'76 Goldwing GL1000 "Deathwing"

[durp]

Been a while since I've posted. Been a bit busy. But been workin a lot on my latest project. Everyones always laughed when i tell em how lon ive wanted to do a goldwing bobber. Sounds ridiculous, cuz it is. But growing up, my dad took our family on camping trips all over the states. It was always on a particular 76 goldwing gl1000, with sidecar. The guy is a bit of a genius with bikes and mechanics, so he did a tremendous amount of work on the bike and sidecar. Made a back seat in it, and widened the front seat. So my younger brother would sit in the back, and my older brother and I would sit in the front seat. The goldwing had a supercharger he added. And a radical faring. Naturally the bike had a pretty unique sound. And gave me a lot of great memories growing up traveling on this thing with my family.

So for a long time ive wanted to build a goldwing to my liking out of nostalgic purposes. I bought this back in september, and while the weather was still nice (been in the states for a while visiting family) I spent most of the time riding it, minimal changes. But once it got cold enough I tore it apart and began doing the major stuff.

So starting the project thread for it.

When I bought it. Rode it home and only gave $400 for it.
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Next day i stripped a lot off, made a new taillight and plate bracket
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Picked up 2 spare motors for $75. Been building a really good one out of them. And sandblasted several parts, painting.
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Then chopped off all of the frame from the rear end. Making way to build a monoshock
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Sizing up the rail it wil mount on. Using a monoshock from old suzuki.
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All brackets and reinforcements are now welded on. Will still have a few more parts to reenforce, but unnoticeable.
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And have now chopped off all the bars on top. The gas tank normally sat underneath the seat. So i'm moving the gas tank back on top, and have to reconfigure the top bars to work with it. Next ill be making a bar to run through the middle, which will add more reinforcement for the monoshock.
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[ellipsis]

....cool shit...been a want to do to our 78 since my wife started riding her own bike back a few years...hardly sees the light of day now...alas not enough skills to do it...money or time...cant wait to see your finished project...I reckon the GL is a sports bike as much as they are trucks...

[paturoa]

And a thread like this is useless without photos!

[bogan]

Nice work!

Wouldn't have thought a goldwing had much potential, but, there you go :niceone:

[iYRe]

you sire, are a legend. When you're ready to road test that, I'd love to escort you (with appropriate cameras and stuff)

[ducatilover]

I like! I want a GL thou, but how in fuck did you get it for $400? :shit: They can be made in to a grouse cafe racer (cafe eater?)

[The Lone Rider]

Like the others, I like it.

Pity it's not done, as I think it would have made a very awesome article for the magazine. Especially since you appear to have cataloged the bike as you work on it.

[Paul in NZ]

Awesome.......

[98tls]

:niceone:Fantastic,will follow with interest.

[caseye]

An heres me spending days in my garage redoing shit that should not need it on my ol coal burner.
Great effort, more pics.
looking forward to seeing it finished.

[durp]

Thanks guys. Im still workin heavily on it. I'll hope to have a new post tomorrow night with some new updates.

Something i hand't mentioned but i think is the coolest part of the bike... when i bought it, it still needed a few things to replace. The drive end that was on it, for example, the splines were worn down so much on them it was surprising the wheel even moved. Carbs were pretty rough as well. And a few other miscellaneous parts. My dad happened to still have a lot of parts and spares laying around from decades ago when he was working on his old wing, that we used on all those family holidays. Many of the parts I needed, including the drive-end, came from the same goldwing he had that we spent all that time on. So not only is it cool bringing back such an old piece of machine, but being able to revitalize it with some parts with such personal history on them feels pretty good.

[AllanB]

Very cool. I've seen some very nice examples of cafe wings on the net.

[durp]

New neck welded on. Gotta start working on the wiring now.

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[Paulo]

Awesome work, I'll be watching this with interest:corn:

[The Lone Rider]

Is the seat going to be suspended? Doesn't look like anywhere to put a seat unless you're running some more framing or struts to suspend the seat over the mono/swing

[MIXONE]

Very impressed.Obviously you inherited your Dad's skills mate.

[onearmedbandit]

Great thread. Will be watching with interest.

[actungbaby]

Been a while since I've posted. Been a bit busy. But been workin a lot on my latest project. Everyones always laughed when i tell em how lon ive wanted to do a goldwing bobber. Sounds ridiculous, cuz it is. But growing up, my dad took our family on camping trips all over the states. It was always on a particular 76 goldwing gl1000, with sidecar. The guy is a bit of a genius with bikes and mechanics, so he did a tremendous amount of work on the bike and sidecar. Made a back seat in it, and widened the front seat. So my younger brother would sit in the back, and my older brother and I would sit in the front seat. The goldwing had a supercharger he added. And a radical faring. Naturally the bike had a pretty unique sound. And gave me a lot of great memories growing up traveling on this thing with my family.

cool i was actually surprised how well the chassis design is looks ahaed of its time esp the monoshock. in 78.

my wife wont go on my vfr but when where in the local honda dealship she said i like that bike poined at a gl 1800 only 44 grand hehe , because it had the back rest on the pillion , but rekon a side car for are son whould make for good fmaily machine.

how many miles or ks do you rekon the old girl done ?

[onearmedbandit]

cool i was actually surprised how well the chassis design is looks ahaed of its time esp the monoshock. in 78.



Look at the pictures at the start of his thread, it was a dual shock setup. He's changed it to monoshock.

[durp]

Is the seat going to be suspended? Doesn't look like anywhere to put a seat unless you're running some more framing or struts to suspend the seat over the mono/swing

Im still working out in my head how to do the seat. Pretty much because of what you talked about. It will be a challenge. I know how to do it structurally, but i wouldnt like the way it looks when finished. that part is going to have to wait until i can get a few more essential things planned.


how many miles or ks do you rekon the old girl done ?

I bought it with roughly 55,000 miles on it. I've personally only put 3 or 4,000 since i got it. The new motor has around 30,000 miles.

[actungbaby]

Look at the pictures at the start of his thread, it was a dual shock setup. He's changed it to monoshock.

yeah id thought they be dual shock esp the year, very impressive

[actungbaby]

Im still working out in my head how to do the seat. Pretty much because of what you talked about. It will be a challenge. I know how to do it structurally, but i wouldnt like the way it looks when finished. that part is going to have to wait until i can get a few more essential things planned.

yes good luck your doing exellent job by the way yes i rekon the back on the seat really makes these bikes suprising arent more models like it think seen bmw on the net with it.

I bought it with roughly 55,000 miles on it. I've personally only put 3 or 4,000 since i got it. The new motor has around 30,000 miles.

The motors look good dont they you know the orginal designed as a six like the new ones but then went to production where a boxer 4

[durp]

Made the intake box tonight. fits straight on the intake manifold just right. will have 2 intakes now, 1 on each side of the bike.

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[durp]

couple updates:

electrics all done. looks messy but ive cleaned it up more since taking this photo:

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Started building the seat, well the brace at least where the seat will be.

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[durp]

Seats done, minus the leather. Just gotta pick it up, stitch it, and finite.

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[ducatilover]

:2thumbsup it's coming along well mate

[ellipsis]

...cool stuff...our GL is ready for the change...your approach is a bit drastic for me...my new ride is going to be a street legal, blown, dragster...i'm even selling some treasures to fund it...cheers for the push...more posts when its getting there please...

[blackdog]

Not just sweet skills, but the imagination to spark it.

Well impressed.

[durp]

...cool stuff...our GL is ready for the change...your approach is a bit drastic for me...my new ride is going to be a street legal, blown, dragster...i'm even selling some treasures to fund it...cheers for the push...more posts when its getting there please...

Very cool be sure to post it up. Id like to see that.

Picked up a split tank from an old harley today. Get it close to fitted, gotta make some brackets yet, and rethink a couple of electronics. But heres how it will sit. I have a center piece from the faux tank that will weld on top joining the 2 pieces. Will look really smooth, and the speedo will be inside the center piece so it looks like its in the tank.

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[HenryDorsetCase]

I'm really loving this...

[hayd3n]

fantastic , and out of the norm

[ducatilover]

I see something with a V8 in the background, is it a BH?

I'm loving this beast.


Sent from my corner of no bike building skills

[durp]

Yeah that's a boss hoss. Should have seen the last one. Just sold for $30k

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[HenryDorsetCase]

I'm liking the old airhead beemer out the back too.

[durp]

Ran the carbs through the sonic cleaner. If you don't have one, get one. They're amazing. Carbs look brand new again.

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[durp]

"Wrapping" up the seat:

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Nearly finished. Just have to finish off the back end. Kinda tricky, so i wanna get it right. First time doin this after all.
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[The Lone Rider]

How did u go from pic 3 to 4? 3 has eyelets and tie, 4 looks like one fitted piece with no stitching.

Interesting way to do a seat pan. I've only ever seen cradled pans when they are going to be suspended like a streetfighter.

[durp]

Those were 2 separate steps. Pic for has leather wrapping from the bottom and glued on the other side. Its purpose was to hide the metal. Pic 3 shows how the leather wraps around over the top.

Just took another pic to show what I'm attempting here. This is unfinished and unrefined.
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[durp]

finished choppin up and welding the new bottoms of the tanks. Build the brackets next and join them.

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[Sable]

Cool dude, love those old GLs.

[durp]

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[durp]

It blew up!

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[wysper]

It blew up!



Did you let ducatilover near it?

[durp]

ha. No im half arab. Which is enough to make anything blow up.

Just me or does anyone else find sandblasting relaxing?

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And today I bought the very first actual thing to go on the bike. So far I've been able to reuse and fabricate

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And heres a better shot of how the intake i made sits on the carbs.

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[durp]

So after FINALLY finishing all the sandblasting, i've wrapped up all the painting this week. And have begun re-assmbly today.

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[HenryDorsetCase]

did you paint the wheels apart then reassemble them, or just paint them all as a unit?

[AllanB]

What's the thing on the left behind the bike? Some sore of sensory emersion tank to allow you to come up with pure thought for the GW build?

[durp]

did you paint the wheels apart then reassemble them, or just paint them all as a unit?
Yeah painted them all as one. I was originally going to powder coat them, then i found the 19" wheel wasnt going to fit in my oven. Damn. So just painted instead.


What's the thing on the left behind the bike? Some sore of sensory emersion tank to allow you to come up with pure thought for the GW build?
Thats a bike and sidecar project thats all one unit. Has an oldsmobile v6 for a motor, sits in the back of the sidecar, and powers the sidecar wheel and rear bike wheel. Thats my dads project. Heres a link to it:
http://www.r3owners.net/bearclaw-corner/14446-my-current-project.html

Ok so today, got some good amount done. Went from this:
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To this:
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[durp]

Progress: Really coming together now. Not too long now.

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[onearmedbandit]

Cheers for the updates!!

[Tarded]

Great to see the bike from start to near done.

Even better NOT to see a huge back tyre!!!!!! They suck.

Cool ride.

[durp]

Cheers.

Got a video of the first start since project began. Got some things to sort out yet today. The float sliders from the new kits are sticking and not shutting off fuel, so experiencing some massive flooding. I've since made some adjustments to them but havent hooked it back up yet.

But heres a video of it running, relatively speaking...


http://youtu.be/1X1wqf1LZnk

[onearmedbandit]

That was great to see your creation come to life! Thanks for sharing.

[jolly_26]

Sounds nothing like what I was expecting... in a good way though.

[durp]

Thanks. It was runnin pretty bad there actually. Just now fixed some issues. #4 cylinder wasn't firing, and idling pretty bad. All fixed now. Done for the night, but ill be workin on it all day tomorrow, starting first thing. So I'll have more to post later.

[durp]

Finally got to ride it today, very nice feel to it. Comfortable but sporty. I'll have earned my iron butt after this weekend. Taking it on a long road trip on the long weekend. Hopefully it makes it there and back again haha.

Still gonna have some bugs to work out. But inch by inch its getting there.

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[iYRe]

holy cow..

dude, you are amazing..

[MIXONE]

Good one man.Enjoy your ride,teething troubles and all.

[HenryDorsetCase]

thats impressive. Good job.

[blackdog]

Sick dude. Keep bringing us updates, can't wait to see it finished.

[Kornholio]

That was great to see your creation come to life! Thanks for sharing.

Plus 1.... Sounds pretty mean too... Nice work :)

[blackdog]

I just spied the trick tail light after reading the thread again. Style.

What's the plan for colours?

[durp]

I just spied the trick tail light after reading the thread again. Style.

What's the plan for colours?

Thanks. Thats the biggest question of all really. No idea what the end colour will be. Haha, in fact it probably never will have a final colour. Im sure ill end up changing it several times over. But what I'm going to try starting with is a white. See how I like it. I wish i could go all chrome or bare metal, but the tank is has been so terribly damaged it wouldn't work.

Its really not runnin right at all. and Im still a pretty long ways away from being done. But now, its the time to do all the little details and tweaks. Hell theres still lots to even make for that matter.

Rode it some more today. the quality of the ride is fantastic though. The new rear suspension feels great, handles really well.

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[HenryDorsetCase]

I have a question around the thing being road legal where you are: Is it?

Reason for asking is that if I was to hack up the frame of a goldwing, make some new rear suspensions for it, and do the work you have done I am buying a world of pain and red tape associated with Low Volume/Modified Vehicle Certification which would be costly and expensive and a major pain in the arse. Even the lightly customised thing I am contemplating would theroretically need it.

Or did you just not worry about that. or is it a non-issue where you live?

It sounds a bit like the Motus V4 in the vids. Thats a good thing.

[durp]

Here im 90% certain its legal. My dads been doin this kind of stuff for decades and there hasn't been any problems with the legality of it. Hasn't had to change titles or anything like that.

That being said, i dont really care haha. Id still rock it anyways. The insurance is all the same, and coincidentally my dad is also my insurance agent. Hes never been a rule bender so Ive never worried about it.

But, on that note, some time after this old girls finished and I've picked up another bike for restoration (and assuming I can finally get my residence and visa for new zealand), I'll be bringing the bikes with me down there. So I'm sure I'll have to jump through the loops when it comes to that. But who knows, maybe I can disguise it enough to pass it.

[blackdog]

Here im 90% certain its legal. My dads been doin this kind of stuff for decades and there hasn't been any problems with the legality of it. Hasn't had to change titles or anything like that.

That being said, i dont really care haha. Id still rock it anyways. The insurance is all the same, and coincidentally my dad is also my insurance agent. Hes never been a rule bender so Ive never worried about it.

But, on that note, some time after this old girls finished and I've picked up another bike for restoration (and assuming I can finally get my residence and visa for new zealand), I'll be bringing the bikes with me down there. So I'm sure I'll have to jump through the loops when it comes to that. But who knows, maybe I can disguise it enough to pass it.

Wicked. Please don't change.

[Drew]

Its really not runnin right at all.Welcome to the world of ancient CV carbs, running anything but a standard air box.

Arsehole the butterflies, make some cool as hell looking linkages to actuate the carb slides directly. I've wanted to do it for ages on somthing, but have only just put a motor with CV carbs in something...A fuckin TRACTOR! (Which is what you call a ride on mower with the blades taken off round these parts).

[durp]

Welcome to the world of ancient CV carbs, running anything but a standard air box.

Arsehole the butterflies, make some cool as hell looking linkages to actuate the carb slides directly. I've wanted to do it for ages on somthing, but have only just put a motor with CV carbs in something...A fuckin TRACTOR! (Which is what you call a ride on mower with the blades taken off round these parts).

Yeah no joke mate. The carbs on em are from an 1100. The originals were givin me even worse problems. But I gotta s&s carb that I'm gonna give a try. Gonna make an intake manifold and see how well that'll do. I gotta good feeling about. At least it'll be fun to try.

[Drew]

Yeah no joke mate. The carbs on em are from an 1100. The originals were givin me even worse problems. But I gotta s&s carb that I'm gonna give a try. Gonna make an intake manifold and see how well that'll do. I gotta good feeling about. At least it'll be fun to try.
Wait, you could make a manifold and mount something fucking sick. Like a little Holly!

[scumdog]

Wait, you could make a manifold and mount something fucking sick. Like a little Holly!

Hoi, leave little Holly and her 12 year old mates alone...and don't try to steer durp into you sordid way of life:bleh:

He would get in less trouble messing with a 390cfm Holley...

[Drew]

Hoi, leave little Holly and her 12 year old mates alone...and don't try to steer durp into you sordid way of life:bleh:

He would get in less trouble messing with a 390cfm Holley...

My bad, haven't had a lot to do with V8s, or Holley carbs really.

Is that as small as they go? The 'Deathwing' is only 1500cc after all.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Weber 46 or Dellorto or something. ON A TUNNEL RAM. Aw yeah.

[Drew]

Weber 46 or Dellorto or something. ON A TUNNEL RAM. Aw yeah.Cortina Webber would do the trick, if someone could actually find one.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Cortina Webber would do the trick, if someone could actually find one.

the tunnel ram might be an issue with the frame backbone and shock and whatnot. SUPERCHARGER!!!!!

http://thekneeslider.com/randakks-supercharger-for-honda-gl1000-gl1100/

[ducatilover]

Hoi, leave little Holly and her 12 year old mates alone...and don't try to steer durp into you sordid way of life:bleh:

He would get in less trouble messing with a 390cfm Holley...

You reckon a 390 would be okay on one? I had a 390 on my Rover and it was ideal.

Holly isn't twelve, she's a lovely female and has fab tits. :drool:

[Geeen]

Holly isn't twelve, she's a lovely female and has fab tits. :drool:

Holly......

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[Drew]

Holly......

I'm always on the lookout for teh next, ex Mrs Mair. She could be it if she played her cards right!

[swarfie]

I'm always on the lookout for teh next, ex Mrs Mair. She could be it if she played her cards right!

HA...like that pretty lil thang would even look your way bro..NOT:lol:

[Drew]

HA...like that pretty lil thang would even look your way bro..NOT:lol:

She'd look if I flipped a sidecar infront of her!

[durp]

Ill run the carb either from the back in towards the front, or out the side. But I'll have enough room for it. Just waitin on a part to move forward.

But hell when this thing takes off its all i can do to hold on as it is. What a runner. its a lot lighter now after all that choppin.

And tell me more about this holly you speak of :devil2:

[durp]

Did somewhere between 1200 and 1400 km this last weekend. She did lovely enough. Aside from the fun backfiring haha. Woke up the campground every morning and laughed about it.


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[Tarded]

SU carb or carbs?

They seem to fit on all and sundry and are pretty good. It looks like you have room?

The super charger idea is good - Im pretty easy with other peoples cash!

IDAs would be sweet but not cheap.

Hillbourne injection! A really practical idea for you.
1930s updraft auto carbs? :lol:

[Tarded]

I'm always on the lookout for teh next, ex Mrs Mair. She could be it if she played her cards right!

You mean if she played a really terrible hand of cards, threw up and passed out she would still have a chance or 10?

with most of us!

[durp]

Did a touch a black for funsies today. just wanted to stop lookin at primer. I still dont know what ill do for a final color.

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[iYRe]

black.. thats like.. the only colour a bike should ever come in.

[Geeen]

black.. thats like.. the only colour a bike should ever come in.

Listen to this man, he knows what he's on about.

[bogan]

yeh can't go wrong with a color like that...

[Oblivion]

You can have any color as long as its black.

-Henry Ford

[AllanB]

Black is a total absence of colour. It is so deep man.

[Madness]

Add some old-school pinstripes to that black. Done.

[Mental Trousers]

This site is full of fucken bogan's :facepalm:

Something like that bike should draw peoples attention by the way it looks and sounds, not be part of the crowd of anonymous black bikes.

White front/rear gaurds with a white tank, black out everything you can except the carbs, intake manifold, valve covers and exhaust.

[Kornholio]

Add some old-school pinstripes to that black. Done.

Flames man, Flames!


This site is full of fucken bogan's :facepalm:

Something like that bike should draw peoples attention by the way it looks and sounds, not be part of the crowd of anonymous black bikes.

White front/rear gaurds with a white tank, black out everything you can except the carbs, intake manifold, valve covers and exhaust.

Dont be silly MT :p

[durp]

If I had it my way I'd just do bare metal or chrome. But the tank is so badly damaged underneath that it wouldn't work, with all the body work done.

My first try I'll go for is black fender and white tank. But I'll be doin some experimenting with different finishes. And whether or not there will be any artwork is yet to be foreseen.

[durp]

This site is full of fucken bogan's :facepalm:

Something like that bike should draw peoples attention by the way it looks and sounds, not be part of the crowd of anonymous black bikes.

White front/rear gaurds with a white tank, black out everything you can except the carbs, intake manifold, valve covers and exhaust.

spot on really. But the fender will remain black. And theres a method to my madness on this one... when it comes to the overall shape of the bike, the rear end is essential. It needs to have as minimal of a layout as possible; your eyes should focus on the acute angle of the suspension and swingarm/drive end, with the single round shape of the wheel. With the fender being black, it helps blend it together instead of distracting from the shape.

To me, the fender only needs to suit a purpose, not draw the attention. At least with this bike anyways.

[Mental Trousers]

spot on really. But the fender will remain black. And theres a method to my madness on this one... when it comes to the overall shape of the bike, the rear end is essential. It needs to have as minimal of a layout as possible; your eyes should focus on the acute angle of the suspension and swingarm/drive end, with the single round shape of the wheel. With the fender being black, it helps blend it together instead of distracting from the shape.

To me, the fender only needs to suit a purpose, not draw the attention. At least with this bike anyways.

Sounds good.

[iYRe]

This site is full of fucken bogan's :facepalm:

Something like that bike should draw peoples attention by the way it looks and sounds, not be part of the crowd of anonymous black bikes.

White front/rear gaurds with a white tank, black out everything you can except the carbs, intake manifold, valve covers and exhaust.


black is the new white... just black out everything.. (although, I will admit to chrome trim on the faux cooling fins on the 'rex, and chrome skull valve caps..)

[Drew]

Some inspiration perhaps. I think your bikes name applies better to this bike though.

[scumdog]

Since it's damaged try covering the tank in thin textured vinyl??

[durp]

I have considered it. But i dunno, just wouldn't seem right. It would seem write if it were fake chrome.

In other news, I've just submitted my expression of interest for New Zealand residence yesterday. I'll be up for selection next wednesday. So I'm seriously hoping to get approved and get my arse back to NZ as soon as possible.

[durp]

Starting on the single carb conversion, laying out the tubing for the manifold now.

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[durp]

Progress on the manifold. Got all the ports milled and matched. Tomorrow I'll finish up with cutting down the lengths on all 4 intake tubes and the center. Still have to mill the port for the carb output yet. But on the list for next time as well.

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[bogan]

Progress on the manifold. Got all the ports milled and matched. Tomorrow I'll finish up with cutting down the lengths on all 4 intake tubes and the center. Still have to mill the port for the carb output yet. But on the list for next time as well.

Reckon the intake will be all balanced enough with a log manifold like that?


This site is full of fucken bogan's :facepalm:

You say that like it is a bad thing...

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I have no who those guys are, but the term 'gods among men' springs to mind :bleh:

[Eddieb]

Will the center provide enough flow to feed the 4 carbs? If the volume of the feed off the carb is the same as each cylinder requires then each cylinder is only going to get 1/4 of what it needs?

[Drew]

Will the center provide enough flow to feed the 4 carbs? If the volume of the feed off the carb is the same as each cylinder requires then each cylinder is only going to get 1/4 of what it needs?Keh?

They don't all suck at once. On a low revving motor like the GL, one carb is plenty provided it has a good enough fuel supply to the bowl.

[Eddieb]

Keh?

They don't all suck at once. On a low revving motor like the GL, one carb is plenty provided it has a good enough fuel supply to the bowl.

I wasn't thinking of fuel, just air

[Drew]

I wasn't thinking of fuel, just airStill not an issue untill the revs get high. Consider the carb on an old V8. Sure, it was a limiting factor of the performance. But only once you opened the pipes up and let the thing breath anyway.

The reason I mentioned fuel, is that if the carb wasn't built for a multi cylinder motor, it might not have enough gas in the bowl for two sucks every 360 degrees. Otherwise it's all gravy.

[scumdog]

Still not an issue untill the revs get high. Consider the carb on an old V8. Sure, it was a limiting factor of the performance. But only once you opened the pipes up and let the thing breath anyway.

The reason I mentioned fuel, is that if the carb wasn't built for a multi cylinder motor, it might not have enough gas in the bowl for two sucks every 360 degrees. Otherwise it's all gravy.

Total c.f.m. is the limiting factor.

[Drew]

Total c.f.m. is the limiting factor.Cubic feet per mintue?

[blackdog]

Cum Face Mate.

[Mental Trousers]

Cock Fondling Monkey

[durp]

Cuckold Filling Man-jam

On that note... The chances of the S&S working are 50/50. The length of the tubes definitely won't be a problem on this. But if this carb doesn't end up doing the trick I'll need to go with a kitted vw carb. This S&S is really meant for big fatty harleys. But its adjustable, so we'll see what we get.

This will likely be a game of trial and error. But itll get there.

[scumdog]

Cubic feet per mintue?

Almost.
Change mintue to minute.

[Drew]

Almost.
Change mintue to minute.Always wondered if that's what it meant.

[Drew]

Almost.
Change mintue to minute.Always wondered if that's what it meant.

So it's fairly straight forward to work out if a carb is big enough, standby...

1cf=30.48cl

1.5lX6000(Half the revs because each slug fires .5 times per revolution)
9000litres

9000l/30.48l
295.28


295CFM carb, will flow enough air without restriction, for a 1500cc engine that revs to 12,000 RPM. I couldn't find what the red line on a GL is, but I doubt it would be higher than that.

That's not a very big carb at all.

I'm glad I've wasted all this time working it out.:2thumbsup

[Eddieb]

295CFM carb, will flow enough air without restriction, for a 1500cc engine that revs to 12,000 RPM. I couldn't find what the red line on a GL is, but I doubt it would be higher than that.


That motor is only 1000 or possibly 1100cc and redline is 8k according to this private for sale advert http://www.americanlisted.com/colorado_6/motorcycles_10/classic_honda_gl1000_goldwing_3000_westminster_co_ 16345581.html, plus I found a few videos on youtube showing the rev counter that supported that.

Here's another good intake mod

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4_CWvrL3OU

[Drew]

8k according to this private for sale advert http://www.americanlisted.com/colorado_6/motorcycles_10/classic_honda_gl1000_goldwing_3000_westminster_co_ 16345581.html, plus I found a few videos on youtube showing the rev counter that supported that.Sweet, even smaller then.

[Drew]

Here's another good intake mod

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4_CWvrL3OU
I'm a turbo fan myself. Prolly because they can be mounted where ever the hell ya want them.

[Eddieb]

I'm a turbo fan myself. Prolly because they can be mounted where ever the hell ya want them.

Me too as you don't have the mechanical loss usually associated with driving a Supercharger, however the whole Goldwing motor and frame layout really suits this sort of installation.

Back to my orignal query. I was wondering about the volume of the red section in the picture attached being able to satisfy the demands of the intakes shown green, also whether having no airbox or similiar chamber would have any impact on the intake system, does it matter? will it affect intake behavior in any way?

[durp]

The center section is only slightly larger then the 4 intake tubes. But the inside diameter of the tubes are the same as the original carbs. But the fuel delivery isn't going to be the issue here. It will only suck gas in one at a time per cylinder anyway.

Few more updates:

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[Drew]

It will only suck gas in one at a time per cylinder anyway.
This was my original point.

However, the throttle body needs to be able to flow enough air for maximum revs. A 100CFM throttle opening will happily feed one of the pistons on your motor at 8,000RPM. But since the air for more than one cylinder needs to be in the pipe once the revs get up there, the max CFM needs to match all four slugs needs.

PS, if you can mount the carb at the rear of the manifold, there will be less flow disruption, and much better fueling.

[durp]

Thats actually where I wanted to put it, but the carb is too fat.

[Drew]

Thats actually where I wanted to put it, but the carb is too fat.
I was kinda expecting there to be a problem with it, just from an engineering view point it would have been less work.

[durp]

Well, its working! So thats a good sign. Midrange sounds better then it ever has. Roughin out the idle though, trying to find that sweet spot it likes.

Some updates pics. After idles right, I'll smooth it out some more and powder coat em.

Before i sealed the end caps and smoothed out the welds.
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[durp]

You can ignore the last one. Re did the manifold a bit, got a new Solex VW carb to run it now instead. Got it all working. Ordered new jets and waiting on them to arrive to fine tune it now.

Some pics:

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[Arronduke]

Your bike is soo cool.
Great skills... there are a few skills I would like to borrow.

Assume

[ellipsis]

....hows the GL project coming along...it's been a bit of a kick in the arse for me, to get my GL thing happening...just scored the supercharger which is a start...

[durp]

Been a while since i posted. Thought id update this. I've been too busy actually riding the damn thing. I've put close to 30,000 km on it this year. Just got back from another long weekend road trip.

Few things; finally managed to make a dash for the tank. for now just has a temp gauge (from 78 wing, they had separate gauges for fuel, temp, amp). Will move start button, kill switch, high/low beam to dash and off of handle bars.

Got a hold of an antique tractor seat. Chopped and reshaped it to fit better.

New bars

Got rid of gauge clusters. Just use iphone app for speedo. looks really good too.

Heres some pics:
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[iYRe]

Durp, You are my new hero.
Well, apart from Steve Irwin, Bear Grylls, Bruce Anstey and Andrew Stroud..

[durp]

and from the ride to work this morning, the different headlight.


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[AllanB]

Back to stock carbs?

[durp]

yeah just performs a lot better.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I really like this bike. Kudos on the seat though, you must be hard as!

[Dogboy900]

I really like this bike. Kudos on the seat though, you must be hard as!

Or a hard arse! :laugh:

[durp]

haha, before the tractor seat i used the pan seat i made, for the entire trip up to through canada. There were a few days where it got pretty tough. But this tractor seat is actually way comfortable. Last road trip i did on it didn't give me any problems at all.

[HenryDorsetCase]

That kinda sorta makes sense: given that people sat on them all day ploughing when they were mounted on tractors.....

[durp]

its all about weight distribution