with extra knowledge it was probably a good buy. Another ute owner was a smoker, so ruled it out fast, one wanted a bit too much (then sold shortly after I thought no)... and so on...

Realised a couple of days ago I don't want to add up the amount of time spent every evening reading, learning, trawling forums for knowledge etc. In typical fashion, I've made an excel spreadsheet of every North Island ute, split between VU-VY-VZ (but I'll avoid the Alloytec) and base, S, SS... got 1-2 pages of utes, which allows quick comparisons to it's peers...

[Akzle]

The value of a good pre-purchase check was highlighted this morning

...I've made an excel spreadsheet of every North Island ute,

a) good

b) pah!
surely ute > no ute?

guess you're not much of an impulse buyer.

(got a thrashed L200 i'll sell you for 5-7k$)

[Gremlin]

Well, my hunt for a 4 wheeled contraption is over... agreeing to a ute from a dealer in Mt Maunganui (collecting on Saturday).

$11,500, 166k and seems to be in excellent nick. The oddity is that it has the next model front end (VY front on VU II), not sure if an owner simply wanted it or what...

[nodrog]

Well, my hunt for a 4 wheeled contraption is over... agreeing to a ute from a dealer in Mt Maunganui (collecting on Saturday).

$11,500, 166k and seems to be in excellent nick. The oddity is that it has the next model front end (VY front on VU II), not sure if an owner simply wanted it or what...

CHOICE! make sure you take all the doors and panels off until you get used to driving it.

[ducatilover]

Not bad at all :yes:

[Gremlin]

CHOICE! make sure you take all the doors and panels off until you get used to driving it.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure if I stamp on the brake it will stop and not fall over? :confused:

If I manage to get this to fall over I'm doing something very wrong :laugh:

[Mental Trousers]

Make sure you check for crash damage if it's got a different front on it. Otherwise, it looks ..... loud.

[Nova.]

shoulda got a maloo, faggot.:laugh:

[Gremlin]

Make sure you check for crash damage if it's got a different front on it. Otherwise, it looks ..... loud.
Yeah, was worried about that, but any possible damage has been well repaired. Welds above wheel well look original etc. Dealer said something about a previous owner being a good customer of insurance but didn't want it back. Pre-purchase showed no signs, but I'll only truly know when family mechanic puts it on the hoist and gives it a final check. Probably early in the new year (combined with service) as he's booked out to Christmas bar urgent stuff.

Not that loud, supposed to sound nice, but it's "only" a v6.


shoulda got a maloo, faggot.:laugh:
Hah. V8, expensive to buy, expensive to maintain (HSV parts), uses premium gas where the Holden ones use 91 etc etc. I imagine there will be a V8 ute in my future, but this will suffice for several years...

[Mental Trousers]

Not that loud, supposed to sound nice, but it's "only" a v6.

Loud as in the graphics.