Third World NZ

[Usarka]

I like travelling, going to a country and looking at how other people live. The markets where everyone buys those cheap casio watches that we had in the 80's, or pulls a horse and cart because cheap supply of cars isn't a reality yet and they get paid the equivalent of one banana per hour. Haha you stupid backwards bastards.

So I'm sitting in prosperous NZ trying to buy some digital music online. Itunes says "sure, but only this AAC format which on your non-apple stereo is the equivalent of a cassette tape that's been high speed dubbed 20 times", and every other place I can find it says "sorry, you live in a backwards shithole we can't sell it to you".

So I'm actually going to a record shop today (if I can find one) to see if they have the music equivalent of an 80's casio watch - a thing called a CD. If this fails I'll don my pirate hat and be a criminal and steal from those overseas arse wipes. People in developed countries must be rofling and tut tutting in equal doses. Rich fuckers, suck my cock.

[James Deuce]

JB Hi-Fi or the Warehouse - that's it!

[SMOKEU]

So I'm sitting in prosperous NZ trying to buy some digital music online. Itunes says "sure, but only this AAC format which on your non-apple stereo is the equivalent of a cassette tape that's been high speed dubbed 20 times", and every other place I can find it says "sorry, you live in a backwards shithole we can't sell it to you".


Serves you right for dealing with Apple. Try www.torrents.to

You can thank me later.

[Swoop]

As James Deuce says... Jb Hi-Fi.

A CD can be even cheaper than the same album from itunes.

[jim.cox]

A CD can be even cheaper than the same album from itunes.

And you get to actually OWN it

[Swoop]

And you get to actually OWN it

Also, you avoid giving apple any money, which is a good thing.

[mashman]

Make sure you get the ones with added crackle/static... it almost sounds like yer listening to an LP.

[jim.cox]

Make sure you get the ones with added crackle/static... it almost sounds like yer listening to an LP.

If you're lucky it will include a lyric sheet so you can sing along...

And dont forget to make a tape so you can play it on your Walkman

[mashman]

If you're lucky it will include a lyric sheet so you can sing along...

And dont forget to make a tape so you can play it on your Walkman

Sleeve lyrics, heh, way to torture the parents whilst balancing 12 tonne headphones on yer heed.

[Gremlin]

Youtube...

Youtube to MP3

[neels]

Youtube...

Youtube to MP3
Or get your mate to sing it down a cardboard tube and record it on your cellphone. About the same audio quality.

I still buy cd's because I'm a luddite, but as was pointed out at a concert I went to the other day, when was the last time you saw someone selling a signed mp3 on ebay?

I signed up for itunes and in a small effort at skewing their user stats put my age at 86 years old, it told me I didn't meet the age requirements.

[Usarka]

JB's was the plan, but we still have real groovy in auckland cbd if i feel like putting the saddle on the horse and venturing into that ghost town....


Serves you right for dealing with Apple. Try www.torrents.to

You can thank me later.

That's the fall back plan if i can't find the cd and buy it legally.

The record companies will call me a thief, and then say fuck off nob cheese you live in Neuvo Zealandia you must be a chilli eating immigrant wannabe so get your filthy labourers mits off our records. Facists.

[SMOKEU]

JB's was the plan, but we still have real groovy in auckland cbd if i feel like putting the saddle on the horse and venturing into that ghost town....



That's the fall back plan if i can't find the cd and buy it legally.

The record companies will call me a thief, and then say fuck off nob cheese you live in Neuvo Zealandia you must be a chilli eating immigrant wannabe so get your filthy labourers mits off our records. Facists.

That's what a VPN or torrent proxy is for. The money you save can be spent on fuel for the bike. Now that's smart thinking.

[Edbear]

JB's was the plan, but we still have real groovy in auckland cbd if i feel like putting the saddle on the horse and venturing into that ghost town....



That's the fall back plan if i can't find the cd and buy it legally.

The record companies will call me a thief, and then say fuck off nob cheese you live in Neuvo Zealandia you must be a chilli eating immigrant wannabe so get your filthy labourers mits off our records. Facists.

Real Groovy is a regular call for us whenever we go to Kangnam Station for dinner. It would be a real shame if it were to close down, but it seems to be popular enough.

[Usarka]

Real Groovy is a regular call for us whenever we go to Kangnam Station for dinner. It would be a real shame if it were to close down, but it seems to be popular enough.

is that one of those korean joints? I've been to a few (don't know their names) and they're usually a good feed....

The money saved = a cd up the road at groovy.

[Edbear]

is that one of those korean joints? I've been to a few (don't know their names) and they're usually a good feed....

The money saved = a cd up the road at groovy.

Yup! Kangnam is down on the corner of Mayoral and one of our favourite restaurants! Great food, great price, friendly staff, (the boss is a hoot!), and just a short stroll up to Real Groovy, one of our favourite shops in the CBD! :niceone:

[Ocean1]

And you get to actually OWN it

I've payed for most of my collection several times, through purchases of the same material on several different media, over several decades.

I already own it, why the fuck should I pay for it yet again?

[Big Dave]

I'd answer you - but I'm updating the OS on my iPad.

[Gremlin]

And you get to actually OWN it


I already own it, why the fuck should I pay for it yet again?

I'd double check the licence you're actually getting. You probably don't OWN it, but have a licence for that copy... something like that.

Also, the way NZ copyright laws are, if you buy a CD then copy to your PC, you're actually breaking the law, as you are not allowed to duplicate at all...

Crazy... but that's the way it is.

[James Deuce]

I've payed for most of my collection several times, through purchases of the same material on several different media, over several decades.

I already own it, why the fuck should I pay for it yet again?

Yes, exactly and that's where an ethical distribution model would allow current owners to follow an industry format shift and additional expense.

Excuse me, I have to check in to hospital in case my aneurysm just popped from laughing so hard.

[mashman]

Yes, exactly and that's where an ethical distribution model would allow current owners to follow an industry format shift and additional expense.

Excuse me, I have to check in to hospital in case my aneurysm just popped from laughing so hard.

Isn't that what cables and burnable/copyable devices are for? I have a few LP's on "disc"

[Usarka]

Well...... JB and the ware whare both didn't have the 2 cd's I was looking for. To be fair both are indie/alternate, but far from being unknown. Checked real groovy online, they didn't have either (not sure if they put their full stock online or not).

So I'm officially unable to buy this shit in New Zealand in an open format that can be played on a non-apple device.

The cunts won't let me buy their shit. And they complain when people pirate stuff.

[James Deuce]

Isn't that what cables and burnable/copyable devices are for? I have a few LP's on "disc"
That's not a distribution model, that's a cottage industry.

[James Deuce]

Well...... JB and the ware whare both didn't have the 2 cd's I was looking for. To be fair both are indie/alternate, but far from being unknown. Checked real groovy online, they didn't have either (not sure if they put their full stock online or not).

So I'm officially unable to buy this shit in New Zealand in an open format that can be played on a non-apple device.

The cunts won't let me buy their shit. And they complain when people pirate stuff.
Oh no, the artist will miss out on money!

I still reckon that the music industry is run by Mr Krabs. It smacks of his "money at any cost" and "screw the productive labour over" approach to business.

[mashman]

That's not a distribution model, that's a cottage industry.

Indeedy it could be, but it was meaning that ya don't have to buy it again and again if you transfer it from media to media. Short term cost, long term gain.

[James Deuce]

Indeedy it could be, but it was meaning that ya don't have to buy it again and again if you transfer it from media to media. Short term cost, long term gain.
No. You're still spending money on something you already bought. Format changes are simply a tool to increase revenue on back catalogue. Develop an industry standard, squash the inevitable competitors, use the squashing to build the hype until consumers feel they HAVE to migrate.

[imdying]

The cunts won't let me buy their shit. And they complain when people pirate stuff.Yep, that sums it up.

They've always colluded on pricing, and used protectionist policies... and for ages that's just the way it was. The brouhaha in the last decade has mostly been had the recording industries stubborn attitude towards moving into the global economy at it's heart. But, as they have witnessed, people could give two shits about outdated laws used to engineer a monopoly. I expect that at some stage a major player will break ranks and move into the real world... but they'll need a pretty tight strategy that forces the others to follow suit (or bow out), otherwise they'll be ostracised, marginalised, and run out of business.

[Gremlin]

Well...... JB and the ware whare both didn't have the 2 cd's I was looking for. To be fair both are indie/alternate, but far from being unknown. Checked real groovy online, they didn't have either (not sure if they put their full stock online or not).

So I'm officially unable to buy this shit in New Zealand in an open format that can be played on a non-apple device.

The cunts won't let me buy their shit. And they complain when people pirate stuff.
Marbecks??

[Usarka]

Marbecks??

Legend. One of the albums out of stock, but both are on mp3. Lossy, but better than nothing. Didn't realise they were still going and/or doing digital.

Chur bro. :niceone:

[merv]

I'd answer you - but I'm updating the OS on my iPad.

You Apple Fanboi you :laugh:

[mashman]

No. You're still spending money on something you already bought. Format changes are simply a tool to increase revenue on back catalogue. Develop an industry standard, squash the inevitable competitors, use the squashing to build the hype until consumers feel they HAVE to migrate.

Fair enough... buts I doos lubs technology.

[madandy]

I like travelling, going to a country and looking at how other people live. The markets where everyone buys those cheap casio watches that we had in the 80's, or pulls a horse and cart because cheap supply of cars isn't a reality yet and they get paid the equivalent of one banana per hour. Haha you stupid backwards bastards.

So I'm sitting in prosperous NZ trying to buy some digital music online. Itunes says "sure, but only this AAC format which on your non-apple stereo is the equivalent of a cassette tape that's been high speed dubbed 20 times", and every other place I can find it says "sorry, you live in a backwards shithole we can't sell it to you".

So I'm actually going to a record shop today (if I can find one) to see if they have the music equivalent of an 80's casio watch - a thing called a CD. If this fails I'll don my pirate hat and be a criminal and steal from those overseas arse wipes. People in developed countries must be rofling and tut tutting in equal doses. Rich fuckers, suck my cock.

My non apple stereo has no trouble playing my itunes music in good quality. The output volume is lower from an ipad or ipod etc but once burnt to disc it improves as the cd player ouput is far greater and the quality ok. Better, in fact than some licensed cd's I have.

[240]

Mate lets be honest anything compressed and downloaded sounds like shit.Go vinyl it's back with a vengeance!!

[Genestho]

Mate lets be honest anything compressed and downloaded sounds like shit.Go vinyl it's back with a vengeance!!
Yep, I agree. Have bought a few vinyls to add to my old collection, rather than CD's lately. Can't beat the authenticity of that sound!