FOR SALE - Drew and Alan's sidecar build

[scrivy]

More rapid escalation.

You won't be at Humpty Downs...... :rolleyes::whistle::whistle::oi-grr::facepalm:
:corn:

[Drew]

You won't be at Humpty Downs...... :rolleyes::whistle::whistle::oi-grr::facepalm:
:corn:

Wanna bet another tyre on it?

[scrivy]

Wanna bet another tyre on it?

What size?

[Drew]

What size?

Never you bloody mind.

[scrivy]

Never you bloody mind.
😉

Damn phone....

[sidecar bob]

More rapid escalation.

Your recent technical inspection is now obsolete.:facepalm:

[Drew]

Your recent technical inspection is now obsolete.:facepalm:

Be that as it may, we couldn't ride the chair like it was and we couldn't go back to the original system.

So I'll bribe one of you tech mofos into checking it over.

Besides, do the rules say no changes can be made between inspections?

[Grumph]

Your recent technical inspection is now obsolete.:facepalm:

I predicted several pages back that this would happen, easiest bloody prediction I've ever made....


Be that as it may, we couldn't ride the chair like it was and we couldn't go back to the original system.

So I'll bribe one of you tech mofos into checking it over.

Besides, do the rules say no changes can be made between inspections?

I'd suggest that you investigate a sponsorship from a manufacturer of grinding discs....
No idea what if anything the rules say about how much modification needs a resubmit for examination, but most certainly this much change justifies it.
Doing it in a hurry should just make the examiner look at it much more closely too.

Years back when i was head scrut for the GP down here, Mo used to do the chairs for me. He was very forthright on the standard he expected and if someone fell short they heard about it in no uncertain terms....

[jasonu]

For the first time in the build, we're putting on an engine performance part. Quick shifter baby!

Cheque book racer!

[Drew]

I predicted several pages back that this would happen, easiest bloody prediction I've ever made....



I'd suggest that you investigate a sponsorship from a manufacturer of grinding discs....
No idea what if anything the rules say about how much modification needs a resubmit for examination, but most certainly this much change justifies it.
Doing it in a hurry should just make the examiner look at it much more closely too.

Years back when i was head scrut for the GP down here, Mo used to do the chairs for me. He was very forthright on the standard he expected and if someone fell short they heard about it in no uncertain terms....
We're more than happy for tech inspection to be done again. But it was do this or not race it.
Cheque book racer!
There's a mysterious benefactor.

[Kickaha]

Besides, do the rules say no changes can be made between inspections?

I thought any major change was meant to be another inspection

[Drew]

I thought any major change was meant to be another inspection
Allowance for technical design:
All sidecars must have a technical sign off from technical steward. A log book
indicating the technical certification will be issued to all sidecars and each log
book will be registered to the sidecar for which it is issued.
The log book will remain with the sidecar for the life of the machine. Each log
book will be numbered and a metal tag bearing the corresponding
number will also be issued. This tag must be permanently affixed to the
sidecar in a position readily available for inspection. The log book must be
handed to the machine examiner for sign off prior to an event. Transferring
the Log Book or ID Tag to another sidecar is prohibited.
The log book must be current and will be renewed every two years from the
dateofissue.
Thissection does not apply to side cars(Buckets) as described in Chapter 24.
18.7i All sidecars must have a technical sign off from technical steward.
The design of the under tray on the F1/F2 sidecar comprises of a number
of functions.
1. A catch tray for the capacity to catch spilled oil.
2. It is also an integral part of the design and aero dynamics of the
motorcycle.
3. The tray is used as an integral part of the system to secure and fix the
exhaustsystem to the sidecar.
4. Given that Carbon Fibre is more than equivalent to steel or alloy and
provided the tray totally meets the protection and intent of the rule
then carbon fibre be allowed provided it is originally supplied by the
manufacturer of the sidecar.
18.7j No part of the streamlining shall protrude more than 550 millimetres in front
of the front tyre. Any streamlining and its supports must not interfere with the
steering of the machine.

Nothing about not hacking shit up in there.

[Grumph]

Hmmm, if you change more than 50% either by weight or length of tube replaced....is that another outfit ?

Discuss....

[sidecar bob]

Allowance for technical design:
All sidecars must have a technical sign off from technical steward. A log book
indicating the technical certification will be issued to all sidecars and each log
book will be registered to the sidecar for which it is issued.
The log book will remain with the sidecar for the life of the machine. Each log
book will be numbered and a metal tag bearing the corresponding
number will also be issued. This tag must be permanently affixed to the
sidecar in a position readily available for inspection. The log book must be
handed to the machine examiner for sign off prior to an event. Transferring
the Log Book or ID Tag to another sidecar is prohibited.
The log book must be current and will be renewed every two years from the
dateofissue.
Thissection does not apply to side cars(Buckets) as described in Chapter 24.
18.7i All sidecars must have a technical sign off from technical steward.
The design of the under tray on the F1/F2 sidecar comprises of a number
of functions.
1. A catch tray for the capacity to catch spilled oil.
2. It is also an integral part of the design and aero dynamics of the
motorcycle.
3. The tray is used as an integral part of the system to secure and fix the
exhaustsystem to the sidecar.
4. Given that Carbon Fibre is more than equivalent to steel or alloy and
provided the tray totally meets the protection and intent of the rule
then carbon fibre be allowed provided it is originally supplied by the
manufacturer of the sidecar.
18.7j No part of the streamlining shall protrude more than 550 millimetres in front
of the front tyre. Any streamlining and its supports must not interfere with the
steering of the machine.

Nothing about not hacking shit up in there.
Rule book racer.;)
Dude this shit is gold, I've not enjoyed sidecar racing this much for years. Gotta love hacking shit up.
You're so old school, build it local with local content.

[Drew]

The axle bone's connected to the....oh dear.

[scrivy]

Rule book racer.;)
Dude this shit is gold, I've not enjoyed sidecar racing this much for years. Gotta love hacking shit up.
You're so old school, build it local with local content.

It's what's been missing for years - NZ wide.

Where has the whole no.8 wire mentality gone?

Nowadays it's just buy parts off the shelf.....

...and before any longbike guys get their panties wadded up, I'm talking NZ racing in general.

[scrivy]

The axle bone's connected to the....oh dear.

Oh shit, you've just added another 20mm to the swingarm.....
Anyone got a 28 foot chain you can lend 'em??? :bleh:

There's heaps of lightness to be found in your frame bro.....
Just drill holes in all that box section.....

[nodrog]

The axle bone's connected to the....oh dear.

eef eef ees!


....

Where has the whole no.8 wire mentality gone?

......

check ricks sidecar.

[nodrog]

um, is the swingarm pivot ahead of the sidewheel by about a foot?

[Drew]

um, is the swingarm pivot ahead of the sidewheel by about a foot?

Yes, but I don't care.

[nodrog]

Yes, but I don't care.

I didn't think you would, I just hope you have a rear tyre sponsor for the season.

[Drew]

I didn't think you would, I just hope you have a rear tyre sponsor for the season.

With our weight distribution, this will make zero difference to tyre wear.

[nodrog]

With our weight distribution, this will make zero difference to tyre wear.

Somebody smarter than me commented on ricks chair when I was rebuilding it, saying that having the side wheel backward of the swingarm pivot would just make the rear light up everywhere. He was right, and that was only about 30mm out.

I didn't believe him until I googled imaged my brains out.

I'd be leaving it in line with the side wheel and just making it higher to get the right chain geometry if I was you.

[sidecar bob]

Just rigid up the rear, then the swing arm pivot means nothing.

[Kickaha]

Nothing about not hacking shit up in there.

Probably not

The original intention was any major change to the chair would be recorded and checked so there was a recorded history of any modification

The log books are just an exercise in box ticking they don't really serve any real purpose

[Drew]

Somebody smarter than me commented on ricks chair when I was rebuilding it, saying that having the side wheel backward of the swingarm pivot would just make the rear light up everywhere. He was right, and that was only about 30mm out.

I didn't believe him until I googled imaged my brains out.

I'd be leaving it in line with the side wheel and just making it higher to get the right chain geometry if I was you.
That can be controlled through damping and spring rate.

[nodrog]

That can be controlled through damping and spring rate.

Its got more to do with the fulcrum affect of the third wheel while cornering.

[scrivy]

Its got more to do with the fulcrum affect of the third wheel while cornering.

Like these noddy?

[sidecar bob]

Its got more to do with the fulcrum affect of the third wheel while cornering.

There goes another ten four inch grinding wheels.

[Drew]

There goes another ten four inch grinding wheels.

Nah. I understand why what he's talking about happens I think, but I reckon it is the lesser of the two evils on our outfit.

If your swingarm pivot is a long way from the front sprocket, drive torque effect on suspension is amplified. I want that control back, in the form of shock alterations. Yeah the tyre now leans the wrong way relative to the direction slightly more. But since torque is affecting it to a lesser degree because we have the ride height more stable, it will be clser to right than the alternative.

This is all specific to our spastic chair, and will not be true on anything built to any sort of plan at all.

[scrivy]

Somebody smarter than me....

Oh come on stop fucken teasing us, who was it?
Spaz can't talk, so can't be him,
Teenie.... well I guess,
The 3 year old bantu kid nek door.... probably,
The kid selling chocolate for school fundraising... maybe,
The lawnmower man... for sure,
The neighbours retarded cat, that has 3 legs, partially shaved, and the rest covered in eczema... hmmm... a real possibilty...
The Nek Minit man???



WHO??

[scrivy]

Nah. I understand why what he's talking about happens I think, but I reckon it is the lesser of the two evils on our outfit.

If your swingarm pivot is a long way from the front sprocket, drive torque effect on suspension is amplified. I want that control back, in the form of shock alterations. Yeah the tyre now leans the wrong way relative to the direction slightly more. But since torque is affecting it to a lesser degree because we have the ride height more stable, it will be clser to right than the alternative.

This is all specific to our spastic chair, and will not be true on anything built to any sort of plan at all.

I hear ya brother.....

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{amsmath}
\newcommand{\diff}{\mathop{}\!\mathrm{d}}
\renewcommand{\phi}{\varphi}

\begin{document}
\begin{equation*}
\begin{aligned}
\lim_{\Delta t \to 0^+}
& \int_{\Delta t}^{T} \int_{\Omega}
D(t_1,x)
\frac{\phi(t_1-\Delta t,x)-\phi(t_1,x)}{(-\Delta t)}
\diff x \diff t_1
\\
&=\lim_{\Delta t \to 0^+}
\int_{0}^{T} \! \int_{\Omega}
D(t_1,x)
\frac{\phi(t_1-\Delta t,x)-\phi(t_1,x)}{(-\Delta t)}
\chi_{(\Delta t,T)}(t_1)
\diff x \diff t_1
\\
&=\int_{0}^{T} \! \int_{\Omega}
D(t_1,x)
\frac{\partial\phi}{\partial t_1}(t_1,x)
\diff x \diff t_1 .
\end{aligned}
\end{equation*}
\end{document}

def ftermSquare(n):
return(1/n*sin(n*x*pi/3))

def ftermSawtooth(n):
return(1/n*sin(n*x*pi/3))

def ftermParabola(n):
return((-1)^n/n^2 * cos(n*x))

def fseriesSquare(n):
return(4/pi*sum(ftermSquare(i) for i in range (1,2*n,2)))

def fseriesSawtooth(n):
return(1/2-1/pi*sum(ftermSawtooth(i) for i in range (1,n)))

def fseriesParabola(n):
return(pi^2/3 + 4*sum(ftermParabola(i) for i in range(1,n)))

@interact
def plotFourier(n=slider(1, 30,1,10,'Number of terms')
,plotpoints=('Value of plot_points',[100,500,1000]),Function=['Saw Tooth','Square Wave','Periodic Parabola']):
if Function=='Saw Tooth':
show(plot(fseriesSawtooth(n),x,-6,6,plot_points=plotpoints))
if Function=='Square Wave':
show(plot(fseriesSquare(n),x,-6,6,plot_points=plotpoints))
if Function=='Periodic Parabola':
show(plot(fseriesParabola(n),x,-6,6,plot_points=plotpoints))

Should sort it.

[nodrog]

There goes another ten four inch grinding wheels.

what about 4 10inch grinding wheels?


Nah. I understand why what he's talking about happens I think, but I reckon it is the lesser of the two evils on our outfit.

If your swingarm pivot is a long way from the front sprocket, drive torque effect on suspension is amplified. I want that control back, in the form of shock alterations. Yeah the tyre now leans the wrong way relative to the direction slightly more. But since torque is affecting it to a lesser degree because we have the ride height more stable, it will be clser to right than the alternative.

This is all specific to our spastic chair, and will not be true on anything built to any sort of plan at all.

https://trusttriz.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/square-wheel.jpg


Oh come on stop fucken teasing us, who was it?
Spaz can't talk, so can't be him,
Teenie.... well I guess,
The 3 year old bantu kid nek door.... probably,
The kid selling chocolate for school fundraising... maybe,
The lawnmower man... for sure,
The neighbours retarded cat, that has 3 legs, partially shaved, and the rest covered in eczema... hmmm... a real possibilty...
The Nek Minit man???



WHO??

remember the red truck guy?

[scrivy]

remember the red truck guy?

GO THE RED TRUCK!!!!

Or now in Dazzas case, go the red BMW!!!! :lol:

[sidecar bob]

https://trusttriz.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/square-wheel.jpg



Said no pre European Maori ever.

[Grumph]

There's heaps of lightness to be found in your frame bro.....
Just drill holes in all that box section.....

If you're really doing it old school, then you should be drilling the holes by hand during a powercut, by the light of a lantern.....

[old rig]

GO THE RED TRUCK!!!!

Or now in Dazzas case, go the red BMW!!!! [emoji38]
It ant gona be red for long I found a faster colour and makes me look skinny

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[scrivy]

It ant gona be red for long I found a faster colour and makes me look skinny

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Biafrin Black?

Damn phone....

[Kickaha]

I found a faster colour and makes me look skinny
Fuck all chance of that happening

Once you get on it the power to weight ratio is fucked

[old rig]

Fuck all chance of that happening

Once you get on it the power to weight ratio is fucked
It's can only get better 😧

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[Drew]

Some togetherness at last.

[Shaun Harris]

Some togetherness at last.


Fuk this rig is gunna be entertaining to watch in action after all this shit tiped about it

[Drew]

Still some work to do, but we're nearly there.

[Shaun Harris]

Still some work to do, but we're nearly there.



That's the Mario'ist weakest piece of metal fab I have ever seen dude in that swingarm attempt. Stop pretending ya know what you are doing mechanically and just ride the fuckin thing man

[Drew]

That's the Mario'ist weakest piece of metal fab I have ever seen dude in that swingarm attempt. Stop pretending ya know what you are doing mechanically and just ride the fuckin thing man

If you say so. But I'm literally betting my arse that it's well and truly strong enough.

[Shaun Harris]

If you say so. But I'm literally betting my arse that it's well and truly strong enough.


Check the welds religiously dude

[Drew]

Check the welds religiously dude

This ain't our first fucken rodeo man, nothing has ever come apart before.

[scrivy]

I'm literally betting my arse that it's well and truly strong enough.

Strong enough for Darren Pate to rape you???

[scrivy]

Still some work to do, but we're nearly there.

Hmmmm.... what vertical support does the frame from the sidewheel have now??

[Drew]

Hmmmm.... what vertical support does the frame from the sidewheel have now??

Ya see that fucken huge piece of really heavy pipe that runs from the chair wheel to other side? That's all it's ever had.

[Drew]

Strong enough for Darren Pate to rape you???

Ain't nothing THAT strong.

[Shaun Harris]

This ain't our first fucken rodeo man, nothing has ever come apart before.


Very good, just sharing my thoughts dude

[scrivy]

Ya see that fucken huge piece of really heavy pipe that runs from the chair wheel to other side? That's all it's ever had.

No gusset or support or triangulation????:crazy::gob:

[scrivy]

Very good, just sharing my thoughts dude

Sharing the love - that's what us sidecar racers do dude....

[Shaun Harris]

Sharing the love - that's what us sidecar racers do dude....



U know Im a SWINGER dude lol

[Grumph]

That's the Mario'ist weakest piece of metal fab I have ever seen dude in that swingarm

So you know Mario the welder too.....


If you say so. But I'm literally betting my arse that it's well and truly strong enough.

Your arse is grass...


No gusset or support or triangulation????:crazy::gob:

Don't confuse them with technicalities.

Anyone want to start a sweep as to whether the motor can be removed without cutting ?

[scrivy]

Ya see that fucken huge piece of really heavy pipe that runs from the chair wheel to other side? That's all it's ever had.

Adjustable toe-in and camber on the fly.... bloody genius!!

[nodrog]

.....
Anyone want to start a sweep as to whether the motor can be removed without cutting ?

its a sidecar, I can see no reason as to why the motor will need to come out.

[Drew]

No gusset or support or triangulation????:crazy::gob:

Everything is braced back to that chunk of pipe. There is diagonal support from the chair hub mounts down to the pipe.

Bottom line, if shit goes tits up enough to bend that pipe then the damage to everything else would be catastrophic anyway.

[scrivy]

its a sidecar, I can see no reason as to why the motor will need to come out.

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
:shit::shit::shit::shit:
:love::love::love::love:
:buggerd::buggerd::buggerd::buggerd:
:hug::hug::hug::hug:
:drinknsin:drinknsin:drinknsin:drinknsin

[scrivy]

Everything is braced back to that chunk of pipe. There is diagonal support from the chair hub mounts down to the pipe.

Bottom line, if shit goes tits up enough to bend that pipe then the damage to everything else would be catastrophic anyway.

Fair call....

[Drew]

Anyone want to start a sweep as to whether the motor can be removed without cutting ?

Ya cheeky old prick, I ensured that would not be the case right from the get go.

[Drew]

Bit of a rub down and ready for paint. Small list of stuff left to do, and we're ready to roll.

Finally putting a dash on it too, so that'll be handy.

[racer40]

Will be good to see you guys back on the track again this weekend, and we all get to race against the world champ

[nodrog]

..... and we all get to race against the world champ

no, he gets to race against us.

[racer40]

I reckon i will be 4 to 5 secs a lap slower than him at best

[nodrog]

I reckon i will be 4 to 5 secs a lap slower than him at best

come and hang out with us back markers.

[Danger Dave]

I'll be happy if i get away with only being lapped once haha :lol:

[Drew]

Will be good to see you guys back on the track again this weekend, and we all get to race against the world champ

I doubt it will be much of a 'race'. Hopefully we won't get lapped.

[Shaun Harris]

I doubt it will be much of a 'race'. Hopefully we won't get lapped.



LOL, I am hoping the same thing for me in the F2 field

[scrivy]

I doubt it will be much of a 'race'. Hopefully we won't get lapped.

Shall we bet a tyre on it?:whistle:

[Drew]

Finished the swingarm and suspension. Al obviously carried on for a while when I left yesterday.

[nodrog]

Finished the swingarm and suspension. Al obviously carried on for a while when I left yesterday.

your right light is too big, im putting in a protest.

[Kickaha]

I'll be happy if i get away with only being lapped once haha :lol:

That was sort of my aim as well, along with making it through qualifying without fucking it up for the third year in a row


your rain light is too big, im putting in a protest.

So is mine, it's fine for FIM World championships but not for racing in NZ

[nodrog]

.So is mine, it's fine for FIM World championships but not for racing in NZ

sweet, I've picked up 2 places already.

I bet Tim's doesn't comply either.

[scrivy]

That was sort of my aim as well, along with making it through qualifying without fucking it up for the third year in a row



So is mine, it's fine for FIM World championships but not for racing in NZ
Will the 77 chair get dispensation?

Damn phone....

[Kickaha]

sweet, I've picked up 2 places already.

I'll put a bit of tape over mine to make it legal

I can think of at least 5 places you could pick up

I had a discussion with an MNZ official at HD about mine and sent him the link for what I have

[scrivy]

I'll put a bit of tape over mine to make it legal

I can think of at least 5 places you could pick up

I had a discussion with an MNZ official at HD about mine and sent him the link for what I have
When applying for an MNZ licence, does it ask if you can have epilepsy like syndromes enduced by flashing lights?

[emoji12]

Damn phone....

[nodrog]

....I had a discussion with an MNZ official at HD about mine and sent him the link for what I have

I had a discussion with one about it too, he packed a sad.

[Drew]

ps This next meeting, is it Manfeild ? wouldn't mind popping up for a look.

This weekend at Hampton downs, next weekend at Manfeild.

[Drew]

New gear lever assembly.

[Reckless]

Your goin well mate :) lookin forward to see how she runs this weekend :)

[jasonu]

New gear lever assembly.

If that rod gets even slightly bent or out of line it will bind in the rod end it goes through.

[Drew]

If that rod gets even slightly bent or out of line it will bind in the rod end it goes through.

Slightly undersize, and plenty of lube.

[scrivy]

.......and plenty of lube.

You got any left in the dungeon??

[scrivy]

Slightly undersize, and plenty of lube.

Why do you need lube if it's undersize??? :bleh::bleh::bleh::eek::weird::clap:

[Drew]

Why do you need lube if it's undersize??? :bleh::bleh::bleh::eek::weird::clap:

Up the bum, no babies.

[Mental Trousers]

New gear lever assembly.

Hey hey, something is drilled to lighten it!!

[Shaun Harris]

Hey hey, something is drilled to lighten it!!



lol, the u bend for his foot pick up point, will brake off in no time, making it lighter

[nodrog]

lol, the u bend for his foot pick up point, will brake off in no time, making it lighter

maybe he can stick it back on with some dried up milo?

[scrivy]

maybe he can stick it back on with some dried up milo?

....And lots of lube too remember.....

[Stirts]

....And lots of lube to remember.....

Now that's my kind of lube!! :wings:

[Drew]

Bloody dash has no shift light. Ripped off...whoever paid for it.

But it works, and is fucken simple to install. Good work Koso.

[nodrog]

Bloody dash has no shift light. Ripped off...whoever paid for it.

But it works, and is fucken simple to install. Good work Koso.

you can get a koso off aliexpress for $34.

[Drew]

you can get a koso off aliexpress for $34.

Yeah, they're cheap as fuck.

Only issue, the instructions want the RPM signal wire hooked up to the positive side of the coil. Dumb translators.

I didn't bother trying that, but I bet it's caused a few headaches.

[Drew]

We're locked and fucken loaded baby, YEAH!

Well, truth be told we're not loaded. That's tomorrow night's job. But the chair is ready to rock and roll, so everyone cross their fingers that we've got our shit together for once and we bring it home needing nothing but an oil change.

[scrivy]

....so everyone cross their fingers that we've got our shit together for once and we bring it home needing nothing but an oil change.

...and new undies....😉😈

Damn phone....

[Drew]

...and new undies....😉😈

Damn phone....

What are these 'undies' you speak of?

[old rig]

What are these 'undies' you speak of?
He left them at turn 1 at wangs

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[scrivy]

He left them at turn 1 at wangs

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Hows the colonel tonight?

Damn phone....

[old rig]

Hows the colonel tonight?

Damn phone....
I KNOW NOTHING 🔫

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[Drew]

He left them at turn 1 at wangs

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He can pick them up next year then.

[scrivy]

I KNOW NOTHING 🔫

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Been perving on hogan today?

Damn phone....

[old rig]

He can pick them up next year then.
There will be that much DNA in them they most likely got lonely. Packed up and headed home

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[old rig]

Been perving on hogan today?

Damn phone....
I had my other eye done so it's easier

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[scrivy]

I had my other eye done so it's easier

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Well we cant call u pirate at least....

Damn phone....

[scrivy]

Gunna b at the downs?

Damn phone....

[Shaun Harris]

Has anyone received there entry passes as yet?

[nodrog]

Has anyone received there entry passes as yet?

Yeah like a week ago

[Shaun Harris]

Yeah like a week ago



lol guess mine have gone missing then in action

[nodrog]

lol guess mine have gone missing then in action

Maybe its a hint?

[Shaun Harris]

Maybe its a hint?


mmmmm O well, best I go and pack my van up then anyway- Doubt it though, as they know I have ORIGINAL MILO for sale there this weekend- Bring ya cash

[scrivy]

mmmmm O well, best I go and pack my van up then anyway- Doubt it though, as they know I have ORIGINAL MILO for sale there this weekend- Bring ya cash

Can I buy new stuff from ya......... :cool:;):whistle:

[Shaun Harris]

Can I buy new stuff from ya......... :cool:;):whistle:



IU wana suk my wot

[scrivy]

IU wana suk my wot

Gordie owes me. He can suck you for it.

[Shaun Harris]

Gordie owes me. He can suck you or it.


I think I just threw up a little bit

[scrivy]

I think I just threw up a little bit

Was that the old or the new milo??? Past it's use by date???

[nodrog]

mmmmm O well, best I go and pack my van up then anyway- Doubt it though, as they know I have ORIGINAL MILO for sale there this weekend- Bring ya cash

I expect a free sample, plus use of your pit Garage For storage at night.

[scrivy]

I expect a free sample, plus use of your pit Garage For storage at night.
You're already giving him a blowie, so you dont have to grovel.....

Damn phone....

[Shaun Harris]

Hey, I actually saw this chair go round and round and again round today-good start guys, now just shut up Drew

[Drew]

Hey, I actually saw this chair go round and round and again round today-good start guys, now just shut up Drew

Get a job ya bum.

[Kickaha]

Get a job ya bum.

How did it go compared to before you rebuilt half of it??

[Shaun Harris]

Get a job ya bum.


That is the long term plan buddy

[Drew]

How did it go compared to before you rebuilt half of it??

Once we sorted out the head shake, it was great. It stays at a consistent ride height now, so right hand turns are truck loads better.

[Kickaha]

Once we sorted out the head shake, it was great. .

What was causing the head shake?

[Drew]

What was causing the head shake?

Not enough trail now that the back stays jacked up. We wouldn't have found it if it weren't for Scrivy...of all fucken people.

[scrivy]

Not enough trail now that the back stays jacked up. We wouldn't have found it if it weren't for Scrivy...of all fucken people.
You're welcome...

I musta been an engineer in my past life..............😈

Great to see u 2 out there going fast.

Damn phone....

[sidecar bob]

Not enough trail now that the back stays jacked up. We wouldn't have found it if it weren't for Scrivy...of all fucken people.

What would he know about short bike set up?
Lucky guess I'd say.

[Drew]

What would he know about short bike set up?
Lucky guess I'd say.

He usually doesn't opine, when it is set up issues. I've always thought all you cunts just show up, kick the tyres, and go racing.

[scrivy]

He usually doesn't opine, when it is set up issues. I've always thought all you cunts just show up, kick the tyres, and go racing.

You're 100% right.
We sit on our asses talking shit, and do kick the tyres before a race. Hell, sometimes we clean our visors......
But all the set up has been done at home...... unbeknownst to all and sundry......

It's the shortbike version of smoke and mirrors.......... :cool::devil2::lol:

[Drew]

You're 100% right.
We sit on our asses talking shit, and do kick the tyres before a race. Hell, sometimes we clean our visors......
But all the set up has been done at home...... unbeknownst to all and sundry......

It's the shortbike version of smoke and mirrors.......... :cool::devil2::lol:
I might start to listen to ya'll when ya tell me not to do stuff. Except Gordie, what would he know? He just makes kitchens.

I'm really happy with the stability of the chair now. We can ride this thing in confidence now and have fun doing skids and stuff. I'm told it leaves mint stripes out of Barrel at Hampton.

Only things pissing me off now. The gear shifter doesn't fucken work half the time, and I want a torque arm holding the front brake caliper. There's no point trying to set geometry at the front to make gains, for it to all be for fuck all when ya touch the brakes and it goes straight to full extension and essentially have no suspension/bump compliance.

As a quick after thought. We're currently running a 3/4 Tilton master cylinder for the front brake, and 15/16 for the rear and chair. Since we don't have a great deal of room for a longer brake lever to get a softer peddle and some more braking power, I'd like to try the 3/4 we have for the rears, and 11/16ish for the front if someone has one we could borrow to trial before we shell out for a new one. To be clear, we run the full size car style masters.

[scrivy]

Only things pissing me off now. The gear shifter doesn't fucken work half the time, and I want a torque arm holding the front brake caliper. There's no point trying to set geometry at the front to make gains, for it to all be for fuck all when ya touch the brakes and it goes straight to full extension and essentially have no suspension/bump compliance.


My last 2 meetings, I had no end of gearbox issues..... AS YOU ALL KNOW!!!!

As for the front end, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE (get it?) go and visit Clive Watson - from the Aussie F2 chair camp this weekend at Manfeild. What he doesn't know about chair design and build, you could write on a postage stamp. He has built trillions of the fuckers! He will give you some VERY GOOD knowledge of front end set up.
You will not get better advice Drew. Take it from a man that is in the top 1% of frame builders in the world......

[nodrog]

I might start to listen to ya'll when ya tell me not to do stuff. Except Gordie, what would he know? He just makes kitchens.

I'm really happy with the stability of the chair now. We can ride this thing in confidence now and have fun doing skids and stuff. I'm told it leaves mint stripes out of Barrel at Hampton.

Only things pissing me off now. The gear shifter doesn't fucken work half the time, and I want a torque arm holding the front brake caliper. There's no point trying to set geometry at the front to make gains, for it to all be for fuck all when ya touch the brakes and it goes straight to full extension and essentially have no suspension/bump compliance.

As a quick after thought. We're currently running a 3/4 Tilton master cylinder for the front brake, and 15/16 for the rear and chair. Since we don't have a great deal of room for a longer brake lever to get a softer peddle and some more braking power, I'd like to try the 3/4 we have for the rears, and 11/16ish for the front if someone has one we could borrow to trial before we shell out for a new one. To be clear, we run the full size car style masters.

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[Drew]

My last 2 meetings, I had no end of gearbox issues..... AS YOU ALL KNOW!!!!

As for the front end, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE (get it?) go and visit Clive Watson - from the Aussie F2 chair camp this weekend at Manfeild. What he doesn't know about chair design and build, you could write on a postage stamp. He has built trillions of the fuckers! He will give you some VERY GOOD knowledge of front end set up.
You will not get better advice Drew. Take it from a man that is in the top 1% of frame builders in the world......
No stress bro. I'll go see what he says for sure.

To be clear, I don't have to cut anything up or change the front end to fit a torque arm. The allowance is there to mount one now. We just had it mounted to the emergency caliper before, and the mounting plate wasn't tough enough for the amount of force the main caliper creates, and it twisted. We just roll the caliper mounting plate around the axle, and chuck a bar from the main one to the fork leg.

[Shaun Harris]

Was impressed with the speed of the chair Drew, the old 1200 motors have life in them yet eh.

[Drew]

Was impressed with the speed of the chair Drew, the old 1200 motors have life in them yet eh.
Yip, we've got no problems with having enough grunt. Bit more braking power and we can start giving it a proper nudge.

I was riding like a pussy all weekend. After we (almost) sorted out the headshake, I wasn't chasing it deep enough into any turn.

Huge steps though, it's soooooooo much better than it was.

[Shaun Harris]

Yip, we've got no problems with having enough grunt. Bit more braking power and we can start giving it a proper nudge.

I was riding like a pussy all weekend. After we (almost) sorted out the headshake, I wasn't chasing it deep enough into any turn.

Huge steps though, it's soooooooo much better than it was.


Happy for you guys man, it makes all the work and stress worth while eh

[scrivy]

Happy for you guys man, it makes all the work and stress worth while eh

Kumbaya ......... :bleh::love::love::chase::hug::buggerd::apint::dev il2:

You two need to get a dungeon......:shutup::shit::bleh:

[Shaun Harris]

Kumbaya ......... :bleh::love::love::chase::hug::buggerd::apint::dev il2:

You two need to get a dungeon......:shutup::shit::bleh:



He looks like one already

[sidecar bob]

Yip, we've got no problems with having enough grunt. Bit more braking power and we can start giving it a proper nudge.

I was riding like a pussy all weekend. After we (almost) sorted out the headshake, I wasn't chasing it deep enough into any turn.

Huge steps though, it's soooooooo much better than it was.

It did get a bit lighter at turn three, so that may account for some of the speed gain.

[Mental Trousers]

By the looks of this you two didn't quite manage to make it without being lapped. Bummer.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMVWG3WTMAc

[scrivy]

By the looks of this you two didn't quite manage to make it without being lapped. Bummer.



I think the superbike laptimes around Wangas are gunna be almost beaten by Tim.

[Shaun Harris]

I think the superbike laptimes around Wangas are gunna be almost beaten by Tim.


I agree dude

[Kickaha]

I think the superbike laptimes around Wangas are gunna be almost beaten by Tim.

Fuck I hope so, that would be funny as fuck

[scrivy]

Fuck I hope so, that would be funny as fuck
And even on a standard engine......😆

Damn phone....

[sidecar bob]

Has anyone else spanked their monkey raw over that video of Tim, or is it just me?

[Kickaha]

Has anyone else spanked their monkey raw over that video of Tim, or is it just me?

No comment.......

[merv]

What was the limp about, has he got gout or summat from too much warm piss?

[Mental Trousers]

By the looks of this you two didn't quite manage to make it without being lapped. Bummer.



I think the superbike laptimes around Wangas are gunna be almost beaten by Tim.

He's a fucken lunatic so he could probably do it.

[sidecar bob]

What was the limp about, has he got gout or summat from too much warm piss?

Poor cunt broke his big toe by smashing it on the track.
Still smoked everyone's arse, broken toe & all.

[Shaun Harris]

Hey Drew, I did NOT get lapped lol

[Drew]

Hey Drew, I did NOT get lapped lol

In your class, you were the international champion. Did you lap 7th place on lap 8 and win by 30 seconds?

[Shaun Harris]

In your class, you were the international champion. Did you lap 7th place on lap 8 and win by 30 seconds?



lol, nah, but sure got my ass kicked by some riders- Lol even got wipped by a women- Sorry Avalon

[scrivy]

even got wipped by a women

Yeah, well some people pay for that abuse Shaun..... :whistle:

[scrivy]

In your class, you were the international champion. Did you lap 7th place on lap 8 and win by 30 seconds?

It would be the equivalent of Tom Sykes coming out here on his ZX10 and beating a clubmans racer.....

[Grumph]

Yeah, well some people pay for that abuse Shaun..... :whistle:

And some - the really cunning ones - charge it to the sponsor....

[Shaun Harris]

Yeah, well some people pay for that abuse Shaun..... :whistle:



Lol, ya sick O

[scrivy]

And some - the really cunning ones - charge it to the sponsor....

I have heard that to be true .......... :shifty::msn-wink::shit::love:

[Shaun Harris]

I have heard that to be true .......... :shifty::msn-wink::shit::love:


Paid for 2 dark ones years back with a race team credit card that I was managing, does that count lol. Just had to see 2 pink spots in action together live, rather than on the net haha

[scrivy]

Paid for 2 dark ones years back with a race team credit card that I was managing, does that count lol. Just had to see 2 pink spots in action together live, rather than on the net haha

.....and you call me sick........ :facepalm::shit::shutup::shifty:

[Shaun Harris]

.....and you call me sick........ :facepalm::shit::shutup::shifty:



Hey, Im a lot mentally healthier you dude

[scrivy]

Hey, Im a lot mentally healthier you dude

Bullshit.
I can do 120 facesquats a minute, 100 thrusts a minute, 90 piledrive lunges a minute, 40 hairpulling gags a minute....

I heard you can only do 140 pulloffs a minute....... :tugger::lol:

[Shaun Harris]

Bullshit.
I can do 120 facesquats a minute, 100 thrusts a minute, 90 piledrive lunges a minute, 40 hairpulling gags a minute....

I heard you can only do 140 pulloffs a minute....... :tugger::lol:


yea, but then I change hands

[scrivy]

yea, but then I change hands

Oh, you're a high performance two-stroker......???:shutup:

[Shaun Harris]

Oh, you're a high performance two-stroker......???:shutup:



Im peaky all write! Just cannot figure out where to put my POWER BAND though, tried it around my nut sack, but that just hurt and chocked the flow I think, we nearly siezed that time:msn-wink:

[Drew]

New bits, just because.

[scrivy]

New bits, just because.

It'll be interesting to hear your feedback...

[Drew]

It'll be interesting to hear your feedback...

We've run it before. The system is HEAPS better. Brake deeper and later because your suspension is working.

[Shaun Harris]

Was that you having a wee spin out at Higginns in race 1 dude?

[scrivy]

We've run it before. The system is HEAPS better. Brake deeper and later because your suspension is working.

Was great to watch a shorty out there having fun mate!

[Shaun Harris]

Was great to watch a shorty out there having fun mate!


I was impressed with the fact that he had the strength/stamina to race it that hard, with the way it was reacting. It looked like the motor has way to much grunt for that chassis package? but not being a sidecar rider myself what the fuk would I know

[scrivy]

I was impressed with the fact that he had the strength/stamina to race it that hard, with the way it was reacting. It looked like the motor has way to much grunt for that chassis package? but not being a sidecar rider myself what the fuk would I know

Definately not enough grunt.
Wasnt laying blackies out of corners on two wheels.....
It did however lay blackies going into Higgins on one lap.....😈😈😈

Damn phone....

[Shaun Harris]

Definately not enough grunt.
Wasnt laying blackies out of corners on two wheels.....
It did however lay blackies going into Higgins on one lap.....😈😈😈

Damn phone....



mmmmm, thought I saw that. So the beer is on Drew then

[scrivy]

mmmmm, thought I saw that. So the beer is on Drew then
Nope. Stayed on and finished...

Damn phone....

[scrivy]

mmmmm, thought I saw that. So the beer is on Drew then
Drew just took "backing it in" to another level....😀😀

Damn phone....

[Drew]

Nope. Stayed on and finished...

Damn phone....

Didn't lose a place either.

[Drew]

Got a gearbox at a precision grinding outfit, will be ready this week. Will pull the motor out tonight and get the old box out ready.

Must remember to adjust the brake bias forward a touch too. Should have been able to make Higgins in that first race on Sunday methinks.

[Drew]

Wasnt laying blackies out of corners on two wheels......
Yes it was bro, slides out of turns two and four with the back wheel howling really well.

[Drew]

Oh yip, there's lots of stuff there.

[Grumph]

What I can see of that box's dogs doesn't look a problem. Has it been jumping out of gear ?
Until I did Warwick's motor I didn't know that the GSXR1000's flexed the shift fork rails, if they do it, that probably will too.
Fix is solid rails rather than tubular ones.
While it's apart, take the balking ball setup out of second gear on the layshaft if it hasn't already been done. They're an inconvenience left in.
Pull the bloody balance shafts too...

[Drew]

What I can see of that box's dogs doesn't look a problem. Has it been jumping out of gear ?
Until I did Warwick's motor I didn't know that the GSXR1000's flexed the shift fork rails, if they do it, that probably will too.
Fix is solid rails rather than tubular ones.
While it's apart, take the balking ball setup out of second gear on the layshaft if it hasn't already been done. They're an inconvenience left in.
Pull the bloody balance shafts too...
I was literally just about to message you regarding the balance shaft. Thanks for answering if I can just give it the flick.

There is some obvious wear on the dogs and cogs on the output shaft, and one or two surfaces on the other.

Scrivy had to get solid selector pivot rods for the Busa too, sounds common to Suzuki.

[Grumph]

I was literally just about to message you regarding the balance shaft. Thanks for answering if I can just give it the flick.

There is some obvious wear on the dogs and cogs on the output shaft, and one or two surfaces on the other.

Scrivy had to get solid selector pivot rods for the Busa too, sounds common to Suzuki.

The ZX14 had aftermarket alloy replacement for the balance shaft, very nice waisted piece. Doesn't have to be that fancy, turn up something to fill the hole when it's removed. Crank wasn't rebalanced, solid mount in a car, no complaints....

[Drew]

The ZX14 had aftermarket alloy replacement for the balance shaft, very nice waisted piece. Doesn't have to be that fancy, turn up something to fill the hole when it's removed. Crank wasn't rebalanced, solid mount in a car, no complaints....

Balance shaft in the 12 has a removable spindle so that it can be timed up, as it mounts in the bottom half of the cases. We'll just take the lump and put the spindle back in.

[Drew]

Gears are back from being undercut, assembly tomorrow and we're ready for Wanganui.

Even had the dungeon serviced this week.

[Kickaha]

Even had the dungeon serviced this week.
Doing better than me, meant to get the van back next Wednesday

[sidecar bob]

Doing better than me, meant to get the van back next Wednesday

Buy a Mercedes, my life got immeasurably better when I inflicted the transit on Corey.

[Kickaha]

Buy a Mercedes, my life got immeasurably better when I inflicted the transit on Corey.

Need to sell the Transit first, although the V8 powered Box Body Transit on TM would do me

[scrivy]

Hey drewpy, is this the kinda gearbox you have in the kwaka????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__lheqeERb4

[Shaun Harris]

Hey drewpy, is this the kinda gearbox you have in the kwaka????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__lheqeERb4


looks like a false nuteral mate

[scrivy]

looks like a false nuteral mate

Did you mean false neutral, nuteral, nutjob, neuter or what??? :bleh:

[Shaun Harris]

Did you mean false neutral, nuteral, nutjob, neuter or what??? :bleh:


fuk noes:Police:

[scrivy]

fuk noes[emoji14]olice:
Did you mean fuck knows, fuk noes, fuk nos, fuck nos, fuk knows, fuck noes or fuck nose??
Im confused.......

Damn phone....

[Drew]

Hey drewpy, is this the kinda gearbox you have in the kwaka????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__lheqeERb4
I looked into how they do that when Honda announced they're GP bikes. Would love one, but we're a while away from road bikes getting them methinks.

[Drew]

Well, Wanganui was good fun and the chair went great...after we plugged in the quick shifter plug properly. Fuck it!

We were set to leave the track in unfamiliar territory. It didn't need any work...untill Dee fucking Winter crashed into it as she was driving through the pits at the end of the day. STUPID FUCKING WOMAN.

[nzspokes]

Well, Wanganui was good fun and the chair went great...after we plugged in the quick shifter plug properly. Fuck it!

We were set to leave the track in unfamiliar territory. It didn't need any work...untill Dee fucking Winter crashed into it as she was driving through the pits at the end of the day. STUPID FUCKING WOMAN.

For some sadistic reason, that really funny.

[nodrog]

Well, Wanganui was good fun and the chair went great...after we plugged in the quick shifter plug properly. Fuck it!

We were set to leave the track in unfamiliar territory. It didn't need any work...untill Dee fucking Winter crashed into it as she was driving through the pits at the end of the day. STUPID FUCKING WOMAN.

What sort of a mongol has an accident And just sits in their vehicle seemingly uninterested?

[Kickaha]

We were set to leave the track in unfamiliar territory. It didn't need any work...untill Dee fucking Winter crashed into it as she was driving through the pits at the end of the day. STUPID FUCKING WOMAN.
How the fuck did she manage that?

halfway across Cook strait on the way home

[Drew]

How the fuck did she manage that?

halfway across Cook strait on the way home

No one can figure that out.

[Shaun Harris]

No one can figure that out.


Probally drunk again

[Drew]

Probally drunk again

Even drunk it doesn't make sense.

[Shaun Harris]

Even drunk it doesn't make sense.


I will leave my thoughts where they are dude, for once in my life

[Drew]

Can't change a thread title to 'FOR SALE' damn it.

[Grumph]

114 pages of fun and games and NOW you want to sell it.......

[Drew]

114 pages of fun and games and NOW you want to sell it.......

Was always the plan to get it as good as we could and sell it.

[Kickaha]

Was always the plan to get it as good as we could and sell it.

Upgrading or quitting ?

[Drew]

Upgrading or quitting ?

Upgrading. We love this shit.

[jellywrestler]

Upgrading. We love this shit.

are you getting a four cylinder machine?

[Drew]

are you getting a four cylinder machine?

I feel I'm missing a joke perhaps?

[Reckless]

you going long chair this time Drew?

[Drew]

you going long chair this time Drew?

Wash your mouth out.

[sidecar bob]

Wash your mouth out.

Or maybe a shlong chair?;)

[Drew]

Or maybe a shlong chair?;)

Somewhat...

[sidecar bob]

Somewhat...

Its still gay if the engine is behind you.

[Mental Trousers]

Can't change a thread title to 'FOR SALE' damn it.

Ask ffs.

[Drew]

Its still gay if the engine is behind you.I'm ok with that.


Ask ffs.
Cheers bro.

[MrMarko]

All i need is somebody mental enough to swing with me at the controls...

The government still run asylums where they shock people?

[scrivy]

All i need is somebody mental enough to swing with me at the controls...

The government still run asylums where they shock people?

That's where Drew got Al from..................... ;)

[Drew]

All i need is somebody mental enough to swing with me at the controls...

The government still run asylums where they shock people?Honestly, I can't see me putting up with you at the track for very long. Price would reflect thus.


That's where Drew got Al from..................... ;)
Nah, I found him wedged under a Hyosung and barrier on the Rimutaka hill.

[nodrog]

Are test rides availiable?

[Drew]

Are test rides availiable?

Could be. I am normally bribed with Ken.

[sidecar bob]

Is this machine eligible for entry in the recently established Super Munter Car class?

[Drew]

Is this machine eligible for entry in the recently established Super Munter Car class?

Without doubt.

[MrMarko]

Honestly, I can't see me putting up with you at the track for very long. Price would reflect thus.


Nah, I found him wedged under a Hyosung and barrier on the Rimutaka hill.

I dont talk to people at track anymore, people hate me anyway so best i just look after myself.

No skin off my nose.

[sidecar bob]

Cool, so who's riding it for the tri series? Or is it all short bike smoke & mirrors?

[Drew]

Cool, so who's riding it for the tri series? Or is it all short bike smoke & mirrors?

A young up and comer.

[sidecar bob]

A young up and comer.

So that's the smoke, where's the mirror?

[Drew]

So that's the smoke, where's the mirror?

He's got some fat chick swinging for him.

[Drew]

That was quick. Big red has a very excited new owner. As long as it is still going after Suzuki series.

[Drew]

After a measure up, the new chair is not a short long, or long short. It's less than 100mm longer than big red. Simply put, its a monocoque short chair.

[jellywrestler]

That was quick. Big red has a very excited new owner. As long as it is still going after Suzuki series.

whose riding it and are they doing wanganui?

[Drew]

whose riding it and are they doing wanganui?

Scrivy riding with Tina passenger.

[Drew]

Dunno about Wanganui yet.

[bucket boy]

. Big red has a very excited new owner s.

Now were all going to have to listen to him going on and on and on and on about it

[Kickaha]

Scrivy riding with Tina passenger.

She's not that stupid


Ah hang, she did marry Gordie, forget my first comment

[Drew]

Now were all going to have to listen to him going on and on and on and on about it

It's a hotrod bro. You should love it.

[Mental Trousers]

Remind to change the title sometime.

[Grumph]

Remind to change the title sometime.

Can I suggest "The Twilight Zone"

[Drew]

Can I suggest "The Twilight Zone"

I'm spinning out on pai killers at the moment. If I went back and read this whole thread that title would be boss.

[sidecar bob]

I'm spinning out on pai killers at the moment. If I went back and read this whole thread that title would be boss.

116 fuckin pages. Man there was some premo shit talked!!

[merv]

Maybe the new owner can get the thread renamed again and still keep talking shit because I don't mind hearing that stuff :cool:

[Drew]

I don't think Craig is on here to continue the thread. His potential swinger os an engineer though. So there's much potential for the old girl to get chopped up again.

[merv]

I thought Scrivy's name was Andy lol :weird:

[sidecar bob]

I thought Scrivy's name was Andy lol :weird:

Correct, but it's a long story that also involves a Craig. God knows, I can barely keep up.

[merv]

Yeah just having the boys on :yes:

[Drew]

Correct, but it's a long story that also involves a Craig. God knows, I can barely keep up.

Are you losing it bro?

Craig is buying the chair, after Suzuki series which Andy is riding.

[bucket boy]

Are you losing it bro?

Craig is buying the chair, after Suzuki series which Andy is riding.

Hes probly not in the loop and been told yet

[Drew]

Hes probly not in the loop and been told yet

I'll text Craig and get him to go round and explain it all.

[sidecar bob]

Are you losing it bro?

Craig is buying the chair, after Suzuki series which Andy is riding.

If nobody tells me anything, how does that amount to losing it?
The tri series rider & passenger haven't mentioned a squeak about it to me personally.

[bucket boy]

If nobody tells me anything, how does that amount to losing it?
Secret squirrel....

[sidecar bob]

Secret squirrel....

Yeah, talk about long bike riders.:laugh: