Atgatt fail

[Flip]

Oamaru, SH1, friday 14-12-12, no helmut.

Sorry about the quality of the pic. all I could do was get the phone out and take it.

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[Berries]

I can see chicken wings are on special at Countdown.

[Owl]

Take your word for it! My binoculars just aren't that strong.:blink:

[BigAl]

More like photograph fail, can't see anything other than Santa.:bleh:

[madandy]

I see a well attired rider with a pillion in a red hoodie and no helmet! :facepalm:

[Bassmatt]

Oamaru - rocking it on a Friday! :niceone:

[FJRider]

A bit closer ...

And the Cop shop was just back up the street a bit too ... (they probably passed it)

[Haggis2]

A couple of times in the last month or so I've seen an injun dude on a scooter who thinks his turban is the same as a helmet. It's clowns like this (amongst other types of idiot) who cause our ACC levies to be so high

[Drew]

A couple of times in the last month or so I've seen an injun dude on a scooter who thinks his turban is the same as a helmet. It's clowns like this (amongst other types of idiot) who cause our ACC levies to be so highDon't be a fuckin retard. How many people do you think get injured on road bikes from not wearing a helmet?

If it made one tenth of a percent of injuries, I'll eat my helmet.

[davereid]

Don't be a fuckin retard. How many people do you think get injured on road bikes from not wearing a helmet?

If it made one tenth of a percent of injuries, I'll eat my helmet.

Helmets double your chances of surviving a crash without a serious brain injury.

That sound pretty good until you consider that motorcycling is 18-25 times more dangerous than using a car.

The helmet helps, but its not magic.

And for what its worth, helmets are not compulsory for Sikh or others with an appropriate religious belief, or medical reason. Sikh don't even need to apply for an exemption, they hold it as of right.

[Usarka]

Bollocks to all that safety nazi crap.

These guys were obeying the correct acronym - SOTGMOTT.

[Berries]

These guys were obeying the correct acronym - SOTGMOTT.
You lost me after Suck On The Goat.

[FJRider]

Don't be a fuckin retard. How many people do you think get injured on road bikes from not wearing a helmet?

If it made one tenth of a percent of injuries, I'll eat my helmet.

A large percentage of car drivers end up with serious head injuries in a serious accident. The risk is greater on a motorcycle. Which is why you wear yours ...

[FJRider]

You lost me after Suck On The Goat.

It is Oamaru after all ... :facepalm:

[scumdog]

A couple of times in the last month or so I've seen an injun dude on a scooter who thinks his turban is the same as a helmet. It's clowns like this (amongst other types of idiot) who cause our ACC levies to be so high

So...any stats to prove 'clowns' on motorbikes who wear turbans instead of helmets injure their head more frequently/severely than people who wear helmets???

And stats to prove they, as a result 'cause our ACC levies to be so high?

[hayd3n]

A couple of times in the last month or so I've seen an injun dude on a scooter who thinks his turban is the same as a helmet. It's clowns like this (amongst other types of idiot) who cause our ACC levies to be so high
it is legal to wear a turban it you dont go over 50kms

[FJRider]

So...any stats to prove 'clowns' on motorbikes who wear turbans instead of helmets injure their head more frequently/severely than people who wear helmets???

And stats to prove they, as a result 'cause our ACC levies to be so high?

The stat's in India would prove it's possible ... <_<

But I have never heard of one single Sikh killed on a motorcycle (in NZ) ... because he wasn't wearing a helmet.

[FJRider]

it islegal to wear a turban it you dont go over 50kms

It IS legal to wear a turban ... no matter what religion you belong to (or how fast you walk). But to wear a turban on a motorcycle ... you must be able to prove you are of that belief. and ... not exceed 50 km/hr.

[SMOKEU]

So if a terrorist doesn't wear a lid, that means they have double the chance of getting their 72 virgins.

[Road kill]

A couple of times in the last month or so I've seen an injun dude on a scooter who thinks his turban is the same as a helmet. It's clowns like this (amongst other types of idiot) who cause our ACC levies to be so high

So say's the local rep' for the number 1 group of ACC biker stat's.:rolleyes:

[Magnum Noel]

So if a terrorist doesn't wear a lid, that means they have double the chance of getting their 72 virgins.

Are you sure it's still 72? I thought that No. had gone up. Anyway who the hell would want 72 or more virgins all talking and arguing at the same time!!!!

[Whynot]

Do you guys also take photos of people not wearing seatbelts and post them on the internet?

[SMOKEU]

Are you sure it's still 72? I thought that No. had gone up. Anyway who the hell would want 72 or more virgins all talking and arguing at the same time!!!!

If you join up to snackbarism, you get a free 10 virgin starter package.

[James Deuce]

A couple of times in the last month or so I've seen an injun dude on a scooter who thinks his turban is the same as a helmet. It's clowns like this (amongst other types of idiot) who cause our ACC levies to be so high

If he's a Sikh, he's not allowed to wear anything on his head other than a turban. I believe exceptions are available on religious grounds.

ACC levies are so high because motorcyclists don't have the capacity to unite behind a lobby group. ACC motorcycle levies have nothing to do with actual injuries. They are an arbitrary tax applied to a group who looks like they are more vulnerable than most (despite the most expensive customers for ACC being a bloke with a chainsaw, a woman with a wheelbarrow and a woman riding a horse) and so can be targeted with made up stats and just because. The constant ad hominen whine about other motorcyclists "making our levies so high" is just another sign that the Government has not only won, we believe wholeheartedly the propaganda they used to justify raising it. Well I don't but I'm picking that you've perhaps bought into it?

It was a long term cash grab, based on making ACC a commercial medical insurance scheme.

How's this for a cunning first step for milking motorcyclists? They allowed the top end of the capacity range for LAMS bikes to exceed the second tier of ACC levy charges.

Stop blaming other motorcyclists for our failures at politics and have a think about how we can present a united front that is socially acceptable and therefore garners public support. "Motorcycling NZ Inc." needs to have at least a weekly presence in the press. Every time a motorcyclist is injured or dies there needs to be an expression of sympathy and call to investigate the causes of the incident and an offer of support to families, first responders and investigating agencies. Every time more than three motorcyclists get together and give money to charity there needs to be a motorcycle friendly article, not a hugely inaccurate piece of fluff written by a 12 year-old female reporter with one eye on a telly job telling us how lovely bikies are when they're not dealing P. Being visible once every 10 years or so is not doing "us" any good. Neither is using a public forum to further support the Government's "divide & conquer" strategy which so far is jolly well winning without much of a push back.

[Tink]

Do you guys also take photos of people not wearing seatbelts and post them on the internet?

Good Point!


If he's a Sikh, he's not allowed to wear anything on his head other than a turban. I believe exceptions are available on religious grounds.

ACC levies are so high because motorcyclists don't have the capacity to unite behind a lobby group. ACC motorcycle levies have nothing to do with actual injuries. They are an arbitrary tax applied to a group who looks like they are more vulnerable than most (despite the most expensive customers for ACC being a bloke with a chainsaw, a woman with a wheelbarrow and a woman riding a horse) and so can be targeted with made up stats and just because. The constant ad hominen whine about other motorcyclists "making our levies so high" is just another sign that the Government has not only won, we believe wholeheartedly the propaganda they used to justify raising it. Well I don't but I picking that you've perhaps bought into it?

It was a long term cash grab, based on making ACC a commercial medical insurance scheme.

How's this for a cunning first step for milking motorcyclists? They allowed the top end of the capacity range for LAMS bikes to exceed the second tier of ACC levy charges.

Stop blaming other motorcyclists for our failures at politics and have a think about how we can present a united front that is socially acceptable and therefore garners public support. "Motorcycling NZ Inc." needs to have at least a weekly presence in the press. Every time a motorcyclist is injured or dies there needs to be an expression of sympathy and call to investigate the causes of the incident and an offer of support to families, first responders and investigating agencies. Every time more than three motorcyclists get together and give money to charity there needs to be a motorcycle friendly article, not a hugely inaccurate piece of fluff written by a 12 year-old female reporter with one eye on a telly job telling us how lovely bikies are when they're not dealing P. Being visible once every 10 years or so is not doing "us" any good. Neither is using a public forum to further support the Government's "divide & conquer" strategy which so far is jolly well winning without much of a push back.

100% agree here.... why is not good news about bikers major news! We all need to get off our power trips on wheels, and get with the real facts, people die because of sheer stupidity on the roads, male/female ... young/old it does not matter, we are all individuals that have responsibilities for the safety of ourselves and others! Money does not save lives.... common sense does!

[imdying]

No stress here, it looks like a problem that'll take care of itself via Gene'O'Clean (tm)

[schrodingers cat]

So...any stats to prove 'clowns' on motorbikes who wear turbans instead of helmets injure their head more frequently/severely than people who wear helmets???

And stats to prove they, as a result 'cause our ACC levies to be so high?

You are absolutely correct.
Everybody knows there is no direct correlation between statistics and levies

[Owl]

Stop

Must spread rep.

[scumdog]

Neither is using a public forum to further support the Government's "divide & conquer" strategy which so far is jolly well winning without much of a push back.

Nicely put.

But worth the effort given the attitude of many on this site?

I doubt it...

[caspernz]

Don't be a fuckin retard. How many people do you think get injured on road bikes from not wearing a helmet?

If it made one tenth of a percent of injuries, I'll eat my helmet.

Would you like that rare, medium or well done sir? Oh, and would you like fries with that :bleh::eek::laugh::facepalm::shit:

[FJRider]

How's this for a cunning first step for milking motorcyclists? They allowed the top end of the capacity range for LAMS bikes to exceed the second tier of ACC levy charges.

What is the issue there .. those that want to pay the extra levy price (for a bigger bike) ... are free to do so. If they want to take the risk ... and can afford the full levy.

LAM's are for a class of (licensed) riders. The levies are for a class (engine size) of bike..

I doubt if many L plates will be attached to 650 cc (and over) bikes anyway ... but can happen now.

[James Deuce]

So which part of the Government do you work for?

[Ocean1]

Government's "divide & conquer" strategy which so far is jolly well winning without much of a push back.

Well I'm doing my bit.

No way in hell will they ever take more off me than they did before the change in registration charges.

[FJRider]

So which part of the Government do you work for?

Considering the LAM's legislation is a huge improvement on the previous restrictive legislation .... I can't see how (or why) people should whinge about it :scratch: It doesn't actually affect anybody that already owns a motorcycle over 650 cc ... :laugh:

But I guess ... that's just what some people like do :shifty:

I think THAT'S the Government's fault ... :msn-wink:

[madandy]

If he's a Sikh, he's not allowed to wear anything on his head other than a turban. I believe exceptions are available on religious grounds.

ACC levies are so high because motorcyclists don't have the capacity to unite behind a lobby group. ACC motorcycle levies have nothing to do with actual injuries. They are an arbitrary tax applied to a group who looks like they are more vulnerable than most (despite the most expensive customers for ACC being a bloke with a chainsaw, a woman with a wheelbarrow and a woman riding a horse) and so can be targeted with made up stats and just because. The constant ad hominen whine about other motorcyclists "making our levies so high" is just another sign that the Government has not only won, we believe wholeheartedly the propaganda they used to justify raising it. Well I don't but I picking that you've perhaps bought into it?

It was a long term cash grab, based on making ACC a commercial medical insurance scheme.

How's this for a cunning first step for milking motorcyclists? They allowed the top end of the capacity range for LAMS bikes to exceed the second tier of ACC levy charges.

Stop blaming other motorcyclists for our failures at politics and have a think about how we can present a united front that is socially acceptable and therefore garners public support. "Motorcycling NZ Inc." needs to have at least a weekly presence in the press. Every time a motorcyclist is injured or dies there needs to be an expression of sympathy and call to investigate the causes of the incident and an offer of support to families, first responders and investigating agencies. Every time more than three motorcyclists get together and give money to charity there needs to be a motorcycle friendly article, not a hugely inaccurate piece of fluff written by a 12 year-old female reporter with one eye on a telly job telling us how lovely bikies are when they're not dealing P. Being visible once every 10 years or so is not doing "us" any good. Neither is using a public forum to further support the Government's "divide & conquer" strategy which so far is jolly well winning without much of a push back.


Its a good argument Jim but the women on horseback and wheelbarrows and blokes driving chainsaws aren't doing so on ROADS. Therefore they cannot be charged an ACC levy on their registrations...
I fully support your argument however.

[Conquiztador]

Someone w/o a helmet on a bike and it's news??? You need to get out more.

[Oakie]

Don't be a fuckin retard. How many people do you think get injured on road bikes from not wearing a helmet?

If it made one tenth of a percent of injuries, I'll eat my helmet.

That would be because there are probably only a tenth of a percent of bikers who don't habitually wear a lid.
Oh,a biker killed last year ago a few kms from where I live from head injuries following a crash, sans-lid. That'll be the tenth of a percenter for this city I guess.

[scumdog]

Someone w/o a helmet on a bike and it's news??? You need to get out more.

He did - that's how he got the pic.

[Oakie]

I can see chicken wings are on special at Countdown.

I remember watching the building that previously occupied that site burn down in the early 70's. It might have been Farmers ... I think. Spectacular blaze anyway.

[Berries]

Fucking farmers.

[Jezxa]

Its a good argument Jim but the women on horseback and wheelbarrows and blokes driving chainsaws aren't doing so on ROADS. Therefore they cannot be charged an ACC levy on their registrations...
I fully support your argument however.
Registrations shouldn't have ACC levies at all. We all already pay something like 2.5% of our income towards ACC so why should some groups have to pay again when others like horse riders and rugby players don't.

[awayatc]

So...any stats to prove 'clowns' on motorbikes who wear turbans instead of helmets injure their head more frequently/severely than people who wear helmets???




Stats from turban capital of the world (London):

improperly secured turbans become undone while riding, and getting caught in the spokes.
This tightens the turban suddenly and causes severe headinjuries, fatal above 50 kmh.
Turban checks on pullstart injuns to be included in WOF inspections
Red button push start Injuns however are exempt.


I don't wear a helmet either when I am sikh,
pretty dangerous to fill up helmet and block visor when you throw up...

[madandy]

Registrations shouldn't have ACC levies at all. We all already pay something like 2.5% of our income towards ACC so why should some groups have to pay again when others like horse riders and rugby players don't.

Rugby players do pay ACC. Its in their membership subscription fee at every club in the country. And all the semi-pro to full time professional players from regional through Super 15 and of course, the All Blacks pay it as well, from their salaries...

Its like saying why should I pay 30% fucking tax when you may only pay 20% and some pricks pay none, like akzle because he's such a clever bastard, being separate from this society and all that BS...some carry others due to being easier to tax because their activities are more easily monitored.

Try accurately measuring horse useage so as to levy the rider an acc charge...

[Brian d marge]

very important stuff i should be typing here , containing statistics and flashy graphs , with absolute concrete evidence im right

but

I dont care


on the grand scheme of things, ive got bigger issues with my hand arguing with my dick ,,,

Stephen

[skippa1]

Sikhs don't have to wear helmets because their heads are pre bandaged in case of a spill. That way they don't feature in the stats, because there is no treatment required:weird:

[varminter]

Now, to get back to this thing about 72 virgins, I don't have a copy of the Koran with me so can someone enlighten me. Does it say anything about how old they are, general condition etc. I mean, picture some real barf bags, 200 kilo's plus, hairy armpits, pustules, ugly as a bucket of frogs...but virgins. And your friendly neighborhood suicide bomber gets them? C'mon, Allah does have a sense of humor.

[Oakie]

Now, to get back to this thing about 72 virgins, I don't have a copy of the Koran with me so can someone enlighten me. Does it say anything about how old they are, general condition etc. I mean, picture some real barf bags, 200 kilo's plus, hairy armpits, pustules, ugly as a bucket of frogs...but virgins. And your friendly neighborhood suicide bomber gets them? C'mon, Allah does have a sense of humor.

Actually ... the Koran does not mention 72 virgins or even 1 virgin awaiting you on death anywhere in it's script. It is generally held to be a western mistranslation of one part that refers to something along the lines of the dead going to paradise which is filled with flowing water and fruit etc and getting 72 grapes (or possibly raisins). What a disappointment huh.Offing yourself in the hope of getting 72 nubiles and ending up with a bunch of grapes instead.

[St_Gabriel]

But I have never heard of one single Sikh killed on a motorcycle (in NZ) ... because he wasn't wearing a helmet.

Well that really would be taking ATGATT a little too far, fancy killing someone for not wearing a helmet, thats just silly...

Though I could understand a Sikh dying in a road crash/accident from injuries that may have been prevented by wearing a helmet.

[Str8 Jacket]

Actually ... the Koran does not mention 72 virgins or even 1 virgin awaiting you on death anywhere in it's script. It is generally held to be a western mistranslation of one part that refers to something along the lines of the dead going to paradise which is filled with flowing water and fruit etc and getting 72 grapes (or possibly raisins). What a disappointment huh.Offing yourself in the hope of getting 72 nubiles and ending up with a bunch of grapes instead.

You can make wine from grapes.

[Banditbandit]

Oamaru, SH1, friday 14-12-12, no helmut.

Sorry about the quality of the pic. all I could do was get the phone out and take it.

Who nominated you policeman ???

[Oakie]

Who nominated you policeman ???

Aww leave off. He was just a Police Camera, not a actual popo.

[varminter]

Actually ... the Koran does not mention 72 virgins or even 1 virgin awaiting you on death anywhere in it's script. It is generally held to be a western mistranslation of one part that refers to something along the lines of the dead going to paradise which is filled with flowing water and fruit etc and getting 72 grapes (or possibly raisins). What a disappointment huh.Offing yourself in the hope of getting 72 nubiles and ending up with a bunch of grapes instead.

If that's all you get I'm not going to join, so there.

[Oakie]

Oamaru, SH1, friday 14-12-12, no helmut.

Sorry about the quality of the pic. all I could do was get the phone out and take it.

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Well bugger me if I didn't see the same thing today. A 20 something woman on a mid size scooter leaning into a Cashmere Road sweeper with her long brown hair blowing in the wind. Silly!

[FJRider]

Well bugger me if I didn't see the same thing today. A 20 something woman on a mid size scooter leaning into a Cashmere Road sweeper with her long brown hair blowing in the wind. Silly!

Are you gay ... ??? .. most guys are too busy staring at her tits to notice she has hair ... ;)

[Oakie]

Are you gay ... ??? .. most guys are too busy staring at her tits to notice she has hair ... ;)

To be honest, the sight of an unprotected head took away all thoughts of boobage. Damn.

[FJRider]

To be honest, the sight of an unprotected head took away all thoughts of boobage. Damn.

But I AM sure she would have appreciated your concern for her safety. (had she known)

[Oakie]

But I AM sure she would have appreciated your concern for her safety. (had she known)

Well I did tap my helmet in a concerned manner as I rode past her in the opposite direction but I fear she did not understand.

[Usarka]

Let me interpret his sarcasm:

She would have thought - fuck off and mind your own business you boring old cunt! :lol:

[Oakie]

Let me interpret his sarcasm:

She would have thought - fuck off and mind your own business you boring old cunt! :lol:

Nah. Actually the way she was squinting in the breeze (no sunnies) she probably didn't even see me.

[FJRider]

Well I did tap my helmet in a concerned manner as I rode past her in the opposite direction but I fear she did not understand.

You should have followed her, and told her of your concerns ... :yes:

Some women like that .... :whistle:

[Conquiztador]

Nah. Actually the way she was squinting in the breeze (no sunnies) she probably didn't even see me.

The obvious question needs to be asked: Did she wave back? (As I assume you did not forget this important part).

[Oakie]

The obvious question needs to be asked: Did she wave back? (As I assume you did not forget this important part).

Well I regret I was too busy tapping my helmet to wave ... and while she didn't wave at me, her hair waved a bit in the breeze ...

[Drew]

Well I regret I was too busy tapping my helmet to wave ... and while she didn't wave at me, her hair waved a bit in the breeze ...

Sooooo, you figured she simply didn't realise she wasn't wearing a helmet?

Or perhaps you were tapping yours to show off?

Or, you were being chivalrous and offering her your helmet?

I would have given you the finger, and loudly expressed that I can do what I like if I'm willing to suffer the consequence.

[Highlander]

Well bugger me if I didn't see the same thing today. A 20 something woman on a mid size scooter leaning into a Cashmere Road sweeper with her long brown hair blowing in the wind. Silly!


Well I did tap my helmet in a concerned manner as I rode past her in the opposite direction but I fear she did not understand.

So you saw a girl riding the other way in a semi dressed state and started tapping your helmet? :pinch:

[Jeff Sichoe]

Hypothetical -

If I took the keys outta my bike (ie no engine power), and coasted down the hill, would I be breaking the law if I didn't have a helmet on?

[Edbear]

Hypothetical -

If I took the keys outta my bike (ie no engine power), and coasted down the hill, would I be breaking the law if I didn't have a helmet on?

If on a public road, definitely. :yes:

[FJRider]

Hypothetical -

If I took the keys outta my bike (ie no engine power), and coasted down the hill, would I be breaking the law if I didn't have a helmet on?

Helmets must be worn whilst riding a motorcycle. Under power or not. On road or not ... in any public place (A public place is defined as anywhere public have access)

[Spearfish]

Helmets must be worn whilst riding a motorcycle. Under power or not. On road or not ... in any public place (A public place is defined as anywhere public have access)


Whats cheaper a motor bike no helmet fine or a bicycle no helmet fine?

[FJRider]

Whats cheaper a motor bike no helmet fine or a bicycle no helmet fine?

I think no bicycle helmet fine is $55 (up to $1ooo if you try to fight it in court)

No motorcycle helmet ... $150 and 25 demerits ...

[rastuscat]

I think no bicycle helmet fine is $55 (up to $1ooo if you try to fight it in court)

No motorcycle helmet ... $150 and 25 demerits ...

Stand by for a shocker.

No helmet on a bicycle.........$55.

No helmet on a motorcycle.........$50 and nil demerits.

Prec S101. Anyone at work care to clarify.......we don't get many of them, so I'm not sure.

Unless its changed in the last couple of months.

We get quite a few for wearing a helmet but not doing the strap up, which is the same offense. Failing to wear a securely fastened safety helmet.

[bosslady]

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/roadcode/motorcycle-road-code/about-your-responsibilities/stepping-over-the-line.html

25 demerits dunno what the fine is though...

[scumdog]

We get quite a few for wearing a helmet but not doing the strap up, which is the same offense. Failing to wear a securely fastened safety helmet.

What is it with these idiot with straps not done up? Do they think the vacuum inside hteir head will hold the helmet in place when they arse-up??

Or even worse, those ones riding a push-bike with the helmet hanging from the handle-bars and banging on the knee all the time?

Are they some kind of super-athlete that can scoop the helmet off the handle-bars, strap it on - and do so while flying through the air after T-boning the car that pulled out of the drive-way on front of them???:wacko:

Dumb fuckwits...

[bosslady]

What is it with these idiot with straps not done up? Do they think the vacuum inside hteir head will hold the helmet in place when they arse-up??

Or even worse, those ones riding a push-bike with the helmet hanging from the handle-bars and banging on the knee all the time?

Are they some kind of super-athlete that can scoop the helmet off the handle-bars, strap it on - and do so while flying through the air after T-boning the car that pulled out of the drive-way on front of them???:wacko:

Dumb fuckwits...

I'm sorry but I'm going to have to disagree... clearly you don't realise that it's NEVER going to happen to them! Duhhh ;) ;) ;) joshin ya...

[pritch]

I see cycle riders sans helmet quite often. I asked a member of the local constabulary about it and the reply was to the effect that the cops will stop a child without a helmet and give them a come to Jesus talk. Adults they ignore. If the adults want to kill themselves that's their problem.

Which gives me a problem. If that law (or any other) isn't going to be enforced, get it off the books. Fat chance!

[scumdog]

I see cycle riders sans helmet quite often. I asked a member of the local constabulary about it and the reply was to the effect that the cops will stop a child without a helmet and give them a come to Jesus talk. Adults they ignore. If the adults want to kill themselves that's their problem.

Which gives me a problem. If that law (or any other) isn't going to be enforced, get it off the books. Fat chance!


I badger the adult riders - I give them the argument that 'little guys emulate what big guys do' (OK, I don't use the word 'emulate' when talking to slack-jawed troglodytes!!) and tell them the younger ones who are less proficient (OK, I also don't use 'proficient'...) and more likely to crash also see 'big people' not wearing helmets and think it's cool to be like them...and not wear a helmet.

They mostly see what I'm saying.
If they don't - second time is ticket time...

[unstuck]

We have a neighbour who has a KTM 450, looks quite new. He races up and down the road all the time with no helmet on, doin wheeleies and shit and I,m just dreading the day when I have to hose his thick gooey skull matter off of the road in front of the house so the cats do not lick it up, then vomit it all over the house.:Punk:

[Conquiztador]

We have a neighbour who has a KTM 450, looks quite new. He races up and down the road all the time with no helmet on, doin wheeleies and shit and I,m just dreading the day when I have to hose his thick gooey skull matter off of the road in front of the house so the cats do not lick it up, then vomit it all over the house.:Punk:

When young we rode without helmets. When older I used to travel to Italy in the summers (I lived in Skandinavia) where you did not need a helmet. These days I ride dirt bikes on the beach without a helmet. And I have never used a helmet on a pushbike. I am clearly of a different breed, as when I sit on a bike w/o a helmet my head does not explode and I die, like the rest of you. Let those who ride decide.

[unstuck]

I have ridden without a helmet too,and still do, but nowhere near like what this fella does, If I have no helmet I just pootle along. But hey Its his life and he can do whatever he wants, I am more worried about him doing it outside my place, cos then I would feel obliged to help the fuckwit. Purely selfish motivation.:yes::Punk:

[Owl]

when I sit on a bike w/o a helmet my head does not explode and I die

You too...seriously?:crazy:

[bosslady]

a helmet to me... is like my seatbelt in my car. There's never a time I don't wear it minus moving it around in a car park etc. I just feel naked, kind of exposed... I won't even let anyone ride in my car without a seatbelt on, not for their sake but for mine... it's probably just indicative of the age I grew up in, safety conscious in that. It's all very natural to me, never a nuisance and not something I've ever had to think about twice. To each their own but I'd hate to have people think I'm OTT by choosing to wear my helmet always...

[Edbear]

a helmet to me... is like my seatbelt in my car. There's never a time I don't wear it minus moving it around in a car park etc. I just feel naked, kind of exposed... I won't even let anyone ride in my car without a seatbelt on, not for their sake but for mine... it's probably just indicative of the age I grew up in, safety conscious in that. It's all very natural to me, never a nuisance and not something I've ever had to think about twice. To each their own but I'd hate to have people think I'm OTT by choosing to wear my helmet always...

I agree with you 100%! Helmets, like seat belts, are not a fashion accessory they are to stop your head cracking open and spilling your brains out in the hopefully unlikely event you fall off.

[davereid]

When young we rode without helmets. When older I used to travel to Italy in the summers (I lived in Skandinavia) where you did not need a helmet. These days I ride dirt bikes on the beach without a helmet. And I have never used a helmet on a pushbike. I am clearly of a different breed, as when I sit on a bike w/o a helmet my head does not explode and I die, like the rest of you. Let those who ride decide.

Yep.

Lots of things might kill me. I don't worry about them all, sometimes I just do stuff cos its fun, even if its not perfectly safe. Like riding a motorcycle for example.

I wear a helmet most of the time, but not always.

I enjoy the sights and smells of the country, tootling down a quiet back road, or down the beach to a good surfcasting spot. Often with my helmet on, sometimes not.

And I enjoy watching the same kiwis who lecture me about my helmet usage, blasting around Rarotonga on scooters they don't know how-to-ride while half pissed and helmetless.

Lots of people believe helmets are magic and if they have the magic on their head they will be OK.

Me, I just ride carefully all the time. I think my helmet is a helpful non magic bit of compressed foam, that if I am lucky might help. Then again it might not.

[bosslady]

Speaking of smells, all I smell is people burning crap in their backyards, stinky car fumes and the occasional god awful burp inside my helmet after I've eaten Indian food. BUT today I rode past the sea and what a lovely smell that was! All the things you miss when you're in your cage. I don't believe in magic, just feel like a helmet or a seatbelt, whichever is applicable, is just another extension of myself, second nature really... what other people do I would probably frown but could really care less, so long as it doesn't effect me then meh.

[Laava]

the occasional god awful burp inside my helmet after I've eaten Indian food.

You don,t like that?
Ice cream burps in the helmet are the best!

[bosslady]

You don,t like that?
Ice cream burps in the helmet are the best!

I'd prefer an icecream burp, if I had to choose.

[Oakie]

Rum burps are fairly entertaining so I'm told. My work commute takes me past the sewerage setting ponds and from time to time it's like someone has done a bottom-burp in my helmet.

[bosslady]

anyway I'm a ladddddddy, we don't burp, most uncivilized!

[Banditbandit]

When young we rode without helmets.

Yeah me too ... I was riding aroudn Auckland on the day that helmets became compulsory - and I didn't have one .. I have a Beritish Motorcycle News magazine from 1949 with a letter saying arguing against the introducion of complusory helmet laws (yeah - that long ago) on the grounds that helmets were only of use when an accident was actually happening and therefore making them compulsory was a waste of time ...

But the bikes we had then were slower ... (so were their brakes - slower to work I mean - and had frames made from pasta) ...

Three months after helmets were made compulsoty a rider I knew loaned his helmet to his girlfriend so she could sit on the back and he'd drop her off at home .. half a mile later a car went through a red light - he went over the bonnet and hit his head in the gutter across the road ... died five days later ... his girlfriend was thrown a distance, rolled, stood up and walked away ... those of us who watched it happened never rode, or let anyone one the back, without a helmet.

I swore I'd never ride in a full face .. 'till I bought one for commuterr comfort asnd then dropped a bike and the full face saved my face from any damage ...

Now, when I, on the very rare odd occassion, ride without a helmet it brings back memories - and a few fears too .. I'd never seriously ride without one .. they have saved me on a number of ocassions ..

[Banditbandit]

Yep.

Lots of people believe helmets are magic and if they have the magic on their head they will be OK.

Me, I just ride carefully all the time. I think my helmet is a helpful non magic bit of compressed foam, that if I am lucky might help. Then again it might not.

Yes .. that's about it ..