KTM Duke 390

[tons]

Has anyone asked KTM or any dealers anything on the Duke 390, and if it is coming to NZ, and when etc?

MotorcycleTrader has a small article that says "early next year", but not sure how accurate this might be ...

[ckai]

Yes it's coming. It's going to be roughly $10k and they're aiming for April.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and it's a 390cc single thrown into the 200 chassis.

[White trash]

Has anyone asked KTM or any dealers anything on the Duke 390, and if it is coming to NZ, and when etc?

MotorcycleTrader has a small article that says "early next year", but not sure how accurate this might be ...

Didn't you go to a KTM dealer and ask yesterday? lol.

Yup. April/May production is the schedule.

[Geeen]

It looks like an absolute giggle of a wee beastie. Perfect for my better half to learn on. Course, I wouldn't ride it


often:innocent::innocent::whistle:

[tons]

Didn't you go to a KTM dealer and ask yesterday? lol.

Yup. April/May production is the schedule.

No, wasn't me. Maybe others have been asking at dealers ... I think it will be a popular bike ... there'll probably be a six month wait to actually get one from when they 'arrive' in April/May.

[tons]

I see that TSS Red Baron in Wellington was advertising the 390's as 'coming soon' in the newspaper this weekend.

I am trying to decide between a 390 and the new Honda CB500F - which do you folk think would be the best bike?

[Hillbilly]

Fi you haven'tseen it, this is what the new KTM Duke 390 looks like:

[pritch]

I am trying to decide between a 390 and the new Honda CB500F - which do you folk think would be the best bike?

Well it all depends what you want to do with it. If I had the cash for a dedicated communter to replace the SJ50, that 390 would tick a lot of boxes.

[sil3nt]

I see that TSS Red Baron in Wellington was advertising the 390's as 'coming soon' in the newspaper this weekend.

I am trying to decide between a 390 and the new Honda CB500F - which do you folk think would be the best bike?I would put my money on the 390. I have a feeling the CB500 will feel cheap and nasty. Time will tell!

[HenryDorsetCase]

Two words: do want

[yod]

Two words: do want

I fully concur.

[Devil]

Looks like its going to be pant wettingly hilarious.

[White trash]

The 690's absolutely retarded. You can fully misbehave in any situation. Rock solid stability, pretty good comfort, excellent fuel economy, light tyre wear and fast enough for most situations.

For some reason a few of our customers are comparing it to a Street III but for me it's a far different bike as it's soooo much lighter and more hooligany than the Triumph.

The 390 will be spectacular also and at $4K less expensive and probably LAMs approved, it'll be a big hit.

[pritch]

For some reason a few of our customers are comparing it to a Street III

Well I currently have three bikes on my short list and the top two are the KTM and the St3, and I would be happy with either. While it is true that they are quite different to each other, with BlueWing not importing the Hornet, (or anything else much?) the middleweight cupboard is pretty much bare.

[ducatilover]

The 690's absolutely retarded. You can fully misbehave in any situation. Rock solid stability, pretty good comfort, excellent fuel economy, light tyre wear and fast enough for most situations.


For some reason nobody will let me ride on of them :facepalm: but they look like a perfect bike for a muppet like me
When the 390 comes out here I'll try get a test ride, if it's LAMS legal it'll be a seriously cool bit of kit

However... a 525 is LAMS legal :blink: and they're bloody silly

[pritch]

For some reason nobody will let me ride on of them :facepalm:

Boyd Motorcycles in Hamilton had a demonstrator. There's an excuse for a ride?

[ducatilover]

Boyd Motorcycles in Hamilton had a demonstrator. There's an excuse for a ride?

:Punk: If I happen to be in Hams sometime then, I'll be all over it like women on white-ware

[ckai]

Mum wants! :laugh: I certainly wouldn't mind having to break it in either, and the wife would be more than happy to "test" ;)


Boyd Motorcycles in Hamilton had a demonstrator. There's an excuse for a ride?

Bastards never mentioned anything to us! I reckon if they said something to mum, they might have a 400 with only a 1000kms on the clock for a trade :Punk:

Gotta have a play.

[White trash]

However... a 525 is LAMS legal :blink: and they're bloody silly

You're welcome to come ride our demo mate.

For the record, all the EXC range are LAMS legal as long as they're as they were uncrated and that means carrying heavy restrictions that makes them run like a bag of shit. Technically, any derestricted EXC running around is NOT LAMs legal.

[ducatilover]

You're welcome to come ride our demo mate.

For the record, all the EXC range are LAMS legal as long as they're as they were uncrated and that means carrying heavy restrictions that makes them run like a bag of shit. Technically, any derestricted EXC running around is NOT LAMs legal.

I'll crash it WT... I'd really love to take the 390 up the 'takas, I reckon it'll be mental fun

Yes, technically, but what VTNZ officer that tries to drop your bike will know this? :innocent: I could get a ZZR600 powered 400 through a wof, it'll look completely factory
Mind you, going by history I'll crash it pretty promptly again

[digger02]

I absolutely agree the 390 duke is going to be by far the best LAMS bike out there. The 200 gets such good reviews all over the world but with the 390 having nearly twice the power and still being LAMS legal, it should be at the top of most peoples wishlists.

[tons]

Any one got any news on when these are due out in NZ?

It looks like they've been 'launched' in the UK, some KTM dealers appear to have demo bikes available (assume actual stock is still a few weeks away?), but I can't find any reviews of it yet ...

If anyone is reading this is in the UK, can you do us a favour, please go take one for a blat, and then report back?

[White trash]

New Zealand stock is now slated for July production, September delivery unfortunately. The joys of being the smallest market in the world......

[HenryDorsetCase]

New Zealand stock is now slated for July production, September delivery unfortunately. The joys of being the smallest market in the world......

that works out well with my Lotto based retirement/new toy planning though. Superb!

[tons]

New Zealand stock is now slated for July production, September delivery unfortunately. The joys of being the smallest market in the world......

Thanks for the info! (I had wondered why KTM had removed the 390 from the Aus/NZ website and TSS RB had stopped advertising it etc).

Bit of a shame NZ is always at the bottom of the heap. It would be nice if the manufacturers occasionally did the opposite, and said "hey, NZ is only a small market, it won't take too many bikes out of another market to satisfy NZ's market sooner rather than later. So rather than sending 2000 bikes to the UK and making NZ wait, why don't we send 1900 to the UK now, 100 to NZ now, and then the remaining 100 to the UK later...". I guess dreams are free :zzzz:.

Although as Henry says, it does give us a bit more time to save up, also to check out reviews, and generally look forward to it ... could be a nice pressie for next summer :yes:.

[pyroguy55]

I wants it!!!!

[James Deuce]

Thanks for the info! (I had wondered why KTM had removed the 390 from the Aus/NZ website and TSS RB had stopped advertising it etc).

Bit of a shame NZ is always at the bottom of the heap. It would be nice if the manufacturers occasionally did the opposite, and said "hey, NZ is only a small market, it won't take too many bikes out of another market to satisfy NZ's market sooner rather than later. So rather than sending 2000 bikes to the UK and making NZ wait, why don't we send 1900 to the UK now, 100 to NZ now, and then the remaining 100 to the UK later...". I guess dreams are free :zzzz:.

Although as Henry says, it does give us a bit more time to save up, also to check out reviews, and generally look forward to it ... could be a nice pressie for next summer :yes:.

100? 10 would be more than enough.

I reckon it would be the perfect Greytown to Wellington commuter. Cheap as chips to run and insure and enough fun on the hill and in traffic to maintain interest.

[tons]

100? 10 would be more than enough.

Heh, you think 10 will be enough? This kind of proves my point ... wouldn't take much out of another country's stock to satisfy little ol NZ :yes:.

BTW, UK bikes look like they're being supplied in late April/early May etc, so might be a few weeks before we get to see some reviews, YouTubes etc.

[James Deuce]

Heh, you think 10 will be enough? This kind of proves my point ... wouldn't take much out of another country's stock to satisfy little ol NZ :yes:.

BTW, UK bikes look like they're being supplied in late April/early May etc, so might be a few weeks before we get to see some reviews, YouTubes etc.

I think you'd be shocked at how few bikes of each new model arrive in NZ and what the total sales are for each manufacturer. I know these are over 600cc stats, but it's difficult to know if the smaller capacity motorcycles are road registered or not. Even these stats below may include the larger quad bike sales for instance. LTNZ are not very good at stats. Or they are geniuses from their own perspective.

Top 5 600+cc motorcycle brands 2007-2011
2007
* Suzuki: 1526 sales
* Harley-Davidson: 861 sales
* Honda: 758 sales
* Triumph: 584 sales
* Kawasaki: 404 sales
2008
* Suzuki: 1324 sales
* Harley-Davidson: 899 sales
* Triumph: 573 sales
* Honda: 528 sales
* Kawasaki: 375 sales
2009 (RECESSION DEEPENS)
* Suzuki: 833 sales
* Harley-Davidson: 825 sales
* Triumph: 466 sales
* Honda: 327 sales
* Kawasaki: 199 sales
2010 (ACC LEVY INCREASES)
* Harley-Davidson: 674 sales
* Suzuki: 545 sales
* Triumph: 470 sales
* Honda: 268 sales
* Yamaha: 162 sales
2011
* Harley-Davidson: 551 sales
* Triumph: 461 sales
* Suzuki: 428 sales
* Honda: 240 sales
* Yamaha: 112 sales
* Source: New Zealand Motorcycle Registrations, Land Transport New Zealand

[ckai]

I think you'd be shocked at how few bikes of each new model arrive in NZ and what the total sales are for each manufacturer. I know these are over 600cc stats, but it's difficult to know if the smaller capacity motorcycles are road registered or not. Even these stats below may include the larger quad bike sales for instance. LTNZ are not very good at stats. Or they are geniuses from their own perspective.

Top 5 600+cc motorcycle brands 2007-2011
2007
* Suzuki: 1526 sales
* Harley-Davidson: 861 sales
* Honda: 758 sales
* Triumph: 584 sales
* Kawasaki: 404 sales
2008
* Suzuki: 1324 sales
* Harley-Davidson: 899 sales
* Triumph: 573 sales
* Honda: 528 sales
* Kawasaki: 375 sales
2009 (RECESSION DEEPENS)
* Suzuki: 833 sales
* Harley-Davidson: 825 sales
* Triumph: 466 sales
* Honda: 327 sales
* Kawasaki: 199 sales
2010 (ACC LEVY INCREASES)
* Harley-Davidson: 674 sales
* Suzuki: 545 sales
* Triumph: 470 sales
* Honda: 268 sales
* Yamaha: 162 sales
2011
* Harley-Davidson: 551 sales
* Triumph: 461 sales
* Suzuki: 428 sales
* Honda: 240 sales
* Yamaha: 112 sales
* Source: New Zealand Motorcycle Registrations, Land Transport New Zealand

GO TRUMPY!!! :Punk:

[tons]

Interesting stats James!

KTM doesn't even feature :cry:.

[White trash]

Because they're only giving road registered numbers. Total sales worldwide last year, KTM outsold BMW. 106,000 to 105,000.

[James Deuce]

Because they're only giving road registered numbers. Total sales worldwide last year, KTM outsold BMW. 106,000 to 105,000.
There was nothing on the stats page to confirm either way in regards to registration, so even given their source, the numbers have to be taken for what they are. I was going to say that KTM would more than show up if the sales stats for 250, 300, 350, 450, and 525cc off-road bikes could be found.

Pity the new Duke 690 is so ugly. That's not going to help sales.

[White trash]

There was nothing on the stats page to confirm either way in regards to registration, so even given their source, the numbers have to be taken for what they are. I was going to say that KTM would more than show up if the sales stats for 250, 300, 350, 450, and 525cc off-road bikes could be found.

There is somewhere that lists off-road sales, but I'm buggered if I know where :D. Most owners don't register their EXCs anyway so I doubt it'd change the figures much.



Pity the new Duke 690 is so ugly. That's not going to help sales.

You reckon? I love it. Especially the "R" version. It's also very easy to forget what any bike looks like as soon as you swing a leg over it.

[Kickaha]

You reckon? .

I reckon to, the 200 looks way nicer

[James Deuce]

You reckon? I love it. Especially the "R" version. It's also very easy to forget what any bike looks like as soon as you swing a leg over it.
The previous 690 Duke (Number 3 in a series) was great. It was all stabby points and bauhaus curves with mad, glaring, stacked projector eyes.

The new one looks like an Aprilia 6.5 Moto with missing body panels, and if I were to spend money on something I like it to appeal aesthetically, at least in some way. Something the new Duke 690 most emphatically doesn't.

[Eddieb]

The new one looks like an Aprilia 6.5 Moto with missing body panels,

Thats a pretty harsh brush you're taring it with Jim

[James Deuce]

Thats a pretty harsh brush you're taring it with Jim
I know what I'm doing.

[Kickaha]

I know what I'm doing.
http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/ethan_hunt85/47681145/254258/original.jpg

[imdying]

Fuck people on LAMS, I want one! I thought the 200 looked a doddle to ride to work, but a little more poke to pull my tummy along won't hurt :D

/edit: Actually, could be a good toy to teach the wife on before I unleash her on the collection....

[James Deuce]

Fuck people on LAMS, I want one! I thought the 200 looked a doddle to ride to work, but a little more poke to pull my tummy along won't hurt :D


Great minds! Well, actually, mine's a maggoty collection of fat trap scrapings, but you know what I'm saying.

[pritch]

The previous 690 Duke (Number 3 in a series) was great. It was all stabby points and bauhaus curves with mad, glaring, stacked projector eyes.


The old one did look better but it was very tall. I spoke to a guy who had one, he told me he had to slide his arse off the seat everytime he stopped.

Stuff that! I'm too old to be bothered with that.

I could live with the ugly one that lets me plant foot firmly.

[HenryDorsetCase]

The old one did look better but it was very tall. I spoke to a guy who had one, he told me he had to slide his arse off the seat everytime he stopped.

Stuff that! I'm too old to be bothered with that.

I could live with the ugly one that lets me plant foot firmly.

I have had to do that with every bike I have ever had including my Suzuki TS125. You get used to it.

Though I did strop round on a new (17inch wheel) Bonneville recently and it was great. My SO actually said to me "I'm surprised you haven't bought that". Thats sort of permission, right?

[RJM]

Found a listing on TradeMe stating September delivery date. I'm thinking about making the move from dirt to tarmac and this looks like a great bike.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-579201736.htm

[tons]

Check it out! First online reviews are up!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWXRoludvVQ

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNulCfvpujo

What a great bike!

[tons]

And some more :rolleyes:.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkj0WZIWcZ0

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYqbx8zVI-o

[bosslady]

Wow, beautiful bike! me want!

[Grashopper]

Wow, beautiful bike! me want!

Lol, we might end up having the same bike again then :D

[bosslady]

Lol, we might end up having the same bike again then :D

Not unless someone deposits 10k into my bank. Now, what's the likelihood of that?

[blackdog]

Not unless someone deposits 10k into my bank. Now, what's the likelihood of that?

Put on some fishnets and blow a guy, 1000 times?

[bosslady]

Put on some fishnets and blow a guy, 1000 times?

Where am I meant to blow?

[sketch]

Not unless someone deposits 10k into my bank. Now, what's the likelihood of that?

i almost brought the new 300 ninja before i got the 250 but cudnt warrant 10k on my first bike

uv got till september to save your pennys and i bet the ginny would fetch a mint as a trade, especially as it can hold more gear than a small truck

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-579201736.htm

[bosslady]

i almost brought the new 300 ninja before i got the 250 but cudnt warrant 10k on my first bike

uv got till september to save your pennys and i bet the ginny would fetch a mint as a trade, especially as it can hold more gear than a small truck

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-579201736.htm

Wonder if I'd be better off trading in or selling on tm.

[sketch]

Wonder if I'd be better off trading in or selling on tm.

id say trade me for sure, with a trade your dealing with a dealership wanting to get as much for the new bike as they can, all the while thinking what they can make outa the trade

then again not to be snarky at all but they dont exactly sell for much, 2k for a minta

[Eddieb]

Wonder if they'll make a slightly retuned adventure version?

Different cams to trade a few HP for a few more NM of torque for a fatter bottom end and mid range and that would be pretty sweet. Even if they dropped it from 44hp to 40hp thats still slightly more power than a DR 650.

[Grashopper]

Not unless someone deposits 10k into my bank. Now, what's the likelihood of that?

Lol, yeah, I'm still waiting for that too :D

[Maha]

id say trade me for sure, with a trade your dealing with a dealership wanting to get as much for the new bike as they can, all the while thinking what they can make outa the trade

then again not to be snarky at all but they dont exactly sell for much, 2k for a minta

Are you for real?...bike shops don't offer anywhere near what you want as a trade. I got offered $6K for my Triumph Sprint, trading on a Daytona valued @ around $14K at the time. I said ''$8K and we will do the deal''.

Salesmans reply was ''if you want sort of money, try selling it privately''...which I did and got $9K cash for it on TM.

EDIT: apologies... the lack of capitals lead to misreading.

[bosslady]

Are you for real?...bike shops don't offer anywhere near what you want as a trade. I got offered $6K for my Triumph Sprint, trading on a Daytona valued @ around $14K at the time. I said ''$8K and we will do the deal''.

Salesmans reply was ''if you want sort of money, try selling it privately''...which I did and got $9K cash for it on TM. That's what he said, sell it on trade me, not as a trade :) And I am confident it will sell for more than $2000. Extremely well looked after, oil and filter changes every 4.5-5k, k's still aren't quite up there think 18k or something... not sure actually, new paint job, aftermarket screen (worth at least a couple hundy), new(ish) tyres, new front and rear sprocket and chain, pack rack, factory sissy and some other gay sissy for a pillion. And also it's my bike and I'm seriously famous, so that must bump the price up at least a few thousand dollars I think! :lol:

[Maha]

The 390 would be ok for a bit of fun or a trip out to the coast for a coffee, but with an 11 litre fuel tank? not so good for longer trips, you'll be looking for a servo every 100 kms. And I think that seat is 80% wood.

[sil3nt]

The 390 would ok for a bit of fun or a trip out to the coast for a coffee, but with an 11 litre fuel tank? not so good for longer trips, you'll be looking for a servo every 100 kms. And I think that seat is 80% wood.100km? lolwut. I would say the bike would quite comfortably get twice that.

[HenryDorsetCase]

That's what he said, sell it on trade me, not as a trade :) And I am confident it will sell for more than $2000. Extremely well looked after, oil and filter changes every 4.5-5k, k's still aren't quite up there think 18k or something... not sure actually, new paint job, aftermarket screen (worth at least a couple hundy), new(ish) tyres, new front and rear sprocket and chain, pack rack, factory sissy and some other gay sissy for a pillion. And also it's my bike and I'm seriously famous, so that must bump the price up at least a few thousand dollars I think! :lol:

Fruit does not add value. It just makes it easier to sell than the stock one for the same price the next listing down. You are better off selling it stock and getting what you can for the extras. Pain in the arse but there you go.

[White trash]

The 390 would ok for a bit of fun or a trip out to the coast for a coffee, but with an 11 litre fuel tank? not so good for longer trips, you'll be looking for a servo every 100 kms. And I think that seat is 80% wood.

690 Duke easily returns 22km/L with me thrashing it, I'd expect the 390 to get at least 27km/L with no dramas.

[Maha]

690 Duke easily returns 22km/L with me thrashing it, I'd expect the 390 to get at least 27km/L with no dramas.

...and the seat on the 390 is not 80% wood right?, bit of a tongue/cheek post really.
While the 390 is a smartly dressed machine, the 690 would make you the envy of all those around you. Plus offer more in the touring stakes (if that was a requirement) and for $4K more, why wouldn’t you.

[bosslady]

Fruit does not add value. It just makes it easier to sell than the stock one for the same price the next listing down. You are better off selling it stock and getting what you can for the extras. Pain in the arse but there you go. We will see.

[GrayWolf]

690 Duke easily returns 22km/L with me thrashing it, I'd expect the 390 to get at least 27km/L with no dramas.

But, but, but if you sold it.... then you wouldn't have your favourite 'hoon machine' to play on Jimmy :bleh::laugh:

[Badgermat]

Deposit paid, Duke 390 on order. Delivery scheduled for September.

Apparently, i'll be getting one of only three bikes allocated to the dealer, which seems like an absurdly small number.

And now we wait (hmmmm ... wonder how the CEO of KTM will respond to email harassment about getting the NZ bikes here before Sept?)

[White trash]

...and the seat on the 390 is not 80% wood right?, bit of a tongue/cheek post really.
While the 390 is a smartly dressed machine, the 690 would make you the envy of all those around you. Plus offer more in the touring stakes (if that was a requirement) and for $4K more, why wouldn’t you.

A little L or R on after the "6" bit on your licence would be the main reason. Interestingly, Chris Birch genuinely prefers the 200 to the 690 as a road bike.


But, but, but if you sold it.... then you wouldn't have your favourite 'hoon machine' to play on Jimmy :bleh::laugh:

Pretty sure I can get my hands on another somewhere mate :)

[sil3nt]

Deposit paid, Duke 390 on order. Delivery scheduled for September.

Apparently, i'll be getting one of only three bikes allocated to the dealer, which seems like an absurdly small number.

And now we wait (hmmmm ... wonder how the CEO of KTM will respond to email harassment about getting the NZ bikes here before Sept?)
Nice. Has final price been released?

[Badgermat]

nice. Has final price been released?

$9,995 + orc

[tons]

Deposit paid, Duke 390 on order. Delivery scheduled for September.

Apparently, i'll be getting one of only three bikes allocated to the dealer, which seems like an absurdly small number.

And now we wait (hmmmm ... wonder how the CEO of KTM will respond to email harassment about getting the NZ bikes here before Sept?)

Are they definitely going to have the orange wheels?

[Badgermat]

Are they definitely going to have the orange wheels?

I believe they are, yes.

Partly to differentiate them from the 200s.

[tons]

I believe they are, yes.

Partly to differentiate them from the 200s.

Hmmm, don't think I'm a fan of the orange wheels. I wonder if they should have been an option rather than standard?

They're still going to be amazing bikes tho!

[HenryDorsetCase]

This month's Performance Bikes has a test of it: they call it the "LC for the new Millennium" or something understated like that. Conclusion was its a bunch of fun even if you arent on a restricted licence....

[White trash]

First shipment's almost entirely sold out. If you want one it'd pay to put a deposit down at your local dealer now.

[sil3nt]

So this bike sells for less than $4000 in India. Someone somewhere a long the line is making a shit load of money on these!

[White trash]

So this bike sells for less than $4000 in India. Someone somewhere a long the line is making a shit load of money on these!

Feel free to buy one, import it and list each and every cost along the way mate, you'll be surprised.

[haydes55]

So this bike sells for less than $4000 in India. Someone somewhere a long the line is making a shit load of money on these!

Is that with or without the sari guard?

I'm pretty sure they are made in india, hence the low cost. Add shipping costs, import tax, vinning/rego fees and gst. Yea someones making a bit of coin off these bikes. Blardy gubbermint.

[ktm84mxc]

My understanding is they're made and assembled in India then shipped to Austria for a quality check then dispatched to the markets , which are 76 country's world wide.
MCN Auss has a good write up and they'll be $6495 aus with abs, India's a strange market for vehicles as any import is heavily taxed by up to 100 percent , has caught out a few cricketers with their Ferrari's and Lambo's etc.

[fridayflash]

was thinkin of tea n toast with marmalade for morning tea
...now i have a hankering for a chicken madras and onion bhaji
dam it all!

p.s those 390's are horn! me want one

[White trash]

What about this little bastard. Jesus Christ KTM, fairly intent on having the biggest line up of "Must Have" motorcycles aren't we?

Love it!

284970

[haydes55]

What about this little bastard. Jesus Christ KTM, fairly intent on having the biggest line up of "Must Have" motorcycles aren't we?

Love it!

]


Just saw that bike is going to be a new championship in aussie at least. A ktm 390 cup. I hope we get coverage of that on tv.

[Vinz0r]

What about this little bastard.



Jesus, that's awesome.

[ducatilover]

What about this little bastard. Jesus Christ KTM, fairly intent on having the biggest line up of "Must Have" motorcycles aren't we?

Love it!



:love: Tell me more, please.

[Dogboy900]

http://beforeitsnews.com/motor-junkies/2013/07/2014-ktm-rc390-unveiled-2472802.html

I am pretty sure I read in Performance Bikes a while back you can buy a kit to convert a Duke 390 into a RC390, but it looks like KTM may be producing it now.

Going from memory I thought the ones they ran in the European Junior Cup in 2012 were getting some ridiculous HP like around 70 compared to the 38 to 40 quoted in the above article. 38-40bhp sound more like it though. I must go for a dig through my old magazines when I get home now...

[george formby]

Just been speaking to the old man in the UK on skype phone. He traded in his 650 GS for a Duke 390 this morning. Unfortunately he won't be picking it up until October. I never realised he had so much patience.

[Dogboy900]

It was the 690 in the magazine! 79bhp of single cylinder mayhem :)
And you can get the kit for a Duke 690 to turn it into a RC4 here www.mototech.de Now that looks like some fun times!

[sketch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayHRdvGNMvw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[ktm84mxc]

Pity they dropped the Duke 690 for a Honda CB500 twin in Europe's super cup class, hopeless bastards, Honda money talks.

[scott411]

Pity they dropped the Duke 690 for a Honda CB500 twin in Europe's super cup class, hopeless bastards, Honda money talks.

they have different bike every year, first the kawasaki 250, then the duke, now the honda, i presume they just tender it out to see who will pay the most, didnt see any of the duke racing, but presume it was as good as the honda racing is this year,

[sketch]

Just took the 200 duke for a test blat to get an idea what the 390 will be like. Great little bike so much fun, the 390 will be mental fun and im sold on the little dukes. Now to get rid of the ninja....... sorry kawasaki....... im out

[ducatilover]

Can ya give us a little more detail about how awesome it is bro? My riding gear is up the other end of the blimmin island, so I won't be able to go score test rides for about a month :facepalm:

[haydes55]

Funny how many people are keen on a learners bike. Even fully licensed people. Ktm are on the ball

[White trash]

Funny how many people are keen on a learners bike. Even fully licensed people. Ktm are on the ball

Yup. I'm awaiting the 390 to make a decision between it and a 690. The $4500 difference in price is a shitload of Powerparts and crash protection for the 390. But the 690 will be a bit more capable of the odd trackday. The missus will ride either but is probably more at home on the baby Duke.

What to do what to do.........

[ckai]

I thought I'd give mum's 200 a blast up to Auckland in the weekend. Farthest I've ridden it. Nearly 2hrs in the saddle. After meeting up with the wife, turned straight around and come back.

Certainly fine to ride for a decent amount of time and never once got sore (I'm 6ft). It didn't like the 91 octane that was in the tank though and felt a bit lethargic a few times when the wife, on our Daytona stretched it's legs a bit. We still had some fun around some corners having a little play.

Rising it a little enthusiastically, and having the Daytona in front, you do notice the lack of power coming out of corners. She wasn't even accelerating hard and I was on the stop a few times. The 390 will be a lot better in this regard.

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[ducatilover]

Yup. I'm awaiting the 390 to make a decision between it and a 690. The $4500 difference in price is a shitload of Powerparts and crash protection for the 390. But the 690 will be a bit more capable of the odd trackday. The missus will ride either but is probably more at home on the baby Duke.

What to do what to do.........

Put a blower on a 390, so it costs as much, costs more to run, lasts less time and has 50 times the cool factor?
Or just ram a CR500 motor up one.

[sketch]

Can ya give us a little more detail about how awesome it is bro? My riding gear is up the other end of the blimmin island, so I won't be able to go score test rides for about a month :facepalm:

when you first hop on the bike feels tiny and alot different from the ninja size wise, then you twist your right hand and it all comes good. Strait away you get a mischievous feeling, the confidence inspiring handling just make you want to throw the bike around, and when you do, it just loves it. The lightweight bike has great grip and with the 390 having the metzelers on it it will be even better. Coming to a stop at the lights i noticed the seat height to be a little high, but then the light gos green and you forget what you were worried about. The bike sounds terrible, and thats an understatement but with the plethora of aftermarket parts rumored for the 390 im sure this can be easily dealt with. Instrumentation is great and has all sorts of info, personally i like an analouge tacho but shift light and gear indicator make up for it. The 200 definitely needs more power and the short rev range tends to leave you wanting more but im sure an extra 190 (175) cc should sort that out.

In short apart from the horrid sound the bikes a minta, and just makes you want to run a muck

[White trash]

when you first hop on the bike feels tiny and alot different from the ninja size wise, then you twist your right hand and it all comes good. Strait away you get a mischievous feeling, the confidence inspiring handling just make you want to throw the bike around, and when you do, it just loves it. The lightweight bike has great grip and with the 390 having the metzelers on it it will be even better. Coming to a stop at the lights i noticed the seat height to be a little high, but then the light gos green and you forget what you were worried about. The bike sounds terrible, and thats an understatement but with the plethora of aftermarket parts rumored for the 390 im sure this can be easily dealt with. Instrumentation is great and has all sorts of info, personally i like an analouge tacho but shift light and gear indicator make up for it. The 200 definitely needs more power and the short rev range tends to leave you wanting more but im sure an extra 190 (175) cc should sort that out.

In short apart from the horrid sound the bikes a minta, and just makes you want to run a muck

You should be doing my job bro :) Get your order in quick mate, we sold another this afternoon. I'm away Monday but I'll give you a call Tuesday.

[Nat]

Anyone got any views on this KTM390 vs Suzuki DRZ400SM as a fun bike/ city commuter/ occasional backroad scratcher/ occasional gravel road hoon?

[Badgermat]

Anyone got any views on this KTM390 vs Suzuki DRZ400SM as a fun bike/ city commuter/ occasional backroad scratcher/ occasional gravel road hoon?

Funnily enough, I was considering a DRZ when I first heard about the Duke.

With the caveat that I made my decision based on riding a Duke 200 and making a massive assumption about the 390s extra power, I plumped for the KTM.

For me, the choice came down to the fact that the DRZ is a touch tall for me (at 1.73m ... a shortarse), and felt a bit unwieldy. The Duke felt very planted and perfectly proportioned.

Although the 390 and DRZ are pretty similar weight-wise (the DRZ is a couple of kg lighter), the Duke carries its weight lower so feels a lot lighter on the road.

I can't make any particular comment about any performance difference since I haven't ridden the 390 yet (it arrives next week), but power and torque are similar(isn) for both, so I imagine they would be comparable.

For commuting and scratching, the Duke probably wins. ABS will help there. For larking around and gravel roads, the DRZ probably wins.

That said, mildly adapted Duke 200s (basically just different wheels and tyres) finish 1,2 and 3 in the Raid de Himalaya last year, and that was run on some fairly rough looking gravel roads.

See here ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j57Uz4BXZjQ

Assuming my 390 does actually turn up next week, I'll be back with an update.

bm

[Grashopper]

Assuming my 390 does actually turn up next week, I'll be back with an update.

bm
Neat. I'm so looking forward to that. :yes:

[sketch]

First week of Septembers come and gone....... anyone got there 390 yet? I wana hear the ins and outs from someone other than some dodgey indian on youtube

[Badgermat]

First week of Septembers come and gone....... anyone got there 390 yet? I wana hear the ins and outs from someone other than some dodgey indian on youtube

Turns out that no 390s will be here before October. And even then it's a smaller shipment then expected, so few of the initial orders will be filled.

It seems that I'll be waiting until the end of October or even the beginning of November for mine :angry:

[mossy1200]

Turns out that no 390s will be here before October. And even then it's a smaller shipment then expected, so few of the initial orders will be filled.

It seems that I'll be waiting until the end of October or even the beginning of November for mine :angry:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=f14qqozCtBY

A little boy waits

[Badgermat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=f14qqozCtBY

A little boy waits

You have no idea how accurate that is. Petulance isn't in it :laugh:

[eikon]

"Vessel due 03/10, it'll take a couple of days to get the bikes out of the container and to us. Pipe is due Tuesday."

Hanging out big time......put ma deposit down in July...been waiting heaps long.

[st00ji]

thats annoying! i'd be rather grumpy myself if i'd been promised one thing before laying down the cash, then told another later once the cheque had cleared.

jelly though, they look like a whole heap of fun.

[Milts]

So, does this mean the price of 2nd hand 200s is going to plummet as everyone decides they want the 390?

[george formby]

Spoke to the old fella toady, he's back in blighty & has just picked up his new 390, put a princely 150 miles on it so far.
He says, it's tiny, it's very light, he is at least 15mph to slow in the corners for the bike, darts in like an irate weasel wearing crampons, so he says. Has not noticed any vibration running at a max of 7500rpm, said it's like a 3 stroke, best of a 4t & 2t so far. He is a very happy camper apart from the bright orange wheels & frame. He asked for a black one. He's a tad bamboozled that the seat height is 20mm higher than the GS 6fiddly he traded for it but can get both feet on the ground. Being a few months away from 70 he's loving the ease with which he can maneuver it round the garage. The steering lock does not work. He was accosted by a pert teenage nymphette "is that your bike mister? Wicked!" Probably outside of Lidl.
You can set the shift light on the dash to whatever revs you want, it flashes as you get close then stays on. Handy. Sounds good, too.

It was a brief chat, I had to go back to Repco to resolve an oil filter issue.

[White trash]

Fucken "A"! Here's a pic of eikons 390. Sorry about the wait mate, I'm sure it'll be worth it.

[eikon]

Fucken "A"! Here's a pic of eikons 390. Sorry about the wait mate, I'm sure it'll be worth it.

It sure will be thanks man!

:banana:

[Dogboy900]

That looks very cool!
Looks way nicer than I expected, hope to see you carving up the Rimutakas on it some day soon ;)

If I had the dollars I would put an order in for its big brother!... Never had a new new bike :weep:

[HenryDorsetCase]

Fucken "A"! Here's a pic of eikons 390. Sorry about the wait mate, I'm sure it'll be worth it.

damn cool

They phoned me yesterday to say they had one in I could sit on. Its sold but I want an idea of ergos

[eikon]

Cheers...look forward to post break in...so hard to not blast the thing...here are some more pics. Happy if anyone wants to catch up and have looksee. PM me.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=288368&d=1381274685

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=288367&d=1381274685

[Maha]

Those mirrors will be useful when towing the caravan.

[NZM0NK3Y]

Hiya,
New to the KB forum and biking in general. Had a Duke 200 last year, traded in back in May and picked up my shiny new 390 on last Saturday. A quick 70km blast later and I'm very pleased to report that it feels a whole different bike. Absolutely planted and rock solid at 100kmh. Taller gearing makes for much more relaxed riding (unless you give it a big twist). Actually a lot quicker then it feels when riding it. Short run on SH1 and I looked down and was doing 135kmh and I swear it felt more like 80 ..... Very happy !

[eikon]

Awesome, and agreed very pleased with the ride so far and I haven't even given it hell yet...power to weight is great and so far I'm not missing the power of larger CC bikes...

Is it just me or does that 4th gear just want keep on pulling and pulling..... :cool:

[Thaeos]

I've got a '91 zxr250C that I'm probably going to sell, just wondering what kind of deposit you have to put down on one of these things and if anyone knows a dealer in Auckland that has one?

[Badgermat]

Finally ... after five and a half very long months, my Duke has arrived. Picked it up yesterday but due to visiting rellies I have only managed to get 120km on it so far.

Pics and a proper write-up will come soon(isn), but so far it's an absolute hoot.

The good stuff...

It’s a delight to ride. Especially the steering, which is direct, fast and precise.
The brakes are excellent (but my points of comparison aren’t great, so make of that what you will).
It’s fast enough to be fun. Kinda.
It feels wonderfully light, but not insubstantial.


The not so good stuff...

Build quality is a bit iffy in places (mostly the finishing).
The throttle has an annoyingly slow action (lots of turn required).
The dashboard is horrid and very cheap looking.
The exhaust sound is a bit anaemic.


Comparison with the DRZ400 is interesting. The Duke feels a lot smaller (which it is) and a lot lighter (which it isn’t). It’s much more planted on the road and feels more stable, probably due to it’s height (or lack thereof).

For performance I’d say there’s not a lot in it, though I haven’t ridden them back-to-back. The DRZ feels like it accelerates better from low revs, but once the Duke gets to 5,000 RPM it takes off in a way the DRZ can only dream about.

Anyway, thanks to the guys at Cyclespot for putting up with my incessant hassling over the last couple of months, and for getting the bike to me for the weekend, even though they didn't see it 'til Friday afternoon themselves.

I have a feeling I'll be back for an Akrapovic exhaust in the very near future.

m

[drmikenz]

does anyone know if any KTM dealers in/around Auckland have any to demo at the moment ? seem pretty thin on the ground and i'd love to ride one before plonking down a deposit.

[Larksea]

yeah I'm quite keen to test ride one as well.

with the new license rules I should have my full in a few months but I have no real desire to go for something massive, there are a few bikes like this I really like the look of

the Duke 390
Honda CB500F
Yamaha MT-03

There is even a CF Moto 650 NK as an interesting (cheep) option, its a Chinese copy of a Kawasaki and seems to get good reviews, Dont think I'd get one myself but its interesting.

I honestly want to test ride all of them if I can :D . As far as looks go I know its a personal thing but I like the Honda simply because it lacks the flashy stickers and orange wheels Im not so keen on. At the same time if the Duke was just noticeably better to ride I'd still get it.

on a side note the new CB650F looks fricken cool but I dont think its coming to NZ?!

[Latte]

No demo to be found, I went as far as hamilton :D

You can get an idea by riding the 200, apart from the power. But physically the same bike.

Was going to buy one for the missus, but got her a Ginny instead, now off to buy a track bike for me.

[drmikenz]

I honestly want to test ride all of them if I can :D . As far as looks go I know its a personal thing but I like the Honda simply because it lacks the flashy stickers and orange wheels Im not so keen on. At the same time if the Duke was just noticeably better to ride I'd still get it.



Yeah I'm 35 and a scientist and orange wheels aren't de riguer amongst academic staff ;) I just bought a 390 yesterday after riding the Duke 200 because it was just so bloody fun. Rode the CB500F the day before and its a great bike, probably a 'better' bike in many respects (i.e. more practical for longer riding and two up perhaps) but the Duke just pushed some kind of primal pleasure centre in my brain. So orange wheels it is :eek5:

[Larksea]

Yeah I'm 35 and a scientist and orange wheels aren't de riguer amongst academic staff ;) I just bought a 390 yesterday after riding the Duke 200 because it was just so bloody fun. Rode the CB500F the day before and its a great bike, probably a 'better' bike in many respects (i.e. more practical for longer riding and two up perhaps) but the Duke just pushed some kind of primal pleasure centre in my brain. So orange wheels it is :eek5:

yeah I know what your talking about, Im similar being 35 and a geek too. was trying to compare them. it seems the CB prob better in many ways, has higher top speed? better high end, wider power band, even better on fuel... but the Duke and probably the MT-03 just have that torque element. Just a bit more fun to ride.

[daveo]

Im also looking at one of these took a ride on one the other day and it was one of the most fun bikes I have ever ridden.

does anyone on here who has one reccomend any specific mods that need doing? (apart from the obivous tail tidy)

[Larksea]

there is actually a forum dedicated to the duke390, found this which is interesting. Hardly a complete comparison and obviously Bias towards the duke but that would be expected being a duke riders forum and all :)

http://www.ktmduke390forum.com/forum/ktm-duke-general-discussion/2098-ktm-duke-390-vs-honda-cb500f-2.html

I'm still up in the air on what to get, Duke390, cb500f or MT-03 or just hold off for something else given my full license is only a few months away. Just really feel like ive grown out of my VT250, even though its been an awesome bike to learn/ride on.

[rustyrobot]

I'm still up in the air on what to get, Duke390, cb500f or MT-03 or just hold off for something else given my full license is only a few months away. Just really feel like ive grown out of my VT250, even though its been an awesome bike to learn/ride on.

Not tempted by the RC 390? :)

http://www.brm.co.nz/assets/galleries/953/2014-ktm-rc390-black-orange-01.jpg

[HenryDorsetCase]

Yeah I'm 35 and a scientist and orange wheels aren't de riguer amongst academic staff ;) I just bought a 390 yesterday after riding the Duke 200 because it was just so bloody fun. Rode the CB500F the day before and its a great bike, probably a 'better' bike in many respects (i.e. more practical for longer riding and two up perhaps) but the Duke just pushed some kind of primal pleasure centre in my brain. So orange wheels it is :eek5:

if you could bear to have it off the road for a few days you could get the wheels powdercoated black fairly easily. Or pink. Or purple....

[pritch]

but the Duke and probably the MT-03 just have that torque element. Just a bit more fun to ride.

I was somewhat surprised to see mention of the MT - 03 never having seen one in the wild. BIKE magazine rated them, "Fun, quality, distinct. [snip] And Pricey."

If Yamaha have dropped the price to unload them before the new twin MT-06 (?) arrives they could be a good buy.

The March issue of BIKE contains a long term test of the Duke 390. I don't know when that issue will arrive in the shops, but it should be available for iPad and android.

[Larksea]

Not tempted by the RC 390? :)



nope, I think I'm more into Naked bikes or cruisers with a more upright riding position rather than sport bikes.


I was somewhat surprised to see mention of the MT - 03 never having seen one in the wild. BIKE magazine rated them, "Fun, quality, distinct. [snip] And Pricey."

If Yamaha have dropped the price to unload them before the new twin MT-06 (?) arrives they could be a good buy.

The March issue of BIKE contains a long term test of the Duke 390. I don't know when that issue will arrive in the shops, but it should be available for iPad and android.

yeah I've never seen one other than youtube and trademe but I discovered them as they kinda fit the description of what I'm looking for. meduim sized torquey 660cc single. Would be keen to test ride one. Price is up a bit from the likes of the Duke390 & CB500. Definitely enough for it to be a factor.

[rustyrobot]

nope, I think I'm more into Naked bikes or cruisers with a more upright riding position rather than sport bikes.


Fair enough - I feel the same way. As you were then. :)

I also hear good things about the Monster, although since you could ride the small one on your learners, might not be the big new purchase you want while moving on to your full licence. Aaaaand it costs $17,000 dollars or so.


http://ih1.redbubble.net/image.12486906.7705/flat,550x550,075,f.u2.jpg

[Larksea]

heh yeah I'd have a monster but hat price tag is a bit more than I can justify spending on a bike right now. Considering what you can actually get for around 10k

[drmikenz]

if you could bear to have it off the road for a few days you could get the wheels powdercoated black fairly easily. Or pink. Or purple....

the orange has grown on me. like a fungus. seems to suit the bikes nature ;)