17 inch spoked rims?

[ducatilover]

I'm interested to hear about this.
I'd like to run a 17 front and rear on the Ginny600, just for looks.
Am I correct in saying I can get the outer rim by itself? With the correct number of holes and lace it to my original hubs with sexy new spokes?

Anyone done this kind of this before?

[Drew]

You can buy rims by themselves for sure. Count your spokes, and figure out the lengths you need, and Bob's your uncle.

[bogan]

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[ducatilover]

You can buy rims by themselves for sure. Count your spokes, and figure out the lengths you need, and Bob's your uncle.
Thought as much (Bob is actually my uncle, he's done more drugs than Keith Richards too) cheers
I think it has 36 on teh front, I'll have a look

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There ya go...
Cheers bra, warm the lathe up and I'll be 'round soon

[HenryDorsetCase]

Motard rims? they use 17's I think?

I am interested to see how you go with this.

[98tls]

Yep me to,ive often looked at the spoked rims on the late model retro Ducatis and thought here we go.....

[Drew]

Yep me to,ive often looked at the spoked rims on the late model retro Ducatis and thought here we go.....

I know where there is a 6 inch wide spoked rear rim. Sound like your cup'o'tea?

[98tls]

I know where there is a 6 inch wide spoked rear rim. Sound like your cup'o'tea?

Thanks for the offer D but happy enough with the rims i bought.Was just one of those what if things.would look good on an old TLS i reckon.

[dogsnbikes]

I'm interested to hear about this.
I'd like to run a 17 front and rear on the Ginny600, just for looks.
Am I correct in saying I can get the outer rim by itself? With the correct number of holes and lace it to my original hubs with sexy new spokes?

Anyone done this kind of this before?

Yes have done this with the rear rim on the cafe racer standard hub from 18" laced into 17" rim the angles of the spokes needed to be changed and a heavier duty spoke used to allow for the shorten spoke.....your welcome to come and have alook..

[ducatilover]

Motard rims? they use 17's I think?

I am interested to see how you go with this. That's the stuff. I'm pretty sure most 'tards run too wide a rim on the arse, but I'll have a look on the eBay thing etc and see what's out there

Got to make the fucking thing yet though :lol:


Yes have done this with the rear rim on the cafe racer standard hub from 18" laced into 17" rim the angles of the spokes needed to be changed and a heavier duty spoke used to allow for the shorten spoke.....your welcome to come and have alook..
I'll have to come have a peek (might run a key down the tank, can't have a Honda looking so much nicer than my shitters)

[Drew]

That's the stuff. I'm pretty sure most 'tards run too wide a rim on the arse, but I'll have a look on the eBay thing etc and see what's out there

4 inch will take a 140 section tyre, to a 160 with a bit of roll to it. You're not making something that is going to corner, so whatever floats your boat.

[Kickaha]

There's more to it than the number of holes and rim size, different rims have the spoke angle drilled different as well depending on the size of the hub they're laced to

[Drew]

There's more to it than the number of holes and rim size, different rims have the spoke angle drilled different as well depending on the size of the hub they're laced toDon't be such a spoil sport. It's doable, get fuckin lacing!

[DEATH_INC.]

There's also different lacing patterns...pretty sure they're like cross2 and cross 3 etc. I'm also fairly sure the rims can take a bit of variation too......I remember lacing an 18" KX125 rim to a TT250 hub years ago....

[F5 Dave]

You'll find you can spend quite a bit on this, rims in nice sizes cost quite a bit. Motard rims are available from no name suppliers quite cheap, but are only an approximation of round which is ok for dirt but would be a drag on a high speed roadbike. Excel or decent brand name is worth the money. Getting someone to relace can cost quite a bit.

It isn't hard to do if you are replacing like with like & you get the knack of it,

-but change-it-up a little as Kick says it can get interesting & you see where the money goes or make mistakes the hard way.

[ducatilover]

Lacing 'em up is okay, I've done countless push bikes and a few vintage rims.
I might leave it be for now, unless a tasty set pops up for reasonable $$ (yeah right)

[Drew]

unless a tasty set pops up for reasonable $$ (yeah right)
Oh yeah man, you'll have a collection of them since they give them away these days.

[ducatilover]

Oh yeah man, you'll have a collection of them since they give them away these days.
There's enough sarcasm here with just me ya knob

[Drew]

There's enough sarcasm here with just me ya knobShuddup cunt.

[ducatilover]

Shuddup cunt.
Rim bagger

[Drew]

Rim baggerWho started the thread about 'rims'?

[ducatilover]

Who started the thread about 'rims'?
I'm stuck there :facepalm:

[Geeen]

Rim bagger


Who started the thread about 'rims'?


I'm stuck there :facepalm:

Bwahahaha, you guys are funny. Not going to ask where DL is stuck......

[AllanB]

Yep do it. All that shit is a piece of piss if u live in the States. But we don't. There are companies that will make spokes to suit if required over there. You will be able to purchase the rims new on the net. Dirt bike (old school name) shops should have good access to rim suppliers.

[BMWST?]

you may also find that certain rims are set up to be slightly offset from one side,to allow for brake discs, chain lines,shaft drives and so on

[F5 Dave]

Yep do it. All that shit is a piece of piss if u live in the States. But we don't. There are companies that will make spokes to suit if required over there. You will be able to purchase the rims new on the net. Dirt bike (old school name) shops should have good access to rim suppliers.
There are several companied here that do that & quite a few individuals. Spoke rolling tools & reangling doofers aren't expensive. I've had my 18: RS hubs done & the spokes cut down for 17s by a local guy.

Just be aware that everything is x36 parts so labour costs.

[F5 Dave]

you may also find that certain rims are set up to be slightly offset from one side,to allow for brake discs, chain lines,shaft drives and so on

So all you do is measure the offset of the std wheels in the bike. If the rims are wider then subtract 1/2 the extra width. Simple biker math.

You can then build the wheel till it is almost straight, fire it in the sw or forks & move the rim to where it should be. Loosen every 2nd spoke (the ones on the other side) & every other spoke (all the ones on the side you want to move towards. Peeasy.

Haven't dine this since, well last night actually:rolleyes: as I'm upsizing the front rim on my bucket wets.

By far thet huge majority of bikes will have the front in the centre of the forks & the rear will be dead in line. Some Nortons had a queer setup due to a ridiculous compromise, but you're into 40 spokes per wheel with 4 different lengths & other silliness that most sensible manufacturers ignored (yes I know old Kawis ran 40).

Big thing to remember is to separate the inner & outer spokes when pulling apart & build the wheel with inners first. Take a pic but pretty obvious.

[ducatilover]

:2thumbsup Some top class info here, thanks guys

[george formby]

Dredging for some contacts please. I want to get my spare DT 230 wheels laced with 17" rims and go all SM on it.:banana: Anybody able to put me in touch with someone who offers this service?

Cheers.

[unstuck]

I have a couple of spare rear 17 spoked wheels from a 90's xl250????:2thumbsup

[george formby]

Yeah, na.... Cheers. I just want to send the wheels off, get the hubs cleaned & powder coated & 17" rims put on. Maybe new spokes. Followed by a pair of Avon Distanzias & a summer of twisty shenanigans. Only found THIS (http://www.wheelandspoke.co.nz/) on Te google search..

Anymore for anymore.......... puleeease.

[Reckless]

Stumbled across this thread and just out of interest you might be keen for a look at Canyon??
I've just bought some Hagon Piggyback shocks, and progressive springs for the Bonnie from Canyon if you want a few ideas they do some some really nice spoke/Wider rim and mag conversions. Pricey tho??

If you let the slide show go there's some sexy shit in there!
Here http://www.canyonmotorcycles.com/#!tt-custom-series/c156k

Web page here http://www.canyonmotorcycles.com/#!canyon-store/c19pl

Thirst eliminator is a good laugh http://www.canyonmotorcycles.com/#!thirst-eliminator-kit/c1rjg

[unstuck]

Subbled across this thread and just out of interest you might be keen fo a look at Canyon??
I've just bought some Hagon Piggyback shocks, and progressive springs for the Bonnie from Canyon if you want a few ideas they do some some really nice spoke/Wider rim and mag conversions. Pricey tho??



Wish I would have seen that site BEFORE I got the wheels for my trike.:baby:

[sidecar bob]

Ive just had a pair of 3.5X17 & a 5X17 Takasago rims show up for a Pre racer 82 Katana 1100 im building.
The rims have come not drilled. Could anyone shed any light on getting the hole angles correct, or if there is any special equipment required to do this apart from a drill.

[husaberg]

Ive just had a pair of 3.5X17 & a 5X17 Takasago rims show up for a Pre racer 82 Katana 1100 im building.
The rims have come not drilled. Could anyone shed any light on getting the hole angles correct, or if there is any special equipment required to do this apart from a drill.

They are dimpled though?

[ducatilover]

I have a couple of spare rear 17 spoked wheels from a 90's xl250????:2thumbsup

Orly? :cool:
How many spokes are they?

[husaberg]

Orly? :cool:
How many spokes are they?

They tend to be 36 on the 17's for Honda..i know not why........

[sidecar bob]

[R RATED][/R RATED]
They are dimpled though?

Yep, sure are.

[unstuck]

Orly? :cool:
How many spokes are they?

Yep, 36.
I have 2 here.:yes:

[F5 Dave]

Only early Kawasakis and Brit nails have 40. There's probably some old world tool for punching the holes in the right place as there is for angling the inner and outer nipples. Darling.

[husaberg]

Only early Kawasakis and Brit nails have 40. There's probably some old world tool for punching the holes in the right place as there is for angling the inner and outer nipples. Darling.

Hondas played with 32 and I think occasionally lower.
but 65cc and 85cc mx bikes can be 28 and 32 and probably others as well.
I think the Italians were into 40 spokes as well.

[ducatilover]

Yep, 36.
I have 2 here.:yes:

You're more than welcome to ride up here and deliver them. It'll only be a week long trip :sweatdrop

[unstuck]

You're more than welcome to ride up here and deliver them. It'll only be a week long trip :sweatdrop

If only I had a spare few days, I may have. Got too much happening at the moment. My nephew is coming through on his way to Dorkland soon though, will have a yarn to him if ya like.:2thumbsup

[ducatilover]

If only I had a spare few days, I may have. Got too much happening at the moment. My nephew is coming through on his way to Dorkland soon though, will have a yarn to him if ya like.:2thumbsup

Might have to figure out a price and some fuckers will miss out on Xmas pressies :devil2:

[unstuck]

Might have to figure out a price

Fuck off.:msn-wink:

[unstuck]

These are the 2 17's I have dude, will be keeping the tires though for another project.:whistle:

[F5 Dave]

They will be 1.85 or 2.15" wide.

[ducatilover]

Fuck off.:msn-wink: That's what I like to hear :first:


These are the 2 17's I have dude, will be keeping the tires though for another project.:whistle: I like, teh GN doesn't need knobblies :msn-wink:


They will be 1.85 or 2.15" wide.
I'll have to have a look and see what sizes the GN runs, I think a 2.15 would be ideal on the front of it

[george formby]

Well, I'm glad that regurgitating this thread did somebody good.
I took the hump at the resounding silence so bought another bike instead. That's the rim fund gone. And the Chrissy pressie fund. Food & bill payments will be scarce for awhile, too. Really miffed I was.
Just as well I'm a lateral thinker.
Happy again.

[husaberg]

That's what I like to hear :first:

I like, teh GN doesn't need knobblies :msn-wink:


I'll have to have a look and see what sizes the GN runs, I think a 2.15 would be ideal on the front of it

Someone ask Kickaha but I think I remember him saying something about the GN250 front hub being the same as some of the wire spoke Katanas (550?)

[ducatilover]

Well, I'm glad that regurgitating this thread did somebody good.
I took the hump at the resounding silence so bought another bike instead. That's the rim fund gone. And the Chrissy pressie fund. Food & bill payments will be scarce for awhile, too. Really miffed I was.
Just as well I'm a lateral thinker.
Happy again.
:first: Top man

Someone ask Kickaha but I think I remember him saying something about the GN250 front hub being the same as some of the wire spoke Katanas (550?)

Same hub as al the small single and twin disk zukis of the era as far as I know.
I'll measure them up tomorrow at the workshop

[unstuck]

They will be 1.85 or 2.15" wide.

2.15 :niceone:

[ducatilover]

I wonder if I can get something reasonable on to a 2.15? The GN front is 2.3ish

[F5 Dave]

Reasonable knobbly or reasonable road? Rim size stamped on and next size is 2.5 from 2.15

[ducatilover]

Reasonable knobbly or reasonable road? Rim size stamped on and next size is 2.5 from 2.15

Road. I know you can get a sport demon on the original 18 inch front.
I'll have to re-measure. :Police: