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ckai

15th October 2012, 18:53

Amazing news! Just got a personal loan approved to buy a bike and some riding gear!
So now I need some pointers on what to look for when looking at used bikes and gear. (New helmet in order just to be safe). I am good with cars but have very little experience with bikes.
Any help will be greatly appreciated. (Will also be looking for a mentor once I have the new machine if there is anyone in the Cambridge/Hamilton area. Or suggestions of any instructors...)

Drop MURRAY from the Laxed Out Riders a line,. Here on KB. He will know what to do with you and the LOR ride often and do it well, so go for it an enjoy.

Yip come for a ride with us. We even have a MASSIVE carpark at our disposal to have a play in without worrying about anything. It's a really good group for getting some confidence in riding and sorting some things out since we have people that have been riding for YEARS and those that started off recently.

Regarding the helmet...boy, have I got a deal for you (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/153425-Mint-Shoei-helmet-with-crap-loads-of-extras) :) What size head are you? It really is like new. I value my head to much to sell anyone else crap.

This is who you want to talk to (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/member.php/14434-Murray) regarding some knowledge and this is where we talk crap (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/99556-Laxed-out-rides/page172). If Murray can't help ya, he'll put you onto some that can. Hell, even post your questions on the thread and everyone will help :)

MystikEagle

15th October 2012, 19:19

Yip come for a ride with us. We even have a MASSIVE carpark at our disposal to have a play in without worrying about anything. It's a really good group for getting some confidence in riding and sorting some things out since we have people that have been riding for YEARS and those that started off recently.

Regarding the helmet...boy, have I got a deal for you (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/153425-Mint-Shoei-helmet-with-crap-loads-of-extras) :) What size head are you? It really is like new. I value my head to much to sell anyone else crap.

This is who you want to talk to (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/member.php/14434-Murray) regarding some knowledge and this is where we talk crap (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/99556-Laxed-out-rides/page172). If Murray can't help ya, he'll put you onto some that can. Hell, even post your questions on the thread and everyone will help :)

Thnks so much for your help! I have left a message for Murray so I am sure I will hear from him at some point.
Definately keen to get to a carpark for some serious practice before spending too much time on the road, I have a healthy respect for my level of experience...
Took a look at your helmet but I'm about a 58cm, (lots of brains ;)) thats as long as bike helmets and horse helmets are measured the same way...
Going into Hamilton tomorrow to take a look at the bike shops to see what they have in the way of both bikes and gear. Where are the best places to look?

BigAl

15th October 2012, 19:28

Boyds have the biggest range of clothing and hemets, although Ham Honda are also worth a look.

Take a look at both their websites.

Also if you are buying several items ask for a discount;)

MystikEagle

15th October 2012, 19:30

Boyds have the biggest range of clothing and hemets, although Ham Honda are also worth a look.

Take a look at both their websites.

Also if you are buying several items ask for a discount;)

Thanks for that! No other shops in the Hamiltron?

BigAl

15th October 2012, 19:37

Road & sport if you're into chaps, lol. R&S plus Hamilton motorcycle centre are right next to Boyds so would pay to check them all out.

MystikEagle

15th October 2012, 19:39

Road & sport if you're into chaps, lol. R&S plus Hamilton motorcycle centre are right next to Boyds so would pay to check them all out.

Awesome! Thanks very much for that. Might see you out there some day soon :)

LankyBastard

15th October 2012, 20:11

Amazing news! Just got a personal loan approved...

First mistake right there......... :oi-grr:

MystikEagle

15th October 2012, 20:20

First mistake right there......... :oi-grr:

Yeah, I know, but it's great repayment terms and I would rather that than get finance on a bike

Ocean1

15th October 2012, 20:25

Amazing news!

:woohoo:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/153731-Buell-Loki

:first:

MystikEagle

15th October 2012, 20:29

:woohoo:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/153731-Buell-Loki

:first:

Sorry mate, should have specified, I'm still on my learners :(
Really just wanted to know what to look out for in regards to the condition of bikes... Obviously I won't want to buy anything that is pouring smoke out the exhaust, or anything with a warn sproket and loose chain...

Ocean1

15th October 2012, 20:34

Sorry mate, should have specified, I'm still on my learners

Absolutely ideal!

And no chain and sprockets wo worry about!!

Muppet

15th October 2012, 20:50

Buy a Hayabusa or ZX14.

Here's some advice; Don't listen to him!

ckai

15th October 2012, 21:10

Thnks so much for your help! I have left a message for Murray so I am sure I will hear from him at some point.
Definately keen to get to a carpark for some serious practice before spending too much time on the road, I have a healthy respect for my level of experience...
Took a look at your helmet but I'm about a 58cm, (lots of brains ;)) thats as long as bike helmets and horse helmets are measured the same way...
Going into Hamilton tomorrow to take a look at the bike shops to see what they have in the way of both bikes and gear. Where are the best places to look?

They probably are measured the same. I think 58cm is bigger than my head!!! At least when you go try on helmets tomorrow you'll know if there's no chance :) Not trying to push a sale (well kinda ;)) but it would be a perfect first helmet since it's top notch with all the other stuff that's a bonus - for the price of a budget helmet.

After my mishap, I don't scimp on a lid. It's by far the most expensive bit of my kit. But like you've pointed out, you already know that so you've got more clue than most other riders.

Boyds have the biggest range of clothing and hemets, although Ham Honda are also worth a look.

Take a look at both their websites.

Also if you are buying several items ask for a discount;)

Agree with Boyds. You can shop around but you'll probably either buy from Boyds or Hamilton Honda. Boyds sell a lot of product so the distributors give them some good deals. Hamilton Motorcycles (across the road from boyds) have some good kit on sale, well did have. That's of course if you like promoting the bestest bike brand ;)

Another option maybe Waikato Yamaha, down the other end of Te Rapa Straight. Haven't been there in years but could surprise you.

Road & sport if you're into chaps, lol. R&S plus Hamilton motorcycle centre are right next to Boyds so would pay to check them all out.

Well there we go, the big guy is on to it ;)

MystikEagle

16th October 2012, 10:13

They probably are measured the same. I think 58cm is bigger than my head!!! At least when you go try on helmets tomorrow you'll know if there's no chance :) Not trying to push a sale (well kinda ;)) but it would be a perfect first helmet since it's top notch with all the other stuff that's a bonus - for the price of a budget helmet.

After my mishap, I don't scimp on a lid. It's by far the most expensive bit of my kit. But like you've pointed out, you already know that so you've got more clue than most other riders.

Agree with Boyds. You can shop around but you'll probably either buy from Boyds or Hamilton Honda. Boyds sell a lot of product so the distributors give them some good deals. Hamilton Motorcycles (across the road from boyds) have some good kit on sale, well did have. That's of course if you like promoting the bestest bike brand ;)

Another option maybe Waikato Yamaha, down the other end of Te Rapa Straight. Haven't been there in years but could surprise you.

Well there we go, the big guy is on to it ;)

Thanks so much for that! I think it's pretty good that they are all in about the same place...

GrayWolf

16th October 2012, 14:10

Thanks for that! No other shops in the Hamiltron?

Not sure if he still opens the shop at all (dealership closed down) but Waikato yamaha was outing gear at greatly reduced prices.. has come up in tardme a lot too.... may be worth a looksee

Murray

16th October 2012, 14:20

Another option maybe Waikato Yamaha, down the other end of Te Rapa Straight. Haven't been there in years but could surprise you.

Not sure if he still opens the shop at all (dealership closed down) but Waikato yamaha was outing gear at greatly reduced prices.. has come up in tardme a lot too.... may be worth a looksee

I bought a backpack from them near a year ago and it was a closing down sale. Pretty sure they are done and dusted now??

You have Road and Sport, Boyds, and another bike shop about 350 paces further North (Cant remember their name) Hamilton Motorcycles and another Harley shop (HD Motorbikes) are just across the road (5 within 10 minutes walk) and then theres Honda Hamilton in Anglesea street I think. All good shops and all have something a bit different!

ckai

16th October 2012, 15:04

Not sure if he still opens the shop at all (dealership closed down) but Waikato yamaha was outing gear at greatly reduced prices.. has come up in tardme a lot too.... may be worth a looksee

That's right. Forgot about that. They had big problems with people not finding them. They were in a stupid place tucked away in a corner.

MystikEagle

16th October 2012, 16:54

Well I am now fully kitted out thanks to Boyd's :cool:
Got some awesome riding pants that have a thermal liner and a waterproof liner that can be removed. They are still really comfortable and have extra protection in the knees and hips. Should be good for year round riding. I also have a jacket, helmet, gloves and some relly nice boots. And the guy that sorted me out did me a good deal because I got everything from him :)

All I need now is a bike...

JafaSaffer

16th October 2012, 17:15

All I need now is a bike...

Oh dear ..

now you will A: have to to find one

and B: you'll have to find one to match your gear... ;)

MystikEagle

16th October 2012, 18:05

Oh dear ..

now you will A: have to to find one

and B: you'll have to find one to match your gear... ;)

I have a few in mind...
And I made sure my gear is relatively colour friendly :)

JafaSaffer

16th October 2012, 18:11

Good job! :clap:

BigAl

16th October 2012, 18:43

All I need now is a bike...

You could always tog up, sit in front of MotoGp on the telly and make Vroom vroom noises:2thumbsup

Did you check out any of The bikes in the shops for ideas?

MystikEagle

16th October 2012, 19:37

You could always tog up, sit in front of MotoGp on the telly and make Vroom vroom noises:2thumbsup

Did you check out any of The bikes in the shops for ideas?

Now theres a relatively cheaper and safer idea... lol

Yeah, I had a look at the shops I went to but going back tomorrow to look at the honda shop and the scooter bar, they have couple bikes on TM I'm interested in having a sit oncand I ran out of time to stop in today. Sat on a couple of more upright sports bikes which has changed my mind on that style of bike, they are much more comfortable than I thought they would be.

So now I have broadened my horizons to include both cruisers and the upright sports bikes. Thinking of going 400cc or above though, that way I'm less likely to want to upgrade soon

JafaSaffer

16th October 2012, 20:12

If you have ridden before and have some experience, I would really consider a 600cc. Look at a LAMS approved model. That way you wont think in a year or so the engine is too small.

I don't have too much knowledge on the Hyosung bikes but the GT650 seems like a nice learner/beginner bike which could potentially last you a while as far as engine size goes.

On the other hand, if your not worried about engine size then anything over 250cc will provide you with some great fun.

Slicksta

16th October 2012, 20:20

Now theres a relatively cheaper and safer idea... lol

Yeah, I had a look at the shops I went to but going back tomorrow to look at the honda shop and the scooter bar, they have couple bikes on TM I'm interested in having a sit oncand I ran out of time to stop in today. Sat on a couple of more upright sports bikes which has changed my mind on that style of bike, they are much more comfortable than I thought they would be.

So now I have broadened my horizons to include both cruisers and the upright sports bikes. Thinking of going 400cc or above though, that way I'm less likely to want to upgrade soon

Try out the ninja 300 that seems to be getting positive reviews. I took one for a ride and liked it enough to buy one even after owning a 650 for a year or so.

JafaSaffer

16th October 2012, 20:45

Try out the ninja 300

Now there is a great idea. I also had a look at that bike. Very good looking and well priced.

ducatilover

16th October 2012, 21:04

I'll sell you the fastest GN in NZ.
With polished bits.

MystikEagle

16th October 2012, 22:20

I'll sell you the fastest GN in NZ.
With polished bits.

That's assuming you get it back together and actually running properly :dodge: :bleh:
I will take the polished bits though...

MystikEagle

16th October 2012, 22:22

Try out the ninja 300 that seems to be getting positive reviews. I took one for a ride and liked it enough to buy one even after owning a 650 for a year or so.

Not a fan of the Ninja, too much of a "race" bike for me. I have a bad back so need a more upright position. Fallen off too many horses of the four legged variety

MystikEagle

17th October 2012, 13:20

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=522720196

Has anyone heard of these bikes? Was looking at them today, imported by Triumph...
Any thoughts???

Drew

17th October 2012, 13:44

Here's a thought. RUN AWAY!

It's a 250 single, even if it goes really friggin well, I'm afraid it's gonna be total shit.

Given the options available to a learner these days, that bike is throwing six grand down the toilet.

Drew

17th October 2012, 13:48

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-252360365.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-216984494.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-511481839.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-522582665.htm

Four very good learner bikes for the same money.

george formby

17th October 2012, 14:26

MystikEagle

17th October 2012, 14:31

THIS (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-519947004.htm) is betterer. One listed for $5000+ too. Lower mileage & newer.
A mate had one at the same time as i had the Pegaso, the Peg had the legs most of the time but the Dommie proved to be unstoppable & unbreakable, well, easily repairable... IYKWIM:lol:

Thanks for sharing. Looks too much like a farm bike for me, and I'm not a fan of the headlight. (I'm a female, that means I'm allowed to be super fussy lol!)

george formby

17th October 2012, 14:33

Thanks for sharing. Looks too much like a farm bike for me, and I'm not a fan of the headlight. (I'm a female, that means I'm allowed to be super fussy lol!)

Nuff said!! The Dommie is a true classic, though & will hold it's value. They are a lower in the seat too.

Akzle

17th October 2012, 15:26

now i have.

like to see a brand spanking, with that price scaling, but more of a 4-600 type....

@ndy

17th October 2012, 15:32

MystikEagle

17th October 2012, 15:34

I spoke with a dealer he said didn't know what to do with the 250' he has in stock... nobody wants them anymore because of the new license laws. Go bigger CC it will hold the value and run smoother than a single cylinder 250 running at high revs.
Just my thought , your money your choice ;)

I would prefer something bigger, just thought it was worth looking at. Not often you see a brand new bike at that price. Would have been a definate option if I wasn't planning on doing alot of road trips...

Tigadee

17th October 2012, 15:40

Has anyone heard of these bikes? Was looking at them today, imported by Triumph...
Any thoughts???

Get a Scorpio, that's a 225cc single... Better value, costs heaps less, more or equal fun, and less worries.

This Daelim is probably not too bad, but for that price, it's sorely under-equipped...

@ndy

17th October 2012, 15:45

I would prefer something bigger, just thought it was worth looking at. Not often you see a brand new bike at that price. Would have been a definate option if I wasn't planning on doing alot of road trips...

True it is cheap for a new bike but not sure if adapt for doing road trips. For that budget I would look into a bmw f650 or transalp, very easy bikes, cheap to run, comfortable... but than again one guy did Sidney - London on a postie bike ! :lol:

sleemanj

17th October 2012, 16:18

I wouldn't personally buy a new 250. But then I wouldn't personally buy a brand new bike, depreciation sucks.

As for the Daelim, I haven't read anything particularly bad about it as far as it goes, but looking at the specs it is not exactly awe-inspiring at 25 hp - for a sports 250 that's pretty poor IMHO, although perhaps par for the course in the modern world.

sinfull

17th October 2012, 16:45

it's sorely under-equipped...
And the Scorpio aint lol

tbs

17th October 2012, 16:47

tbs

17th October 2012, 16:50

Just re-read your last post.

Go bigger if you want to do road trips. The 250 will do it, but you have to plan out your overtakes too carefully for my liking.

Fast Eddie

17th October 2012, 16:53

recon the tz250 bodywork can be retrofitted onto this?

would be cool as haha

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-511481839.htm

MystikEagle

17th October 2012, 17:07

Doesn't really matter how good the Daelim is. It'll be a complete sod to offload when you get bored of it, because no-one will want it.

Actually I was mooching around a shop that had them when I was buying my Ninja and had a close look over one. The finishing on it was pretty awful. There was a paint seam right down the middle of the tank.

If you do go for a 250 the Ninja is an easy bike to live with and their are loads of them around. Should be a bit cheaper now with LAMs too.

This is very true. The one I looked at wasn't that bad but definately could have been better.

I find the Ninja puts me in an uncomfortable position (bad back) otherwise I would probably have one already at the price you can get them for...

MystikEagle

17th October 2012, 18:35

Who knew that it would be so damn difficult to find a bike with the new engine and size limits?!

I have just spent most of my afternoon/evening on various online trading sites trying to find something over 250cc, (at least 400 for the long road trips I plan on doing) under $5,500, on the LAMS list and in an upright sports bike style (rules out the ninja, katana etc). To be honest, I am now over looking at bikes!

On a more positive note, I now have two options

Option #1 (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=522582665)
Option #2 (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=520645200)

Option #1 would be great, seems well looked after etc, but it's in Wellington so no way for me to take a look, have a test ride etc.

Option #2, simply the only other bike that fits in my (strict) criteria, other than that...

Anyone have any other ideas? Or any comments on these two bikes?

Cheers in advance!

Ocean1

17th October 2012, 18:48

Option #1 would be great, seems well looked after etc, but it's in Wellington so no way for me to take a look, have a test ride etc.

I know that bike, it's a good'n.

PM me if you want to know more about it.

MystikEagle

17th October 2012, 18:50

Ok, just found out that option #1 has been sold :(
But, I did find this (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=524376985)

MystikEagle

17th October 2012, 18:51

I know that bike, it's a good'n.

PM me if you want to know more about it.

Thanks, but she sold it already :(

Ocean1

17th October 2012, 18:56

Thanks, but she sold it already :(

So I see.

Are Suzuki SV650s on the list?

MystikEagle

17th October 2012, 19:01

So I see.

Are Suzuki SV650s on the list?

Only the SV650SU...
Here (http://www.nzta.govt.nz/licence/getting/motorcycles/approved-motorcycles.html) is the approved LAMS list
That one may be too much of a "racing" position for me. Nice bike though...

Maha

17th October 2012, 19:15

I think these are on the list..http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-463419383.htm

BigAl

17th October 2012, 19:18

ducatilover

17th October 2012, 19:21

I think these are on the list..http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-463419383.htm
Not without a restrictor kit, I'm not sure about the rules with the restrictor kits here.
AFAIK we don't get the SV650SU yet either

Ocean1

17th October 2012, 19:21

I think these are on the list..http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-463419383.htm

Was just going to suggest that.

Kwaka ER6L is, I take it a nobbled version?

Edit: Don't rate the Beemer for what you want, but don't let that stop you taking it for a wee test ride.

MystikEagle

17th October 2012, 19:23

I think these are on the list..http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-463419383.htm

Thanks but too far away and I'm not sure what the model number is but "bandit" isn't on the list

MystikEagle

17th October 2012, 19:25

Whatever you do don't rush into a bike, I'd try and ride a few to determine what suits you.

Also get any prospective bike checked out by a bike shop or knowledgeable mate.

Make a list of a few possible bikes in Auckland and make a day of it, also check out shops up there, most have websites listing their bikes.

Good luck.

Thanks, definately taking my time. Whatever I end up with has to do me for awhile. Will be a long time before I can afford to upgrade/buy something else

MystikEagle

17th October 2012, 19:27

Was just going to suggest that.

Kwaka ER6L is, I take it a nobbled version?

Edit: Don't rate the Beemer for what you want, but don't let that stop you taking it for a wee test ride.

ER6L?

May have to stay 600 or under due to rego costs :( So that rules out the Beemer anyways...

Ocean1

17th October 2012, 19:33

ER6L?

May have to stay 600 or under due to rego costs :( So that rules out the Beemer anyways...

Sorry, ER6-N, like this: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-518761778.htm

ER6-NL is on the list, but I suspect the"L" is significant.

Pity, nice machine that fits the brief.

Edit: There's an older ER500, (500cc) that's on the list... but none on TM.

ducatilover

17th October 2012, 19:37

Thanks, definately taking my time. Whatever I end up with has to do me for awhile. Will be a long time before I can afford to upgrade/buy something else A Bandit will start with GSF. Like GSF250, 400 etc

Sorry, ER6-N, like this: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-518761778.htm

ER6-NL is on the list, but I suspect the"L" is significant.

Pity, nice machine that fits the brief.

Edit: There's an older ER500, (500cc) that's on the list... but none on TM.
Have we got the 650L here yet? It'd make the new EX300 thing completely redundant.

The ER500 are an excellent little bike

MystikEagle

17th October 2012, 19:37

Sorry, ER6-N, like this: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-518761778.htm

ER6-NL is on the list, but I suspect the"L" is significant.

Pity, nice machine that fits the brief.

Edit: There's an older ER500, (500cc) that's on the list... but none on TM.

That is a nice bike! I just have to be careful where the pegs are, I need to stay away from the lower, "racing" type position.

MystikEagle

17th October 2012, 19:39

A Bandit will start with GSF. Like GSF250, 400 etc

There is GS and GSR and GSX but no GSF

Ocean1

17th October 2012, 19:42

That is a nice bike! I just have to be careful where the pegs are, I need to stay away from the lower, "racing" type position.

Sold an ER6F last year, (faired version), not too sport-scrunched.

Re ergonomics, have a play with this: http://cycle-ergo.com/

Edit, (again). ER6 very similar shaped ergos to that Suzuki 500 that's sold. Worth keeping an eye out for another one...

ducatilover

17th October 2012, 19:44

There is GS and GSR and GSX but no GSF
Well there we go, the only LAMS Bandit will be the GSF250
Good little bikes too...

You should go get your leg over everything you can

MystikEagle

17th October 2012, 19:46

Sold an ER6F last year, (faired version), not too sport-scrunched.

Re ergonomics, have a play with this: http://cycle-ergo.com/

Edit, (again). ER6 very similar shaped ergos to that Suzuki 500 that's sold. Worth keeping an eye out for another one...

That is an awesome site! Added to my bookmarks...

MystikEagle

17th October 2012, 19:47

Well there we go, the only LAMS Bandit will be the GSF250
Good little bikes too...

You should go get your leg over everything you can

Hmmm, my mind is rolling down the gutter...:whistle:

ducatilover

17th October 2012, 19:55

You should probably test ride some bikes too?

MystikEagle

17th October 2012, 19:56

You should probably test ride some bikes too?

Maybe once Iv'e finished throwing my leg over everything in sight :dodge:

Lol, thats kinda why I would rather buy something close enough to go look at

ducatilover

17th October 2012, 19:59

Go to bike shops etc and start throwing the leg over?

MystikEagle

17th October 2012, 20:03

Go to bike shops etc and start throwing the leg over?

Straight face, must keep a straight face

Righto, I have been to all (I think all) of the bike shops in hamilton and sat on a few of the bikes I like the look of, if nothing more than to get an idea of what they feel like as they are mostly out of my price range. I did rather like the Honda CBR250 but have been told I would need a bigger bike for the long distance trips I am planning to do

ducatilover

17th October 2012, 20:10

What year CBR250?
I've done Auckland to Pahiatua (40km away from Palmy) on a '91 MC22 CBR250RR and it wasn't too bad.
Unless you're tall, or an ogre.

MystikEagle

17th October 2012, 20:14

What year CBR250?
I've done Auckland to Pahiatua (40km away from Palmy) on a '91 MC22 CBR250RR and it wasn't too bad.
Unless you're tall, or an ogre.

Brand spanking 2011 (http://www.hondahamilton.co.nz/store/product.aspx?ProductId=1093)
Only $7,500
I am a tad under 180cm and approx. 75kg

Ocean1

17th October 2012, 20:16

Been looking over that LAMS list.

KTM525?

Really?

'Berg TE300?

I'm pickin' there's not much industry input, there.

MystikEagle

17th October 2012, 20:19

Been looking over that LAMS list.

KTM525?

Really?

'Berg TE300?

I'm pickin' there's not much industry input, there.

Pretty crazy the number of off-roaders on the list. I don't know what half the letters mean so spent a few hours looking them all up...

george formby

17th October 2012, 20:23

Go to bike shops etc and start throwing the leg over?

I suggested that in another of mysticbeagles threads, not as blatantly.

I do like that wee Honda, another run forever bike.... 'm looking for a gymkhana bike. Hm, horizons broadend.

ducatilover

17th October 2012, 20:23

Brand spanking 2011 (http://www.hondahamilton.co.nz/store/product.aspx?ProductId=1093)
Only $7,500
I am a tad under 180cm and approx. 75kg
I wouldn't bother, you'll lose more money than buying the same thing second hand.
It may be a bit down on power for long trips (some may say, I've ridden worse for long periods of time) and I doubt you would be cramped on it

The Honda VTR250 is a better bike, smoother, more power/torque, easier to use, cheaper to buy, cheap to maintain, look cool etc
Or the Honda Hornet/CB250, seriously good bike, possibly the most reliable 250 you can buy and a nice motor too.

Been looking over that LAMS list.

KTM525?

Really?

'Berg TE300?

I'm pickin' there's not much industry input, there.
There's some fun to be had there :D

george formby

17th October 2012, 20:26

Been looking over that LAMS list.

KTM525?

Really?

'Berg TE300?

I'm pickin' there's not much industry input, there.

Oh. And my personal fav. IT 490.. Predictable & forgiving.

MystikEagle

17th October 2012, 20:28

I wouldn't bother, you'll lose more money than buying the same thing second hand.

That's about the decision I came to. I just got a tad drawn in by the "brand new" factor. But yes, as soon as you turn that key, you are losing money. Need to keep it for a good few years to get your moneys worth out of it and (being the speed freak I am) I will want to upgrade from a 250 too soon. Better to start of as you mean to carry on I reckon

ducatilover

17th October 2012, 20:30

That's about the decision I came to. I just got a tad drawn in by the "brand new" factor. But yes, as soon as you turn that key, you are losing money. Need to keep it for a good few years to get your moneys worth out of it and (being the speed freak I am) I will want to upgrade from a 250 too soon. Better to start of as you mean to carry on I reckon
Take a Bandit/GSF250 for a ride if you can? I think one would fit you well, and they're another reliable bike, bloody cheap for a decent 250 too (I know of one for sale, fuckin' buy it, no it's not mine)

MystikEagle

17th October 2012, 20:32

Take a Bandit/GSF250 for a ride if you can? I think one would fit you well, and they're another reliable bike, bloody cheap for a decent 250 too (I know of one for sale, fuckin' buy it, no it's not mine)

I guess it could be worth trying...
Keen to get something around the 500 mark though

Ocean1

17th October 2012, 20:34

Older, but cheap, and a good fit.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-520645200.htm

Another Suzuki 500, good value for $

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-520986789.htm

Left field, good fit, though.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-508178891.htm

MystikEagle

17th October 2012, 20:38

Ocean1

17th October 2012, 20:43

Pretty crazy the number of off-roaders on the list. I don't know what half the letters mean so spent a few hours looking them all up...

I have a 525. My arms wern't this long when I bought it.

The 'Berg... let's just say neither of them comes within a bull's roar of the kw/Kg ratio they're quoting.

98tls

17th October 2012, 20:43

Forget the Ducati,you would have more fun on the VTR250,probably worth more when you have finished with it to,least its likely to still be running.

ducatilover

17th October 2012, 20:44

The CB400 Super Four isn't LAMS legal.
They're a great bike though, if you change the bars. Mine was hellishly uncomfy on any trip over 100km.
The Ducati would be a grouse learner bike.

MystikEagle

17th October 2012, 20:50

While we are on the subject of LAMS legal, while I was still in the frame of mind of getting a cruiser and was in at the shops having a sit on a few different bikes, one of the sales guys got me onto a Honda Shadow (750cc for any newbies like me :baby:). Now, said sales guy, wants to get me up at the track to have a ride on said very much LAMS Illegal bike and is very sure that I should purchase this bike. He knows I only have my learners and haven't ridden in over 4 years. He was giving me all kinds of reasons such as he wouldn't sell it to me if I didn't seem sensible...
Is it even legal for a sales guy to sell non LAMS bikes to a learner? :scratch:

ducatilover

17th October 2012, 20:55

He can sell you anything he wants

I was just browsing through the list and the fastest bike you can buy is the ZZR400.
My ZX6/ZZR is a 400... with a 600 motor (bolt in job)
There we go, 100hp LAMS bike, nobody needs to know

Ocean1

17th October 2012, 20:55

Is it even legal for a sales guy to sell non LAMS bikes to a learner? :scratch:

No. Of course not.

But look, there's a Buell 400CR going for a very reasonable price: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-524109068.htm

MystikEagle

17th October 2012, 20:59

Tigadee

17th October 2012, 21:02

And the Scorpio aint lol

For its price, the Scorpio is what it is - cheap, simple, reliable and a 225cc single... That Daelim is 6k for a 250cc single "sports"? Whereas you can pick up a Scorpio for 1/3 that.

ducatilover

17th October 2012, 21:06

There's no law against owning the bike :D

Fast Eddie

17th October 2012, 21:38

There's no law against owning the bike :D

thank god!

Slicksta

17th October 2012, 22:05

Brand spanking 2011 (http://www.hondahamilton.co.nz/store/product.aspx?ProductId=1093)
Only $7,500
I am a tad under 180cm and approx. 75kg

You can possibly pick up a CBR250R cheaper than that especially second hand. A few years ago I owned a CBF 250 (less powerful) and I went to wellington (from Hamilton) and back again + many more long distance trips. The only disadvantage was that you really have to pick your overtaking points but with the CBR that should be less of an issue for you.

Don't let anyone tell you you need a large displacement bike for long distance 250s are fine. Infact I found my CBF more comfy than my sv650 long distance.

Gremlin

17th October 2012, 22:20

So basically, anyone can sell me anything / I could buy anything? Nobody needs to know type thing...?

Thats a little odd. You would think with them cracking down on learners etc that there would be some rules...
Not illegal to own, but illegal to operate purely because it's outside your licence conditions.

No, the salesman shouldn't be recommending stuff you shouldn't be buying, but he's a salesman...

Glowerss

17th October 2012, 22:55

If you want a nice looking bike that'll go forever and be extremely nice to you and your wallet, go buy that gs500f. It's the newest of the bunch, the bike has been around since the late 80s without any changes aside from them slapping the fairings on it back in 07 or summat. It won't depreciate much and it'll take you wherever you want to go.

Buying anything else is just plain silly unless you feel like you want a motard/dual sport.

Maha

18th October 2012, 05:50

Theres the Kawasaki EX500 on the Home Page that Dogs has for sale?...$2,500 with pannier bags.

Grubber

18th October 2012, 06:18

This is very true. The one I looked at wasn't that bad but definately could have been better.

I find the Ninja puts me in an uncomfortable position (bad back) otherwise I would probably have one already at the price you can get them for...

When you learn to ride a sports bike, you won't have issues with your back. It's all about positioning on a sports bike. To be honest, i think you would actually like the Ninja. I have a few friends that have them and absolutely love them.

Let us all know what you finally decide on, would be interesting.
Personally i would stare clear of those Korean tredleys and go buy a 2nd hand something that is more desirable.;)

sinfull

18th October 2012, 07:48

For its price, the Scorpio is what it is - cheap, simple, reliable and a 225cc single... That Daelim is 6k for a 250cc single "sports"? Whereas you can pick up a Scorpio for 1/3 that.

Did quote the words *sorely under equipped* !

Ridden the scorp, as i bought one for the Mrs as a learners a few years back, (still got it as it is a good training bike for my kids and their mates) but once highway travel comes into the equation, it is sorely under equipped ! Seen some ugly situations while following her on long trips where a little more power would have alleviated any danger !
At 80-90 k it has nothing left re power to get you out of trouble and the front suspension is what i'd call extremely sad !

But of course each to his/her own

nudemetalz

18th October 2012, 08:11

That SZR660 is one awesome looking machine !!
I'd be tempted.

MystikEagle

18th October 2012, 09:41

Glowerss

18th October 2012, 10:38

I do really like the GS500F, the original one that I found and loved has been sold though and the only other one on TM is in Christchurch :(

Have the seller take it to a mech to get er checked out, and get it shipped. I did that with my 400. ChCh to Auckers and vice versa is the main shipping for both biketranz and motorcycle movers, and cost you around 300-350$ or so. Cambridge isn't so far away that it either wouldn't cost much more to get it to your door, or come to auckers to pick up.

If I had that kind of dosh to spend, I'd hang out for a 500. Theyre bloody economical, reliable as the earth turning, dont look too bad (if you can get over the gixxer wanna be look) and assuming you dont feel the need for massive hp/torque, last you well into your full.

Tigadee

18th October 2012, 11:41

Did quote the words *sorely under equipped* !

Indeed I did... and I should have added "...for its price."

My bad... :yes:

Ridden the scorp, as i bought one for the Mrs as a learners a few years back, (still got it as it is a good training bike for my kids and their mates) but once highway travel comes into the equation, it is sorely under equipped ! Seen some ugly situations while following her on long trips where a little more power would have alleviated any danger !
At 80-90 k it has nothing left re power to get you out of trouble and the front suspension is what i'd call extremely sad !

That much is true, although 110kph is what I managed every day commuting on it... with little wind, properly inflated tyres, nose-to-handlebar,...:lol:

But of course each to his/her own

Of course... ;) I'd agree that anything like the Scorpio or the Dealim would be unsuited to frequent motorway or open road travel. Possible of course but...

ducatilover

18th October 2012, 13:38

Theres the Kawasaki EX500 on the Home Page that Dogs has for sale?...$2,500 with pannier bags.
Great bikes those.
I'll ride it up for ya :D

MystikEagle

18th October 2012, 14:16

Great bikes those.
I'll ride it up for ya :D

It's a decision between that and this (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=520986789)

Just offered $5,500 for the GS500, will see what he sends back

BigAl

18th October 2012, 14:52

Hey ME that GS looks very tidy and would be a great starter bike.

MystikEagle

18th October 2012, 14:55

Hey ME that GS looks very tidy and would be a great starter bike.

Thats what I'm thinking! Just have to cross my fingers he accepts my offer :)

Maha

18th October 2012, 15:02

Hey ME that GS looks very tidy and would be a great starter bike.

I agree...and if the price offered, is accepted, thats great buying right there!
I know said ealier about ''buying the right bike for you'' (which is 100% the thing to do) the GS would be a great starter as you said, for anyone.
Bar risers can always be fitted if the position is not to liking, but I can't see that being a problem.

Why is the speedo in miles?...current owner doesn't know that it can be changed with a push of a button....right?

Edit:...though I can't see how to, looking at the pics.

FJRider

18th October 2012, 19:14

I would prefer something bigger, just thought it was worth looking at. Not often you see a brand new bike at that price. Would have been a definate option if I wasn't planning on doing alot of road trips...

Just remember ... standing up your feet may reach the ground. On a big bike however ... they may not.

Please post a pic of your legs (Bare is ok) .... :drool:

MystikEagle

18th October 2012, 19:51

Have the seller take it to a mech to get er checked out, and get it shipped. I did that with my 400. ChCh to Auckers and vice versa is the main shipping for both biketranz and motorcycle movers, and cost you around 300-350$ or so. Cambridge isn't so far away that it either wouldn't cost much more to get it to your door, or come to auckers to pick up.

If I had that kind of dosh to spend, I'd hang out for a 500. Theyre bloody economical, reliable as the earth turning, dont look too bad (if you can get over the gixxer wanna be look) and assuming you dont feel the need for massive hp/torque, last you well into your full.

$470ish from ChCh to Cambridge.
Trying to stick to the 400 to 600 bracket, should give me enough power for the longer road trips but still stays under that horrible rego increase... Also means I won't have to upgrade any time soon

MystikEagle

18th October 2012, 19:55

Anyone have any opinions on this? (http://www.motorcycletrader.co.nz/View/Used/SUZUKI-DR650RS-1994/46159.aspx?N=0&Ns=P_PricePOA&No=150)
Worth going to take a nosy at if the GS falls through???

JafaSaffer

18th October 2012, 20:01

Anyone have any opinions on this? (http://www.motorcycletrader.co.nz/View/Used/SUZUKI-DR650RS-1994/46159.aspx?N=0&Ns=P_PricePOA&No=150)
Worth going to take a nosy at if the GS falls through???

How tall are you? Keep that in mind. But I don't like it to be honest... sorry.

Ocean1

18th October 2012, 20:02

Anyone have any opinions on this? (http://www.motorcycletrader.co.nz/View/Used/SUZUKI-DR650RS-1994/46159.aspx?N=0&Ns=P_PricePOA&No=150)
Worth going to take a nosy at if the GS falls through???

It's an overweight trail bike. As a tourable dirt bike they're good value, but it's not what you said you wanted.

ducatilover

18th October 2012, 20:32

That DR is elec start, so atleast it won't make you have a huge right leg.
The can drop screws out the neutral switches (behind the clutch), if going to a mech to make sure those screws are lock tite and lock wired, it'll cost a bit.
They also have manual adjustment on the balance shaft chains, annoying and if ignored, big mess.

As for the GS500 and EX500/GPZ/Ninja thing, they're both much of a muchness really, both very capable twins, both smooth and easy to ride, both forgiving and both reliable.
I doubt you could go wrong with either of them.
I'd happily tootle around on one, even if they make less than half the power of my Kwaka

Glowerss

18th October 2012, 21:49

$470ish from ChCh to Cambridge.
Trying to stick to the 400 to 600 bracket, should give me enough power for the longer road trips but still stays under that horrible rego increase... Also means I won't have to upgrade any time soon

Strictly speaking, there are plenty of 250s out there that will easily tour all over the place with heaps of power to spare. Honda Hornets, for example, have nearly as much BHP as as the GS500. One nutter on here gijoe has gone all over the north island on his. Had it for over 100k kms until somebody stole the thing.

Quite a few Kbers actually with 250 hornets over 100kms.

Honda vt 250 spadas also have some 40+ odd BHP and will easily go wherever you want and last 100k kms+

Don't feel the need to limit yourself to strictly 400-600s. Heaps of good shit out there.

ducatilover

18th October 2012, 22:10

ducatilover

18th October 2012, 22:12

Honda vt 250 spadas also have some 40+ odd BHP and will easily go wherever you want and last 100k kms+

Also have the highest torque of all the 250 4 strokes.
Mine lasted 15x,000km. 130,000 of those with me raping the poor thing

Gremlin

18th October 2012, 22:22

Glowerss

18th October 2012, 23:00

The only new 250 I'd ever consider is this
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-522883061.htm
Why? It looks like pure sex and I could slam a fucking stupid motor in it.

The rest of the 250s are poo now that LAMS exists, far better bikes can be had for much less coin.

Iunno man. You'd find a way to make it fucking ugly :rolleyes: I have faith! Although I will admit, Geoff is one of the best looking ....... well its not a gn250 anymore is it?

Your 600 is still the ugliest thing I've ever seen.

Anyway, the new 250s are absolutely poo. The new ninja300 would be great if it wasn't as expensive as it is. Sign of the times I guess.

ducatilover

18th October 2012, 23:37

Iunno man. You'd find a way to make it fucking ugly :rolleyes: I have faith! Although I will admit, Geoff is one of the best looking ....... well its not a gn250 anymore is it?

Your 600 is still the ugliest thing I've ever seen.

Anyway, the new 250s are absolutely poo. The new ninja300 would be great if it wasn't as expensive as it is. Sign of the times I guess.
My son, you have bad taste :rolleyes:
The Nijna 300 would be great if... well, if it was?

GDOBSSOR

18th October 2012, 23:45

I'm looking for a first bike as well. I have $2000-$2200 to spend on it, excluding shit like insurance, rego, gear etc. I've looked on Trademe and I've seen some possibilities that have looked really good, but I'm not too keen on buying sight unseen although I don't really know what to look for when going to view/testride. I asked my cousin who is a very experienced motorcyclist to help me out and he refused. Apparently, he would feel responsible if I had an accident, although, I think I am capable of making my own decisions about my life and I would have thought he'd want to help me find a safe vehicle. The fact that there seem to be no decent bikes in the Wellington area in my budget range frustrates things.

Gremlin

18th October 2012, 23:52

MystikEagle

19th October 2012, 03:10

Drew

19th October 2012, 03:39

Full backup of Triumph NZ.... hahahah, mutually exclusive facts :laugh:Had a close look at those bikes, and it looks as shit as the Chinese stuff. You're better off with a Hyosung.

As for the back up service, I laughed aswell. They are useless!

Captain_Salty

19th October 2012, 06:43

So the DR is out...

The GS, though a great bike, really is just a little out of my budget :( (I really only have $5,000)

So I have emailed the guy with the Ninja that's also on here. It's says on here that it will be sold warranted and that the tyre will be fitted when it goes in for a service so basically I am just confirming that. I have also asked if he can get the mechanics to give it a pre-purchase check when they warrant it. I think that if it is all ok, it will be a good buy and is well in my budget.

Thanks alot for all of your help and advice guys! :first:

Have you tried this GS http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-522582665.htm ? they might take 5 for it. Slightly older ones in good condition do come up on trademe quite regularly for $2500 - $3000 if you can wait.

Tigadee

19th October 2012, 08:37

I'm looking for a first bike as well. I have $2000-$2200 to spend on it, excluding shit like insurance, rego, gear etc.

Yamaha FZX250 Zeal - Powerful (for a 250 with 40ish hp), comfortable (great seat and sitting posture, unless you want the 'draped over the tank' style), excellent brakes, looks and easy to handle. Some of them going for about $2k...

MystikEagle

19th October 2012, 09:42

Have you tried this GS http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-522582665.htm ? they might take 5 for it. Slightly older ones in good condition do come up on trademe quite regularly for $2500 - $3000 if you can wait.

That one was the first one I seriously looked at but it has already sold :weep:

GDOBSSOR

19th October 2012, 09:53

GDOBSSOR (and Mystik), you could also look at getting a shop to give it a once over. I wouldn't guarantee their lookover as such, but at least it's something to start with.

GDOBSSOR, you could also spin it around on him that he could help you avoid getting a bad one...

Apparently, I need to 'consult' my parents and involve them in the decision. For fuck's sake, I'm 20, not fifteen. I'm done with 'caring' people who think they know everything telling me what I should and shouldn't be doing.

GDOBSSOR

19th October 2012, 10:00

So the DR is out...

The GS, though a great bike, really is just a little out of my budget :( (I really only have $5,000)

So I have emailed the guy with the Ninja that's also on here. It's says on here that it will be sold warranted and that the tyre will be fitted when it goes in for a service so basically I am just confirming that. I have also asked if he can get the mechanics to give it a pre-purchase check when they warrant it. I think that if it is all ok, it will be a good buy and is well in my budget.

Thanks alot for all of your help and advice guys! :first:
Good idea, I might get that done with an FXR150 I'm looking at. How much is a pre-purchase check?

Tigadee

19th October 2012, 10:04

Apparently, I need to 'consult' my parents and involve them in the decision. For fuck's sake, I'm 20, not fifteen. I'm done with 'caring' people who think they know everything telling me what I should and shouldn't be doing.

Easy now, that's the first step towards making a rash and unhealthy decision(s)... If you display patience and maturity, that will turn them around. The more you display, the less they have to say (eventually). Shooting off will only make them think you will ride the way you talk...

MystikEagle

19th October 2012, 10:19

Good idea, I might get that done with an FXR150 I'm looking at. How much is a pre-purchase check?

I'm not sure, going to get them to get a quote before they take it in

Glowerss

19th October 2012, 11:33

My son, you have bad taste :rolleyes:
The Nijna 300 would be great if... well, if it was?

Aww comeon now. Be fair. Aside from the zzr 250s (:love: ) it's the best looking ninja theyve made ever. At 40 BHP it's finally caught up to where bikes were 20 years ago :laugh:

It's certainly a colossal improvement over the current batch. Not saying much, but it's progress! They'd be a great bike at say, $5000. Rather then nearly 10 :shit:

So the DR is out...

The GS, though a great bike, really is just a little out of my budget :( (I really only have $5,000)

So I have emailed the guy with the Ninja that's also on here. It's says on here that it will be sold warranted and that the tyre will be fitted when it goes in for a service so basically I am just confirming that. I have also asked if he can get the mechanics to give it a pre-purchase check when they warrant it. I think that if it is all ok, it will be a good buy and is well in my budget.

Thanks alot for all of your help and advice guys! :first:

Make sure you have a sit on one before comitting. They do lean slightly forward. Not a hell of a lot, but if you're smaller and have a bad back, you'll definitely notice.

Also keep in mind, that you have the rev the little buggers to get em going. Granted I'm a fat bloke, but it makes almost no power below sort of 6k RPM give or take. You'll be sitting around 9k or so at 110 kph. Bearing in mind, the redline is 14,000. The little buggers are parallel twins and do vibrate a lot through the handlebars as well. Particularly on the motorway. Take one for a test ride first, you might find you dont necessarily appreciate that fact. Doesn't bother me overly much, but it clearly does some

I'm not sure, going to get them to get a quote before they take it in

Make sure you get a checklist of what they're actually checking as well. And be sure to ask them for some specifics. Pre purchse inspections are typically around 75$ and cover little more then a visual inspections. Think a WOF check, except they might check the oil and brake fluid levels. At best you'll know if you need a new tire/brakes, possibly chain or sprocket. Anything really serious will almost certainly be missed, unless its massively obvious (smoke pouring out the back or something similarly catastrophic).

Last bike I had shipped from christchurch, paid for an inspection. they missed heaps of shit that they probably shouldn't have. I didn't bother with one on my current bike.

GDOBSSOR

19th October 2012, 13:40

Make sure you get a checklist of what they're actually checking as well. And be sure to ask them for some specifics. Pre purchse inspections are typically around 75$ and cover little more then a visual inspections. Think a WOF check, except they might check the oil and brake fluid levels. At best you'll know if you need a new tire/brakes, possibly chain or sprocket. Anything really serious will almost certainly be missed, unless its massively obvious (smoke pouring out the back or something similarly catastrophic).

Last bike I had shipped from christchurch, paid for an inspection. they missed heaps of shit that they probably shouldn't have. I didn't bother with one on my current bike.

I'm a newbie and don't know what to look for. My father was a mechanic forty years ago, and when he tried fixing my scooter he gave up, saying it was too modern, and to a) take it to a mechanic and b) get a mechanic inspection on any new motorbike I'm getting. I don't have 75 bucks for every single potential bike I'm looking at, especially if they could miss serious stuff. So what do I do if I'm interested in a bike that's halfway up the north Island?

MystikEagle

19th October 2012, 13:46

Make sure you have a sit on one before comitting. They do lean slightly forward. Not a hell of a lot, but if you're smaller and have a bad back, you'll definitely notice.

Also keep in mind, that you have the rev the little buggers to get em going. Granted I'm a fat bloke, but it makes almost no power below sort of 6k RPM give or take. You'll be sitting around 9k or so at 110 kph. Bearing in mind, the redline is 14,000. The little buggers are parallel twins and do vibrate a lot through the handlebars as well. Particularly on the motorway. Take one for a test ride first, you might find you dont necessarily appreciate that fact. Doesn't bother me overly much, but it clearly does some

Make sure you get a checklist of what they're actually checking as well. And be sure to ask them for some specifics. Pre purchse inspections are typically around 75$ and cover little more then a visual inspections. Think a WOF check, except they might check the oil and brake fluid levels. At best you'll know if you need a new tire/brakes, possibly chain or sprocket. Anything really serious will almost certainly be missed, unless its massively obvious (smoke pouring out the back or something similarly catastrophic).

Last bike I had shipped from christchurch, paid for an inspection. they missed heaps of shit that they probably shouldn't have. I didn't bother with one on my current bike.

Thank you so much for all of that!

It would be nice to have a ride of one but there is nothing in the area that I know of. I am about 175cm so I don't think my height will be too much of an issue. I had a sit on a younger, bigger (I think it was 750, from memory) model in the shop and found the position to be alright. I guess it would be different after a few hours of riding???

Is it much of a vibration? Could you compare it to something? Maybe a power sander for instance?

She has had a new rear tyre fitted and had a mechanic (I am assuming a friend from the email) look it over. He said it was in excellent condition and he is taking it for a WoF for her this afternoon. I guess I will at least know if it's road worthy...

Maybe if she took $2,500 it would be ok if a few things need fixing or replacing soon?

Is it worth getting or should I just be patient and see what comes up closer to home? I have really had enough of looking at bikes and just want to get out there riding!!!

Coolz

19th October 2012, 14:23

Don't buy the Ninja just becaue it's the easiest option. I've used this method of purchasing and always been disapointed. Ride a few bikes. Decide what style, engine configuration you like best. Wait for a good one to come up in your price range. Bikes come up for sale all the time, your patience will be well rewarded.

Glowerss

19th October 2012, 14:49

I'm a newbie and don't know what to look for. My father was a mechanic forty years ago, and when he tried fixing my scooter he gave up, saying it was too modern, and to a) take it to a mechanic and b) get a mechanic inspection on any new motorbike I'm getting. I don't have 75 bucks for every single potential bike I'm looking at, especially if they could miss serious stuff. So what do I do if I'm interested in a bike that's halfway up the north Island?

A few things. First, if you're buying your first bike, buy locally. Or, failing that, make absolutely SURE you ride the exact same model or version of bike first. People who have been riding awhile or have owned a few bikes know what they want, and know enough about bikes or what theyre buying to be sure that what they're getting shipped to them, is what they want. This is doubly true if you're buying on a budget. Spending 2000$ and then spending 200$ to get it shipped to you is just silly.

Getting an inspection done beforehand isn't a bad thing. Just make sure you KNOW what you're getting. This is a very good read, dont let it happen to you. http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/153295-Inspection-expectations-What-would-you-do?highlight=prepurchase

You would only pay for an inspection to be done on a bike that you're 99.9% sure you'll be getting. IF you're buying locally (which you should be really for your first), gave a good study of this:

http://www.clarity.net/adam/buying-bike.html That's a very very very good straight forward and simple guide for how to make sure what you're buying isn't obviously fucked. It even gives you approximate values of repairs and the like. If you have an ipad or print that out, you could do that yourself and have a fair gauge of how the bike fares.

Thank you so much for all of that!

It would be nice to have a ride of one but there is nothing in the area that I know of. I am about 175cm so I don't think my height will be too much of an issue. I had a sit on a younger, bigger (I think it was 750, from memory) model in the shop and found the position to be alright. I guess it would be different after a few hours of riding???

Is it much of a vibration? Could you compare it to something? Maybe a power sander for instance?

She has had a new rear tyre fitted and had a mechanic (I am assuming a friend from the email) look it over. He said it was in excellent condition and he is taking it for a WoF for her this afternoon. I guess I will at least know if it's road worthy...

Maybe if she took $2,500 it would be ok if a few things need fixing or replacing soon?

Is it worth getting or should I just be patient and see what comes up closer to home? I have really had enough of looking at bikes and just want to get out there riding!!!

As above, I would not buy my first ( or first 3 even) bikes without having ridden on the exact same model first. I bought my first 2 bikes without riding them, and both ended up being wrong for me. Much happier with my third after shopping around awhile and testing shit out. I would not buy another bike now without knowing exactly what it was I was buying. Particularly since I (believe) you mentioned not wanting anything too sporty or forward as you have a bad back. The 250 kwackas are fairly neutral, but you ARE forward. There is noticeable weight on your wrists if you're sitting in traffic and are being lazy ( You're not supposed to put weight on your wrists).

If you're going to be in Auckers for any reason over labor weekend you're more then welcome to have a sit on mine. Otherwise, surely there must be a kawasaki dealership in hamilton somewhere? Just go sit on 08 model. Itll be similar to the previous generations (im not sure what year you're looking at ). Boyde's used to have an 07 for sale. I'd ring them to see if they still have it.

Ride before you buy. If you can, take it for a 20 minute spin. 20 minutes will give you a good indication of what it's like. I would strongly advise you not buy something without having ridden it first.

neels

19th October 2012, 14:57

Don't panic, something will turn up.

If you plan on doing some decent mileage more capacity is a good bet, the novelty of shuffling gears and thrashing a small bike to get anywhere wears off pretty quick.

If you see something in chch you want looking over I could probably help, I'm not a mechanic but know my way around a bike reasonably well, none of the ones I've reassembled lately have fallen to bits......

FJRider

19th October 2012, 15:26

Maybe if she took $2,500 it would be ok if a few things need fixing or replacing soon?

Is it worth getting or should I just be patient and see what comes up closer to home? I have really had enough of looking at bikes and just want to get out there riding!!!

Waiting for the perfect bike is good. But waiting isn't. Never WAS ... never WILL BE ...

Trust your own decision making skills, your own ability to make the best decision you can ... with the information you have now.

Out there riding is where we'd ALL like to be. Make offers ... (always lower than asked price) and go from there. Ask all the right questions (those on site here would give you those)

Then make a decision. Simple ... eh ... !!!!

MystikEagle

19th October 2012, 20:28

Thanks for all your help guys.

I currently feel like I'm stuck in a bloody round a bout or something. It's doing my head in! :bash: :brick: I am totally sick of looking at bikes and finding that they are unsuitable for one reason or another.
There have been some good bikes come up, but they have all been too far away for me to go look at and test ride, which I do really need to do to make sure I am going to :love: my purchase.

So... I am going to dissappear for a few days, maybe a week, take some time off bikes so that I can come back into this with a clear head and hopefully be excited about the prospect again!

FJRider

20th October 2012, 08:27

There have been some good bikes come up, but they have all been too far away for me to go look at and test ride, which I do really need to do to make sure I am going to :love: my purchase.

So... I am going to dissappear for a few days, maybe a week, take some time off bikes so that I can come back into this with a clear head and hopefully be excited about the prospect again!

You will love it because it will be yours ... to take you where you want to go ... if you have time/money for gas. And clean and polish when you haven't.

It may not be the latest model ... or even the most popular model. But ... it WILL be yours.

Some things about it you may NOT like ... but you will remember those things ... when you upgrade to the NEXT bike .... being older and wiser in things motorcycle related.

Go with what YOU can afford ... because out riding is always better ... than thinking about being out riding ...