World Superbikes 2013

[DidJit]

We've got a thread for MotoGP 2013, so let's have one for WSBK as well. To start off, here's (http://www.paddockchatter.com/p/wsb-2013.html) a list of currently confirmed teams, riders and calendar.

[DidJit]

Someone to watch for in WSS: Michael van der Mark (http://motomatters.com/results/2012/11/27/jerez_wsbk_test_day_2_times_sykes_still_.html). Yes, just a test, but some positive and impressive signs there.

[Mental Trousers]

Great to see Guinters had a good test. He should do very well next year on the Aprillia.

I really want to see how the Ducati's go. All the early indications were that the 1199 is much faster than the 1198 was, but the first official test days they were more than 1 second behind Melandri. Still lots of development to go on them though.

[tail_end_charlie]

So now that Dorna own WSBK as well as MotoGP............what are the chances that they offer a online subscription to view all the tests and race weekends? Cause that would be really cool, and totally worth the price in my opinion.

[CHOPPA]

Looks to be a fair few ozzys entering as wild cards for PI.

I guess just the small rule of 17" wheels really helps, imagine the opportunities if they go even more standard in 2014

[steveyb]

So now that Dorna own WSBK as well as MotoGP............what are the chances that they offer a online subscription to view all the tests and race weekends? Cause that would be really cool, and totally worth the price in my opinion.

That's a really good point, hadn't thought of that.
Fingers crossed.

[tail_end_charlie]

That's a really good point, hadn't thought of that.
Fingers crossed.

I guess it all depends on what sort of contracts from InFront Sports are already in place with broadcasters. But yeah, fingers crossed.

[DidJit]

I believe the Eurosport broadcasting contract still stands (http://www.crash.net/world+superbikes/news/185597/1/eurosport_renews_world_superbike_tv_deal.html) for WSBK, so no online subscription ala motogp.com in the near future.

[tail_end_charlie]

I believe the Eurosport broadcasting contract still stands (http://www.crash.net/world+superbikes/news/185597/1/eurosport_renews_world_superbike_tv_deal.html) for WSBK, so no online subscription ala motogp.com in the near future.

Ok, thats all well and good for Europe, but what about the rest of the world? Couldn't they do the online subscriptions ala MotoGP for the rest of the world? I know the coverage in the US sucks ass (to put it politely) and is likely to get worse when the SPEED channel turns to all sports news instead of just motorsports (guess they'll have to change their name, maybe something like "SGC"..........sissy game channel). Are the any channels here that show anything more than just the race? And they only show the SBK race don't they? So there is no way to legally watch the supersport, superstock, or the EJC races. And that sucks.

[DidJit]

WSBK first to get a crack at Philip Island's new surface (http://www.bikesales.com.au/news/2012/phillip-island-circuit-gets-a-facelift-34030).

[roogazza]

WSBK first to get a crack at Philip Island's new surface (http://www.bikesales.com.au/news/2012/phillip-island-circuit-gets-a-facelift-34030).

I read somewhere that Stoner was to give input, or wanted to? So that the character of the circuit was not lost/altered.What that meant I don't know,as the idea is to remove the bumps.

Speaking of bumps it'd be nice if money was available to slap a new coat on Manfeild.

[miper]

I read somewhere that Stoner was to give input, or wanted to? So that the character of the circuit was not lost/altered.What that meant I don't know,as the idea is to remove the bumps.

Speaking of bumps it'd be nice if money was available to slap a new coat on Manfeild.

Manfield has listened.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/manawatu-standard/news/7846969/Manfeild-gets-charity-funds-boost

[DidJit]

WSBK grid shrinking (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2012/Dec/121220wsbk155.htm)?

Oh, and here is Carlos Checa's and Ayrton Badovini's new steed (http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/racing/ducati-1199-panigale-rs13-video/)...

[DidJit]

Press release from PTR Honda with Simon Buckmaster’s take on cost savings (http://motomatters.com/press_release/2013/01/03/ptr_press_release_simon_buckmaster_on_me.html) in WSS...

[raziel1983]

WSBK first to get a crack at Philip Island's new surface (http://www.bikesales.com.au/news/2012/phillip-island-circuit-gets-a-facelift-34030).

Now all they need is new grandstand seating, I am NOT a sardine..

[tail_end_charlie]

I would have to agree with Soup on this one, it kinda sounds like Dorna is trying to emancipate (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Jan/130104a.htm) WSBK so that it isn't it as much competition for MotoGP. But then again, I would like to see a WSBK where the machines raced are some resemblance to what you could buy off the showroom floor. Don't know what they hell they are going to use for this 250 racing though, Ninja's and Hyoshits? Surely they wouldn't go and use the Moto3 type machines for that, cause that would be a double up of prototype 250 racing, and not production 250.

[tail_end_charlie]

So, I'm very interested to see the rules for the Dorna's new 250 proddie class for WSBK (http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/racing/world-superbike-dorna-superstock-250cc-class/). It would be funny as hell if they said up to 4 cylinder 250cc. You would see every team out there running 20 year old MC22's in circles around the 250 twins 'sportbikes' that are porduced today.

Obviously they won't do that, and the rules will probably stipulate singles or twins, but still. And what about people taking a 250 MX bike, modding the suspension, and throwing it out on track with fairings? Would they run circles around a Ninja 250, Hyoshit, or Honda 250? I'm sure that some of you that have expierance in 250 proddie right now would have an opinion on that?

[Reckless]

Bit if concerned info here on WSB?

http://www.paddockchatter.com/2013/01/what-is-going-on-with-world-superbikes.html#more

Some interesting articles if you go to the main site :)

[denill]

Bit if concerned info here on WSB?

http://www.paddockchatter.com/2013/01/what-is-going-on-with-world-superbikes.html#more

Some interesting articles if you go to the main site :)

Have I missed something. Are Haslam, Guintoli and Sykes not riding WSBK in 2013?

[tail_end_charlie]

Have I missed something. Are Haslam, Guintoli and Sykes not riding WSBK in 2013?

Nope, you haven't missed anything, just miss-understood the article I think. They are still racing in WSBK 2013 (http://www.paddockchatter.com/p/wsb-2013.html), the article was just presenting an opinion on the seeming cliff face that wsbk is looking at right now. With such a small grid this year, and the big changes that are rumored to be coming from Dorna, the fear mongers are out beating the bushes about how it will all end in a few years. Personally, I'm not too worried about wsbk going down the drain, not when they have great racing like last year, and MotoGP has a freakin' boring procession. Now if we could just get a MotoGP.com subscription for WSBK so that I could actually watch the races..................

[tail_end_charlie]

Bit if concerned info here on WSB?

http://www.paddockchatter.com/2013/01/what-is-going-on-with-world-superbikes.html#more

Some interesting articles if you go to the main site :)

Props for finding that site, I havne't seen it before but it looks pretty good after a quick look through.

[denill]

Nope, you haven't missed anything, just miss-understood the article I think.

Thanks. After I posted it dawned that the writer was just thinking out loud..............

[scracha]

Now if we could just get a MotoGP.com subscription for WSBK so that I could actually watch the races..................
http://www.666sicco.hostingsiteforfree.com/

[DidJit]

Price caps (http://motomatters.com/news/2013/01/14/wsbk_bikes_to_be_price_capped_at_250000_.html) in WSBK?

[tail_end_charlie]

http://www.666sicco.hostingsiteforfree.com/

Cheers for that, bookmarked and I'll see how well it works this year.


Price caps (http://motomatters.com/news/2013/01/14/wsbk_bikes_to_be_price_capped_at_250000_.html) in WSBK?

"Carmelo Ezpeleta said that their aim is to have all manufacturers supply teams with bikes at a cost of 250,000 euros per rider. Included in that amount would be two bikes per rider, and full support to complete an entire season. Only crash damage would be excluded from the quarter of a million per season, that being a cost which is outside the control of the factories."

So what exactly would be included in the 'full support to complete an entire season'? Does that include all 30 some engines that some teams use? And how exactly are they going to check that the teams only pay the 250k? What happens when a manufacture makes 6 packages, 4 speced at 250k for the privateer teams and 2 speced for the factory team (at whatever cost, but sold to the 'team' for 250k)?

From my point of view Price Caps are very hard to enforce, and rules not enforced are more useless than the rule not existing.

[Wingnut]

Price caps (http://motomatters.com/news/2013/01/14/wsbk_bikes_to_be_price_capped_at_250000_.html) in WSBK?

It does read that they are dumbing it down somewhat... Call it World Superstock soon...

I hope all these changes are for the benefit of the WSBK Championship as it would be ultra disappointing to see its demise!

Is Dorna just another evil corporate monster???

[tail_end_charlie]

And I wonder if anyone will run the Ducati 1098R this year? I know that they dropped the 6kg weight penalty for the 1199, but does that apply to all the 1200cc twins?

[Cleve]

More updates for WSBK this year http://www.motomatters.com/news/2013/01/15/world_superbike_calendar_facing_shake_up.html

[DidJit]

Bit of a rollercoaster ride for WSBK — and the season’s not yet begun!

[tail_end_charlie]

Bit of a rollercoaster ride for WSBK — and the season’s not yet begun!

Yeah, but thank goodness we have a respectable organization leading WSBK though this difficult time and we can be confident that they (Dorna) will do everything in their power to keep WSBK as a true world class series and maintain the interest of its giant fanbase with quality racing and spectacle......................................... .........oh wait. :(

[DidJit]

Swish new look for Pata Honda (http://motomatters.com/press_release/2013/01/20/pata_honda_reveal_2013_world_superbike_l.html) (Ten Kate)...

[Mental Trousers]

Swish new look for Pata Honda (http://motomatters.com/press_release/2013/01/20/pata_honda_reveal_2013_world_superbike_l.html) (Ten Kate)...

The 600 looks great in that lot but I've never liked the look of the CBR1000RR at all.

[tail_end_charlie]

Swish new look for Pata Honda (http://motomatters.com/press_release/2013/01/20/pata_honda_reveal_2013_world_superbike_l.html) (Ten Kate)...

Anybody else notice the scallops on the forks for the CBR1000RR? I haven't seen it done like that before.

[DidJit]

I guess not. What part of the forks are you referring to, TEC?

On another note, I'm looking forward to seeing how this young fella (http://www.biscuittinmedia.com/cluzel-and-suzuki-wsb-a-smart-move/) goes this season...

[roogazza]

I guess not. What part of the forks are you referring to, TEC?

On another note, I'm looking forward to seeing how this young fella (http://www.biscuittinmedia.com/cluzel-and-suzuki-wsb-a-smart-move/) goes this season...

Yes, he is always up the front somewhere, plus1 didjit.

[Mental Trousers]

I guess not. What part of the forks are you referring to, TEC?

The fork outer tubes are fluted or something.

[tail_end_charlie]

I guess not. What part of the forks are you referring to, TEC?


The fork outer tubes are fluted or something.

Yep, MT see's it. Let's see if I can get the big picture uploaded.

Zoom in on the forks (http://motogpmatters.smugmug.com/World-Superbikes/2013/Pata-Honda-Launch/i-P4K4pvg/0/O/5582_cbr1000rr_rea_4.jpg) and you'll see what I'm talking about.

And MT's description of "fluted" is probably better than "scalloped". I know that the Ohlins NIX30's used on the Daytona 675R have one side of the fork shaved (mirrored on the other fork tube) which is suppose to allow them to 'tune' the amount of flex in the fork tube itself............(I think). I would suspect that that "fluting" on the Honda's are trimming some weight on the fork tubes while maintaining strength.

[Kiwi Graham]

Mmmm not sure it would save weight, may even add a little but certainly add stiffness.
I'm sure Dr Bob will be along to explain all since he's back from his three week break down south ;)

[merv]

Might aid cooling too.

[DidJit]

Yep, MT see's it. Let's see if I can get the big picture uploaded...

Well spotted. :niceone:


... I'm sure Dr Bob will be along to explain...

Looking forward to it. Stiffness under braking, flex when leaned over?

[tail_end_charlie]

Mmmm not sure it would save weight, may even add a little but certainly add stiffness.
I'm sure Dr Bob will be along to explain all since he's back from his three week break down south ;)

Someone needs to throw out a compliment about Helen Clark................I'm sure that the Dr's 6th sense will hone in on KB and track down the offending post whereby he might just read the rest of the thread and after a long rant..................provide some answers. :innocent::whistle:

[Dodgyiti]

The latest SKY Guide does not have the Feburary race listed in the Motorsport section. Am I prematurely freaking out or is it an omission?
:facepalm:

[benfan]

I noticed that too and phoned Sky on Saturday. They had no programmers available and said they would get someone back to me today (Tuesday 29th Jan) as Monday was a holiday in Auckland. I haven't heard anything yet.

Note that on Sky Sport Highlights for Sunday 24th it lists "Superbikes Highlights" but no mention of what time, or how long for.

My suggestion is that the more people that ring, the more chance we might have. 0800 759 759

I don't mind if we get it delayed - just so long as we get the whole thing including the pre-race buildup when we sometimes learn all sorts of pit gossip etc, and the post race interviews.

The Sky website doesn't even list Motorsport as a heading - at least not that I could see.

[Kornholio]

GSXR FtW!!!!! :Punk:

[pritch]

I don't mind if we get it delayed - just so long as we get the whole thing

Actually, since it's Phillip Island the buggers could show it live.

[Kornholio]

Actually, since it's Phillip Island the buggers could show it live.

They normally do unless there is something important like World Xtreme Croquet champs on live at the same time, and sometimes it's a replay!!....

[denill]

I noticed that too and phoned Sky on Saturday. They had no programmers available and said they would get someone back to me today (Tuesday 29th Jan) as Monday was a holiday in Auckland. I haven't heard anything yet.

Note that on Sky Sport Highlights for Sunday 24th it lists "Superbikes Highlights" but no mention of what time, or how long for.

My suggestion is that the more people that ring, the more chance we might have. 0800 759 759

I don't mind if we get it delayed - just so long as we get the whole thing including the pre-race buildup when we sometimes learn all sorts of pit gossip etc, and the post race interviews.

The Sky website doesn't even list Motorsport as a heading - at least not that I could see.

Sent my email to
skytv@mailap.custhelp.com

[benfan]

I came home tonight to a voicemessage from Sky.

Yes, they do have the rights to screen WSBK.

They will be screening Phillip Island on Sky Sport 1 from 1.45pm on Sunday 24th Feb. They suggested keeping an eye on the EPG.

I can breathe again now.

[Geeen]

I came home tonight to a voicemessage from Sky.

Yes, they do have the rights to screen WSBK.

They will be screening Phillip Island on Sky Sport 1 from 1.45pm on Sunday 24th Feb. They suggested keeping an eye on the EPG.

I can breathe again now.

Oh thank fuck for that!! I was getting worried

[denill]

They will be screening Phillip Island on Sky Sport 1 from 1.45pm on Sunday 24th Feb. They suggested keeping an eye on the EPG..

Phew...................

BTW, what's "the EPG" ?

[benfan]

EPG = "Electronic Programme Guide"....which of course we can't see till about 7 days before the programme.

Why the programme isn't listed in the Feb SkyWatch magazine I don't know, when it does mention the highlights, and the race schedule's been out for a number of months.

However, all is well and I'm a very happy chappy.

[tail_end_charlie]

Find your drool rag, here's some high res pics of the 2013 BMW Goldbet WSBK (http://www.sportrider.com/wallpapers/146_1302_2013_bmw_goldbet_world_superbike_team_wal lpaper/) bikes static and in action.

:drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool:: drool: :love:

[steveyb]

Loving the 'no burnie bootie on exhaustie' carbon cover. I want one for my bike.

[scracha]

Voted with my fee.....fingers. Cancelled Sky. Fuck em and their netball and rugger. Money better spent on more Interweb to watch superdooperbikes and irish road racing.

[steveyb]

Full entry list and schedule on MCNews website.
Only one NZ entry in entire programme.
That's a shame.

Go Al !!! Best of luck.

[DidJit]

Full entry list and schedule on MCNews website...

Linky (http://www.mcnews.com.au/MotorcycleRacing2013/WSBK/Rnd1/Schedule_Entry.pdf).

Word (http://motomatters.com/results/2013/02/14/2013_wsbk_private_phillip_island_test_da.html) is the new surface needs some rubber laid down.

[DidJit]

That didn't take long...

Paul Denning ‏@Paul_Denning


@leoncamier just did 1.31.2, lap record is 31.7... new surface better but that's still pretty fast!

[steveyb]

Then he went and high sided! Luckily only some bruising.
Hope Cluzels elbow heals quickly.
Ducati BBQ anyone?

[DidJit]

Live timing of the official test at Phillip Island on right now here (http://superbike.perugiatiming.com/) or at www.worldsbk.com if you log in to their ‘Energy Zone’.

WSS out at the moment and Michael van der Mark is proving to be very quick on his debut in the class.

[Pumba]

Just checked the Sky programme guide and they have WSBK Sunday 1.45pm & 5.00pm.

MySky is set to record, with series link enabled :niceone:

[roogazza]

Live timing of the official test at Phillip Island on right now here (http://superbike.perugiatiming.com/) or at www.worldsbk.com if you log in to their ‘Energy Zone’.



Just checked the Sky programme guide and they have WSBK Sunday 1.45pm & 5.00pm.
MySky is set to record, with series link enabled :niceone:

Thanks fellas, didn't realise it was that close. Been hanging out waiting for some real Road Racing again.(and would have missed that)
I'll be glued Sunday.
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[roogazza]

Was wondering how the Duc was coming along ?

http://www.motomatters.com/results/2013/02/19/2013_wsbk_official_phillip_island_test_d.html

[DidJit]

Looks like Carlos is coming to grips with the new steed, doesn’t it? WSS is also looking good — some exciting riders in there.

[Mental Trousers]

Newest bike on the grid is setting the pace? Somewhat concerning for the others.

Interesting that oldest bikes in the field, the CBR and GSXR, aren't far off the pace and have been sitting at the top of the table at times.

Chaz Davies needs to stop swapping bikes though.

My monies on Tom and the Green Machine for the title.

[RobGassit]

I see you can still use the 1098's. I thought they were off the list this year, not that they will be needed it seems.
http://www.mcnews.com.au/MotorcycleRacing2013/WSBK/FIM_homologated.pdf

[merv]

Funny eh, a two cylinder Duc can still foot it with an extra 200cc unlike in MotoGP where the four cylinder is off the pace - no extra 200cc allowed for the "foreign" brand there lol.

[roogazza]

Funny eh, a two cylinder Duc can still foot it with an extra 200cc unlike in MotoGP where the four cylinder is off the pace - no extra 200cc allowed for the "foreign" brand there lol.
As long as the BMwuble u does good, so that Mrs Melandri can jump around a bit !!!!!!! :drool::rolleyes:

[Mental Trousers]

Are there any teams going with the MV 675 in Super Sport?

[tail_end_charlie]

As long as the BMwuble u does good, so that Mrs Melandri can jump around a bit !!!!!!! :drool::rolleyes:

:yes:I very much appreciate the fact that she gets more air time than he does. :love:


Are there any teams going with the MV 675 in Super Sport?

Yep, ParkinGo MV Agusta Corse team is running two bikes. Riders are Roberto Rolfo and Christian Iddon.

[slowpoke]

Looks like Carlos is coming to grips with the new steed, doesn’t it? WSS is also looking good — some exciting riders in there.

Good to see It's early days, but it's just does my head in that Ducati have gotten so close to the mark with the 1199, and are so completely lost with the D16 in MotoGP..

[Cleve]

Are there any teams going with the MV 675 in Super Sport?

Robbie Rolfo and some one else is on them

[Ntoxcated]

Superbike - Results Free Practice 1st Session
Phillip Island, 22-23-24 February 2013

No. Rider Nat Team Bike Time Gap Rel. Laps Avg Speed Max

1 84 M. FABRIZIO ITA Red Devils Roma Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'31.218 24 175,426 318,6
2 91 L. HASLAM GBR Pata Honda World Superbike Honda CBR1000RR 1'31.728 0.510 0.510 16 174,451 313,0
3 2 L. CAMIER GBR Fixi Crescent Suzuki Suzuki GSX-R1000 1'31.803 0.585 0.075 21 174,308 309,5
4 50 S. GUINTOLI FRA Aprilia Racing Team Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'31.964 0.746 0.161 16 174,003 320,5
5 19 C. DAVIES GBR BMW Motorrad GoldBet SBK BMW S1000 RR 1'32.046 0.828 0.082 19 173,848 315,8
6 33 M. MELANDRI ITA BMW Motorrad GoldBet SBK BMW S1000 RR 1'32.057 0.839 0.011 7 173,827 314,9
7 66 T. SYKES GBR Kawasaki Racing Team Kawasaki ZX-10R 1'32.113 0.895 0.056 13 173,721 309,5
8 65 J. REA GBR Pata Honda World Superbike Honda CBR1000RR 1'32.158 0.940 0.045 18 173,637 312,1
9 7 C. CHECA ESP Team Ducati Alstare Ducati Panigale 1199R 1'32.171 0.953 0.013 7 173,612 305,9
10 34 D. GIUGLIANO ITA Althea Racing Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'32.315 1.097 0.144 19 173,341 311,2
11 58 E. LAVERTY IRL Aprilia Racing Team Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'32.339 1.121 0.024 21 173,296 316,7
12 21 J. STAUFFER AUS Team Honda Racing Honda CBR1000RR 1'32.512 1.294 0.173 16 172,972 297,5
13 27 M. NEUKIRCHNER GER MR-Racing Ducati Panigale 1199R 1'32.740 1.522 0.228 16 172,547 301,7
14 18 I. CLEMENTI ITA HTM Racing BMW S1000 RR 1'32.752 1.534 0.012 17 172,525 301,7
15 5 A. LUNDH SWE Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R 1'32.866 1.648 0.114 18 172,313 299,2
16 76 L. BAZ FRA Kawasaki Racing Team Kawasaki ZX-10R 1'32.882 1.664 0.016 18 172,283 305,9
17 14 G. ALLERTON AUS Next Gen Motorsports BMW S1000 RR 1'32.935 1.717 0.053 17 172,185 305,1
18 86 A. BADOVINI ITA Team Ducati Alstare Ducati Panigale 1199R 1'33.006 1.788 0.071 8 172,053 307,7
19 16 J. CLUZEL FRA Fixi Crescent Suzuki Suzuki GSX-R1000 1'33.172 1.954 0.166 19 171,747 311,2
20 31 V. IANNUZZO ITA Grillini Dentalmatic SBK BMW S1000 RR 1'33.473 2.255 0.301 12 171,194 302,5
21 23 F. SANDI ITA Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R 1'34.313 3.095 0.840 17 169,669 305,9

[Cleve]

Robbie Rolfo and some one else is on them

3. Roberto Rolfo (ParkinGo MV Agusta Corse) MV Agusta F3 675 1'34.081
10. Christian Iddon (ParkinGo MV Agusta Corse) MV Agusta F3 675 1'34.551
in QP1

[DidJit]

Sam Lowes (http://www.worldsbk.com/en/news/45-ssp-news/16167-lowes-to-an-all-new-level-in-qualifying-1.html)!

[roogazza]

Sam Lowes (http://www.worldsbk.com/en/news/45-ssp-news/16167-lowes-to-an-all-new-level-in-qualifying-1.html)!
Mmmmmm looking good. New seal has sped things up somewhat huh Didjit ?
Jamie Stauffer in 12th for the first session, I'll be interested to see if he can stay near once they start getting into it ?
( & he's faster than anything NZs got, for comparison.)

[DidJit]

Yeah, good to see Stauffer and Glen Allerton mixing it up with the big boys.

[slowpoke]

Hmmmm, what MotoGP wouldn't give: 2nd qualifying and top 9 bikes all within 1 second, and 6 different manufactuers in the top 8.

[pritch]

Having watched the first round, there's promise of an interesting season.

[tail_end_charlie]

Having watched the first round, there's promise of an interesting season.

Agreed, bit of a bummer for Ducati though. What with Badovinni out and Checa's crash, that was a bit disappointing, hope he's alright.

[DidJit]

Having watched the first round, there's promise of an interesting season.

Hear, hear! :yes:

[roogazza]

Having watched the first round, there's promise of an interesting season.

Hear, hear! :yes:

Was an enjoyable day.Pushed the button at 7am in near perfect weather for my Sunday fang. Coffee, cheese scone and cigar at Martin/B.
Home for lunch and the WSB on my 60in !
What more could an old boy wish for ?

[Kornholio]

Was an enjoyable day.Pushed the button at 7am in near perfect weather for my Sunday fang. Coffee, cheese scone and cigar at Martin/B.
Home for lunch and the WSB on my 60in !
What more could an old boy wish for ?

Hip replacement?? :scratch:

[roogazza]

Hip replacement?? :scratch:

http://www.motomatters.com/news/2013/02/28/melandri_shoulder_surgery_declared_a_suc.html

Hell, had some arthritis removed ! Gotta get me some of that !

[slowpoke]

http://www.motomatters.com/news/2013/02/28/melandri_shoulder_surgery_declared_a_suc.html

Hell, had some arthritis removed ! Gotta get me some of that !

I dunno Gaz, if Manu was helping you with a decent warm-up I reckon you'd be raring to go!

[roogazza]

I dunno Gaz, if Manu was helping you with a decent warm-up I reckon you'd be raring to go!
We missed her , though the replacement wasn't hard to gaze at was she ?

[DidJit]

Meet Dorna’s new WSBK boss, Javier Alonso (http://cyclenews.uberflip.com/i/116084).

[denill]

Meet the Dorna’s new WSBK boss, Javier Alonso (http://cyclenews.uberflip.com/i/116084).

Thanks for the link.

And I reckon this has to be one of the coolest shot ever. (From the link)


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[DidJit]

Quite a few good photos all through that publication. :yes:

[tail_end_charlie]

Not about WSBK per say, but it is about superbikes. More specifically an article comparing the 1980 CB750 to the 2005 CBR1000RR (http://powersports.honda.com/experience/articles/090111c0812237c0.aspx).

Now I wasn't even around in 1980, much less watching superbike racing, but it was an interesting read to hear how Spencer rode those early superbikes. May bring back memories for some of you old cogers.

[Robert Taylor]

Meet Dorna’s new WSBK boss, Javier Alonso (http://cyclenews.uberflip.com/i/116084).

Yep, hes a caveman and the idiocy has already started. Aftermarket ie proper race spec forks are prohibited 2014 onwards

[raziel1983]

Yep, hes a caveman and the idiocy has already started. Aftermarket ie proper race spec forks are prohibited 2014 onwards

Guess we'll be seeing better stock suspenders on our road(super)bikes after that then??

[Mental Trousers]

Guess we'll be seeing better stock suspenders on our road(super)bikes after that then??

Nope. Just better ways of fiddling what's there.

[Robert Taylor]

Guess we'll be seeing better stock suspenders on our road(super)bikes after that then??

That, if it ever happened would be a very positive by product yes. But, given that most of the showroom bikes are engineered or rather bastardised by accountants I wouldnt hold your breath for too long!
It is no small mercy that the new proposed rules will still allow the fitment of aftermarket cartridges, which in themselves make a huge improvement. But to not put too fine a point on it the issues with especially all the Japanese stock outers are huge. They are incredibly flimsy because there is so little metal in them and the publicity wa...rs pass it off as weight reduction.Cynically, much of this will in fact be cost reduction because there is less material! Even any low friction coatings are a very thin ''veneer'', rather than the 16 step coat and polish, coat and polish process on true racing forks. Because of this inherent flimsiness they distort / flex and bind up under deflective loads. They also wear out rather fast and will bend a LOT more readily with even the smaller accidents.
Evidence also the issues Craig Shirriffs had with aftermarket handlebar clamps binding up the forks. Sure the tolerancing and therefore the pressure points the clamps were placing upon the fork outers wasnt ''ideal'' but also consider that there is an abysmal amount of rigidity in the outer tubes. This demonstrates very clearly the amount of under engineering that is being passed off to a largely ( Im sorry ) gullible clientele.
Proper racing forks that are made for the job are in fact quite a lot heavier because they have metal in all the right places to make them more rigid and a whole lot less prone to binding under deflective loads
Its a sure bet that the engineers working on these bikes will be tearing their hair out, in going from working on properly engineered stuff to working with cheaply produced shite. This is the stuff we work with in NZ Superbike and if anyone thinks its a walk in the park I invite them to come along to our workshop when we are working with this stuff .
Compared to the 4 Japanese brands the forks on the BMW S1000RR stay in shape a lot better because of their bigger size, albeit there is more friction to contend with given that theres more bushing and seal area. Bikes such as the Panigale with the Ohlins road and track forks fitted ( albeit still a far cry from true race forks ) will theoretically have a technical advantage because the fork outers are a lot stronger.
Thankfully bikes that already have electronic controls standard are allowed to run with same and at least in theory that gives the Panigale another technical advantage ( maybe the rule changes are an Italian conspiracy .......) Likely this will drive more manufacturers to produce sportbikes with more electronic controls standard.

[tail_end_charlie]

Evidently Effenbert Liberty (http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/racing/effenbert-liberty-returns-wsbk-mark-aitchison/)are making another go at WSBK this year with Mark Atichison and the Ducati 1098R.

Be curious to know if they still have the 6kg weight penelty that they had to run last year??

[Geeen]

Evidently Effenbert Liberty are making another go at WSBK this year with Mark Atichison and the Ducati 1098R.

Be curious to know if they still have the 6kg weight penelty that they had to run last year??

Linky no go, try this this (http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/?s=effenbert+liberty&submit=Search)

[tail_end_charlie]

Linky no go, try this this (http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/?s=effenbert+liberty&submit=Search)

Doh! Left out one freaking set of quotation marks and shit don't work. Fixed now....

[Geeen]

No worries, at least I can watch this on TV:headbang: unlike the GP:mad:

[tail_end_charlie]

No worries, at least I can watch this on TV:headbang: unlike the GP:mad:

Ha ha, funny, I'm the opposite. I can watch MotoGP online, but don't have Sky, so I can't watch WSBK. :(

[Geeen]

Ha ha, funny, I'm the opposite. I can watch MotoGP online, but don't have Sky, so I can't watch WSBK. :(

If you aren't too worried about live check out THIS (http://www.666sicco.hostingsiteforfree.com/) link, all sorts of racing including WSBK.

[trev]

If you aren't too worried about live check out THIS (http://www.666sicco.hostingsiteforfree.com/) link, all sorts of racing including WSBK.

or www.racingfor.me/index.rfm?cls=32

[Mental Trousers]

or www.racingfor.me/index.rfm?cls=32

You'll probably find he's not a member so can't get to that.

[tail_end_charlie]

You'll probably find he's not a member so can't get to that.

Correct-a-mondo!

[trev]

You'll probably find he's not a member so can't get to that.

I just emailed them & said my old "racing-underground" password wasn't working so they gave me a new one. If you chuck them 5quid as a donation it will probably get you in. I chucked €10 to xspeeds & that got me into their site. They do bike racing, but RFM are quicker & have far more torrents so I've donated to them as well & will stay with them. X-speeds you have to keep donating but once you are in RFM donating is optional.

[roogazza]

http://www.motomatters.com/results/2013/04/12/2013_aragon_world_superbike_qp1_results_.html

:cool: :banana:

[DidJit]

And Sam Lowes broke the outright lap record in Supersport’s QP1 (http://motomatters.com/results/2013/04/12/2013_aragon_world_supersport_qp1_results.html) while Jake Lewis is running 4th (http://sbk.perugiatiming.com/pdf_results/pdf_frame.asp?p_S_Campionato=EJC&p_Anno=2013&p_Round=ESP1&p_Sessione=L1A) in the EJC after FP.

[Mental Trousers]

Good to see Jake is fast from the outset. Hopefully Sam and Connor work together to improve their times.

[Petrolic]

Currently superpole on first row for free. Lav and Sykes fighting it out. 2am nz

[Petrolic]

Davis got a last lap in by 1 sec and was down by 1/10 being followed by Sykes but had to pull out of a corner. Fanyastic superpole. Sykes got pole again but sadly I dout he will be infront on the sec lap as normal.

[roogazza]

Aragon tonight , first race 2130 hrs. SKY Sport.

[cmoore]

is it just me or has WSB lost a bit of sparkle this year? i like the junior cup idea though..

[slowpoke]

is it just me or has WSB lost a bit of sparkle this year?

Nah, it's just an awkward start. They have the Phillip Island Round at the end of Feb, then the next round isn't until half way through April....madness.

[mulletman]

Nice double win for BMW and Chas :Punk:

[DidJit]

F@#kin' nice win (http://sbk.perugiatiming.com/pdf_results/pdf_frame.asp?p_S_Campionato=EJC&p_Anno=2013&p_Round=ESP1&p_Sessione=001) for Jake Lewis (http://www.worldsbk.com/en/news/65-ejc-news/16615-lewis-1st-ejc-race-winner-of-2013.html/) in the European Junior Cup! Go the Kiwis! :first:

[roogazza]

Nah, it's just an awkward start. They have the Phillip Island Round at the end of Feb, then the next round isn't until half way through April....madness.

The future Mrs Melandri was back I see Spud.
Great to have her back. :sweatdrop:eek5::yes:

I hope the racing perks up a bit after that big gap between Rd1 and Rd2. Seemed a little flat to me too. Couple of leading slip offs and breakdowns didn't help. Like to see Checa get going on the new bike.

[Geeen]

That's if he can get it going properly with the air intake restrictions, oh, and avoid those pesky wasps.


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[slowpoke]

The future Mrs Melandri was back I see Spud. Yes! :clap:

Great to have her back. :sweatdrop:eek5::yes: Hell yes! :clap: :clap: :clap:

I hope the racing perks up a bit after that big gap between Rd1 and Rd2. Seemed a little flat to me too. Couple of leading slip offs and breakdowns didn't help. Like to see Checa get going on the new bike.

Yeah me too, but I reckon they kinda figured the 1199 might be a work in progress. The 1198 had what, nearly 30 years of evolution from the first 750 desmoquattro's back in '86-ish, so starting with a clean sheet of paper was always going to be a big ask.

Biaggi was a big personality and a big presence on track too, so it's gonna take a while for the reshuffled deck to sort itself out. We need a new black hatted bad guy to pop outta the woodwork (carbon fibre?)

[cmoore]

how exciting is this competition than aye......only 24hours from race one and...nothing on KB....maybe they should be racing in Moto3....:)

[tail_end_charlie]

how exciting is this competition than aye......only 24hours from race one and...nothing on KB....maybe they should be racing in Moto3....:)

Don't have Sky.................therefore can't watch any SBK.........................untill a few days after the race. Sad panda.

[DidJit]

Wet, cold conditions... That’s like writing about NZ at the moment.

Jake’s qualified 12th (http://sbk.perugiatiming.com/pdf_results/pdf_frame.asp?p_S_Campionato=EJC&p_Anno=2013&p_Round=NED&p_Sessione=Q1A) in the EJC; Sam Lowes is on pole (http://sbk.perugiatiming.com/pdf_results/pdf_frame.asp?p_S_Campionato=SSP&p_Anno=2013&p_Round=NED&p_Sessione=Q2A) again in Supersport with Sofuoğlu and Foret nipping at his heels; and in the big boys’ class, Tom Sykes is on pole (http://sbk.perugiatiming.com/pdf_results/pdf_frame.asp?p_S_Campionato=SBK&p_Anno=2013&p_Round=NED&p_Sessione=Q6A) again as well.

[roogazza]

how exciting is this competition than aye......only 24hours from race one and...nothing on KB....)

We're here lurking cmoore, I think 9.30pm tonite is the start time on sky?
http://www.motomatters.com/results/2013/04/27/2013_assen_world_superbike_saturday_roun.html

Losing Gp's from sky seems to have quietened things down on KB.
I'm sure the hard core will pop up soon ?

[pritch]

Nah, it's just an awkward start. They have the Phillip Island Round at the end of Feb, then the next round isn't until half way through April....madness.

Not really. Both the WSBK and MotoGP series are run over the northern summer - our winter. The weather in Phillip Island is variable at the best of times, so they try and make the races there as close to our southern summer as they can while trying to stay with the northern season - or close to it. Thus WSBK in Feb/March and MotoGP in October.

[DidJit]

Don't have Sky...


... Losing GPs from sky seems to have quietened things down on KB.

Dorna need to hurry up and offer WSBK in their video subscription as well. :yes:

[tail_end_charlie]

Dorna need to hurry up and offer WSBK in their video subscription as well. :yes:

Definitely

[Geeen]

Dorna need to hurry up and offer WSBK in their video subscription as well. :yes:

That's what I'm waiting for as well, hopefully next year we will get both

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[roogazza]

Dorna need to hurry up and offer WSBK in their video subscription as well. :yes:

Well if sky don't get GPs and no one else gets them, I'm just going to spend the kids inheritance and fly to more meets.
It's tuff but someones got to do it !!!:rolleyes:

[Badjelly]

Dorna need to hurry up and offer WSBK in their video subscription as well. :yes:

+1, but they won't offer it for free.

Prediction: next year Mrs Jelly & I will be paying 120 Euro for MotoGP, 80 Euro for WSBK (special discount price with the MotoGP package), and we'll still be forking out for Sky Sport because we don't want to miss out on the darts, or something. :laugh: Pathetic, eh.

[denill]

Well if sky don't get GPs and no one else gets them, I'm just going to spend the kids inheritance and fly to more meets.
It's tuff but someones got to do it !!!:rolleyes:

Be cheaper to fork out to Dorma tho Gaz? <_<

[roogazza]

Be cheaper to fork out to Dorma tho Gaz? <_<

Yeah Bill though, 4 weeks till I leave for the first one.:bleh::niceone:

[DidJit]

Skite. ;)

Sounds like The (http://motomatters.com/results/2013/04/28/2013_assen_world_superbike_race_1_result.html) Cathedral (http://motomatters.com/results/2013/04/28/2013_assen_world_supersport_race_results.html) delivered (http://motomatters.com/results/2013/04/28/2013_assen_world_superbike_race_2_result.html).

[cmoore]

WOW.....more proof no one finds this series interesting....and before the haters strike...I think it is a shame, super bikes are the premier series in most countries , seems wrong that the wsbk series is so boring...IMO.....there just doesn't seem to be any spice...I'm very happy for Kawasaki...melandri has disappointed, where the fuck is checa , no Yamaha....I dunno, early days but I'm not feeling it.

[pritch]

WOW.....more proof no one finds this series interesting....and before the haters strike...I think it is a shame, super bikes are the premier series in most countries , seems wrong that the wsbk series is so boring...IMO.....there just doesn't seem to be any spice...I'm very happy for Kawasaki...melandri has disappointed, where the fuck is checa , no Yamaha....I dunno, early days but I'm not feeling it.

Bloody Hell! I can't believe we watched the same races. Superbikes were good but WSS was brilliant.

[tail_end_charlie]

WOW.....more proof no one finds this series interesting....and before the haters strike...I think it is a shame, super bikes are the premier series in most countries , seems wrong that the wsbk series is so boring...IMO.....there just doesn't seem to be any spice...I'm very happy for Kawasaki...melandri has disappointed, where the fuck is checa , no Yamaha....I dunno, early days but I'm not feeling it.

Haven't seen the races yet. :no:
Can't bring myself to shell out $70 a month for Sky when all that I'll want it for is to watch WSBK (and maybe that F1 stuff but shhhhhh, don't tell anyone here.) :crazy:


Bloody Hell! I can't believe we watched the same races. Superbikes were good but WSS was brilliant.

The race reports that I've read seem to indicate that they were some good races. The finish chicane at Assen almost always serves up some last gasp action.

[denill]

Bloody Hell! I can't believe we watched the same races. Superbikes were good but WSS was brilliant.

The post race interviews show the genuine enjoyment most of the current crop of WSBK riders get from the cut and thrust they give each other out there, and there's plenty of that! Very much akin to club racers attitude to a 'hard' but (mostly) fair racing.

Whereas, if they try that in MotoGP they will be jumped, as was Simo!

That's what I really like about WSBK.....................

[roogazza]

I don't know Cmoore, I thought Assen dished up pretty good racing after the last one (Aragon). Some great fighting at the front with last lap moves.
Melandri didn't fair so well, which meant 'Manny' (that's her name isn't it ?) wasn't jumping around in front of the camera much . With those loooong legs and bouncy bits I Oooooh ! where was I ?

Anyway hope he does better next round. :rolleyes: :msn-wink:

[DidJit]

Bloody Hell! I can't believe we watched the same races. Superbikes were good but WSS was brilliant.

+1. :yes: :2thumbsup :woohoo:

[yod]

Bloody Hell! I can't believe we watched the same races. Superbikes were good but WSS was brilliant.

Bloody oath

Rea vs Guinters in race 1 :niceone:

[tail_end_charlie]

I don't know Cmoore, I thought Assen dished up pretty good racing after the last one (Aragon). Some great fighting at the front with last lap moves.
Melandri didn't fair so well, which meant 'Manny' (that's her name isn't it ?) wasn't jumping around in front of the camera much . With those loooong legs and bouncy bits I Oooooh ! where was I ?

Anyway hope he does better next round. :rolleyes: :msn-wink:

This man knows what to watch. Everyone should be backing Melandri. :2thumbsup

[pritch]

Melandri didn't fair so well, which meant 'Manny' (that's her name isn't it ?) wasn't jumping around in front of the camera much . :

Manu actually - short for Manuella (sp?). It was a bit chilly in Assen and Manu was way overdressed so we didn't miss anything.

[Mental Trousers]

Manu actually - short for Manuella (sp?). It was a bit chilly in Assen and Manu was way overdressed so we didn't miss anything.

That would be Manuela Raffaeta (http://www.google.co.nz/search?q=manuela+raffaeta&num=30&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=ZV1_Uc2MPMaaiQeWpoCQBw&ved=0CDgQsAQ&biw=1680&bih=862#imgrc=_)

[cmoore]

guys guys guys.....half the comments have been about Manu and her wonderful rack.....all true but does it not show that whilst there was some good racing, the championship itself is a bit flat.....how do you go from a 9 second win in the first race to second in the second race??

[roogazza]

guys guys guys.....half the comments have been about Manu and her wonderful rack.....all true but does it not show that whilst there was some good racing, the championship itself is a bit flat.....how do you go from a 9 second win in the first race to second in the second race??
I heard them say Lavatory wasn't happy in the first leg, the bike steered slower. Maybe he was happier and faster in the second.
Martin thought Sykes had cooked a tyre but obviously hadn't and came back to challenge in the last couple of laps.

Quintoli looks to be in a good place, has hurt himself a lot in the past.
That's the race, anymore on Manu ??? lol.

[cmoore]

best moment last season...Manu kissed Melandri's helmet when he won a race....the commentators said something about how much she likes to kiss his helmet.....then giggled for a few minutes....

[roogazza]

Boys and girls, Monza tonite Sky sport around 2130 hrs.

Sykes on pole with Laverty,Quintoli,and Rea close.
Very fast thru the forest Monza, luv it.:banana::banana:

[DidJit]

Word is there were a lot of close finishes and exciting racing through all classes.
And Jake Lewis got another podium in EJC! :niceone:

[roogazza]

Word is there were a lot of close finishes and exciting racing through all classes.

Nudge nudge wink wink, I didn't allow enough time copying the SS race so missed the last restart. :mad: Hectic stuff aye?
2nd leg awaits my leisurely afternoon today.
Luv the fast corners and drafting of Monza.:banana:

[carbonhed]

Great racing. Damn I wish Rea was on a quicker bike... he's having to ride the arse off it and that's going to end in tears. Great battle for the championship. I think Laverty has what it takes... calm, calculating and a very quick bike.

[Geeen]

Just finished watching both Superbike races, What a race in race 1!! I'm backing Laverty for the big prize and Melandri to start charging on from now.
Is Guigliano making anyone else nervous with his loosey loosey racing??

[macka77]

Just finished watching both Superbike races, What a race in race 1!! I'm backing Laverty for the big prize and Melandri to start charging on from now.
Is Guigliano making anyone else nervous with his loosey loosey racing??

hell sbks series is unbelivable!!! sky ditched motogp for a reason over priced and underwhelming if it wasnt for the new guy m.m. and the 600s motogp would be a dead rubber

[DidJit]

Only just got to see the races... How good is Sam Lowes in WSS! Those last 2 laps of the 10 lapper were amazing — passes where there shouldn't have been any!

[DidJit]

Usual (http://www.worldsbk.com/en/news/5-sbk-news/17128-sykes-clocks-the-new-best-lap-for-another-tissot-superpole.html) suspects (http://www.worldsbk.com/en/news/45-ssp-news/17133-lowes-will-be-the-pole-sitter-for-tomorrows-wss-race.html) on pole at Donnington.

Oh, and Nitro Nori will be making a wildcard appearance at Imola (http://www.worldsbk.com/en/news/5-sbk-news/17121-noriyuki-haga-back-to-wsbk-with-grillini-dentalmatic-team.html).

[sugilite]

Pole dancer Sykes again eh. He seems like a minute man, gets a good hard pole, but rarely keeps it up to the finish line.

[White trash]

Watch Sykes, Rea and Camier beat the shit outta each other all the way to the line. Melandri and Laverty will be casualties of those three battling. Guintoli will win or bin.

[DidJit]

Not bad, WT — Crasher might have won some $s off some of those predictions.

[Wingnut]

Where has Marco's Mrs gone??? I miss those big titties bouncing around :(

[Cleve]

Usual (http://www.worldsbk.com/en/news/5-sbk-news/17128-sykes-clocks-the-new-best-lap-for-another-tissot-superpole.html) suspects (http://www.worldsbk.com/en/news/45-ssp-news/17133-lowes-will-be-the-pole-sitter-for-tomorrows-wss-race.html) on pole at Donnington.

Oh, and Nitro Nori will be making a wildcard appearance at Imola (http://www.worldsbk.com/en/news/5-sbk-news/17121-noriyuki-haga-back-to-wsbk-with-grillini-dentalmatic-team.html).

Am a huge Nori fan - but last season in BSB he was very disappointing. Not sure he has it anymore...

[BIG DOUG]

Fark that kawasaki was planted the whole weekend not a hope in hell anyone was going to beat tom sykes.

[mulletman]

Well that was a bit hard case at Portimao, engines crapping themselves, Sykes gutsing off in R2 sighting lap and starting from the pits and....also Marcos rear tyre falling to bits ??

[DidJit]

Yep, ’twas a bit different this round. I hear the WSS race was a real barnstormer too with Sofuoğlu and Foret trying to work together to stop Lowes getting away only to have van der Mark join the fray as well.

[tail_end_charlie]

Soup on SuperbikePlanet (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Jun/130609qmachine5.htm) is reporting that the FIM has authorized the removal of the air restrictors on the Ducati's. :eek::woohoo:

Third paragraph down:
"Even though a slight improvement between the two races - still not matching early expectations - as per the application of FIM Regulations art. 2.4.8.1.3 Ducati will see the removal of the air restrictors on their 1199 Panigale R, starting from the next round at Imola (June 28-30)."

[roogazza]

Yep, ’twas a bit different this round. I hear the WSS race was a real barnstormer too with Sofuoğlu and Foret trying to work together to stop Lowes getting away only to have van der Mark join the fray as well.

Yep, some good dices in all three races, you'd have to put a dollar on Quintoli, he keeps plugging away. Like to see him get a couple more wins under the belt tho.
Sofogalot looked pissed, Lowes cheeky and confident.

[DidJit]

Yep, some good dices in all three races, you'd have to put a dollar on Quintoli, he keeps plugging away. Like to see him get a couple more wins under the belt tho.

Consistency is Guinters’ friend this season.


Sofogalot looked pissed, Lowes cheeky and confident.

Those last two laps... Fantastic! :niceone:

[roogazza]

Consistency is Guinters’ friend this season.
Those last two laps... Fantastic! :niceone:

Cheers Didjit, are we the only ones to follow WSBK ??? Maybe KB'ers don't have Sky ??? Good stuff wasn't it.

[slowpoke]

Cheers Didjit, are we the only ones to follow WSBK ??? Maybe KB'ers don't have Sky ??? Good stuff wasn't it.

No you aren't alone, I'm just sulking I'm stuck at work and haven't been able to watch it yet. I'm also a fan of Laverty, so a mech DNF is more reason to sook.

[Drew]

I watch all the races. Caught the last round yesterday.

Fuck I felt bad for Sykes.

Loved the pass in race one, on Milandri by Sykes.

Well done to Rae in race two. Who'd have thought that Honda would put such a shite bike out there year after year, when with a little improvement they could be winning?

[Mental Trousers]

Consistency is Guinters’ friend this season.

He's loving the Aprilia. It's a very similar bike to a 250GP bike and he rides them the same way. It's no wonder he's doing so well this year. Still, he's going to need another couple of wins or shits gonna get close soon.

[Drew]

I think you can expect at least one DNF from each of the front runners. If Guintoli has one, it's as tight as a bulls arse in spring time straight away for the championship.

Nice to see the Gixxer performing finally BTW.

[denill]

Cheers Didjit, are we the only ones to follow WSBK ??? Maybe KB'ers don't have Sky ??? Good stuff wasn't it.

I'm here Gaz and agree that WSBK provides REAL racing. But somehow it's MotoGP, for all it's many faults that is still the magnet?

[Mental Trousers]

I'm here Gaz and agree that WSBK provides REAL racing. But somehow it's MotoGP, for all it's many faults that is still the magnet?

It's like with Formula 1 - best machinery and best riders. Doesn't necessarily make for the best competition. But I'll always follow MotoGP regardless. I just like bike racing. In fact I've got more than 2.5TB of racing and race related stuff on my fileserver just cos I love watching bikes so much.

[denill]

In fact I've got more than 2.5TB of racing and race related stuff on my fileserver just cos I love watching bikes so much.

2.5TB............... You're not going to live long enough to watch it ;)

[Geeen]

Does anyone know what the deal was with Melandri in race 2, did his tyre lunch itself or was it bike issues?? On a side note, the Mrs found out why Manu wasn't at Donnington and seems to look not happy. Her and Marco confirmed a press release that she was 3 months preggers and has just miscarried, stuff like that has to really screw with your head.

[Drew]

Does anyone know what the deal was with Melandri in race 2, did his tyre lunch itself or was it bike issues?? On a side note, the Mrs found out why Manu wasn't at Donnington and seems to look not happy. Her and Marco confirmed a press release that she was 3 months preggers and has just miscarried, stuff like that has to really screw with your head.I thought it was a set up issue, rather than a tyre problem.

He was consistant throughout the race, just off the pace without as good an exit drive from the turns.

There was a shit load of rubber stuck to the underside of the tail though, so might have been a dud hoop that he managed really well.

[DidJit]

... Maybe KB'ers don't have Sky??? Good stuff wasn't it.

I don’t have Sky — YouTube is your friend. ;) Certainly was good viewing.


... I'm also a fan of Laverty, so a mech DNF is more reason to sook.


... Fuck I felt bad for Sykes.

’Twas a shame those two weren’t fighting in both races.


He's loving the Aprilia. It's a very similar bike to a 250GP bike and he rides them the same way...

Ah, I see, he’s proper gelled with the bike.


... Nice to see the Gixxer performing finally BTW.

She’s not quite there yet I don’t think... Getting close though. Would that also be why there are so few GSX-R600s in WSS — engine losing out to the other marques?


I'm here Gaz and agree that WSBK provides REAL racing. But somehow it's MotoGP, for all it's many faults that is still the magnet?

MotoGP is just the crème de la crème of riders and bikes (restrictive technological rules excepted, Robert). Funny to hear that the RSV in SBK (http://www.gpone.com/en/2013060510413/Biaggi-No-jokes-during-the-tests.html) uses an Öhlins DRSVP whereas the ART in MGP uses ye ole TTX...


“The only negative section of ART, compared with the Superbike one, is in the suspension. In MotoGP we use the Ohlins TTX, in Superbike the DRSVP, that are much more expensive. How much? Twice over.” — Gigi Dall’Igna


Does anyone know what the deal was with Melandri in race 2, did his tyre lunch itself...

Yes (http://motomatters.com/results/2013/06/10/2013_portim_o_world_superbike_sunday_rou.html).

[roogazza]

Does anyone know what the deal was with Melandri in race 2, did his tyre lunch itself or was it bike issues?? On a side note, the Mrs found out why Manu wasn't at Donnington and seems to look not happy. Her and Marco confirmed a press release that she was 3 months preggers and has just miscarried, stuff like that has to really screw with your head.
That's tough news for the couple to handle Geeen, was wondering what the problem was they were talking about.
Melandri suffering with tyre troubles is such a turnaround to the first leg where he had confidence to burn. Him and Quintoli are who I root for.

ps and ok , I was a little premature thinking there weren't many WSB fans by the number of posts. I take it back. :wacko:

[Drew]

ps and ok , I was a little premature thinking there weren't many WSB fans by the number of posts. I take it back. :wacko:Myself and Megageoff are so keen, we get his dad to tape the races on VHS, and watch them Monday nights.

Remember queing shit up on tape? Good times.

[roogazza]

Well done to Rae in race two. Who'd have thought that Honda would put such a shite bike out there year after year, when with a little improvement they could be winning?
Yeah Drew, Rea is a ball of talent, I wonder if he's hanging around for the new Honda SB or a Motogp Honda ?

ps you still have VHS ???????? lucky man !!!

[Drew]

Yeah Drew, Rea is a ball of talent, I wonder if he's hanging around for the new Honda SB or a Motogp Honda ?I don't think he raised enough eyebrows when he rode the GP bike, for him to get a ride. Plus, there's already a whinging pom in the paddock causing everyone enough grief. PT.

Honda haven't released any info on a new bike that I've heard of, I think the thing only needs a new motor anyway. Clearly handles well enough currently.

[Drew]

ps you still have VHS ???????? lucky man !!!Megageoff and his father have the only two still in service I think.

[roogazza]

Megageoff and his father have the only two still in service I think.
I resurrected one before I went on holiday so I can watch a whole lot of Gps I have on tape from the eighties. Crappy pictures tho by todays standards.

[Drew]

I resurrected one before I went on holiday so I can watch a whole lot of Gps I have on tape from the eighties. Crappy pictures tho by todays standards.Shit yeah, we each take turns squinting, to try and see what the lap counter is saying.:scratch:

[Badjelly]

It's like with Formula 1 - best machinery and best riders. Doesn't necessarily make for the best competition. But I'll always follow MotoGP regardless...

What he said.

[slowpoke]

Nice to see the Gixxer performing finally BTW.

I was thinking the same thing. Now if Camier can just get/stay healthy they'd be knocking on the door of a podium.


It's like with Formula 1 - best machinery and best riders. Doesn't necessarily make for the best competition.

People watch F1? Go figure..... (and this from a bloke who actually likes cars and motorsport in general)

[Mental Trousers]

People watch F1? Go figure..... (and this from a bloke who actually likes cars and motorsport in general)

Apparently. Almost half of the categories on racingfor.me are related to F1 so there's got to be one or two people out there that do.

[carbonhed]

Fabien Foret's lines in WSS just do my head in... they're like an offense against nature. :laugh:

[slowpoke]

Fabien Foret's lines in WSS just do my head in... they're like an offense against nature. :laugh:



As long as he beats that dirty lil' fucker Sofuoglu it's all good by me!

[Drew]

I was thinking the same thing. Now if Camier can just get/stay healthy they'd be knocking on the door of a podium. Yep, finished race one lapping at the same speed as Melandri.

It ainbt like Camier doesn't have the goods either, I think the bike just needs to be a little bit better in the opening laps.

[Tony.OK]

As long as he beats that dirty lil' fucker Sofuoglu it's all good by me!

But he does add great viewing to the races ya have to admit. Quite often my favorite class of racing to watch. Its just not the same when ya haven't got someone to hate on eh?

[DidJit]

... Quite often my favourite class of racing to watch. ...

Agree. WSS and Moto2. :yes:

[sharky]

Looks to me like Laverty has shouted Pippa a new set of tits!

[Drew]

Looks to me like Laverty has shouted Pippa a new set of tits!How good was Mrs Milandri looking all weekend though?



Is anyone else concerned, that Haslam's baby is gonna come out about the same size as him? Nearly choked on my beer when the camera zoomed in on his missus' belly.

[roogazza]

How good was Mrs Milandri looking all weekend though?
Is anyone else concerned, that Haslam's baby is gonna come out about the same size as him? Nearly choked on my beer when the camera zoomed in on his missus' belly.

I enjoy Melandri winning cos you get to see more of Manny.
Hey Quintoli has done bloody well for himself, have ya seen his wife ? She's quite stunning too.

[Drew]

Hey Quintoli has done bloody well for himself, have ya seen his wife ? She's quite stunning too.Blond bird with a quite retro hair doo?

[Mental Trousers]

Blond bird with a quite retro hair doo?

Yeah and two girls.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/964496_198591833598559_573241643_o.jpg

[roogazza]

Blond bird with a quite retro hair doo?

hahahaha Retro !!! must be my age , I thought she was hot !
I guess in modern speak she is 'Fit', huh ! No ?

ps Mental, I believe they have 3 girls and one in the oven !!!!!

Pity, with me she could've had twins !! :cool:

[Drew]

hahahaha Retro !!! must be my age , I thought she was hot !
I guess in modern speak she is 'Fit', huh ! No ?

ps Mental, I believe they have 3 girls and one in the oven !!!!!

Pity, with me should could've had twins !! :cool:Yes, very fit!

I didn't wanna say 50's haircut, (at least that's how she looked at the last round), because you would have asked, "which 50's hair cut" ya old coont.

We watched a lot of the second race of the last round on fast forward, on fast forward.

Way to go Sykes and Rae. Pommy fuckin take over! Just need Camier on the podium now and I'd be quite happy.

[roogazza]

Yes, very fit!

I didn't wanna say 50's haircut, (at least that's how she looked at the last round), because you would have asked, "which 50's hair cut" ya old coont.
Way to go Sykes and Rae. Pommy fuckin take over! Just need Camier on the podium now and I'd be quite happy.

Haha, Be nice to see the Suzuki, doing at least what Haslam did with it.
I don't know much about Camier, but he was a BSB champ no ? Poms are strong in WSB at the mo. Come to think of it we must be due a BSB round on SKY ?

[Geeen]

Haha, Be nice to see the Suzuki, doing at least what Haslam did with it.
I don't know much about Camier, but he was a BSB champ no ? Poms are strong in WSB at the mo. Come to think of it we must be due a BSB round on SKY ?

I think the next round of BSB is this weekend, hopefully I will remember to record it this time :facepalm:

[Geeen]

Just checked....

[yod]

Come to think of it we must be due a BSB round on SKY ?


I think the next round of BSB is this weekend, hopefully I will remember to record it this time :facepalm:

Yep, Snetterton this weekend

11:30pm Sunday SS2

[Drew]

Haha, Be nice to see the Suzuki, doing at least what Haslam did with it.
I don't know much about Camier, but he was a BSB champ no ? Poms are strong in WSB at the mo. Come to think of it we must be due a BSB round on SKY ?Max Neukerchiener was on form when he rode one, (and I think was leading the points race), untill that Ducati riding fag took him out on the opening lap a few years ago, and shattered the poor bastards leg into a million pieces.

I thought he had more form than Haslam to be honest.

[roogazza]

Just checked....


Yep, Snetterton this weekend

11:30pm Sunday SS2

Bewdy, ta to both of ya.

[roogazza]

Max Neukerchiener was on form when he rode one, (and I think was leading the points race), untill that Ducati riding fag took him out on the opening lap a few years ago, and shattered the poor bastards leg into a million pieces.

I thought he had more form than Haslam to be honest.

Because I didn't follow the BSB until a couple of years ago I wasn't aware of the little Haslam.
"Rocket Ron" was pretty handy in his day,if you can get your hands on some old races from late 80s with him on the ELF bikes and NSRs.

[roogazza]

So, WSB off to Russia this weekend ? It'll be interesting to see what sort of Circuit they have, I always associate Russia with snow somehow?

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[george formby]

Oy tink you can watch BSB & WSB on cricfree.tv this weekend if you can figure out how to get rid of the pop ups.. (go fullscreen...) Eurosport 2 channel.

[Cleve]

So, WSB off to Russia this weekend ? It'll be interesting to see what sort of Circuit they have, I always associate Russia with snow somehow?

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They were there last year. So we do know what kind of circuit it is.

[roogazza]

They were there last year. So we do know what kind of circuit it is.

Ooooh ! my bad, must have missed a few last year ??

Been more of a GP man until this year.

[Drew]

Ooooh ! my bad, must have missed a few last year ??

Been more of a GP man until this year.The track is sick man. Wait till you see them coming at the hairpin from teh limiter in top gear.

[Geeen]

Roogazza, here is race 1 from last year


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bNvuSmLCyc

[roogazza]

Cheers Geeen, gonna be good.
I've just discovered euro sport2 on Cricfree, I think it was ?

Big weekend, WSB GP and BSB !! This old dude is in heaven !

[yod]

Cancelled.

Superbike race 1 was run, Supersport was red flagged after a few laps (crash involving 2 riders) and sounds like the rain must have got pretty bad as they've cancelled the rest of the racing.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/superbikes-moscow-wsbk-superbike-supersport-races-cancelled-105133482.html

[yod]

oooo.....bugger.

I thought it looked like a nasty one but they said nothing at the time.

RIP Antonelli.

http://www.crash.net/world+supersport/news/193749/1/andrea_antonelli_dies_in_wss_accident.html

[sil3nt]

Amateur Footage of accident here.

It is rather graphic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oPt3X_5JjHE

[george formby]

Oh, that's grim. Race conditions in Moscow were appalling.




Anybody catch the 675 production race in BSB? Paint swappingly entertaining.

[Cleve]

RIP Antonelli. Horrible horrible crash.

[Maido]

Amateur Footage of accident here.

It is rather graphic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oPt3X_5JjHE

wow, posting a link to a guy being killed.

GG Kiwibiker.

[Tony.OK]

wow, posting a link to a guy being killed.

GG Kiwibiker.

Bad form that cocks would even put that on youtube!

[Duke girl]

Bloody Disrespectful to not only the rider involved, but also to his family, friends, other Supersport riders.
WHY was this allowed to be put on here??????
Horrible. :(

[denill]

Amateur Footage of accident here.

It is rather graphic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oPt3X_5JjHE

Not interested. :mad:

[sil3nt]

If you are not interested then dont click it. It is clearly labelled.

[Maido]

If you are not interested then dont click it. It is clearly labelled.


It is labelled clearly and I didn't click it as I am not generally "interested" in seeing people lose their lives, but whatever floats your boat.

People know where to find that stuff if they want to see it.

[Drew]

People know where to find that stuff if they want to see it.
Yeah...On here:weird:

[Geeen]

Anyway, what happened to Sykes bike?? Spat the dummy and oil and flames big time ( Almost made my wife cry)!! Do we reckon it can be classed as an 'electrical fault'??

Sympathies go to Antonelli's friends and family, never something you want to see on track.

[wayne]

just a flat battery , got it replaced and it fired up good

[Mental Trousers]

Anyway, what happened to Sykes bike?? Spat the dummy and oil and flames big time ( Almost made my wife cry)!! Do we reckon it can be classed as an 'electrical fault'??

It's always an electrical fault. Think you'll find that since the fines for running out of gas came in at tracks around here there's been an increase in electrical faults.

I did notice that once he was off the track he cracked the throttle hard open which was quickly followed by flames and liquids.

[Reckless]

Looks like Sykes thrashed it and it blew??

Commentary has it that way??

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/mD6Qd-HGtAc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[tail_end_charlie]

Looks like Sykes thrashed it and it blew??

Commentary has it that way??


Damn! That was impressive.

Wayne was right though, just a flat battery........................................... ....

[Mental Trousers]

From the onboard it did seem to stop. Guess he cracked the throttle open to try and clear whatever was wrong and it went pop. I'm sure the gossip sites will have lots to say about it.

[Reckless]

Damn! That was impressive.

Wayne was right though, just a flat battery........................................... ....


See the bloody oil fountain out! No sense in doing things by halves aye :nono:

[tail_end_charlie]

See the bloody oil fountain out! No sense in doing things by halves aye :nono:

I wonder if Chappy is taking notes? I didn't hear about any flames when his Kwikasfuki shat itself, he needs to up his game next time..........

[roogazza]

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Do we have anyone racing these things in NZ ? :facepalm:

[Drew]

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Do we have anyone racing these things in NZ ? :facepalm:'S all good. Nick Cole is no where near that ham fisted...Oh wait.

[Souther flags]

Maybe what they are going to use in sidecars

[Tony.OK]

285278

Do we have anyone racing these things in NZ ? :facepalm:

Now that would have been bloody spectacular had it happened on the starting grid when the red lights are on :crazy:

[lukemillar]

285278

Do we have anyone racing these things in NZ ? :facepalm:

Would make a good donor bike for a sidecar! :innocent:

[yod]

mmm....barbequed Kwaka!!

[DidJit]

Makes you wonder whether the manufacturers (http://motomatters.com/press_release/2013/07/24/bmw_press_release_bmw_to_end_factory_inv.html) themselves will make two series into one...

[Mental Trousers]

In case it wasn't clear in Didjit's post, BMW are pulling out of WSBK after the 2013 season

Same press release but from the official BMW Motorrad site.

http://www.bmw-motorrad.com/com/en/individual/news/2011/news.jsp?id=2343

That really sucks. One of the leading bits of gossip was that BMW were waving lots of money under Nicky Hayden's nose to move to WSBK.

[Geeen]

So where does that leave Marco (and Manu:D) and Chaz next year? Same team minus factory support??

[Tony.OK]

So where does that leave Marco (and Manu:D) and Chaz next year? Same team minus factory support??

Ya's hope so................kinda like Ducati did at the end of last season.

[tail_end_charlie]

So where does that leave Marco (and Manu:D) and Chaz next year? Same team minus factory support??


Ya's hope so................kinda like Ducati did at the end of last season.

My understanding this year (2013 season) was that BMW were dropping their direct factory team and picking up the BMW Italia team to run as their de-facto factory team, combining the personnel from both and loosing a few extra. So I would hope that they are just further pulling out their direct factory support (ie money) and the BMW Italia team will still run in WSBK next year. However, the way the announcement was put by Paddock Chatter (http://www.paddockchatter.com/2013/07/bmw-to-leave-world-superbikes-at-end-of.html) made it sound like Marco and Chaz will have to find new rides next year. So sounds very questionable to me, unfortunately.

[sugilite]

Suzuka 8 hour on this Weekend. Shwantz is doing it with Haga and Kagayama. I spose it's a long chalk chance, but what a fairy tale for Shwantz a win would be, especially after the crap he been through of late.
http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/193840/1/schwantz_optimistic_of_suzuka_8-hour_victory.html

[steveyb]

I recall the BMW CEO or head of racing saying that when they started winning WSBK races then they would move to MotoGP.

[Shorty_925]

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Do we have anyone racing these things in NZ ? :facepalm:

Seen the photo just before that where he's holding the throttle wide up? Sykes must have had enough of that engine.

[roogazza]

Seen the photo just before that where he's holding the throttle wide up? Sykes must have had enough of that engine.

Yeah saw that ! thought I was seeing things ???

[Drew]

Seen the photo just before that where he's holding the throttle wide up? Sykes must have had enough of that engine.


Yeah saw that ! thought I was seeing things ???

I was thinking it was running like a sack of crap after getting a mouth full of oil. He pulled off and held it open to try and clear it....BANG.

[boman]

Seen the photo just before that where he's holding the throttle wide up? Sykes must have had enough of that engine.

IIRC he laid it on its side during Qualifying.

That's why he was so far back in the field.

I guess it may have been starved of oil at some stage and decided enough is enough.

[wayne]

batteries dont have oil

[roogazza]

I was thinking it was running like a sack of crap after getting a mouth full of oil. He pulled off and held it open to try and clear it....BANG.
Yeah that too, must be frustrating for him. How many Tissot watches has he got so far ??? I've looked at a few while away but they were about $1500 !!!!!

[Geeen]

Yeah that too, must be frustrating for him. How many Tissot watches has he got so far ??? I've looked at a few while away but they were about $1500 !!!!!

He got enough to give his crew one each last year.... I think its up to 15 or so now.

Not sent from an iDevice

[Dogboy900]

Just watched that race... Wow what a mixed bag of weather, some incredibly brave riding going on out there and the championship is now wide open again!

My other half looked up at it as Skyes dropped his bike and said "Now that is an ANGRY walk" Didn't even look back!

[Shorty_925]

Here's the link to one of the pictures of him with throttle open : http://www.crash.net/world+superbikes/picturearchive/193824/2/photos