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White trash
14th November 2012, 07:38
Yummy yummy yummy. Yes fucking please.
When it starts, Jimmy gets wood.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Lj3Ol4ol2tg
Gremlin
14th November 2012, 10:50
Yeah... the 990 wasn't mental enough aye? :sweatdrop
Looks like two exhausts... hopefully akrapovic doesn't sting you for two :eek5:
White trash
15th November 2012, 06:46
Fuck KTM make cool promo videos.
Check it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h1e9oulMd8
Ocean1
15th November 2012, 07:35
Yeah... the 990 wasn't mental enough aye? :sweatdrop
Aye, the two models that least need moar power get the new mill.
And I'm gutted there's no 1290 SMT.
White trash
15th November 2012, 08:39
Aye, the two models that least need moar power get the new mill.
And I'm gutted there's no 1290 SMT.
Yet. Give 'em time man, it's only a little company.
And it could be argued that the 1190 Adventure T fills the gap left by the SM/T in the interim anyway.
Geeen
15th November 2012, 17:51
Fuck KTM make cool promo videos.
Check it.
:eek: GollyDarnGosh that looks like fun!:drool:
Might be more fun than the V4 Tuono...
Ocean1
15th November 2012, 18:50
And it could be argued that the 1190 Adventure T fills the gap left by the SM/T in the interim anyway.
Not very successfully though. At least not for me.
I must admit I haven't sampled an SMT in anger, I've had a go on two 990ADVs and a couple of Superdukes, though. I can't see a bigger ADV as anything other than a purely commercialy driven tap on the big advbike fettish market, and that doesn't make any sense to me either.
An 1190 SD makes sense, but they're a small bike, smaller than the Buell, and they don't fit me very well. So even if the new KTM mill is a match for the 1125 It'll be a starter for me only if they've scaled it up to full size.
MrKiwi
15th November 2012, 18:53
Fuck KTM make cool promo videos.
Check it.
That reminds me very much of a promo of a rally car driver in a subaru - same start, same approach to the promo. Excellent both times...
ktm84mxc
16th November 2012, 07:32
I'm sure you could move the pegs and fit higher bars and also KTM should have a hi seat option, all little things to get a bike to fit.
My fav was the super enduro those ADV just looked to big and heavy, and if they can get around Erzberg that's gotta be the clincher.
FlangMasterJ
16th November 2012, 22:12
I want that bike!
Scouse
17th November 2012, 06:16
Not a lot of 990 plus KTM's for sale on tardme these days bit of a shame realy
Usarka
17th November 2012, 07:31
I would die on the test ride.
\m/
17th November 2012, 07:33
http://blogtotheoldskool.com/blog/images/do-want-squirell.jpg
Owl
17th November 2012, 08:26
I like:drool:
AllanB
26th December 2012, 18:23
I find myself bored with a lot of the new release motorcycles. Not that I have the coin for a new ride I just squeeze the family wallet for bits and bobs to personalise the Hornet year after year ......
But - this concept bike is not far off a actual production version - add turn signals, plate etc and .....
I like. Darn shame the tyres would not end up like that in my hands but one can dream. I even like the wheel paint.
Now what would it look like in Black and silver ......
Bling444
5th January 2013, 19:10
Enough said
dangerous
5th January 2013, 20:58
Yummy yummy yummy. Yes fucking pleaseThe Duke I saw today would me more you and the closest ya get to having one... $8k for the KTM200 Duke 275669
White trash
20th July 2013, 09:06
So who's got one on order? Anyone?
Here's a video of The Beast at Goodwood festival of speed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk_cV6VLTTY&feature=youtu.be
White trash
20th July 2013, 09:14
If you haven't already, follow the link to see images of the production bike. Obviously lose the Stars and Stripes, chuck an Akrapovic muffler on it and you've got a bike very similar to the prototype. Judging by the performance of the 1190 Adventure, an easy 160hp + is on the cards. I'm going to go find me some Ducatis to murder when this thing gets here :D
http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2013/07/production-ktm-1290-superduke-r-pictures-released/
And of course why has no one put the original Beast Released video up yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h1e9oulMd8
Gremlin
20th July 2013, 13:36
So who's got one on order? Anyone?
Here's a video of The Beast at Goodwood festival of speed.
That thing looks like a total handful (read a hell of a laugh) with a 1290... fark :crazy:
AllanB
20th July 2013, 13:51
I have a Lotto ticket .........
Who imports KTM....probably the same ones who import Triumph, Aprilia ..........
White trash
20th July 2013, 14:36
I have a Lotto ticket .........
Who imports KTM....probably the same ones who import Triumph, Aprilia ..........
Wash your fucking mouth out.
Ocean1
20th July 2013, 16:47
So who's got one on order? Anyone?
Where's my fucking 1290 SMT?!!!
White trash
20th July 2013, 17:33
Where's my fucking 1290 SMT?!!!
As I tell everyone, an 1190 Adventure T handles every bit as well, if not better than the old SM-T, has shitloads better fuel economy, is more refined, heaps faster and infinitely more comfortable. AND if you point it down a gravel road it doesn't behave like it's on roller skates.
ktm84mxc
20th July 2013, 21:22
AllanB go wash your mouth with petrol , KTM in NZ have always been a stand alone company go back to the days of Minotaur Imports in the late 70's and early 80's. KTM NZ is now owned in part by KTM Auss and KTM AG in Austria .
AllanB
20th July 2013, 21:42
Bawahahaha. Good to know re KTM importers - I'd love one of em nakeds, but have to sell a kidney to cover it so after sale support is important!
Looks sweet. Has the potential to blow all the other nakeds away.
Any ideal Jimmy when said Beast might reach our sunny and still shores
White trash
23rd July 2013, 08:49
Looks sweet. Has the potential to blow all the other nakeds away.
Any ideal Jimmy when said Beast might reach our sunny and still shores
Apparently, as early as Jan/Feb for the first NZ arrivals mate.
MD
25th August 2013, 19:25
Stumbled onto this new clip (24/08/2013) of what appears to be the new 1290R Duke dishing it out to a BMW S1000R. The Beemer rider isn't a slug either, but holy shit for a fully naked bike to hang in on the straights with the top of the superbikes is unheard of. Then the KTM wins it in the bends.
Hard to get a decent look at the Duke except at 3.50s and the closing seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XSmGebxiG8
White trash
26th August 2013, 08:59
Stumbled onto this new clip (24/08/2013) of what appears to be the new 1290R Duke dishing it out to a BMW S1000R. The Beemer rider isn't a slug either, but holy shit for a fully naked bike to hang in on the straights with the top of the superbikes is unheard of. Then the KTM wins it in the bends.
Hard to get a decent look at the Duke except at 3.50s and the closing seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XSmGebxiG8
Nice find mate, I shared that on the TSS Facebook page. The KTM looks particularly good on the brakes and through the turns. I wonder if that's McWilliams riding it?
Geeen
26th August 2013, 17:43
MY GOSH THATS A WEAPON!! Definitely sit well in the shed next to the wifeys 390 on the "I Wish" list.
MD
2nd October 2013, 07:04
Stunning ! KTM released full details and production pictures etc today.
The stats speak for themselves. I would love one of these...it's a plan.
180hp 144nm 189kg and for me the good news was in the one area I expected them to cock up, like so many new models are these days, tiny fuel tank. Nope, 18l and claims of very good economy. This is shaping up to a real do it all bike. And it's a good looker.
White trash
2nd October 2013, 08:53
Check out www.1290superduker.com for updates as they come through, about 15 hours until the next release.
avgas
2nd October 2013, 10:44
New scooters for the Tauranga Massive then?
Dogboy900
2nd October 2013, 10:58
I am betting Akrapovic do a roaring trade in new exhausts for this! The bike looks sweet, the exhaust... Not so much :(
nzspokes
2nd October 2013, 11:45
When do they get here?
george formby
2nd October 2013, 11:48
I am betting Akrapovic do a roaring trade in new exhausts for this! The bike looks sweet, the exhaust... Not so much :(
Akrapovic, a "roaring" trade.. That's crever. Unpunintended I should tink.:banana:
Dogboy900
2nd October 2013, 12:34
Akrapovic, a "roaring" trade.. That's crever. Unpunintended I should tink.:banana:
I didn't even see that :facepalm:
Must be getting old :(
Gremlin
2nd October 2013, 14:14
...the good news was in the one area I expected them to cock up, like so many new models are these days, tiny fuel tank. Nope, 18l and claims of very good economy.
Uh, that's KTM talking... my KTM wasn't economical until 6th gear... and that needed 120kph+ <_< Ride it like it's intended (you won't have a choice, you'll just want to) and the economy will get even worse...
I am betting Akrapovic do a roaring trade in new exhausts for this! The bike looks sweet, the exhaust... Not so much :(
Wait till you see the price for the akra...
Not liking the headlight shape, doesn't seem to quite look right to me. Would be mental fun to ride though...
White trash
2nd October 2013, 16:14
Uh, that's KTM talking... my KTM wasn't economical until 6th gear... and that needed 120kph+ <_< Ride it like it's intended (you won't have a choice, you'll just want to) and the economy will get even worse...
Wait till you see the price for the akra...
Not liking the headlight shape, doesn't seem to quite look right to me. Would be mental fun to ride though...
1190 Adventure, 2 up, full luggage, fully loaded for 4500km around Europe with some fairly high speed stuff, averaged 17.5km/L. Pretty good I thought.
Paulo
4th October 2013, 08:44
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8heeP16TIc
say goodbye to your license : )
george formby
4th October 2013, 09:12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8heeP16TIc
say goodbye to your license : )
I wonder if Bosslady has her name down for one?:whistle:
Ocean1
4th October 2013, 09:40
I am betting Akrapovic do a roaring trade in new exhausts for this! The bike looks sweet, the exhaust... Not so much :(
I was going to disagree, but I see they've changed from the prototype underslung muffler to a more conventional rig.
I don't much like the new one either...
nudemetalz
4th October 2013, 10:58
I love the two-tone wheels and high exhaust of the prototype compared to this. Wonder why they toned it down?
To keep with the 125/200/390 family look perhaps?
Personally, if I bought one I'd "prototype" it.
Ocean1
4th October 2013, 17:01
Personally, if I bought one I'd "prototype" it.
Me too. After the swelling went down a bit from the thrashing 'er indoors would give me.
I like the RC8 style exhaust, could never understand hanging the plumbing out in the breeze like that.
Glowerss
7th October 2013, 12:34
Me too. After the swelling went down a bit from the thrashing 'er indoors would give me.
I like the RC8 style exhaust, could never understand hanging the plumbing out in the breeze like that.
Noise and emission regulations at a guess. The prototype was fkn LOUD. Sounded amazing, but I'm guessing probably didn't meet nanny state standards :spanking:
Drew
7th October 2013, 14:55
Me too. After the swelling went down a bit from the thrashing 'er indoors would give me.
I like the RC8 style exhaust, could never understand hanging the plumbing out in the breeze like that.Because nomatter what that ballbag Eric Buell says, it's better for engine tuning to have a bit more midpipe.
Even the GP bikes run the pipes up the side, that should probably give some clue that it's the best way to do things.
Ocean1
7th October 2013, 16:02
Noise and emission regulations at a guess. The prototype was fkn LOUD. Sounded amazing, but I'm guessing probably didn't meet nanny state standards :spanking:
Yet, as I said the RC8 manages essentially the same engine, fully road compliant, (and in fact quite mellow) with an underslung zorst.
Because nomatter what that ballbag Eric Buell says, it's better for engine tuning to have a bit more midpipe.
Even the GP bikes run the pipes up the side, that should probably give some clue that it's the best way to do things.
Yeah, that'd make sense, if say an XB12 had less effective resonant pipe length than, say an RF900. It doesn't.
See, the way everyone else does shit is NEVER the best way. Not ever. They just don't know any better until some know-nothin' ballbag shows them how.
Buell wern't the first to do it, by the way. But it's interesting to see all the market-driven cookie cutter sprotsbikes following suite for no better reason than the fact that it sells bikes.
Drew
7th October 2013, 16:32
Yeah, that'd make sense, if say an XB12 had less effective resonant pipe length than, say an RF900. It doesn't.So, the Buell is making the same power per cube, as an RF? Not a chance, even if you wanna use the CR for comparison.
See, the way everyone else does shit is NEVER the best way. Not ever. They just don't know any better until some know-nothin' ballbag shows them how.Really, because both Yamaha and Honda use differnt length and diameter pipe for different tracks and tunes. Pretty confident they've tried to go as short as possible, if for nothing but weight saving.
Buell wern't the first to do it, by the way. But it's interesting to see all the market-driven cookie cutter sprotsbikes following suite for no better reason than the fact that it sells bikes.Which Japanese manufacturer is making sports bikes with 10 kilo, gigantic heat boxes under the sump?
nzspokes
7th October 2013, 16:48
Buell wern't the first to do it, by the way. But it's interesting to see all the market-driven cookie cutter sprotsbikes following suite for no better reason than the fact that it sells bikes.
That would be why there not in business anymore.
Ocean1
7th October 2013, 19:28
So, the Buell is making the same power per cube, as an RF? Not a chance, even if you wanna use the CR for comparison.
Dunno, haven't checked.... You peeked didn't ya? :laugh: The RF by a whisker.
Can I do one now? Does the RF make the same torque at 40% revs as it does at 80%?
Hey, this is fun. What's the RF's HP/KG?
But none of that has much to do with pipe lengths, or how best to package it to optimise mass, does it? What I meant is that although it might look like a conventional rig has more pipe length than an under-frame zorst it's not safe to bet on it, both Buell and Ducati have systems with multi-pass pipes down there, probably others too. Buell's most basic version changes lengths to match revs.
Really, because both Yamaha and Honda use differnt length and diameter pipe for different tracks and tunes. Pretty confident they've tried to go as short as possible, if for nothing but weight saving.
I don't doubt it. And I wasn't suggesting that they should copy a system from a road bike. Just that there's a better way to do their zorsts. There's better ways to do everything, dude, and if you doubt that then come back in 5 years and show me how Yamaha and Honda zorsts are exactly the same as they are now.
Progress. Can't beat it.
Which Japanese manufacturer is making sports bikes with 10 kilo, gigantic heat boxes under the sump?
What, your google all broke? There's no under-framed Japanese bike zorsts? They're all hanging 10 kilo gigantic heat boxes off the side of their machines?
Could've sworn there was a Kwaka around here a while ago...
I guess the point I was trying to make, mate is that almost every design element common amongst production bikes of a couple of decades ago were sub-optimal. So are today's. Which is why it's never safe to laugh at the weird shit, eh?
Ocean1
7th October 2013, 19:33
That would be why there not in business anymore.
Well they certainly failed to make bikes like those the Japanese and Europeans were selling.
But that's not why they're not in business anymore.
AllanB
7th October 2013, 20:18
Meh Buell ...... so yesterday.
Lots of ideas ............ some good ..... some......... A bit of an obsessive.
That front braking system really took off - if there was a big advantage they would be on the GP bikes.
The KTM's wheels are not like the prototype due to production costs - too expensive to do all that masking for a production bike. They are most likely saving them for the limited edition 'factory' version. It will also have a Avro titanium exhaust system ....
Maybe carbon fibre wheels ..... to make it lighter!
Drew
8th October 2013, 05:31
Well they certainly failed to make bikes like those the Japanese and Europeans were selling.
But that's not why they're not in business anymore.Buell shutting down seems to have been due to Harley management more than not making a profit.
I understand that there are better ways to do nearly everything. I just think that when it comes to exhaust, what the GP bikes have is best suited to current engine designs.
Ocean1
8th October 2013, 07:25
Buell shutting down seems to have been due to Harley management more than not making a profit.
Yeah. There's an old saying: keep your friends close, and your enemies closer. The yanks invented the strategy of buying into your competition and then shutting them down. They shouldn't have bothered, Buell was never going to make bikes to compete with road king sales.
I understand that there are better ways to do nearly everything. I just think that when it comes to exhaust, what the GP bikes have is best suited to current engine designs.
I'd say current GP exhaust designs are best suited to GP bikes under the current rules, given current budgets.
Which isn't really the same thing as the best design for a sprotsbike compliant to a completely different set of rules, with the design posibilities mass production facilities make possible.
I'm not blowing Buell's trumpet. Much. He did some good work, and made some poor choices. But the thing is he didn't simply copy everyone else's designs, which are mostly driven by the marketing requirement to look like a GP bike and be as cheap to make as possible. When it comes to exhausts, given current engine designs with cartrige gearboxes, long swingarms and higher mass centers I think the best place for an exhaust is in that space available under the sump between the wheels.
The new superduke uses that space well, I just like their first effort better.
PS: you really shoulda taken the CR for a wee pootle while I still had it, mate, that engine is in my book best in class.
In spite of the fucking ugly muffler.
Owl
12th October 2013, 08:29
Price to be confirmed......at $30k?:mellow:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-646692863.htm
sil3nt
12th October 2013, 10:32
Price to be confirmed......at $30k?:mellow:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-646692863.htm30k was what I was expecting. Deposit for a house or a bike that will ensure I don't live long enough to own a house :confused:
carbonhed
21st November 2013, 15:16
Jeremy McWilliams schooling the bike press.
http://youtu.be/cgaVzBrGNuM
Riddler
27th January 2014, 22:07
Not a lot of 990 plus KTM's for sale on tardme these days bit of a shame realy
thats cause once you own one, you'll ride it till its dead. Well that's what I intend to do with mine, I just love it that much.:yes:
Kendoll
28th January 2014, 10:46
thats cause once you own one, you'll ride it till its dead. Well that's what I intend to do with mine, I just love it that much.:yes:
Ditto that!
Gremlin
28th January 2014, 19:09
thats cause once you own one, you'll ride it till its dead. Well that's what I intend to do with mine, I just love it that much.:yes:
My old bike I believe?
Love that you're enjoying it :Punk:
Owl
9th February 2014, 12:01
Saw the 1290 Superduke at AFC yesterday.
Very very nice bit of kit indeed! Only 3 complaints really....1# No preload adjustment on the forks??? 2# Oil cooler looks like an afterthought, but I'm sure quite functional. 3# New tail-tidy required, but that's normal.
Really looking forward to seeing the black one in a couple of weeks.:2thumbsup
Riddler
9th February 2014, 16:19
My old bike I believe?
Love that you're enjoying it :Punk:
Hey,
Ya mate, the regulator rectifier shit itself last year and I have just put a new chain and sprocket on it but apart from that it just keeps clocking up the miles and peeling rubber off the tyres, not missing a beat. How's the big BMW going for you so far?
Gremlin
9th February 2014, 18:49
Ya mate, the regulator rectifier shit itself last year and I have just put a new chain and sprocket on it but apart from that it just keeps clocking up the miles and peeling rubber off the tyres, not missing a beat. How's the big BMW going for you so far?
Woah, never expected modern bikes to continue having reg rec issues, but there you. The gearing on it wasn't stock, not sure if you knew, as it made 6th unusable below 120-130kph...
BMW is great, put even more km on it than the KTM (83k clicks in 3 odd years).
Still miss the mental aspect of the KTM... BMW and all it's electronics is more... reserved. <_<
angle
10th February 2014, 09:23
thats cause once you own one, you'll ride it till its dead. Well that's what I intend to do with mine, I just love it that much.:yes:
Is it though because it's a KTM or because it's a V-twin? What is servicing like?
Oscar
10th February 2014, 09:35
Aye, the two models that least need moar power get the new mill.
And I'm gutted there's no 1290 SMT.
I would hazard a guess that the "ordinary" adventure model, which has a 19/17 wheel set up, is so close to the SMT that they might not bother.
Yamahardman
10th February 2014, 17:37
I love it, looks super cool, and sounds awesome too!
Riddler
10th February 2014, 17:58
Woah, never expected modern bikes to continue having reg rec issues, but there you. The gearing on it wasn't stock, not sure if you knew, as it made 6th unusable below 120-130kph...
BMW is great, put even more km on it than the KTM (83k clicks in 3 odd years).
Still miss the mental aspect of the KTM... BMW and all it's electronics is more... reserved. <_<
Good to hear you're liking the BMW. I had heard from others the gearing on them was higher for the European roads. I didn't know it was geared higher than it is now, not surprised you changed it. If you'd like to see the old girl again, and I often attend the ATNR and the odd NASS rides. I'd also like to see your BMW and no doubt all the mods BMW riders add.
Riddler
10th February 2014, 18:12
Is it though because it's a KTM or because it's a V-twin? What is servicing like?
As quoted by Gremlin further up the page KTM's have a certain mental aspect about them. As the UK site MCN have stated in many of their youtube vids, KTMs are the "ultimate hooligan machine" I demo'd several different bikes before I bought my 990SM including the Ducati street fighter which is a vtwin. I was sold on the KTM for several reasons it suited my size being tall(upright seating position) it suits the NZ roads and it looks and sounds good.
Kick your leg over one, you'll see where I'm coming from.
Service is 7500kms (minor) 15000 kms (more in depth) intervals and comparable to other european brands for cost.
Ocean1
10th February 2014, 20:09
I would hazard a guess that the "ordinary" adventure model, which has a 19/17 wheel set up, is so close to the SMT that they might not bother.
Except for the 30kg of 'venture crap it comes with. And the limited choice of tyres.
Seems picky to be bleating about the lack of choice in bikes nowadays, there's so many superb machines available. And yet pretty much all of the big upright nekid sprotsbikes are based on superbikes with tiny chassis, originally made exclusively for genetically stunted chimps with hereditary rickets and prehensile knees.
Which means that if you're of normal dimensions your choice is somewhat limited to retro UJMs or bloated 'venture bikes. The new duke might have more top end than my 1125 LOKI, but it's 20kg heavier, if it's not at least something that represents a full size bike I'll be disappointed. Again.
Kendoll
11th February 2014, 08:13
Woah, never expected modern bikes to continue having reg rec issues, but there you go.
Seems to be an eternal problem, my Street Triple's reg rec melted while I was out riding. Fun times...:facepalm:
Oscar
11th February 2014, 08:28
Except for the 30kg of 'venture crap it comes with. And the limited choice of tyres.
Seems picky to be bleating about the lack of choice in bikes nowadays, there's so many superb machines available. And yet pretty much all of the big upright nekid sprotsbikes are based on superbikes with tiny chassis, originally made exclusively for genetically stunted chimps with hereditary rickets and prehensile knees.
Which means that if you're of normal dimensions your choice is somewhat limited to retro UJMs or bloated 'venture bikes. The new duke might have more top end than my 1125 LOKI, but it's 20kg heavier, if it's not at least something that represents a full size bike I'll be disappointed. Again.
The diff in weight between the 990SMT/Adv is 8 kilos.
I'm not sure if that qualifies as "bloated".
However, my comment was prompted by the fact that KTM seems to be playing the BMW game now. Instead of the basic adventure model, they're now offering the adjustable everything, traction control, abs and more expensive and more fragile adv bike that's never gonna go off road. These will be parked next to BMW 1200GSA's at coffee shops throughout the world as Ewen & Charlie wannabes compare notes over trim lattes.
The pussification of the Adv models mean that the SMT will be squeezed between the Adv and the Superduke.
Or - I could be completely wrong and KTM will build a rip snorter SMT to put up against the Multistrada...
george formby
11th February 2014, 10:09
Watched a comparison vid recently, KTM 1290, an Aprilia, er, Tuono I think & a Triumph Street Triple. MCN or some such. Yup, the KTM was woo hoo ect ect but they placed it second to the Aprilia. One reason. You can't change your settings on the fly. The testers got miffed at having to stop to play with the buttons.
Ocean1
11th February 2014, 10:55
The diff in weight between the 990SMT/Adv is 8 kilos.
I'm not sure if that qualifies as "bloated".
I was comparing it to a 1290SD. It's down 35hp too, although the torque delivery is more important for me.
The pussification of the Adv models mean that the SMT will be squeezed between the Adv and the Superduke.
Or - I could be completely wrong and KTM will build a rip snorter SMT to put up against the Multistrada...
Ya got me, I'm a pussy. Or maybe all those wannabes might have just have wanted a reasonably current tech big bike and an adv machine is the nearest they could get. As I said if you're over six foot there's not a lot to choose from. KTM had it right with the SMT/SMR, it's a pity to see them abandoning a complete section of clients to follow a dubious market rather than defining what looks to me to be a big gap in it. A reasonably easy development for them would be a 1290 SMT at 160-170hp and 180-190Kg, and if the styling was other than the typical adv style top-heavy looking attempts to incorperate the radiator into some form of bodywork it'd sell like very hot cakes.
Larksea
11th February 2014, 11:12
pretty sick bike, too hot for my cool blood.
fk its funny comparing the ktm promo vids to the honda ones ive seen lol. pretty obvious what market they are aiming for. They should market it with an obvious catchphrase like "the cops will never catch you" or "designed to ride one one wheel" or "front wheel optional"
Oscar
11th February 2014, 11:12
I was comparing it to a 1290SD. It's down 35hp too, although the torque delivery is more important for me.
Ya got me, I'm a pussy. Or maybe all those wannabes might have just have wanted a reasonably current tech big bike and an adv machine is the nearest they could get. As I said if you're over six foot there's not a lot to choose from. KTM had it right with the SMT/SMR, it's a pity to see them abandoning a complete section of clients to follow a dubious market rather than defining what looks to me to be a big gap in it. A reasonably easy development for them would be a 1290 SMT at 160-170hp and 180-190Kg, and if the styling was other than the typical adv style top-heavy looking attempts to incorperate the radiator into some form of bodywork it'd sell like very hot cakes.
We're probably hijacking this thread, but I wanted them to simplify the Adv, not flash it up.
I want a 180KG 800 V Twin with about 80-90hp.
Less is more. My old 950 has tried to kill me on a regular basis as sometimes weight and power combined are not a good thing.
Having said that, I'm keeping it until something better comes along.
Ocean1
11th February 2014, 11:20
We're probably hijacking this thread, but I wanted them to simplify the Adv, not flash it up.
I want a 180KG 800 V Twin with about 80-90hp.
Less is more. My old 950 has tried to kill me on a regular basis as sometimes weight and power combined are not a good thing.
Having said that, I'm keeping it until something better comes along.
I have an XB12X that fits that bill.
But for dirty work I can't handle anything that weighs significantly more than I do, and I long ago gave up trying to find a compromise, I use an EXE525 for that shit.
Oscar
11th February 2014, 11:25
I have an XB12X that fits that bill.
But for dirty work I can't handle anything that weighs significantly more than I do, and I long ago gave up trying to find a compromise, I use an EXE525 for that shit.
Yeah I went for a ride with Big Dave a coupla times when he had his, but I'd worry about the belt drive on gravel.
I also have issue with the wheel sizes.
Ocean1
13th February 2014, 17:54
...if it's not at least something that represents a full size bike I'll be disappointed. Again.
Well, it's not that small. In fact it feels not too bad.
White trash
28th February 2014, 20:28
Well we've had the demonstrator for a couple of weeks now, I've been lucky enough to rack up a few kays and attend a trackday.
For a bike I've anticipated so heavily, I'm extremely pleased to say it more than meets my expectations. It is savagely fast and with the electronics turned off, is the most brutal road bike I've ever ridden. It's absolutely barking mad and makes anything else I've ever ridden feel weak.
If anyone's keen on a demo ride, let me know.
DMNTD
28th February 2014, 20:51
Well we've had the demonstrator for a couple of weeks now, I've been lucky enough to rack up a few kays and attend a trackday.
For a bike I've anticipated so heavily, I'm extremely pleased to say it more than meets my expectations. It is savagely fast and with the electronics turned off, is the most brutal road bike I've ever ridden. It's absolutely barking mad and makes anything else I've ever ridden feel weak.
If anyone's keen on a demo ride, let me know.
Saw one down this way at a trackday that we were doing. FFS he was giving it and having fun...certainly embarrassed a lot of the full fairing boys.
I am making a point of not riding one for obvious reasons :rolleyes:
wynw
28th February 2014, 23:23
You can book me in for a test somewhere around the 1st of april!
Gremlin
28th February 2014, 23:49
I am making a point of not riding one for obvious reasons :rolleyes:
Ah, so the week after next, instead of next week? :rolleyes:
Drew
1st March 2014, 07:26
I honestly didn't expect it to be anywhere near as fast as it is. Walking away from all the liter bikes on the straights was funny to watch. Would have been interesting to see lap times if Jimmy wasn't such a fucken pussy under brakes.
If anyone's keen on a demo ride, let me know.
Yes please....week after next would be great as I'm off work. :D
White trash
1st March 2014, 07:56
I honestly didn't expect it to be anywhere near as fast as it is. Walking away from all the liter bikes on the straights was funny to watch. Would have been interesting to see lap times if Jimmy wasn't such a fucken pussy under brakes.
I got that sorted by the 4th and 5th session thank you very fucking much :D It took me three whole sessions to get used to the outright stopping power of the fucken thing, and even then, I was completely letting go of the lever before tipping it in. With race tyres and warmers, it'd be a perfect track day bike I reckon.
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