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Mental Trousers
10th October 2012, 15:09
Write a complete (ish) list of rules for MotoGP that you would implement in 2014.

Make sure you cover as much as possible (testing, replacement riders, weights, electronics etc)

Here's my go at it


No displacement limit
No engine configuration limit
No limit on the type of engine other than it must run on the control fuel
Gearbox limited to 6 ratios
Single clutch only
Fuel is controlled and supplied and must be no more than 25 litres per race
Minimum weight xxx kg
Each rider starts the year with 9 engines for the season

each rider has his allocation reduced by 1 engine per race win to a minimum of 5 engines for the season
exceeding the number of engines receives a penalty of starting from pit lane once per engine over the limit
engines are deemed sealed once they cross the exit of pit lane

ECU hardware and all sensors are controlled and supplied but software isn't
For ECU software teams have the option of

developing their own
using the supplied software

any changes to the supplied software must be immediately made available for all teams that are using the supplied software (teams developing their own do not have access to this software in any way, shape or form)
the supplied software is not available for use outside MotoGP
teams that move to developing their own software after using the supplied software are not permitted to use any part of the supplied software at all

Teams can have a nominated replacement rider (1 replacement for every 2 riders)
Testing

each rider (including replacement riders) is allocated a set number of tyres for testing and may not use any other tyres
replacement riders can test at any time but must not do more total laps than the regular riders they are nominated to replace have done to that point in time
should a replacement rider be promoted to regular rider a new replacement rider must be nominated

Maximum of 2 bikes per rider


Pretty straight forward except for the software. Essentially that means using a model similar to Open Source Software. I reckon rules like these would leave enough scope for the factories to do their thing but close the gap for the non-Factory teams without having to spend excessive amounts of money.

In theory you could have a 1600cc 2 stroke W6 cylinder. As long as it used no more than the 25 litres per race of course.

Crasherfromwayback
10th October 2012, 15:15
750cc two strokes that must meet the latest and toughest emission laws. No electronic rider aids. Min weight 135kgs. End of story.

Mental Trousers
10th October 2012, 15:20
I'm well aware I could be playing this game by myself :facepalm:

Crasherfromwayback
10th October 2012, 15:29
I'm well aware I could be playing this game by myself :facepalm:

Better than playing with yourself I guess!

DEATH_INC.
10th October 2012, 15:43
Two wheels, no traction control or abs.
25ltrs pump fuel max.
Otherwise open. It'll self limit with tyre life and fuel consumption etc.

Go for it.
Love to see someone try to get a 300hp turbo monster weighing 130kg around a track without killing the tyres...or themselves :laugh:

scott411
10th October 2012, 15:49
25 litre fuel.

no wheel sensors, to stop abs and traction control,

control tyre,

anything else goes,

minimum rider and machine weight combined, (set so midgets cant get an advantage)

Crasherfromwayback
10th October 2012, 15:55
minimum rider and machine weight combined, (set so midgets cant get an advantage)

Do they really though? Maybe in the smaller classes...but I seriously doubt it on the big boys.

Dave-
10th October 2012, 15:57
Released from point A, get to point B before everyone else.

point B will be at least 2000km away.

No ethics, no politics, no limits, no rules, no restarts.

imdying
10th October 2012, 16:15
Sweet, everybody is posting rules that will eliminate everybody but Honda :D

Crasherfromwayback
10th October 2012, 16:21
Sweet, everybody is posting rules that will eliminate everybody but Honda :D

Cept me. Honda don't want to play anymore in the two stroke sandpit.

bogan
10th October 2012, 16:26
Sweet, everybody is posting rules that will eliminate everybody but Honda :D

Here's one for ya then.

Teams must have 3 bikes at every meet, with one auctioned off to another team for use or disassembly after every race if the reserve of $XX is met. All susp and engine settings can be changed before the sale though. No limitations on electronics/tyres, 22L of fuel only.

koba
10th October 2012, 16:40
What about:

Fuel Limited to a control 'pump' type with 25l or so limit.
No rider aids. (Electronic things that help with control, not the bum aids type)
5 Speed gearbox max.

Perhaps some mechanism to limit the engines used in a season.

Everything else open.

Mental Trousers
10th October 2012, 16:52
Cept me. Honda don't want to play anymore in the two stroke sandpit.

Mate, so far everyone has implied that two strokes should be allowed.

Fewer rules the better eh!!

gixerracer
10th October 2012, 17:42
1000cc 4 stroke, 17 inch wheels, 6 speed maximum, No traction control or perhaps a basic spec system same one for all.

The end

Crasherfromwayback
10th October 2012, 17:50
1000cc 4 stroke, 17 inch wheels, 6 speed maximum, No traction control or perhaps a basic spec system same one for all.

The end

Wrong amount of strokes Bro. That sounds all good for Superbikes!

caspernz
10th October 2012, 18:11
Control tyre.
Pump fuel, limited to 25 ltrs per race.
Minimum weight of bike + rider.
No electronic aids such as TC or ABS.
Perhaps a budget limit per bike/rider per year?

Henk
10th October 2012, 18:49
Max capacity limit of something, no other rules.
It is supposed to be a prototype class after all with purpose built exotica. Trying to keep the costs down is never going to work. If the whole thing starts to collapse then smaller manufacturers with smaller budgets would stand a chance if they step up.

Maybe meeting some sort of em mission standard should be in there to make things useful off the race track.

=cJ=
14th October 2012, 17:46
The bike must have two wheels.

The race starts at 10:00 am.