Paint job for Yamaha FZR 250?

[pratik8890]

Hello all, I have a Yamaha FZR 250, its been two years now since I have owned it, its in a good nick mechanically but it looks a bit shabby with the color on it. So I've been wondering around at few different spray painters who could do a decent paint job on the bike, but unfortunately they charge a lot even for just painting the bike in plain white color, I visited one of the local place here in New Plymouth recently and the guys gave me a quote for $1000 to paint it in white..It nearly killed me cos the bike's nearly worth 2 grand or so..So I was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction to find a place who does a decent job at a reasonable price, Local is preferred but I'm happy to travel to Auckland, Wellington, Palmerston North, Hamilton or any other nearby place to get the job done if some one offers it at a decent price. I have been reading few threads lately on here and it's costing between $300 to $500 max to get a decent paint job done on a bike between 250 to 600 cc.. Many thanks in advance to all who responds.

P.S-I have also attached a picture of the Bike with the current situation ( color )

[Fast Eddie]

D.i.y.

<_<

[tigertim20]

man, a thousand bucks IS a cheap job for a whole bike. really it just isnt worth it unless you want to tackle it yourself, but to do a decent job with several coats and clear with rattle cans would still cost heaps, so hardly worth doing unless you have the h=proper equipment, or access to it, to do the job yourself.

I suppose for $500 I could get my brother to colour it in with crayons, but I warn you in advance, he isnt very good at staying in the lines - he's a spastic.

[baffa]

I recently got some cracks on the fairings fixed and a complete strip and respray, so even without the repairs I'd say $1000 is a fair price for a good job.

Add up the man hours dissasembling, stripping, and sanding, then assuming you dont buy crappy paint, I'd rather pay $1000 and get a good job than pay $500 for some shonky job

[SMOKEU]

Give the fairings a light sand with some 400 grit sandpaper and then matt black it with some spray cans.

[baffa]

Lol 400 grit would look pretty nasty.

Actually no, do it, I wanna see the final result.

[mossy1200]

This is $500

Worth of paint

[pratik8890]

Thank to all, Yeah I know $1000 is could be the right price for a decent paint job but I have been reading few forums on here where few of us got pretty good paint jobs on their bikes for $250 to $500. Please follow the links below where one guy got paint for his bike done fo $ 250:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/archive/index.php/t-54310.html

The 2nd guy got his for $500:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/archive/index.php/t-148355.html

SO after reading these threads above made me curious as to why not do some research and find someone whoc could do a good job at the right price.:yes:

Hey Mossy1200 Bud, could you please tell me where did u get the paint job done on your wonderful bike, The paint on your bike looks mean as, I wouldn't hesitate even for a second to get a paint like that on my bike, Please let me know the name of the place and I could come down to Welly to get it done from there. Thanks in advance :)

[ducatilover]

$1k is decent.
It'd be a fair bit less if you do the prep work yourself. If I had a decent compressor here I'd be happy to do it, but I don't think that's happening any time soon

[James Deuce]

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[mossy1200]

Hey Mossy1200 Bud, could you please tell me where did u get the paint job done on your wonderful bike, The paint on your bike looks mean as, I wouldn't hesitate even for a second to get a paint like that on my bike, Please let me know the name of the place and I could come down to Welly to get it done from there. Thanks in advance :)

PM automan6

$500 was the price of the paint though.

There was 6 base colours 7 fleck types etc.
Idd say he would charge 2k with labour for the same type of paint job.

[rossirep]

a $2000 paint job will make it sooooo awesome, almost as cool as mine..
do it buddy, its how us yamaha riders roll

[pratik8890]

Thank u Ducatilover, Mossy 1200 and Rossirep,
@ Mossy1200- Yeah that wud be expensive, I hope i cud give him sum help with the labour work to reduce the overall cost. I cundt pm Automan6 atm as I have recently started using the site ( due to lack of rights ). SO is there anyway you could tell him to contact me or provide me with his email or any other contact info and I cud prolly negotiate a price with him.

@ Rossirep- Yeah bruv ur right but it not worth as I'll be upgrading to a bigger bike in next 6 months as I will have my full license by then, Its a gud bike but as a bike lover we have to ride em all n ive had this since last 2 years so I feel like I'm over riding 250 cc bikes..

Thanks again everyone for ur advise, much appreciate it :)

P.s _ I humbly request all the regular members to give their opinion on this thread. Ta

[mossy1200]

Thank u Ducatilover, Mossy 1200 and Rossirep,
@ Mossy1200- Yeah that wud be expensive, I hope i cud give him sum help with the labour work to reduce the overall cost. I cundt pm Automan6 atm as I have recently started using the site ( due to lack of rights ). SO is there anyway you could tell him to contact me or provide me with his email or any other contact info and I cud prolly negotiate a price with him.



I have emailed him and sent the link to this thread also.
He doesnt use the site often but he will see the link.
I cant really give out his email address but he should respond to the thread.

[pratik8890]

Thank you again Mossy1200, I will keep an eye out for it.

[SPman]

This is a rattlecan job done at home - including all the logos.....

a lot of work, though.....

[Asher]

You could look at getting some painted Chinese made fairings.
When I looked at painting my bike, getting new fairings shipped here and out the cheapest option. It was around $650

[Fast Eddie]

but I have been reading few forums on here where few of us got pretty good paint jobs on their bikes for $250 to $500.

so then why don't you ask those people that got 250-500 dollar paint jobs where they got theirs done and send your bike there??

I paint a bit of stuff, paint alone is worth heaps, depending on what your using but you could pay over 100 per litre and need at least 2 litres, plus primer and undercoat. plus the man hours spent prepping the body work..

if you find someone keen to paint bikes for 250 all up - then make sure you make a thread and advertise them like hell lol!

[ducatilover]

I'm more than happy to do a $250 paint job for you.
It'll look shit though

[tigertim20]

Thank to all, Yeah I know $1000 is could be the right price for a decent paint job but I have been reading few forums on here where few of us got pretty good paint jobs on their bikes for $250 to $500. Please follow the links below where one guy got paint for his bike done fo $ 250:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/archive/index.php/t-54310.html

The 2nd guy got his for $500:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/archive/index.php/t-148355.html

SO after reading these threads above made me curious as to why not do some research and find someone whoc could do a good job at the right price.:yes:

Hey Mossy1200 Bud, could you please tell me where did u get the paint job done on your wonderful bike, The paint on your bike looks mean as, I wouldn't hesitate even for a second to get a paint like that on my bike, Please let me know the name of the place and I could come down to Welly to get it done from there. Thanks in advance :)
okIll be clearer for you.
$1000 is cheap.its almost mates rates cheap if you want a decent job done of it, painting motorcycles with their unique curves and shit is quite labour intensive.

To get a decent job done UNDER $1000 you basically have two options.
Do it yourself.
or
have a friend who is a good painter who owes you a favour offer to do it cheaply because hes ya mate and you owe him.
just materials like the paint, clear cot if necessary, any base coats, any plastic welding that needs to be done first to repair small cracks etc, sandpaper and whatnot could easily run you $700+, thats before you account for the TIME it takes to do it.

at under a grand, you are basically asking a professional to do all the actual work for free.

[DEATH_INC.]

I'm more than happy to do a $250 paint job for you.
It'll look shit though
Lol, I'll do a decent job for that, but you'll have to do ALL the prep work. That means stripping all the stickers/graphics off, rubbing the fairings back so there's no lines where the clear ended at said stickers and giving the whole thing a going over with silicone remover and something around 600 grit. That'll get it ready for primer...then that will need to be 600/1000 back to dead smooth.
Count on around 2-3 full days solid work. The $250 will just cover the cost of the paint. You'll need a few sheets of sandpaper and some tape and silicone remover.
I GUARANTEE that after day 1 you'll think a grand is a pretty sweet deal.

Option 2 is that it could be sprayed with 2k enamel, a whole lot less prep (still a good couple of days worth), but way less colour options and it won't have the depth of a 2k COB job. Still cost the same tho.

[pratik8890]

@ Spman-That looks gud bruv, any idea how much did it cost u to get it done?

@Asher-Do u know a place where I cud buy those painted fairings? TY

@FastEddie-I will go throught those old archives to get their details and hit thme up for the painters details, ty for ur suggestion.

@DucatiLover- Ty for ur help anyway :)

@Tigertim20-Yer ur right, I'll aks one of my Motorbike mate if he cud assit me with doin that.

@DEATH_INC- Yeah brah, but I dont have a choice as the Bike is only worth 2 Kish so it not wise/sorth spending such an amount of dosh to get the paint done..:)


I am still hopeful for someone/something may come up with a ray of hope :)

[SPman]

@ Spman-That looks gud bruv, any idea how much did it cost u to get it done?
Cost me nothing - cost Matt, who rebuilt the bike from a soggy wiring loom fire mess, (he bought the bike for parts, originally) lots of time, effort and about 20 cans of paint. He certainly didn't do it for the money.......

[McFatty1000]

I'm in the same boat as you with mine. Look on ebay, painted fairing are about $600 ish shipped and apparently aren't too bad either, the fitting isn't perfect so is a little fiddly but once its on it looks good, thats the route I'm going when I feel like running out the bank account.

Ie
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ABS-bodywork-for-90-91-FZR250R-fairings-3LN3-92-93-FZR250-FZR-3LN5-94-3LN6-B-/280965274871?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item416ad5dcf7&vxp=mtr

[pratik8890]

Thanks again SPman for ur reply,

@ McFatty1000- Hey bud did u check out the picture posted by Mossy1200 on the very 1st page if this thread? That Bike there has been painted by his mate Automan6, I winder If both of us cud get a gud deal on gettin our bikes painted by Him, i.e If ur keen as well? Combined job will save us money I guess? I'm still waiting for him to get in contact with me. Hope he does that soon enough..:scooter:

[McFatty1000]

I would, however, I'm just getting the carbs redone fully so not too wealthy at the moment and my fairings really need replaced due to the age and how brittle they've become. So sorry about that but not quite.

Potential on combined shipping on new ones off ebay but not sure how much that would actually help.

Do you know what paint scheme yours was originally?

[Hoon]

I just spent the last 4 days repainting my bike. I've sanded each panel 4 times, sprayed them 3 times, cleaned them 5 times and cut'n polish. Not only that but the effort of cleaning and setting up the work areas take a lot of time too. Materials all up probably cost about $200 including 1l ltr of paint (laquer) & clear.

Painting sucks (well the prep and cleaning anyway) and anyone else I wouldn't do it for less than $1200. However if you did all the prep and had everything ready to go, for $250 I'd come over with my spray gun and squirt the paint on for you.

[F5 Dave]

. . . Yeah brah, but I dont have a choice as the Bike is only worth 2 Kish so it not wise/sorth spending such an amount of dosh to get the paint done..:)
. . .



Finally a ray of realisation. It just isn't worth painting that bike.


. . . Well not until you're 60 & you hunt the same model down you used to have in your youth & a burst of nostalgia now the kids have moved out of home (except the youngest & he isn't taking the hint despite changing the locks) decide to spend that money to recapture,. . .um, - not sure quite what now, . . .- but it seemed important at the time:lol:.

Save the money & wait till you need tyres or have to replace the warped disc.

[imdying]

Only three options.... yellow with black speed blocks, white with red speed blocks, or Marlboro.

[F5 Dave]

Wash your mouth out with soap. Those are 2 stroke replica colours:nono:

I almost bought a Marlboro TZR back in the day. Purrty.

[GSF]

Finally a ray of realisation. It just isn't worth painting that bike.


. . . Well not until you're 60 & you hunt the same model down you used to have in your youth & a burst of nostalgia now the kids have moved out of home (except the youngest & he isn't taking the hint despite changing the locks) decide to spend that money to recapture,. . .um, - not sure quite what now, . . .- but it seemed important at the time:lol:.

Save the money & wait till you need tyres or have to replace the warped disc.

Pretty much this. From what I could tell from those old archived threads you posted they were painting just a tank for $250, or Crazefox doing tank and side fairing for $800 which is very cheap.

A grand for a whole fully faired cycle is pretty damn cheap. Painting is painstaking hard work to get right and labour is spendy.
IMO there's no point spending that much on a bike you will not be keeping for a long time. Spend it on the good stuff like carb work, or a new disc, etc.
Plus if you stack it you may end up at square one again.

When you get around to selling it it will work in your favour I reckon. I don't know about some people but if I was looking at two old 250 sportbikes to buy and one had $1000 spent on a fancypants paint job and the other had a grand spent on good servicing, new disc, pads, sprockets, battery, maybe a stainless line etc. I would much rather have the not-so-fancy looking one that had good running gear.

[F5 Dave]

Also most painters groan when people say they will do the prep themselves as they will have to redo it to get it usable.

I've had bikes painted & painted some myself (badly), its a lot of work, but a good mate is a top painter, or was. I kept the bike for quite some years & it was a worthwhile basis to paint.

Next bike he is doing for me is a 125 but its a resto 1969 so I think its worth it, or at least I will when I get around to finishing it & I'll be closer to the suggested age ho-ho.

[imdying]

Wash your mouth out with soap. Those are 2 stroke replica colours:nono:

I almost bought a Marlboro TZR back in the day. Purrty.

You must have missed the MotoGP last year.

[F5 Dave]

Kinda lost interest when they started racing Diesels. Used to watch GPs & went to 1/2 doz Ph.Isld races, back when they raced race bikes.

[Big Dave]

matt black it with some spray cans.

I'm with the kid.

[automan6]

i have looked at the bike and i would like to chat to you when i get back from Africa at the end of this month. Mossy1200 sent me a message. We will have to sit down and discuss what you want and what colour schemes....
Graphics and inlays would cost a bit more.... i dont know if you can see the pic of my FZR 400 on my profile.. but have a look... The paintjob on that is worth about $3000 ...
You would want to think about repainting your bike if you font intend on keeping it.... A good paint job would seriously cost you nothing less than $900 for something BASIC....
Hope to chat later. Send me a email on jeanneandyuanita@yahoo.co.nz

Thanks John

[mossy1200]

i have looked at the bike and i would like to chat to ............................
Hope to chat later.
Thanks John


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[imdying]

Fook, that stings a little... the SV in my profile cost me $800 (didn't need to paint the tank or front mudguard though).

[rossirep]

i have looked at the bike and i would like to chat to you when i get back from Africa at the end of this month. Mossy1200 sent me a message. We will have to sit down and discuss what you want and what colour schemes....
Graphics and inlays would cost a bit more.... i dont know if you can see the pic of my FZR 400 on my profile.. but have a look... The paintjob on that is worth about $3000 ...
You would want to think about repainting your bike if you font intend on keeping it.... A good paint job would seriously cost you nothing less than $900 for something BASIC....
Hope to chat later. Send me a email on jeanneandyuanita@yahoo.co.nz

Thanks John

$3000 for that paint job are you for real????

did they paint it with real gold flakes in the paint or something cause thats doesnt look all that flash.. did you paint that yourself or did you pay someone to paint it.??

[@ndy]

As the title say I went for a quote short while ago and the price was 500$ for half faring in the original suzuki color.

I think 1K for the whole bike is a good price... BUT... a car painter in Barrys point road Auckland did my old bike (Kawasaki 400) all in black for 400$ about 5 years ago. I went to him with the parts of the bike all cleaned bogged sended tho. Final result was pretty good. Otherwise cheapest option take bike apart, send, spray matt black.

[scracha]

$3000 for that paint job are you for real????

did they paint it with real gold flakes in the paint or something cause thats doesnt look all that flash.. did you paint that yourself or did you pay someone to paint it.??

No need to be nasty. Perhaps what he's saying is that as it was his own bike, he spent 100's of hours on it lovingly stripping and sanding it prior to applying lots of layers of paint, laquer and final waxing in he hunt for absolute perfection. I think you'll find that most of what you think are stickers on that bike is actually a bloody good paint job.

You pay peanuts, you get ..........?

[pratik8890]

Thank u F5Dave, Big Dave, Automan6, Mossy1200, Imdying, Pistamunno and scracha for ur replies.

@ Automan6 - I'll flick you an email soon if not will get in touch with u when you are back from Africa anyway. Ta

I hope to find a Biker painter on here who could use his/her existing paint to paint my bike and charge me a reasonable price for doing it. ( ideally a painter by profession as he/she might prolly have a supply of paint in bulk which will help to keep the cost down.)

[imdying]

I hope to find a Biker painter on here who could use his/her existing paint to paint my bike and charge me a reasonable price for doing it. ( ideally a painter by profession as he/she might prolly have a supply of paint in bulk which will help to keep the cost down.)Paint isn't the problem, that's the cheap part! It's the labour costs unfortunately. PM CrazyFox.

[rossirep]

No need to be nasty. Perhaps what he's saying is that as it was his own bike, he spent 100's of hours on it lovingly stripping and sanding it prior to applying lots of layers of paint, laquer and final waxing in he hunt for absolute perfection. I think you'll find that most of what you think are stickers on that bike is actually a bloody good paint job.

You pay peanuts, you get ..........?

well i wasnt being nasty. i was asking a question,..??

if i wanted to be nasty i would have said who in their right mind would waste $3000 on a shitty ol 400???

[ducatilover]

well i wasnt being nasty. i was asking a question,..??

if i wanted to be nasty i would have said who in their right mind would waste $3000 on a shitty ol 400???
I would, but I'm not in any sort of "right mind"...

[mossy1200]

No need to be nasty. Perhaps what he's saying is that as it was his own bike, he spent 100's of hours on it lovingly stripping and sanding it prior to applying lots of layers of paint, laquer and final waxing in he hunt for absolute perfection. I think you'll find that most of what you think are stickers on that bike is actually a bloody good paint job.

You pay peanuts, you get ..........?

Yeah Johns bike had no stickers. Even the lettering was airbrushed.Maybe exception was pure sports but that may have been airbrush also. Hes talking 3k at a paintshops rate including prep and alot of layers.

I think you will find the 900 for a basic colour paint without do rims including clear coats and cut and finished is a very good price.
When I gave him my race bike I asked for a cheap job in whatever colour he had. I think I got a bargin with that description.

Make sure with John you tell him you have 3 yellow bikes already and want something with 100% less yellow than the other 3 bikes you own or you might end up with a yellow bike.

[pratik8890]

So here's the latest update, I got a professional paint job from a local paint shop for $500 and the bike looks mint as as you guys can see in the pictures below:

[nzspokes]

Apart from the rim strips it looks the same to me.

[pratik8890]

Apart from the rim strips it looks the same to me.



They are all post paint pictures, I just put the rim stripes two weeks ago and the paint job was done in April 13'.. So yes they will be the same :)

[Asher]

I think he means the new paint job looks the same as the old one

[pratik8890]

I think he means the new paint job looks the same as the old one


Oh my bad, yes I got it done with the same color as the last one but you'll notice a big difference when you view it in person cos tegh previous owner painted it by him self and this ones done through a professional paint shop.

[ducatilover]

Looks good bro, well done.

[pratik8890]

Looks good bro, well done.



Thank you mate, a lil bit of research has paid off !

[baffa]

Hows the orange peel?

Looks like it came out alright, could do with a tiny bit of colour through it though.

[pratik8890]

Hows the orange peel?

Looks like it came out alright, could do with a tiny bit of colour through it though.



Na Spent heaps already to keep it in top condition so dont wanna spend any more dosh on it and besides tomorrow will be the day when all of my efforts will pay off as I have been offered with a decent amount of dosh from a potential buyer so it'll hopefully be sold by COB tomorrow.