Any beekeepers around?

[slofox]

I got bees in the wall of the house.

This dum...err...HOUSE I live in is clad with splitstone. On the south wall there is a gap where the mortar has fallen out. As of earlier this week, that gap has been appropriated by bees. Honey bees.
This is not that serious a problem per se, but it means that if I open the windows on that side of the house, the little bastards invade. And with those windows closed, the house gets stinkin' hot, now that the weather is warming.

I could dump carbaryl powder in the hole and kill 'em all, but given that bees are some new kind of threatened species nowadays what with varroa etc, I'd prefer not to deal death upon them if possible.

So I was wondering if we might be able to lure 'em all out and take 'em to someone's bee farm. Preferably without demolishing the house wall...

Wotcha reckon?

[jim.cox]

Ole mama Queen Bee aint going to come out without persuasion.

You could dismantle the wall

But realistically, in your situation there's not much alternative to carbryl

[Maha]

Ed Hil..........no wait..as you were :corn:

[Banditbandit]

I got bees in the wall of the house.

This dum...err...HOUSE I live in is clad with splitstone. On the south wall there is a gap where the mortar has fallen out. As of earlier this week, that gap has been appropriated by bees. Honey bees.
This is not that serious a problem per se, but it means that if I open the windows on that side of the house, the little bastards invade. And with those windows closed, the house gets stinkin' hot, now that the weather is warming.

I could dump carbaryl powder in the hole and kill 'em all, but given that bees are some new kind of threatened species nowadays what with varroa etc, I'd prefer not to deal death upon them if possible.

So I was wondering if we might be able to lure 'em all out and take 'em to someone's bee farm. Preferably without demolishing the house wall...

Wotcha reckon?

Wait a while then collect the honey ...

[Road kill]

Either you or they,are fucked.

Drill a small hole through the wall from inside the house then empty a can of Raid into it through a drinking straw.

End of story,,for them.

Or place your bed against that wall and enjoy the heat generated by the little buggers while their never ending buzzzzzzz puts you to sleep each night.

[SMOKEU]

Collect the honey and make some mead.

[Usarka]

Collect the honey and make some mead.

Sweeeeeet.

[slofox]

Ole mama Queen Bee aint going to come out without persuasion.

You could dismantle the wall

But realistically, in your situation there's not much alternative to carbryl

That's what I thought I guess...I could always wait for the varroa to destroy them for me I suppose...


Wait a while then collect the honey ...


Collect the honey and make some mead.

Thought of both of these...

[SMOKEU]

Maybe you could buy/build some hives and attempt to relocate them somewhere in the yard.

[unstuck]

Chances are not good for saving the colony unless you can entice the queen out. She may decide to move on once the weather warms up, you could put a conventional beehive next to the hole in the wall and integrate the two colonys,as long as there is a good healthy queen in the hive you place there. Most beekepers would not worry about collecting this swarm, but you could try hobbiest beekeepers. I would come and put a nuc box next to it if you were a lot closer.:niceone:

[Swoop]

Sit outside with some buttered toast...?

[phill-k]

I got bees in the wall of the house.

This dum...err...HOUSE I live in is clad with splitstone. On the south wall there is a gap where the mortar has fallen out. As of earlier this week, that gap has been appropriated by bees. Honey bees.
This is not that serious a problem per se, but it means that if I open the windows on that side of the house, the little bastards invade. And with those windows closed, the house gets stinkin' hot, now that the weather is warming.

I could dump carbaryl powder in the hole and kill 'em all, but given that bees are some new kind of threatened species nowadays what with varroa etc, I'd prefer not to deal death upon them if possible.

So I was wondering if we might be able to lure 'em all out and take 'em to someone's bee farm. Preferably without demolishing the house wall...

Wotcha reckon?

I keep bees, the only way to remove them is physically - dismantle walls or whatever to cut out the comb & remove the queen and bees and relocating them. Ideally that is what is preferable, however if this approach will cause to much damage you will need to kill the swarm and then close up the entrance as other bees will be attracted to the location.

[Grumph]

I keep bees, the only way to remove them is physically - dismantle walls or whatever to cut out the comb & remove the queen and bees and relocating them. Ideally that is what is preferable, however if this approach will cause to much damage you will need to kill the swarm and then close up the entrance as other bees will be attracted to the location.

In your experience is there anything which will make them abandon the nest ? Noise - low frequency or ultrasonics ? Heavy metal ?
Cliff Richard ? Low temp - cold air blown in ? A harley backed up to the wall ?
i suspect dismantling is not an option...

[Rhys]

Bee careful about poisoning them, if they die inside the wall they start to stink, also if you get stung by one that has been poisoned it can make you quite sick (been there done that)

[phill-k]

In your experience is there anything which will make them abandon the nest ? Noise - low frequency or ultrasonics ? Heavy metal ?
Cliff Richard ? Low temp - cold air blown in ? A harley backed up to the wall ?
i suspect dismantling is not an option...

Haven't been keeping bees that long, however having a basic understanding as to how a hive works, the queen is the key to their existence, she dies they create a new one, run out of room the old girl leaves with many of the workers after the hive has created new queen cells and thus a new queen.

In reality if I was dealing with this, and I don't like to see the death of bees but such is the need, I would wait for the next very fine day, mid afternoon most of the workers will be out gathering, puff carbyl or some such into the opening and then seal it, the returning workers will be a problem for the next 24hrs or so. The honey and wax comb is pretty much inert and the remaining bees will will just disintegrate, can't really see their be much smell.

Sure as eggs though given the right environment the hive will grow and grow, problem won't go away until next winter although as mentioned varroa could bring a premature end to the colony.

[Usarka]

Bees are good,bees are good
theres bees in ya wood



I don't expect anyone to get that. Sigh.

[ellipsis]

...life on the planet...killing them and blocking their entry is the only cheap option...will smell as bad as two dead rats or a small dead possum for as long as it takes... been a call out emergency chippy type operation for as long as i've been one...very few people opt for dismantling things...one wasp nest i took out of a house roof cavity once, was three meters wide by two, and three hundred ml deep...a lot of kilos of weight...they never heard them but the seldom used room was always warmer than the rest of the house, the owners told me...

[Akzle]

In your experience is there anything which will make them abandon the nest ? Noise - low frequency or ultrasonics ? Heavy metal ?
Cliff Richard ? Low temp - cold air blown in ? A harley backed up to the wall ?
i suspect dismantling is not an option...

cellular radiation... (http://inhabitat.com/its-official-cell-phones-are-killing-bees/)

[Banditbandit]

Thought of both of these...

And .. ???

[slofox]

And .. ???

Getting the honey out of there...if I could do that I could get rid of the bees.

[unstuck]

Probably not enough honey in the hive to worry about, but if you leave it long enough and there is enough space it will certainly grow. :devil2:

[Road kill]

Maybe you could buy/build some hives and attempt to relocate them somewhere in the yard.

Wouldn't work,their pretty fucked after the Raid.

[SMOKEU]

Wouldn't work,their pretty fucked after the Raid.

No need to be a buzz kill.

[SMOKEU]

Bees are good,bees are good
theres bees in ya wood



I don't expect anyone to get that. Sigh.

I still don't get it after a quick Google search.