Shift Havoc Hybrid Pants - group buy from overseas - interested?

[Addict]

I have extended the closing date for orders

EDIT: Ok after some confusion the final price of NZ $114 delivered has been confirmed. Anyone who has not expressed their interest as yet but would like to get in on this can PM me, I will leave this open untill we get the minimum numbers (10) then place the order.


I have done some research on these pants and they seem to be very good according to reviews.
Unfortunately i am told that shift no longer sells these since they are doing only mx now.
In my opinion they are a very good looking pant for those of us who don't want to wear race leathers all the time.

They are very hard to get from my hunting for them unless you want to pay MEGA bucks from ebay or the odd dealership.

My plan is get a group buy together and hopefully we can get over ten people to meet the minimum order requirement. I am happy to do all the organising and logistics.

Contact Me if interested

Michael Wilson
0210358022



http://www.alibaba.com/product-tp/108649535/Motorbike_Leather_Pant.html

[francewavidok]

Interested :)

[MystikEagle]

These look awesome! Definitely interested. How would you decide what size?

[Wingnut]

I am on my second pair of Shift Hybrids (1st Pair were deemed useless after the waistline expanded) and they are excellent.

1st Pair cost $450 - got the second on sale for $180. At this price they are a fucken giveaway. :Punk:

I'll by a pair to make up the numbers.. Too cheap to pass up!!! PM me if you get the numbers and I will send ya some cash. Although - I am assuming you can purchase multiple sizes on the one order?

[Addict]

So far numbers are

Addict 3
theseekerfinds 1
geoffm 1
Kiwi Graham 1
francewavidok 1
MystikEagle 1
Wingnut 1

I have contacted the supplier in regards to sizing - awaiting reply.
I do not know if customs charges and GST would apply, if anyone else knows please post.

Regards

Mike

[GSW]

I would be keen for a pair... :shit:

[Geeen]

Hey, Mrs Geeen here.

Generally speaking everything that comes in the country pays GST, and then the duty rate depends on what the item is. (their standard thing is that if your gst & customs bill comes to less than $60 they will waiver it, over that, you have to pay).

Clothing in general terms will be 10% (but again it depends on where it is coming from, but it shouldn't be more than that).

(My job is in manufacturing and importing clothes for NZ retailers)

So whack another 25% onto the bill to cover GST and customs. Which if you are looking at $56 each, only bumps them to like $70, which still sounds like a steal!

Geeen would like to put his name down too please :) A 34 thanks

[Asher]

For that price im interested.

[EJK]

You still taking names? If so, put my name up on the list.

[giro]

Well I need to get my first pair of leather pants sometime & taking on board what Mrs Geeen says I'll definitely buy a pair.
To go over the top of whatever I'm wearing will be 96cm. (The nearest in inches is 38)
I'm not too forum savy so I leave a ph number just in case. 03-3820115

[k1w33d]

If they do a 5xl short leg then you can add me to the list.

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[Corse1]

Count me in. Need to replace the fabric pants.

[curly]

I'l grab one. PM sent

[NZPETE]

Yep count me in! I'm a big bugger though 46" or 48"
Cheers

[Jezxa]

I would be keen for a pair as a more comfortable alternative to full leathers but have a few concerns about the supplier.

The price seems too cheap considering the RRP for these was $200 USD. Also the seller is located in Pakistan and doesn't take credit card or Paypal payments, only Western Union etc.
That site is known for selling cheap knock-offs and fakes and it doesnt even say anywhere on his add that they are Shift Havoc pants. He's just used a stock photo of them and copied the description.

Beware

[EJK]

I bet $70 that they are 100% Shift knock offs.

But still, $70 for leather pants... :)

[Logpot]

Cheers.

10chars.

[Maha]

I would be keen for a pair as a more comfortable alternative to full leathers but have a few concerns about the supplier.

The price seems too cheap considering the RRP for these was $200 USD. Also the seller is located in Pakistan and doesn't take credit card or Paypal payments, only Western Union etc.
That site is known for selling cheap knock-offs and fakes and it doesnt even say anywhere on his add that they are Shift Havoc pants. He's just used a stock photo of them and copied the description.

Beware

Buyer beware I guess....:confused:
Consumer guarantees act does not apply in this instance...nor alterations for that matter...:corn:

[BMWST?]

sorry i am now out,unexpected repairs of plumbing kind required before xmas!

[Addict]

Hi all

Wow I did not expect such a huge respose!

As it has been pointed out the supplier does not advertise them as shift havoc pants and yes they certainly maybe copies but I personally am happy to pay this amount for a copy and deal with the risk involved. I understand if anyone would wish to opt out if they are not happy to take this risk.

I have done some checking on the customs website and there will be an extra 10% duty fee plus 15% GST and then there is the postage cost. at my reckoning I estimate a final cost of around $70 per item plus shipping which I cannot guess at untill I have more info from the supplier.

I think it would be prudent to close orders on saturday and get going on the money collection and ordering hopefully by mid next week.

Although keep in mind that this could all fall to sh*t if the supplier turns out to be an ass.
Will keep you posted on how I get on with comms with the supplier.

Sorry if I have not repplied to you all personally I just don't have the time with kids and work etc. I will PM everone who is still in on sunday once orders are closed.

Cheers
Mike

[Addict]

Just had a conversation with the supplier as follows:

Michael Wilson(2012-12-3 19:21:1)
Hi Michael here
Just to clarify, I will be having the entire shipment delivered to one address. So I expect the freight cost would be less?
I will have a final quantity on saturday 8th December 2012, so far the number is 21, will the cost be less with a higher order?
Could you please provide a price for the entire order to be delivered to one address based on an order of 25 units.
Thankyou
Michael Wilson

Anjum W.(2012-12-02 22:23:33)
Michael

Anjum W.(2012-12-02 22:23:39)
how are you?

Michael Wilson(2012-12-3 19:22:12)
Fine thanks. long day at work.

Michael Wilson(2012-12-3 19:22:22)
I am a mechanic

Anjum W.(2012-12-02 22:24:24)
I surely able stretch some discount further but it depends on the quantity you are looking forward

Anjum W.(2012-12-02 22:24:36)
good to hear from you

Anjum W.(2012-12-02 22:24:55)
so do you have any idea how many total pants are in demand?/

Michael Wilson(2012-12-3 19:23:53)
I expect 25 minimum, But I have not closed ordering untill saturday

Michael Wilson(2012-12-3 19:25:1)
So it could be more,

Anjum W.(2012-12-02 22:28:07)
ok we'll wait for that

Anjum W.(2012-12-02 22:28:39)
so surely offer you a better price option with shipping to your home address

Michael Wilson(2012-12-3 19:27:49)
Ok, I will contact you again once I have the final numbers. Also the US $99 price is that price based on delivery to separate addresses?

Michael Wilson(2012-12-3 19:28:22)
Sorry just saw your last reply.

Michael Wilson(2012-12-3 19:29:17)
Thankyou for your help, have a great day.
Talk to you soon
Michael Wilson

Anjum W.(2012-12-02 22:31:26)
yes sure

Anjum W.(2012-12-02 22:31:31)
thanks for the contact us

Anjum W.(2012-12-02 22:31:35)
see you later

[Addict]

Also email (prior to conversation):

Hi Michael,



Thanks for your inquiry regarding Motorbike leather pants, sizes could be any from 2XS to 5XL-

Prices with DHL home delivery per pant US$ 99.20/- Pant

Whereas our MOQ is 10 pcs order but you can add sizes.

Thanks

[steve_t]

So is it $56 per pair of pants or US$99.20?

[rapid van cleef]

also intersted, depends on sizing. thanks

[Addict]

So is it $56 per pair of pants or US$99.20?

As I see it - us$99.20 including shipping per pant to separate addresses.

The nz$56 was price for the pants excluding shipping customs and gst. - (direct conversion from euro to nzd)

The plan is to get the entire shipment to my address to cut down on shipping fees. And then distribute from my address be it pick-up, postal delivery or personal delivery from me to an auckland address or even a meet up - whatever to keep the cost down.

As in the transcript above he cant give me a final price until I have confirmed numbers - I know - I also would like a definite price before I commit, but I also understand that he can't give an exact quote until I give him the final order number.

Once I give him the number and he gives me the final quote and if you don't like the price then you don't have to pay, please don't feel pressured into anything you don't feel comfortable with.

Regards
Mike

[Geeen]

Im gong to have to opt out. Stupid euro Ford needs parts :angry:

[Asher]

Are we buying from the factory that made the shift gear and what we are getting is genuine shift minus the label? or are we getting cheap copies
You can see the shift logo in the sample pics so im a little confused.
What exactly are we getting?

[Addict]

Are we buying from the factory that made the shift gear and what we are getting is genuine shift minus the label? or are we getting cheap copies
You can see the shift logo in the sample pics so im a little confused.
What exactly are we getting?

I also am checking this out - my last email to supplier as follows, awaiting reply:

Hello Anjum

​

As you are probably aware the picture in you advertisement is of the "SHIFT" brand "HAVOC HYBRID" pant. Can you confirm that this is the pant or a copy of the pant that meets the following specifications:

​
•Leather and textile over the boot pants provide excellent protection and comfort without the road racer look
•Removable CE approved knee armor
•Stretch fabric panels in key areas for added flexibility and comfort
•600D polyester panels for flexibility and ventilation
•Accordion panels in key flex areas for unrestricted movement
•Two front hip pockets and one cargo pocket
•"Tunnel" system waist adjustment with double snap front closure
•8-inch connection zipper for attachment to jackets
•Reflective piping for added visibility

If this does not describe the pant could you please provide a detailed description please

​

Thankyou

​

Regards

​

Michael Wilson

[Wingnut]

Finding it hard to justify buying a second pair now that the price has pretty much doubled. Sorry I am out now too.

By the looks of how many you have interested it shouldn't matter anyway.

[MystikEagle]

Sorry, I have to pull out. Unexpected bike repairs :(

[Addict]

Transcript of last conversation with supplier:

Michael Wilson(2012-12-5 20:14:58)
Hello Anjum
Did you get my last message about the pant spcifications, we wish to get more information in regards to the item - are the the same as the "shift" brand pant that is pictured in the listing?

Anjum W.(2012-12-04 23:18:22)
hi

Anjum W.(2012-12-04 23:18:28)
yes yes we got it

Anjum W.(2012-12-04 23:18:35)
and it is 100% same

Michael Wilson(2012-12-5 20:19:32)
That is great news, could you put that in an email that I could pass on to the group please.
Thankyou

[Addict]

From Supplier

Hi Michael,



The below listed details is true and pant will get all the detail as listed below.

So it will 100% similar to the pant we have descriptions and below you have mentioned also. Thanks



Kind Regards

Anjum, W.



From Me

Dear Anjum W.,

Hello Anjum



As you are probably aware the picture in you advertisement is of the "SHIFT" brand "HAVOC HYBRID" pant. Can you confirm that this is the pant or a copy of the pant that meets the following specifications:



Leather and textile over the boot pants provide excellent protection and comfort without the road racer look
Removable CE approved knee armor
Stretch fabric panels in key areas for added flexibility and comfort
600D polyester panels for flexibility and ventilation
Accordion panels in key flex areas for unrestricted movement
Two front hip pockets and one cargo pocket
"Tunnel" system waist adjustment with double snap front closure
8-inch connection zipper for attachment to jackets
Reflective piping for added visibility
If this does not describe the pant could you please provide a detailed description please



Thankyou



Regards



Michael Wilson

[k1w33d]

Sorry but I will be pulling out too. Just bought a dirt bike for my son for Xmas so any spare money will be going to gear for him.

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[Maha]

''So it will 100% similar''....:laugh:

Translation...not exactly the same, interesting use of words.:niceone:

[Asher]

Haha well im still interested, although depends on what the final price will be

[Merlin.pgd]

Hi Michael,

I know it's passed the deadline, but I'm interested in the pants. did you finally managed to get any?

Cheers

[Crasherfromwayback]

sorry i am now out,unexpected repairs of plumbing kind required before xmas!


Im gong to have to opt out. Stupid euro Ford needs parts :angry:


Sorry, I have to pull out. Unexpected bike repairs :(


Sorry but I will be pulling out too. Just bought a dirt bike for my son for Xmas so any spare money will be going to gear for him.

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And here we have 4 examples of why we in the industry require deposits on any parts/acc ordered! How many times have we seen people bitching and moaning about the practice?

[aimee]

And here we have 4 examples of why we in the industry require deposits on any parts/acc ordered! How many times have we seen people bitching and moaning about the practice?

I'm interested, if you still need people :)

[Crasherfromwayback]

I'm interested, if you still need people :)

lol. I'm not the one you need to tell though!:msn-wink:

[Bassmatt]

And here we have 4 examples of why we in the industry require deposits on any parts/acc ordered! How many times have we seen people bitching and moaning about the practice?

Yeah, but the price has almost doubled from what was oringinally suggested and they are now copies, not legitimate Shift pants. I'd be pulling out too.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah, but the price has almost doubled from what was oringinally suggested and they are now copies, not legitimate Shift pants. I'd be pulling out too.

That's why I didn't include the quote from the guy using that as a reason. The others...well...

[Maha]

Yeah, but the price has almost doubled from what was oringinally suggested and they are now copies, not legitimate Shift pants. I'd be pulling out too.

To pull out, first you have to enter, if something sounds to good to be true, well, ya'll know the rest :rolleyes:
You can get the real thing right here in NZ for $179 http://motorcyclegear.co.nz/sale-shift-havoc-hybrid-pants.html...seems they are out of stock at the moment, but worth a contact.
These are mens pants also.

[k1w33d]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=538222367

I was keen for some pants but then an opportunity presented itself. I currently ride wearing fisherman's overpants.

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[Addict]

Hi Michael,

I know it's passed the deadline, but I'm interested in the pants. did you finally managed to get any?

Cheers

Hiya, not passed the deadline yet, shall i add you to the list?

Mike

[Addict]

I'm interested, if you still need people :)

Yep - the more the merrier

Add you on?

Mike

[Addict]

To pull out, first you have to enter, if something sounds to good to be true, well, ya'll know the rest :rolleyes:
You can get the real thing right here in NZ for $179 http://motorcyclegear.co.nz/sale-shift-havoc-hybrid-pants.html...seems they are out of stock at the moment, but worth a contact.
These are mens pants also.

I did try them - they told me that they will not be getting any more in and that shift only do MX gear now.

Kinda pissed me off that they still advertise them.

[Merlin.pgd]

Hiya, not passed the deadline yet, shall i add you to the list?

Mike

Hey, please let me know the final price then I'll let you know to add me or not, as I have found this web site http://www.motorcyclecloseouts.com/hot+deals/home+page+street/shift_havoc+pants that does it for US $179.95 and they have the stock I think <_<

Cheers,
Merlin

[Merlin.pgd]

That is a great pair of pants and unfortunately it has been discontinued and I can't find anything remotely close to it and be in the same price range! :wait:

[Addict]

Hey, please let me know the final price then I'll let you know to add me or not, as I have found this web site http://www.motorcyclecloseouts.com/hot+deals/home+page+street/shift_havoc+pants that does it for US $179.95 and they have the stock I think <_<

Cheers,
Merlin

Will do, I also tried them but they will not sell outside the states, so i thought to try the ship2u thing - turns out they wont even accept payment from outside the states!!!???

Mike

[Addict]

I would be keen for a pair as a more comfortable alternative to full leathers but have a few concerns about the supplier.

The price seems too cheap considering the RRP for these was $200 USD. Also the seller is located in Pakistan and doesn't take credit card or Paypal payments, only Western Union etc.
That site is known for selling cheap knock-offs and fakes and it doesnt even say anywhere on his add that they are Shift Havoc pants. He's just used a stock photo of them and copied the description.

Beware

Hi, adding up the numbers now, is that an in or out?

[Geeen]

I found a pair of the Shift Havoc pants instore in my size today so tried them on. Ended up parting with hard earned, so, if these "replicas" are anywhere near the same quality as the Shift ones they are a good pant. That'll learn me for going in to look at boots:facepalm:

[Addict]

I found a pair of the Shift Havoc pants instore in my size today so tried them on. Ended up parting with hard earned, so, if these "replicas" are anywhere near the same quality as the Shift ones they are a good pant. That'll learn me for going in to look at boots:facepalm:

299 perchance?:niceone:

[Geeen]

299 perchance?:niceone:

Yeah, not too bad for a pant listed over $500

[Addict]

PM's have been sent to all who are on the list.

PM me if I have missed you.

Mike

[Addict]

Sorry for my lack in reply everyone, been flat out at work.

We have had a huge number of pull outs so we have dwindled to 9 as follows

Corse1;
francewavidok;
Kiwi Graham;
curly;
giro;
tigertim20; ?
geoffm;
NZPETE; (thankyou)
Addict
+ one possible non "Kiwibiker" member

I have opened the "expresions of interest" again, once we get ten I will contact everone with details. hopefully it wont take long.

Those of you with ? beside your names could you please confirm your position on this.

Regards
Mike

[Corse1]

Bugger! Lots of question marks!! Did they give any idea on delivery once the order is placed Mike?


Sorry for my lack in reply everyone, been flat out at work.

We have had a huge number of pull outs so we have dwindled to 9 as follows

Corse1;
francewavidok;
Kiwi Graham;
curly; ?
giro;
tigertim20; ?
geoffm; ?
NZPETE; ?
Addict
+ one possible non "Kiwibiker" member

I have opened the "expresions of interest" again, once we get ten I will contact everone with details. hopefully it wont take long.

Those of you with ? beside your names could you please confirm your position on this.

Regards
Mike

[Addict]

Bugger! Lots of question marks!! Did they give any idea on delivery once the order is placed Mike?

yep

two weeks, but keep in mind the time of year - masses of mail being sent.

I bought a fairing kit from china at this time of year a couple of years ago with a four week lead time which ended up being about 6 weeks.

[Corse1]

Whatever the time frame I am still keen so hurry up all you question markers before you spend all your money over christmas:blink:

[giro]

Yeah, come on guys, it's still cheap. I need mine pronto!

[Addict]

To all of you who had a bad gut feeling................you were right.

http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/801134098/Fraud_SCAM_ALERT_Waqas_Anjum_and_Xroad_Manufacturi ng_are_thiefs___.htm

I am just glad I found this before it went too far.

[Crasherfromwayback]

To all of you who had a bad gut feeling................you were right.

http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/801134098/Fraud_SCAM_ALERT_Waqas_Anjum_and_Xroad_Manufacturi ng_are_thiefs___.htm

I am just glad I found this before it went too far.

To all of you that slag of dealers trying to make an honest buck...Tui.

[Maha]

What astounded me was that, seemingly intelligent people were willing to hand over money in the first place.
All good intentions from both camps, that, I am sure of.

[steve_t]

What astounded me was that, seemingly intelligent people were willing to hand over money in the first place.
All good intentions from both camps, that, I am sure of.

But but but... he was on an oil rig and could only accept Western Union :hug: Glad this was found out before everyone involved handed over their hard earnt :yes:

[Maha]

But but but... he was on an oil rig and could only accept Western Union :hug: Glad this was found out before everyone involved handed over their hard earnt :yes:

Was it Shaun Harris?...:corn: