Pathetic...

[Paul in NZ]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/love-sex/7814585/Men-struggle-in-modern-marriages

Seriously? Men are going to take back their lives by paying a bunch of pros to build them a bike at a ridiculous price? Pathetic.... Probably even more pathetic than asking your wife if you can have a toy. Vicki knows I won't bankrupt us too much and she tells me to go get some riding time or project time in as it makes me a better person.... Up side is that when she asks me to fix something its usually half fixed already.

As I said before - she pretends to like motorcycles and I pretend to like gardening - thats how its supposed to work....

That buying a custom bike to fix your sad fucked up life is crap (hey buy one if you like, they look great but they won't fix your life) is typical instant fix syndrome. Go buy a cheapie off TM and build something crap yourself, repeat until you get it right and have fun learning some skills.

You can't buy self respect ffs... What a crap article...

[oneofsix]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/love-sex/7814585/Men-struggle-in-modern-marriages

Seriously? Men are going to take back their lives by paying a bunch of pros to build them a bike at a ridiculous price? Pathetic.... Probably even more pathetic than asking your wife if you can have a toy. Vicki knows I won't bankrupt us too much and she tells me to go get some riding time or project time in as it makes me a better person....

Typical instant fix syndrome. Go buy a cheapie off TM and build something crap yourself, repeat until you get it right and have fun learning some skills. You can't buy self respect ffs... What a crap article...

That really got someone going this morning. I must read it now :laugh: I had just seen the headline and gone WTF before.

The problem is that the men the article talks about spend too much time earning lots but don't get to spend it, at least not without the wife's permission. Because they spend so much time earning they haven't got time to build it themselves and if they did have the time they then get the whole domestic sharing guilt trip laid on them. Funny thing is the more freedom and so called equality woman have got the less happy they have got, according to that article.

[imdying]

Back bone comes as an optional extra apparently... Not that Dare Jennings could give a fuck about you or your problems, he just wants to make more money selling motorcycles.

[Hitcher]

You can't buy self respect ffs... What a crap article...

Well said. Your point is eloquently made.

[HenryDorsetCase]

fairly typical of farifax these days.

it is clearly marked as an opinion piece, I will say that. But yeah. Shit otherwise. I quite like some of their bikes but...

[Drew]

Interesting reactions to the article. Which I thought did a pretty good job of presenting an even sided report, on marital situation this day in age.

I've been in a relationship like is spoken of, you guys judging us clearly have not one fucking clue.

[Paul in NZ]

Interesting reactions to the article. Which I thought did a pretty good job of presenting an even sided report, on marital situation this day in age.

I've been in a relationship like is spoken of, you guys judging us clearly have not one fucking clue.

What I'm saying is buying a premade custom bike aint gunna save anyones problems and its stupid to suggest it will.... You may well feel qualified to argue the opposite but somehow I think you would only be trolling...

So - by your standards only an average troll but I'm not sure its us that come across as being short of clues or judging anyone....

[Katman]

Clearly, far too many people don't put enough thought into who they shack themselves up with.

Males and females.

[Drew]

What I'm saying is buying a premade custom bike aint gunna save anyones problems and its stupid to suggest it will.... You may well feel qualified to argue the opposite but somehow I think you would only be trolling...

So - by your standards only an average troll but I'm not sure its us that come across as being short of clues or judging anyone....Did you read the whole article? That was a tiny piece of it, and used as an exams that men can't make spending decisions like they once did.

I feel qualified to say that I can relate, to the feeling of men described. That is all. I have considered my reasons for being where I was, and imagine it is quite a prolific sentiment in others.


Clearly, far too many people don't put enough thought into who they shack themselves up with.

Males and females.That's really helpful, but wrong.

Peoples attitudes change with situation. It cannot be foretold what someone will be like after kids/marriage/house purchase/ or any number of other life changing decisions.

Original statement stands. Not one fuckin clue.

[turtleman]

Interesting reactions to the article. Which I thought did a pretty good job of presenting an even sided report, on marital situation this day in age.

I've been in a relationship like is spoken of, you guys judging us clearly have not one fucking clue.

I couldn't agree more, Drew.
I guess you don't realise it until it's too late.

Not that I agree entirely with the article in question, but there are a lot of statements in there that are uncannily familiar ...

[Paul in NZ]

Did you read the whole article? That was a tiny piece of it, and used as an exams that men can't make spending decisions like they once did.

Yes I read the whole thing and my lips didn't even move once. I'm only interested in the motorcycle part of it 'cos this is a motorcycle site.... If I needed therapy because I lost my man mojo I don't think this is the place for it... Unless I'm missing something?

[Str8 Jacket]

Clearly, far too many people don't put enough thought into who they shack themselves up with.

Males and females.

Yep, I would agree with that......

[Fatjim]

Gonna agree with Drew here except for the praise for the article. I thought is was rubbish, flicked all round the place and used Statistics as if they mean something.

i know a lot of guys like this:

They are not appreciated for the contribution they make.
They are expected to work 50-60 hours a week, then the missus needs time out whenever they aren't working.
Getting their own time to do what they want out of the family is met with sneers, sarcasm and guilty accusations.
They get maligned with the kids, and the missus rarely backs him up on discipline.

Sure, not every marriage is like this, and many who aren't in these kinds of relationships will find it hard to believe, but there are heaps of marriages like this. Who's to blame? I don't know. I guess both stop putting each other first.

[Fatjim]

Yep, I would agree with that......

Sorry, I cry bullshit! There is no other species in this world than the female human who is so adept at hiding their secret personality.

[oneofsix]

The interesting stat in the article was the one on time. We here a lot about men not sharing the domestic chores implying they take the excess time doing their thing but the stats in the article instead said they spend less time doing the chores because they spend it at work.

The guys seem to wish they could spend time with their kids in the garage building their own bike but realise they are more likely to be allowed to spend money on a bike that she thinks she will look good on the back of.

As far as using your brain when choosing a mat i thought this was the one time you were allow to think with your crotch :lol:

[Str8 Jacket]

Sorry, I cry bullshit! There is no other species in this world than the female human who is so adept at hiding their secret personality.

In your opinion.

I have been bitten and almost married a very "closet-psycho" guy. It aint just women, in fact humans are all capable of it.

So yeah, I agree with Katman.

[Drew]

Yes I read the whole thing and my lips didn't even move once. I'm only interested in the motorcycle part of it 'cos this is a motorcycle site.... If I needed therapy because I lost my man mojo I don't think this is the place for it... Unless I'm missing something?
You're missing my point, clearly.

As you were.

[Paul in NZ]

Sweet mother of christ....

Of course there are people who are just like the ones in the article... They have always existed.. There are also people who work more hours than that an ARE appreciated just like there are men who go home from the pub after not working a lick and beat the shit out of their unappreciated wives... Do we need an opinion piece to tell us this? They have always existed its hardly new... OR more prevalent.

I'd suggest its vastly more common for both partners to work and heavily rely on each other just to scrape by as the number of jobs that can pay for a flash house and trophy wife and family are very few and far between. My experience is that the stress of keeping your head above water for most couples is the leading form of stress NOT the minority of men who are successful enough to earn heaps but 'unappreciated' at home. Again experience would tell me its far more likely super earner hubby does what he fuckin wants and is 'unappreciated' because he is an A grade arsehole. Real A type personality.

I'd also suggest that the people who tell mr dues that they need to consult with the wife and never return are actually driving home laughing their arse off in the car at the prices and have just decided to upgrade the boat instead....

[Paul in NZ]

You're missing my point, clearly.

As you were.

No wonder you were unappreciated - you should work on your communication? :lol:

Come on Drew - this has got to be worth a decent argument, don't give up yet... :2thumbsup

[Katman]

Sorry, I cry bullshit!

Yeah, you usually do.

[Drew]

No wonder you were unappreciated - you should work on your communication? :lol:

Come on Drew - this has got to be worth a decent argument, don't give up yet... :2thumbsup

Even though I can see the troll, for some reason I still want to walk over the bridge.

Too hard from the phone though. Maybe later if I remeber.

[Fatjim]

Yeah, you usually do.


In your opinion.

I have been bitten and almost married a very "closet-psycho" guy. It aint just women, in fact humans are all capable of it.

So yeah, I agree with Katman.

I had a freind who married a closet-pshyco years ago, well it was closet to me. I didn't find out till the physco killed himself.

Didn't say it was just women, I just said they were the best! Why can't you women be happy when you are the best at something!!!!!

[ducatilover]

People are stupid.
It's that simple. When men are not getting the fun, special treatment they want, articles/crap like this pops up.
People do not think enough, regardless of what anyone will say, we're whimsical pieces of self righteous shit

Except me, I'm great.
And there's a reason why marriage fails so much now, people are stupid and don't think.

[Fatjim]

Maybe we're just a bit simplistic, and unwilling to look at the whole picture?

[Paul in NZ]

Maybe we're just a bit simplistic, and unwilling to look at the whole picture?

Perhaps some of us are just happier with smaller pictures Jim..... We don't need to live in high def widescreen....

[Stirts]

Perhaps some of us are just happier with smaller pictures Jim.....

Of course, but you must remember ...

Tools, Internet options, Clear history, Delete files, Delete cookies.

[Banditbandit]

As far as using your brain when choosing a mat i thought this was the one time you were allow to think with your crotch :lol:

Yeah - you're allowed to think with your crutch when picking a mate ... but that doesn't always work out ... crutches make some pretty BAD decisions ... I've fucked up (excuse the intended joke) a couple of times doing that - one was great in bed but her fucking mouth (speaking voice) drove me nuts after a few weeks - so down the road she went .. and the other (also very good in bed) said "When we get married you'll have to sell the bike" - so down the road she went too ...

Interestingly the woman I am now married to said I could not buy the third bike I wanted (Can't afford it - can't afford the insurance, can't afford the registration .. you all know the story) but when I suggested that if I sold my current boat for $5,000 together with the $5,000 I would spend on the third bike and buy a $10,000 boat I might have something I would use more often than a third bike - she seemed happy with that idea ...

And she neither rides with me, nor comes fishing with me ...

Women are just plain strange sometimes. (So, anyway, we wasted the $5,000 on necessary shit - so now I'm just waiting for that money to come back - then its sell the boat and buy a better one ... )

[Usarka]

What a crap article...

It's not an article.

Stuff allow any moron with an opinion to write these "opinion" pieces.

[Paul in NZ]

It's not an article.

Stuff allow any moron with an opinion to write these "opinion" pieces.

So there is hope for me yet?

[Usarka]

So there is hope for me yet?

I was going to say - "just like KB"! :D

[Bassmatt]

As far as using your brain when choosing a mat i thought this was the one time you were allow to think with your crotch :lol:

That's the attitiude :headbang:

[Road kill]

It's in womens nature to take.

It's in mens nature to provide.

Both these things are good until the balance gets fucked up.

Then you get weak men and manipulative women,,,extremes of course but it happens more often today due to the consumer driven place society has become.

Me,,I like watching my wife mow the laws and I ride or go fishing whenever I like.

She has her stuff,,horses and her "girl friends",,but there is a balance there and neither of us need the others permission to go about our usual R&R pass times.

Life is good if you know your place,,,it's shit if you need to be told.

[tigertim20]

Interesting reactions to the article. Which I thought did a pretty good job of presenting an even sided report, on marital situation this day in age.

I've been in a relationship like is spoken of, you guys judging us clearly have not one fucking clue.

maybe those who are 'judging you' out more thought into who they wanted to be with?

that article sounds like a male-menopause whinge thread. harden the fuck up.

[scumdog]

I've been in a relationship like is spoken of, you guys judging us clearly have not one fucking clue.

Meh, I had one of them relashunships once too - a new doris fixed that right up !:2thumbsup

The down-side is that she genuinely loves motorbikes, hot-rods and all manner of petrol-head shit - if you can call all that a 'downside'.

Doesn't do guns though - but likes cooking the tucker they provide.

[Drew]

maybe those who are 'judging you' out more thought into who they wanted to be with?

that article sounds like a male-menopause whinge thread. harden the fuck up.Or, perhaps they don't have one clue as to how I or others got into the situation to begin with.

Claim as much foresight as you bloody like, you are kidding yourself if you think it's anything more than incredibly good luck to hook onto a like minded, (or tolerably so) partner for the long term.

If you, or anyone else has captured your life partner on your first attempt and are happy, I will consider any argument you have. All others, you are not qualified.


As you were:tugger:

[mossy1200]

Man up

I buy what ever I want if I have my wifes permission.
If I dont think ill get her permission ill buy it first and own up after.

Option 2 is easier. I can take a hit if I need too. She doesnt scare me much.:bash:

[Road kill]

Or, perhaps they don't have one clue as to how I or others got into the situation to begin with.

Claim as much foresight as you bloody like, you are kidding yourself if you think it's anything more than incredibly good luck to hook onto a like minded, (or tolerably so) partner for the long term.

If you, or anyone else has captured your life partner on your first attempt and are happy, I will consider any argument you have. All others, you are not qualified.


As you were:tugger:

"Pussy whipped"

Too easy......:tugger:yourself

[Crasherfromwayback]

Fuck me. I've been in the industry for so long...that I've heard "she won't let me have/get/keep a motorcycle", that it's become the std excuse for some cunt that's also lying to you as well as not having any fucking balls.

Get some fucking balls you raving fucking pooftas.

Do you seriously think she's going to have any respect for you if you roll over like a fucking gay poodle?

Fuck.

[Drew]

Fuck me. I've been in the industry for so long...that I've heard "she won't let me have/get/keep a motorcycle", that it's become the std excuse for some cunt that's also lying to you as well as not having any fucking balls.

Get some fucking balls you raving fucking pooftas.

Do you seriously think she's going to have any respect for you if you roll over like a fucking gay poodle?

Fuck.



Best post yet. Would be a 10/10 if you'd used "fuck" more. You get 9/10 for it as it stands.

[R-Soul]

If you, or anyone else has CAPTURED your life partner on your first attempt and are happy, I will consider any argument you have. All others, you are not qualified.


I think I am starting to see your problem...

Nah just kidding - even the nicest daisy doolitles can turn into psycho doris donothings....

[Crasherfromwayback]

Best post yet. Would be a 10/10 if you'd used "fuck" more. You get 9/10 for it as it stands.

Here come the missing fucks. I had one fucking customer...he purchased a bike because his Missus ran away with a guy that had one. He'd never had the balls to ride one whilst married to her...even though he did as a yoof. His previous wife did not allow it. But he was so out of touch...that he crashed the bike several times...freaked, and sold it back to us and took a bath financially. She's still with the 'other guy'...and doing many happy miles together on the bike. He should have told his first wife to go fuck herself.

Fucking softcock.

[Stirts]

Get some fucking balls you raving fucking pooftas.

Do you seriously think she's going to have any respect for you if you roll over like a fucking gay poodle?

Fuck.

Fuck you, you fucken fuck, you are so fucken right!!

[Drew]

Here come the missing fucks. I had one fucking customer...he purchased a bike because his Missus ran away with a guy that had one. He'd never had the balls to ride one whilst married to her...even though he did as a yoof. His previous wife did not allow it. But he was so out of touch...that he crashed the bike several times...freaked, and sold it back to us and took a bath financially. She's still with the 'other guy'...and doing many happy miles together on the bike. He should have told his first wife to go fuck herself.

Fucking softcock.

His situation differs from mine. I was where I was out of guilt mostly, the dude you use as an example really does seem to need to "sack up".

[Big Dave]

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"Irreperable" Ha!<tenchars></tenchars>

[ducatilover]

Fuck me. I've been in the industry for so long...that I've heard "she won't let me have/get/keep a motorcycle", that it's become the std excuse for some cunt that's also lying to you as well as not having any fucking balls.

Get some fucking balls you raving fucking pooftas.

Do you seriously think she's going to have any respect for you if you roll over like a fucking gay poodle?

Fuck.
:2thumbsup Fuck, mate.

[Drew]

:2thumbsup Fuck, mate.Fuck you too.

[98tls]

:clap:This thread is a fucking hoot,made more so as its posted on a motorcycle forum.Women and motorcycles have always had lots in common though much more these days it seems though the theme for both since time began is much the same ie cunts climb aboard with no ability whatsoever to handle either.

[Crasherfromwayback]

:2thumbsup Fuck, mate.

Cunt. :baby:

[ducatilover]

Cunt. :baby:
Puller :tugger:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Puller :tugger:


Nice combo!

[Oblivion]

Relationships are about equal amounts of give and take. If she doesn't want you ride bikes, well shes out of luck. She can concede that you don't want to give up riding. And instead, she wants you to start dancing with her on the weekends. Fair exchange. You keep what you want, and she is happy with what she wants. Concessions. There might be an arguement here and there about the concession being too little, but its healthy. You can't survive a realtionship by being a yes man.

And as this thread doesn't have enough already,

Fuck.

[ducatilover]

Nice combo!
That's what she said! :spanking:

[munster]

My wife (22 years next April) found & bought my bike on Trademe while I was away on a work course. She knew what I was looking for.

I love her very much and she's a great first wife.

[oneofsix]

My wife (22 years next April) found & bought my bike on Trademe while I was away on a work course. She knew what I was looking for.

I love her very much and she's a great first wife.

Wish you as much luck with the second then :killingme

[Grubber]

Interesting reactions to the article. Which I thought did a pretty good job of presenting an even sided report, on marital situation this day in age.

I've been in a relationship like is spoken of, you guys judging us clearly have not one fucking clue.

I agree! Been there done that too!
The fairy tale begins perfectly and ends like a nightmare. The person you thought you knew ends up being someone completely different under household pressures.
The strangle hold begins and the trick is to get out before you can no longer breath.

[Paul in NZ]

Argh - bugger it... You queer pricks are drifting off course...

When we were first married and had a young family there was naff all budget for bikes so it was a $75 TS250 that came in 3 boxes that was ride to work transport (loved that bike). Thats different. Reasonable trade offs are acceptable but ultimatums from either side are not. I have no respect that makes his family suffer because he demands the latest toys motorcycle... Its just the other side of the coin.

Look its simple. With reference to the original piece. If you are a money chasing corporate ho working 70 hours a week and supporting/married to an up her self rich bitch who won't allow you to own a bike or do anything else - then guess what, buying a bike or worse a bike someone else has expensively customized for you won't make you cool or more manly - it will make you an even sadder fuck than you already are...

[Stirts]

then guess what, buying a bike or worse a bike someone else has expensively customized for you won't make you cool or more manly - it will make you an even sadder fuck than you already are...

However, if said sad fuck who is married to an up her self rich bitch who won't allow him to own a bike or do anything else, rides away into the sunset on his expensively customized motorcycle, then I image it would make him way fucken cool and manly!

[oneofsix]

Argh - bugger it... You queer pricks are drifting off course...


:gob: on KB? no shit :lol:



When we were first married and had a young family there was naff all budget for bikes so it was a $75 TS250 that came in 3 boxes that was ride to work transport (loved that bike). Thats different. Reasonable trade offs are acceptable but ultimatums from either side are not. I have no respect that makes his family suffer because he demands the latest toys motorcycle... Its just the other side of the coin.

Look its simple. With reference to the original piece. If you are a money chasing corporate ho working 70 hours a week and supporting/married to an up her self rich bitch who won't allow you to own a bike or do anything else - then guess what, buying a bike or worse a bike someone else has expensively customized for you won't make you cool or more manly - it will make you an even sadder fuck than you already are...

Correct but the rest of the article is a truism for modern male, works as many hours as his Mrs but gets bitched at for not doing his share of the domestic shit. No time to his self unless she wants to get rid of him and even then it is with strict conditions. Probably only looking at the Deux Machinica bikes because it she thinks they might suit her image, not that she will let him get one, he'll end up with the Mid-Life Crisis BMW convertable.
Makes that sick Lyndale Girls night out ad look believable.

[Paul in NZ]

Oh there are some real ball breakers out there for sure and some of them were born that way but more are made by needy little boys pretending to be men. Half the men I've met that bitch about this shit have got themselves to blame... You get married you have kids then it requires some serious commitment and yeah - you will need to make compromises....

[oneofsix]

Agreed but I don't think this opinion piece was about the ball breakers. They have always been there and so have the male slackers. I think this is about how society has changed from the woman generally being under valued to about a mid-point in the pendulum swing, no this opinion was more like the males now have the worst of it, and that is pushing it a bit.

[James Deuce]

I read the whinging with an air of disbelief. They've married their Mums! Or at least a very stern Aunty. I haven't got a "new" bike because my wife let me or I threw a paddy. I have one because we can pay for it from current budget, we have a car that accommodates the rest of the family, and I have the occasional need to be at home early so my wife can be at work on time and the kids aren't left alone. In a couple of years, #1 son will take over the afternoon childcare role, but in the meantime we need to be "responsible parents".

I've acquired a simple bike that will do anything, that I can largely service myself. It has a centre stand so I can take the back wheel out to get a tyre replaced. I also have friends who help with the two man jobs without complaining any more than is necessary (eh Paul). I buy my bits an pieces for the least amount I can, mostly from locally based suppliers, but sometimes from an overseas supplier. It's not that I can't afford bike shop prices, It's just that I can make the money I save work for me in other ways. I'm really sorry if that ticks anyone off.

Back to the lads in the OP article. Umm, you all sound like the sort of people who would be better off in Lance Armstrong replica lycra with a $20k treadly instead of getting involved in my grubby hobby. Oh, and TRY to redefine the parameters of your spousal relationship, because YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG!

[Voltaire]

And I thought the DB 'wine ' add was a joke...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whxGbHbY2bY

I didn't realise Blokedom was in such a bad way....

[wysper]

Fuck me. I've been in the industry for so long...that I've heard "she won't let me have/get/keep a motorcycle",

To be fair, I have used that excuse when I just want the sales person to shut up for a sec and let me think. If they then play the 'well aren't you whipped card' they have just lost that sale and any future sale. My wife does the same.

I don't think it is weak chatting to your wife/partner/husband/significant other/sheep about a big purchase. I would expect the same from her before she made a big purchase. My wife and I have been together 18 years and we are PARTNERS. So we discuss shit like that. Little shit, not so much, don't really care, but if it is more than our weekly income, touching base with each other is just a bloody good idea.

[Banditbandit]

I read the whinging with an air of disbelief. They've married their Mums! Or at least a very stern Aunty.

Bwhahahaha .. too true !!!!

[skippa1]

To be fair, I have used that excuse when I just want the sales person to shut up for a sec and let me think. If they then play the 'well aren't you whipped card' they have just lost that sale and any future sale. My wife does the same.

I don't think it is weak chatting to your wife/partner/husband/significant other/sheep about a big purchase. I would expect the same from her before she made a big purchase. My wife and I have been together 18 years and we are PARTNERS. So we discuss shit like that. Little shit, not so much, don't really care, but if it is more than our weekly income, touching base with each other is just a bloody good idea.

Im with you. My wife and I share the decision making and consequences. What I earn is ours, what she earns is ours, we have a joint pool of money to share and spend. If we are going to make a big purchase that commits us to finance or eats a significant chunk of savings or disposable income, then we discuss it. Why wouldnt you? We have been together 25 years and it has worked for us.
We have walked away from many deals simply because the sales person wont give us space to talk about the pros and cons in private.

[Crasherfromwayback]

To be fair, I have used that excuse when I just want the sales person to shut up for a sec and let me think. If they then play the 'well aren't you whipped card' they have just lost that sale and any future sale. My wife does the same.

I don't think it is weak chatting to your wife/partner/husband/significant other/sheep about a big purchase. I would expect the same from her before she made a big purchase. My wife and I have been together 18 years and we are PARTNERS. So we discuss shit like that. Little shit, not so much, don't really care, but if it is more than our weekly income, touching base with each other is just a bloody good idea.

I've got no problem with that at all. But being told you're not allowed one I do have a problem with.

[imdying]

I don't think it is weak chatting to your wife/partner/husband/significant other/sheep about a big purchase. I would expect the same from her before she made a big purchase. My wife and I have been together 18 years and we are PARTNERS. So we discuss shit like that. Little shit, not so much, don't really care, but if it is more than our weekly income, touching base with each other is just a bloody good idea.That's the way we roll too... I don't need to know if she's buying a new microware, and she doesn't need to know if the track bike needs a Brembo RCS master cylinder... but if I want a new billet crankshaft, or she wants a 69" flat screen TV, then we at least need to know we're not buying them both in the same pay period. Or one of us needs to move some savings to a working account. Or whatever.

[ducatilover]

I reckon those chaps in the article need to man up and punch their wives.
They like that sort of thing.

[wysper]

I've got no problem with that at all. But being told you're not allowed one I do have a problem with.

Agreed. +10 bloody chars (should have said fuck a few times I guess)

[Bassmatt]

I've got no problem with that at all. But being told you're not allowed one I do have a problem with.

I have been told "NO. You can't have that" by the wife a few times.
Then i'm like "fuck you bitch, I work hard , never buy myself fuck all, blah blah blah, " at which point she will say " well I don't think you should because of this, this and this"
She is usually correct. :weep:

[oneofsix]

I have been told "NO. You can't have that" by the wife a few times.
Then i'm like "fuck you bitch, I work hard , never buy myself fuck all, blah blah blah, " at which point she will say " well I don't think you should because of this, this and this"
She is usually correct. :weep:

:laugh: don't you just hate that. It hurts more that she is right. :rolleyes:

[Banditbandit]

I have been told "NO. You can't have that" by the wife a few times.
Then i'm like "fuck you bitch, I work hard , never buy myself fuck all, blah blah blah, " at which point she will say " well I don't think you should because of this, this and this"
She is usually correct. :weep:

Yeah ... that's usually the case ... and as oneofsix says .. don't ya just hate it ...

Yeah .. what I hate is not that they are right ... but the way they say it ... if they are right, then reasonable discussion helps .. yelling NO does not!!!

[bluebird]

I know my wife found that my having a nice ride made me an easier dog to keep on the porch, so that was easy, and yes I built a couple of bikes in the garage with my son (for him) I have no need for customized bikes, I have an M109, nuf said. Any way the Deus bikes are broomsticks.

[98tls]

I know my wife found that my having a nice ride made me an easier dog to keep on the porch, so that was easy, and yes I built a couple of bikes in the garage with my son (for him) I have no need for customized bikes, I have an M109, nuf said. Any way the Deus bikes are broomsticks.

Whats having a M109 got to do with customized bikes?

[98tls]

:laugh: don't you just hate that. It hurts more that she is right. :rolleyes:
Eh?There never right,its making them see that is the trick.

[imdying]

Whats having a M109 got to do with customized bikes?Haven't you heard? Mass produced wanna-customs are the next big thing yo :headbang:

[Drew]

I read the whinging with an air of disbelief. They've married their Mums! Or at least a very stern Aunty. I haven't got a "new" bike because my wife let me or I threw a paddy. I have one because we can pay for it from current budget, we have a car that accommodates the rest of the family, and I have the occasional need to be at home early so my wife can be at work on time and the kids aren't left alone. In a couple of years, #1 son will take over the afternoon childcare role, but in the meantime we need to be "responsible parents".

I've acquired a simple bike that will do anything, that I can largely service myself. It has a centre stand so I can take the back wheel out to get a tyre replaced. I also have friends who help with the two man jobs without complaining any more than is necessary (eh Paul). I buy my bits an pieces for the least amount I can, mostly from locally based suppliers, but sometimes from an overseas supplier. It's not that I can't afford bike shop prices, It's just that I can make the money I save work for me in other ways. I'm really sorry if that ticks anyone off.

Back to the lads in the OP article. Umm, you all sound like the sort of people who would be better off in Lance Armstrong replica lycra with a $20k treadly instead of getting involved in my grubby hobby. Oh, and TRY to redefine the parameters of your spousal relationship, because YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG!Oh the fucking humanity!


I've got no problem with that at all. But being told you're not allowed one I do have a problem with.Why? If someone is dumb enough to admit he's whipped, then more fuckin power to him.

Funny thing. Only time I've been whipped, I ticked up two bikes through scooter center. Paid for them both too, tell Linda to suck my sweaty ball sack!


I have been told "NO. You can't have that" by the wife a few times.
Then i'm like "fuck you bitch, I work hard , never buy myself fuck all, blah blah blah, " at which point she will say " well I don't think you should because of this, this and this"
She is usually correct. :weep:


:laugh: don't you just hate that. It hurts more that she is right. :rolleyes:
Different thing to what I thought the article was about...And all too fuckn familiar!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Why? If someone is dumb enough to admit he's whipped, then more fuckin power to him.
!

Really? Spell irony for me.

[ducatilover]

Haven't you heard? Mass produced wanna-customs are the next big thing yo :headbang:
Like them cool ones with flames!

More fucks need to be said.

[RDJ]

Im with you. My wife and I share the decision making and consequences. What I earn is ours, what she earns is ours, we have a joint pool of money to share and spend. If we are going to make a big purchase that commits us to finance or eats a significant chunk of savings or disposable income, then we discuss it. Why wouldnt you? We have been together 25 years and it has worked for us.
We have walked away from many deals simply because the sales person wont give us space to talk about the pros and cons in private.

What you said. That is a partnership.

[dipshit]

I see a similar thing in hi-fi circles. Guys that have $50K or more dropped into hi-fi systems yet have them terribly placed (acoustically) in the room due to the 'wife factor'. "The speakers can only go over there"... "no they can't come too far out into the room"... "I want a coffee table in the middle of the room" etc etc.

Sure, you will have pussy on tap... but is it really worth it?

I myself am happily single and love the freedom to do what I want. I became disillusioned with the whole 'society expects you to get married and a mortgage and raise a family' thing once when watching the Money Man on TV. They were at one guy's house and he was into road cycling. He would dress up like a tube of toothpaste and compete in local competition rides such. But the Money Man worked out that he could save $900 a year if he gave up cycling and sold the bike as he wouldn't need to buy tyres and chains etc. That could be money better spent on doing up the nursery room.

WTF!!! :wacko:

So the guy needed to give up one of the cheapest hobbies around... and one that would keep him fit and put quality years on his life... just so he could put new wallpaper in the fucking nursery...!?!? To me that is so fucked up beyond belief. Now the guy's major highlight of the week will be to watch the fucking all blacks play some other team of jumped up homos on TV at the weekend.

You can keep that domesticated shit.

[actungbaby]

Did you read the whole article? That was a tiny piece of it, and used as an exams that men can't make spending decisions like they once did.

I feel qualified to say that I can relate, to the feeling of men described. That is all. I have considered my reasons for being where I was, and imagine it is quite a prolific sentiment in others.

That's really helpful, but wrong.

Peoples attitudes change with situation. It cannot be foretold what someone will be like after kids/marriage/house purchase/ or any number of other life changing decisions.

Original statement stands. Not one fuckin clue.

its intresting dude isint it , its like looking back you think wtf was i thinking its almost like you talk

yourself into being happy, not untill you meet somone thats accepts you for you , that u think

bloody hell oher person was really not for me

[actungbaby]

Or, perhaps they don't have one clue as to how I or others got into the situation to begin with.

Claim as much foresight as you bloody like, you are kidding yourself if you think it's anything more than incredibly good luck to hook onto a like minded, (or tolerably so) partner for the long term.

If you, or anyone else has captured your life partner on your first attempt and are happy, I will consider any argument you have. All others, you are not qualified.


As you were:tugger:

+1 dude yes how do you know what u want till you know what u do not want.

its called life exp buddy tough though sometimes going trough it and holding it toghter

Then you can say hay am strong person anyone can say am strong if you never made mistakes or

Done anything than look after yourself

[Banditbandit]

Sure, you will have pussy on tap... but is it really worth it?



Mate - that really depends on the pussy - and if you have to ask ... then you have not yet experienced pussy that is worth it ...


You can keep that domesticated shit.

And find the right woman with the right pussy then you don't need to be domesticated either ...

[98tls]

The answer to all this unhappiness is simple,just explain (talk real slow so she gets it) that until you get a new bike then she aint getting your dick in her mouth,we all of us have needs.

[scumdog]

Mate - that really depends on the pussy - and if you have to ask ... then you have not yet experienced pussy that is worth it ...

And find the right woman with the right pussy then you don't need to be domesticated either ...

Nicely put...:niceone:

[MD]

....he could save $900 a year if he gave up cycling and sold the bike as he wouldn't need to buy tyres and chains etc. That could be money better spent on doing up the nursery room.

WTF!!! :wacko:

So the guy needed to give up one of the cheapest hobbies around... and one that would keep him fit and put quality years on his life... just so he could put new wallpaper in the fucking nursery...!?!? To me that is so fucked up beyond belief. Now the guy's major highlight of the week will be to watch the fucking all blacks play some other team of jumped up homos on TV at the weekend.

You can keep that domesticated shit.

I was going to agree with you but the Missus told me I had to ask you what colour did he do the nursery in? Soft texture wallpaper? Patterned or plain and did it all flow so nice with the cot and soft toys.

[tbs]

I was going to agree with you but the Missus told me I had to ask you what colour did he do the nursery in? Soft texture wallpaper? Patterned or plain and did it all flow so nice with the cot and soft toys.

I don't care who you are , that's funny right there.

[Big Dave]

Rubbish.
Deus do some very nice bikes.
You pay the premium for Dave Anderson to build a bike.
He's one of the best.
Their Big-block flat tracker is mint.

[Paul in NZ]

Rubbish.
Deus do some very nice bikes.
You pay the premium for Dave Anderson to build a bike.
He's one of the best.
Their Big-block flat tracker is mint.

Um - thats not the point.....

[Big Dave]

Um - thats not the point.....

Yeah it is. The rest is just targeted bullshit.

[Paul in NZ]

No its not...

If you are a sad fuck without a bike you will be a sad fuck with a bike if you buy one... This isnt about the bike and thinking a possession will make a difference is the issue...

If men want to be able to operate well withing a modern relationship then they still have to do it by being men. Once they have that bit sorted then a bike might be OK...

Ah stuff this crap - I'm wasting time with this shit. You find your man juice at the bike shop Dave and I'll go build my own, I suspect I'm made of different stuff...

[Big Dave]

Ah stuff this crap - I'm wasting time with this shit.

Bingo. Refer targeted.

I have no need to obtain man-juice. I'm a major manufacturer. :-)


PS - In Australian parlance it's called 'Putting a flea in your ear'. Never heard the expression in NZ?

[GrayWolf]

I have been reading this thread and enjoying it... To see the obvious Manderthals beating the 'Testosterone drum' vs the Metroboys.

Personally I dont give a rats anus about the stuff in the OP's post. You do what works for the individual couple. if 'she' wants to control what he does/has and is allowed to? Only person to blame is 'him' for 'selecting' her in the first place... Conversely if the 'major man juice producers' have to beat the 'man drum' so rigorously? You have to wonder what inadequacies they are trying to conceal.

[Stirts]

Bingo. Refer targeted.

I have no need to obtain man-juice. I'm a major manufacturer. :-)

And hey, if any man should run out of man-juice, there is always Butters Creamy Goo!

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[Big Dave]

Will it grow back hair? As in hair on your back - I heard chics dig that.

[Stirts]

Will it grow back hair? As in hair on your back - I heard chics dig that.

If it does, I don't know a chick in the world that would want to have a hairy back though. :shifty:

[Banditbandit]

Uummm ... a goo that promotes Comradery? I'm a little suspect about that one ... sounds totally Gay ...

[Paul in NZ]

Uummm ... a goo that promotes Comradery? I'm a little suspect about that one ... sounds totally Gay ...

Oh - is that what he means? I thought it was a Gao that promotes communisim

[Big Dave]

If it does, I don't know a chick in the world that would want to have a hairy back though. :shifty:

I see what you did there.

You don't know the right chics. She could shave Dale Jnr's number into it and watch NASCAR topless.

[tristania]

This situation repeats itself if you reverse the genders also.
I owned a motorcycle before I got married. Somewhere along the lines he was allowed to ride it, I wasn't.
I'm now divorced and never been happier, out motorcycling on my own.

To me, these issues are all about power and control, it's just weighing up if it's worth being in a relationship that itsn't about compromise..

[Crasherfromwayback]

To me, these issues are all about power and control, it's just weighing up if it's worth being in a relationship that itsn't about compromise..

In a nutshell.

[caspernz]

I have been reading this thread and enjoying it... To see the obvious Manderthals beating the 'Testosterone drum' vs the Metroboys.

Personally I dont give a rats anus about the stuff in the OP's post. You do what works for the individual couple. if 'she' wants to control what he does/has and is allowed to? Only person to blame is 'him' for 'selecting' her in the first place... Conversely if the 'major man juice producers' have to beat the 'man drum' so rigorously? You have to wonder what inadequacies they are trying to conceal.

Ah yes, my thinking went along similar lines...:facepalm:

[GDOBSSOR]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/love-sex/7814585/Men-struggle-in-modern-marriages

Seriously? Men are going to take back their lives by paying a bunch of pros to build them a bike at a ridiculous price? Pathetic.... Probably even more pathetic than asking your wife if you can have a toy. Vicki knows I won't bankrupt us too much and she tells me to go get some riding time or project time in as it makes me a better person.... Up side is that when she asks me to fix something its usually half fixed already.



As a woman who is starting to learn to ride and would love to work on bikes too, I think it's sad that there seems to be a lack of communication in these marriages and thought only for oneself, eg, the wife is only thinking of how much time she gets to spend with the kids, the husband is thinking of the motorbike he wants to buy without the thought as to whether the family can really afford it. I'm not saying that if a man (or woman) works hard, they don't deserve a treat. But, if they have a family, and it's something that's going to cost a lot, perhaps some consideration may need to be given to the wife on that front (although I can't STAND people who play the 'not getting one, it's too dangerous' card).

As for his bed being the loneliest place in the world - again, lack of communication. And that's not entirely his fault, either.
It makes me think of something my last serious partner said. "You want to help me? Spend more time with me!"
Bickering, paying bills, watching tv and sheperding kids does not count as quality couple time.

[mossy1200]

I mentioned to my wife I might like a trials bike.

She said I might like a new wife also.

Wanted Trails bike and replacement wife.

Joking

If I find a trials bike ill tell her once its in the garage.

[Ocean1]

I mentioned to my wife I might like a trials bike.

She said I might like a new wife also.

What? Jeez mate, dirt bikes are easy, much cheaper, safer etc etc.

Did you do the "make a better man for you darling" thing?

[mossy1200]

What? Jeez mate, dirt bikes are easy, much cheaper, safer etc etc.

Did you do the "make a better man for you darling" thing?

Im the boss of the house when shes not at home.

Im kind of lucky. I think in the last 10 years I have had had 15 bikes plus projects.
ZX14R has been approved for the day after we buy a house also.

She does have 140 pairs of shoes and alot of jewellry so I dont get all the money. Also I dont drink or spend much on smaller items.

[GrayWolf]

Im the boss of the house when shes not at home........................

She does have 140 pairs of shoes and alot of jewellry so I dont get all the money. Also I dont drink or spend much on smaller items.

No Mossy, we can see why you don't drink much, it's all being spent on shoes :laugh: Take it the new house will have a 'girls' walk in wardrobe, and just up the road from the shoe store?

[mossy1200]

No Mossy, we can see why you don't drink much, it's all being spent on shoes :laugh: Take it the new house will have a 'girls' walk in wardrobe, and just up the road from the shoe store?


We are about to put a tender in on one that has a walk in large enough to be a double nursery.

Its not close to shoe shops but she has calculated the bus sections,times and routes to every shoe shop in the Region.

Its got double garage plus off st parking and room to build another 1 1/2 garage also. Im sorted. Is the rule of thumb 1 bike for every 10 pairs of shoes?

[carver]

you dumb cunts all miss the point, Shack up with another guy and your all good

[Ocean1]

Is the rule of thumb 1 bike for every 10 pairs of shoes?

No. Look here.

[scumdog]

you dumb cunts all miss the point, Shack up with another guy and your all good

And have a gay old time eh...

[mossy1200]

you dumb cunts all miss the point, Shack up with another guy and your all good

And now you need 2 bikes. One each.

Idd rather have a wife and use her income to help me buy one good bike.

Still if it works for you Carver. Each to their own.

[carver]

And have a gay old time eh...

I am sure you and the boys in blue know how to do that best

[scumdog]

I am sure you and the boys in blue know how to do that best

How do you know that - experienced it a bit eh? eh?

[Crasherfromwayback]

you dumb cunts all miss the point, Shack up with another guy and your all good

Fuck no. Have too much of a sore arse to be able to use the seat.

[GTRMAN]

Fuck no. Have too much of a sore arse to be able to use the seat.

As Sir Michael Gambon said.... "I used to be a homosexual but was forced to give it up..... Why's that he was asked, because it made my eyes water"

[carver]

How do you know that - experienced it a bit eh? eh?

the welcomed me with open arms with the bridge stunt, leo showed up in a limo to arrest me, with no pants on

[ducatilover]

Is the rule of thumb 1 bike for every 10 pairs of shoes?
For the first four years, after that she really begins to ignore/hate you, then you may sneak many, many more in.