External mic recommendations?

[Captain_Salty]

Want to try mounting an external microphone (with a good wind sock) somewhere near the exhaust, probably tuck it up behind the number plate. Will need 2m of cable to attach to the hero2 on my helmet. Have seen some cheapies used with success on youtube but I'm wondering if a self powered mic is the way to go when a long cable is necessary?
Anyone done this?

[Tigadee]

You won't be needing 5.1 surround sound or anything like that, just good stereo minus wind... How about a standalone audio recorder or a cheapie video recorder and take the audio off that and splice it into your video?

[Captain_Salty]

even mono would be ok as I can split it into two tracks, but syncing sound from another device all the time would be a pain in the butt so I'd rather just plug in directly. Currently engine noise gets washed out above 70kph so anything that can pick up a reasonable tone would be good.

[Tigadee]

I think you only need a self-powered mic when the cable limits exceed a longer length, like 10m or something like that. 2 metres won't be a problem...

[eviltwin]

I just bought one and installed it today have a look...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yli_DwLAaRI

[eviltwin]

I bought this unit from photo warehouse,

there is a shop in chch too if you are interested

105 Fitzgerald Ave ( Cnr Fitzgerald Ave&Lichfield ST )

[MazTLR]

I bought one of those hand held mic's from Jaycar, for about $20 dollars,put it inside the tail section of the bike,had a loose plug connection in the video but most of the sound came out ok.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alC_DwnnoUM&feature=channel&list=UL

[eviltwin]

I bought one of those hand held mic's from Jaycar, for about $20 dollars,put it inside the tail section of the bike,had a loose plug connection in the video but most of the sound came out ok.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alC_DwnnoUM&feature=channel&list=UL



if you ever want to go riding with another TL Maz, buzz me, I'm always up for it - 021 444 158, cheers Shane

[Captain_Salty]

thanks eviltwin, your bike sounds awesome now

[eviltwin]

thanks eviltwin, your bike sounds awesome now

Cheers Capt'n, good luck!

[Tigadee]

I just bought one and installed it today have a look...

Very nice! :niceone:

[GTRMAN]

I think you only need a self-powered mic when the cable limits exceed a longer length, like 10m or something like that. 2 metres won't be a problem...


Self powered or phantom powered microphones require power due to the way they convert sound waves into electrical waveforms. A dynamic microphone requires no power (think of it working like a speaker in reverse) whereas a condenser microphone works on capacitance and requires an active circuit (read powered) the length of cable run really has nothing to do with it, stage mics routinely run through over 100m of cable before meeting the console.

A condenser microphone can generally handle a much higher SPL (sound pressure level) so you may find you can get a much better level before distortion if you use one. There is a lot more to getting a clean recording than just eliminating the wind noise.

Happy to talk over options if you are interested (I am a sound engineer)

[Tigadee]

Self powered or phantom powered microphones require power due to the way they convert sound waves into electrical waveforms. A dynamic microphone requires no power (think of it working like a speaker in reverse) whereas a condenser microphone works on capacitance and requires an active circuit (read powered) the length of cable run really has nothing to do with it, stage mics routinely run through over 100m of cable before meeting the console.

A condenser microphone can generally handle a much higher SPL (sound pressure level) so you may find you can get a much better level before distortion if you use one. There is a lot more to getting a clean recording than just eliminating the wind noise.

Thanks for the clarification and info... :niceone:

[Captain_Salty]

A condenser microphone can generally handle a much higher SPL (sound pressure level) so you may find you can get a much better level before distortion if you use one. There is a lot more to getting a clean recording than just eliminating the wind noise.

Happy to talk over options if you are interested (I am a sound engineer)

can you recommend anything under $100 ? I'm hoping it won't drain the camera's battery too much.

[GTRMAN]

something like this will do an awesome job. experiment with mounting it under the seat behind the side plastic.

http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/ATR3350

or this

http://replayxd.com/product/replay-xd-external-mic/