Nats round 1

[lostinflyz]

so i got my entry today for the first round of nats down at ruapuna.....

whats up with the no trailers in the pits rule???

bar that looking forward to it.

[RobGassit]

Anyone know where the entry list can be viewed?

[gammaguy]

so i got my entry today for the first round of nats down at ruapuna.....

whats up with the no trailers in the pits rule???

bar that looking forward to it.

Clearly,its to make more room as the 400 riders and crowd of 30,000 mean space will be at a premium;)

[SWERVE]

If your race trailer forms part of your pit (ie it holds up the awning etc) then you can incorperate it. But if its just there for putting your empty cups on then it will have to go in the trailer parking. This is to make more space in the pit area for competitors and trade stands. And also to portray a more proffessional image to the spectators and potential sponsors alike. We have to remember that this is not a club meeting it is Ruapuna,s one chance at showcasing bikes at national level. Yes there may not be 30,000 spectators this year or next....... but if we can move towards improvement and professionalism it can be achieved. Weather permitting of course.

[Maido]

Same deal as last year. It's obviously to tidy the pits up and make it look more pro. However like u, we tend to use our trailer during the race weekend. Its a changing room and a tyre storage shed.

[lostinflyz]

If your race trailer forms part of your pit (ie it holds up the awning etc) then you can incorperate it. But if its just there for putting your empty cups on then it will have to go in the trailer parking. This is to make more space in the pit area for competitors and trade stands. And also to portray a more proffessional image to the spectators and potential sponsors alike. We have to remember that this is not a club meeting it is Ruapuna,s one chance at showcasing bikes at national level. Yes there may not be 30,000 spectators this year or next....... but if we can move towards improvement and professionalism it can be achieved. Weather permitting of course.

My trailer is my awning......... hahaha. Understand if your trying to move outflat deck trailers and the like but i didn't build a race trailer to just stick it in the corner. I would look more unprofessional (not that i ever started) with shit just laying all over the place in the middle of the pits!

[SWERVE]

Moving out flat decks and those that just sit there all weekend is exactly what is being sort. if your trailer is your pit then it will go in your pit space, Simple. The pit plan idea is always a bone of contention but it is designed to aid riders and spectators alike. Now can you all squeeze up a little cos i need room for my 40ft rig and hospitality unit..................... I WISH

[CHOPPA]

If your race trailer forms part of your pit (ie it holds up the awning etc) then you can incorperate it. But if its just there for putting your empty cups on then it will have to go in the trailer parking. This is to make more space in the pit area for competitors and trade stands. And also to portray a more proffessional image to the spectators and potential sponsors alike. We have to remember that this is not a club meeting it is Ruapuna,s one chance at showcasing bikes at national level. Yes there may not be 30,000 spectators this year or next....... but if we can move towards improvement and professionalism it can be achieved. Weather permitting of course.

Good idea, always going to be haters. You have to start somewhere

[gammaguy]

Good idea, always going to be haters. You have to start somewhere

yup and if starting at the bottom is the plan,well its not far from there already is it

[CHOPPA]

yup and if starting at the bottom is the plan,well its not far from there already is it

Well you would certainly know where the bottom is so atleast we are above that. Now maybe we could get some advice from someone that doesnt live in the gutter so we can improve

[jellywrestler]

Same deal as last year. It's obviously to tidy the pits up and make it look more pro. However like u, we tend to use our trailer during the race weekend. Its a changing room and a tyre storage shed.

can you suggest somewhere else I can sleep then?

[codgyoleracer]

Good idea, always going to be haters. You have to start somewhere

Agreed, good idea as the sideshow displays give a compelling reason for race day visitors not to go for a ride elsewhere on the day. Much rather view the tradestands and quality team display areas than weave my way through a higglydepiggildy squash of trailers and old tyres.

In fact the next natural step is to allow the riders & teams that make a real effort with their pit displays to have 1st choice of premium areas in and around the trade zone. And wouldnt matter whether they have a 250 or a superbike, if they have a classy display - then they should be at the "hub" of the event.

[gammaguy]

Well you would certainly know where the bottom is so atleast we are above that. Now maybe we could get some advice from someone that doesnt live in the gutter so we can improve

IM looking forward to see all you high flyers show us how its done

And your personal insults show that the leadership required is highly unlikely to come from you sunshine

[Billy]

IM looking forward to see all you high flyers show us how its done

And your personal insults show that the leadership required is highly unlikely to come from you sunshine

I think you'll find "sunshine",That Choppa is,A bit like the rest of us who are trying to move the sport forward,A little bit tired of the negative input by you and 1 or 2 others that frequent this site with unfounded innuendo's of stacked championships and rulebending to suit certain competitors,Some I know are just pisstakers and to be honest,I don't take anything away from this site and use it,We generally only use or act on the requests that come through the proper channels and quite frankly dennis,Wendy and the team do an excellent job of organising their round and I will be looking for more input from them for 2014,That said,Without a HUGE cash injection,Its never going too be anything like BSB or WSBK,Still if youve got some ideas to help us lift the profile,We'd be only to happy to listen and if it holds merit,Take it on board,In the meantime,If you and the others on here continue to snipe away,Im pretty sure your just going to continue receiving the feedback afforded you by Choppa....I wait with bated breath(Not held thankfully)

Oops forgot....It is Kiwibiker afterall,What was I thinking

[codgyoleracer]

What he said: Full credit to Wendy & the team for their promotional work efforts and making the day(s) racing an "event" rather than "just a bike race"

[slowpoke]

I've gotta agree with the above sentiments. Even for a nobody heading down for Clubman's the Ruapuna round rocks, not just 'cos it's a great track but because the crew do a great job of actually making it feel like something special, something more than just a club meeting.

[CHOPPA]

IM looking forward to see all you high flyers show us how its done

And your personal insults show that the leadership required is highly unlikely to come from you sunshine

Billy has a better way with words but frankly I dont think you deserve it. Your remarks are personal insults to all concerned and your obviously just trolling as the NZSBK championship is in the best state it has been in the last decade with the depth of talent in the field, the management and the show. In comparison to our population it is every bit as good as the ASBK championship and any other national championship from around the world.

You could bring any rider from around the world into our championship and they would have their work cut out for them

If someone could tell me how I could possibly do a better job than I am doing I would welcome their input (posting on KB hasnt done me any favours lately)

[scrivy]

If someone could tell me how I could possibly do a better job than I am doing I would welcome their input (posting on KB hasnt done me any favours lately)

Get a haircut......... :pinch:

[scrivy]

If someone could tell me how I could possibly do a better job than I am doing I would welcome their input (posting on KB hasnt done me any favours lately)

More umbrella girls......:yes:

[gammaguy]

Billy has a better way with words but frankly I dont think you deserve it. Your remarks are personal insults to all concerned and your obviously just trolling as the NZSBK championship is in the best state it has been in the last decade with the depth of talent in the field, the management and the show. In comparison to our population it is every bit as good as the ASBK championship and any other national championship from around the world.

You could bring any rider from around the world into our championship and they would have their work cut out for them

If someone could tell me how I could possibly do a better job than I am doing I would welcome their input (posting on KB hasnt done me any favours lately)


The talent and hard work has never been in question

Now it needs a PROFESSIONAL promoter to convince the public,sponsors and even date I say TV that it is really worth investing time and money in.

I was involved in road racing from the early eighties and can remember when it really was something special.

If anyone who loves the sport as much as I do wants to see anything like that again,a lot of hard work is needed and it starts from the ground up.

If everyone is happy with a club day atmosphere,then as you were........I suspect not as that won't pay the bills for ever will it

[tail_end_charlie]

More umbrella girls......:yes:

Exactly!

Well, not in that I just want to go and oogle the brellie girls, but have them there sorta give the meet an air of seriousness, makes it more than just a club meet.

I'm very much new to the whole road racing scene, so keep that in mind with what I say. The last round of the Nationals this year was held at Taupo, and that was the first "big" bike race I had been to in NZ. I say that in quotes, because it didn't really look any different from a club meet to me as an outsider. Granted, I knew the big names of the road racing scene were there, and the weather was kinda shitty in the morning, but it never really struck me as anything more than a big club meeting. I'm not saying that the organization was lax or shoddy or anything like that, it just didn't seem to be really presented as a big deal. I was expecting to see vendors booths set up selling merchandise, umbrella girls, and maybe some sort of scene on the grid..........you know, like WSBK or MotoGP or BSB or AMA. But no, everyone just sorta went out onto the dummy gird at the last minute, did the warm-up lap, and lined up on the grid before being let loose.

I was there with two of my flatmates, one of which didn't really know much about racing other than what she had watched with me on WSBK. She enjoyed it, but commented on how it wasn't quite what she expected. I had made a big deal about how it would be the last meet of Nationals, and that there was still a fight to win the championship, and how this meet would crown the National champion, blah blah blah. And we did see some good racing, fun to watch, but you sorta looked around and said to yourself "Is this it?"

Now I know that to try and schedule all the racing that needs to happen is difficult, and adding a grid sit (or whatever you call it) would just make things more difficult, but I think it would add something to the 'spectical' of the racing. Make the Nationals meet different from the club meets. And maybe do more for those who can't tell the difference between superbikes and 250 proddies. You know that you will get the motorcycle enthusists there by just having a meet, but to make it into something more, your going to have to cater a bit more to those who arn't necessarily into bikes, but want to go out and see something cool. Setting up a vendor space, keeping the pits area tidy and professional looking, making sure there is plenty of food available (and bathrooms), an information booth for spectators, some sort of podium ceremony, games and bouncy castles for the kids to play in with mum while dad watches the racing, ect ect.

(Oh yeah, and somewhere out of the way, preferably locked up where you can corral the scruffy as, ass-grabing, foul-mouthed and slightly eccentric sidecar racers, don't want the spectators to see/hear them.) ;)

Now in saying all that, keep in mind that I'm not trying to critisize the job that anyone has done with the organization of the meeting. It seemed to me as a spectator to run pretty good. I'm just saying that I think there can be a lot more done to make it more interesting and more fun to a wider range of poeple, and get more publicity, and get more sponsership, and get more international racers, and make it even more competative, which brings in a bigger audience....................

[SWERVE]

Some very valid points there mate. And you are not alone in having those views either. Many spectators / organisers & racers would like to see many of those improvements. As a committee member of MCC i can say we try each year to make the experience a little closer to what you would like to see. In defence of taupo last year it was the clubs first attempt (and from a team ownwers point of view - they did a good job with the actual running of the meeting)
One of the problems we all have with doing the Grid parade thing is the very strict time frames due to restrictions by the local council. If we only had Superbikes / 600s / superlite / 250 proddie classes then we could make a big song n dance about each one..... but with the support classes to consider time is an issue. personally would like to see each round a 3 day event. Fri Practice - Sat morn/early pm qualifying - sat pm support class races - Sunday the top classes only. Similar to some other countries.
There has been a lot of improvement in the last couple of years and it will only get better as we all start to pull in the same direction.
Once again i personally would like to see a promotor take charge.... but it isnt the most attractive package to present at the moment. For this to happen entries and gate fees would rise significantely and that would be an issue for many.
What we do here IS a very far cry from WSBK and probebly will remain..but hopefully it will become a spectacle for the paying public and a must do for more riders.
Hope you werent too put off by your visit last year......... please keep supporting those of us who are trying.

On that note i believe Dean @ Shoutout Promotions is organising a supermoto event for dec 2013 that will be more like what you are suggesting.

[RDjase]

information booth for spectators, some sort of podium ceremony, games and bouncy castles for the kids to play in with mum while dad watches the racing, ect ect.

racers, and make it even more competative, which brings in a bigger audience....................

There was bouncy castles and fair ground stuff there, The weather wasnt kind for the meeting as you know and kept the spectator numbers down

[CHOPPA]

The talent and hard work has never been in question

Now it needs a PROFESSIONAL promoter to convince the public,sponsors and even date I say TV that it is really worth investing time and money in.

I was involved in road racing from the early eighties and can remember when it really was something special.

If anyone who loves the sport as much as I do wants to see anything like that again,a lot of hard work is needed and it starts from the ground up.

If everyone is happy with a club day atmosphere,then as you were........I suspect not as that won't pay the bills for ever will it

Now that is a positive comment, thank you!

[tail_end_charlie]

If we only had Superbikes / 600s / superlite / 250 proddie classes then we could make a big song n dance about each one..... but with the support classes to consider time is an issue. personally would like to see each round a 3 day event. Fri Practice - Sat morn/early pm qualifying - sat pm support class races - Sunday the top classes only. Similar to some other countries.

Yeah, that makes sense. I know that it will make it more expensive for people to race at a meeting thats longer, but it would also give each more time on track and thus more exposure. Plus this is suppose to be Nationals, it's gotta be good.


Once again i personally would like to see a promotor take charge.... but it isnt the most attractive package to present at the moment. For this to happen entries and gate fees would rise significantely and that would be an issue for many.

Yeah, one of the things that is nice about seeing racing in NZ is the fact that you pay $20 for entry, and you can walk around any area of the track (within reason). No special pit passes or VIP areas or any of that jazz. You can walk right up to the current National champ and say hello, that kind of thing isn't so easy in other nations equivalent series.



What we do here IS a very far cry from WSBK and probebly will remain..but hopefully it will become a spectacle for the paying public and a must do for more riders.
Hope you werent too put off by your visit last year......... please keep supporting those of us who are trying.

Definitely wasn't put off. I would label myself as an enthusiast. So yes, I was standing out in the pouring rain on the Sunday of the BSTT and loving every minute of it.............................right up until they called off the rest of the races for the day. :weep:


On that note i believe Dean @ Shoutout Promotions is organising a supermoto event for dec 2013 that will be more like what you are suggesting.

Where?

[shoutout]

Yeah, that makes sense. I know that it will make it more expensive for people to race at a meeting thats longer, but it would also give each more time on track and thus more exposure. Plus this is suppose to be Nationals, it's gotta be good.



Yeah, one of the things that is nice about seeing racing in NZ is the fact that you pay $20 for entry, and you can walk around any area of the track (within reason). No special pit passes or VIP areas or any of that jazz. You can walk right up to the current National champ and say hello, that kind of thing isn't so easy in other nations equivalent series.




Definitely wasn't put off. I would label myself as an enthusiast. So yes, I was standing out in the pouring rain on the Sunday of the BSTT and loving every minute of it.............................right up until they called off the rest of the races for the day. :weep:



Where?

Hi I'm Dean James of Shoutout events Ltd my business partner and i have invested in Powerbuilt Raceway to construct a dirt section for Supermoto Racing, we are well into planning to have ex champion and current champion supermoto riders from around the world attend, we will be bringing the whole circus to town, check out more on our face book site

http://www.facebook.com/ShoutoutEvents

[SWERVE]

There you have it.............. DEAN is a guy who truely understands what an EVENT is all about. These people/dates are COMFIRMED not "talked about or we might be doing" type promises.
CMON folks lets get behind a GUY who has put HIS money behind the sport. This will be an AWESOME event.

[gammaguy]

Now that is a positive comment, thank you!

i respect a person who can dish it out and also praise when appropriate

sometimes harsh words have to be exchanged to get traction.

+1

[Billy]

Some very valid points there mate. And you are not alone in having those views either. Many spectators / organisers & racers would like to see many of those improvements. As a committee member of MCC i can say we try each year to make the experience a little closer to what you would like to see. In defence of taupo last year it was the clubs first attempt (and from a team ownwers point of view - they did a good job with the actual running of the meeting)
One of the problems we all have with doing the Grid parade thing is the very strict time frames due to restrictions by the local council. If we only had Superbikes / 600s / superlite / 250 proddie classes then we could make a big song n dance about each one..... but with the support classes to consider time is an issue. personally would like to see each round a 3 day event. Fri Practice - Sat morn/early pm qualifying - sat pm support class races - Sunday the top classes only. Similar to some other countries.
There has been a lot of improvement in the last couple of years and it will only get better as we all start to pull in the same direction.
Once again i personally would like to see a promotor take charge.... but it isnt the most attractive package to present at the moment. For this to happen entries and gate fees would rise significantely and that would be an issue for many.
What we do here IS a very far cry from WSBK and probebly will remain..but hopefully it will become a spectacle for the paying public and a must do for more riders.
Hope you werent too put off by your visit last year......... please keep supporting those of us who are trying.

On that note i believe Dean @ Shoutout Promotions is organising a supermoto event for dec 2013 that will be more like what you are suggesting.

Actually Merv,

Paul Stewart had the guy who promotes the V8 tourers look at it and while he agreed the product was good,The problem is there was no way he could do the job properly with the money available and make a living,As an example,The teams running in that series are required to pay an upfront series fee(Around $20k I am lead to believe) around $1k per event as an entry fee and are required to run specific parts and tyres from designated suppliers,How many peeps are still keen to go down that track?????

We have a plan and have started on the first step this year and hope in the long run(Approx 5 years) We can raise the profile of the sport significantly both locally and on the international stage with the use and promotion of Grant Collingwoods Ctas system and Nzsbk Motorsport,Hopefully this,Linked with personnel who's sole job is to generate sponsorship solely for the NZSBK series will put us on the right path,

Its worth mentioning at this point,That the television everybody see's as the silver bullet,Has been dragging us down financially and simply isn't working,Add to that this year,TV1 didnt want to air it for free(And air it is all they do,Production costs are met by MNZ),After some very hard work from Paul Stewart,It will air on TV 3.

As an aside Gamma guy,Yip racing in the eightiies was good,Too bad you missed the 70s,Factory machinery,Factory riders,Huge feilds and excitement happening every where,Even when the Supers came here in the late 80s,The atmosphere just wasn't the same as the golden years of the Marlboro series,Sorry you missed,I didnt.

[suzuki21]

Well said Billy. Some people need to understand that believe it or not motorcycle road racing is a minority sport and there is only so much money to go around. The profile has slowly been raised and it wont happen overnight, Im all for grid girls etc but selling our soles to a promoter can be a dangerous move that could splinter a sport into a money making rich mans game. This happened to jetsprints when I raced jetboats in the early 90's - thankyou promo sport you are awesome.
I quite like how the sport is going. The nationals is about finding our champions and that should be the first priority, not prostituting ourselves just so people can flick from motorbikes to reality shows on Tv.
The world is ending today so why are people bothered anyway?

[SWERVE]

Billy. Please donrt think i am knocking what has been happening or what is in the pipeline. 99% of the people involved with the running of the sport and its organistaion are doing a great job and are top people. And yes i agree with you that in this tech age TV is not neccessarily the "golden goose" where as the internet has a far reaching base and is far more adaptable to suit the viewing needs of the masses.
And yes suzuki 21 a promotor can ruin things also. Whilst they need to make money... they also need to be passionate about the sport they promote......
Once again my personal view is that i would happily pay the fees that Aus /etc pay to have the same kind of deal........ but im afraid many many wouldnt.

[Billy]

Billy. Please donrt think i am knocking what has been happening or what is in the pipeline. 99% of the people involved with the running of the sport and its organistaion are doing a great job and are top people. And yes i agree with you that in this tech age TV is not neccessarily the "golden goose" where as the internet has a far reaching base and is far more adaptable to suit the viewing needs of the masses.
And yes suzuki 21 a promotor can ruin things also. Whilst they need to make money... they also need to be passionate about the sport they promote......
Once again my personal view is that i would happily pay the fees that Aus /etc pay to have the same kind of deal........ but im afraid many many wouldnt.

Yea but,

You missed the important bit in Steve's post....The world is ending today,Thank fuck for that,I can finally get some sleep LOL!

[codgyoleracer]

Actually Merv,

Paul Stewart had the guy who promotes the V8 tourers look at it and while he agreed the product was good,The problem is there was no way he could do the job properly with the money available and make a living,As an example,The teams running in that series are required to pay an upfront series fee(Around $20k I am lead to believe) around $1k per event as an entry fee and are required to run specific parts and tyres from designated suppliers,How many peeps are still keen to go down that track?????

We have a plan and have started on the first step this year and hope in the long run(Approx 5 years) We can raise the profile of the sport significantly both locally and on the international stage with the use and promotion of Grant Collingwoods Ctas system and Nzsbk Motorsport,Hopefully this,Linked with personnel who's sole job is to generate sponsorship solely for the NZSBK series will put us on the right path,

Its worth mentioning at this point,That the television everybody see's as the silver bullet,Has been dragging us down financially and simply isn't working,Add to that this year,TV1 didnt want to air it for free(And air it is all they do,Production costs are met by MNZ),After some very hard work from Paul Stewart,It will air on TV 3.

As an aside Gamma guy,Yip racing in the eightiies was good,Too bad you missed the 70s,Factory machinery,Factory riders,Huge feilds and excitement happening every where,Even when the Supers came here in the late 80s,The atmosphere just wasn't the same as the golden years of the Marlboro series,Sorry you missed,I didnt.


Where that might ultimaltey end up Billy is a compaction of classes at national level, combined with a large step up in entry fees that matches the current environment with respect to acceptance by competitors of the true cost it takes to run and promote an events of national stature ?

[Billy]

Where that might ultimaltey end up Billy is a compaction of classes at national level, combined with a large step up in entry fees that matches the current environment with respect to acceptance by competitors of the true cost it takes to run and promote an events of national stature ?

Yea...Umm,

This is kiwibiker,If you want to talk sensibly,You need to ring me,Don't want to confuse those who usually post on here with commonsense and rationale.

[jellywrestler]

The talent and hard work has never been in question

Now it needs a PROFESSIONAL promoter to convince the public,sponsors and even date I say TV that it is really worth investing time and money in.

I was involved in road racing from the early eighties and can remember when it really was something special.

If anyone who loves the sport as much as I do wants to see anything like that again,a lot of hard work is needed and it starts from the ground up.

If everyone is happy with a club day atmosphere,then as you were........I suspect not as that won't pay the bills for ever will it

the 2012 Motorcycling canterbury NZGP at Ruapuna drew a bigger crowd that the V8's did a few weeks earlier, without th V8's budget. it was due to hard work by the promotors...

[Dave-]

Its worth mentioning at this point,That the television everybody see's as the silver bullet,Has been dragging us down financially and simply isn't working,Add to that this year,TV1 didnt want to air it for free(And air it is all they do,Production costs are met by MNZ),After some very hard work from Paul Stewart,It will air on TV 3.
.

That ctas system is really tops, and it's getting better and better every year!

[Biggles08]

Maybe its because I'm not doing it this year, but I have noticed on Facebook a lot more people dressing up their bikes/trailers etc this year than ever before. Its noticeable as I'm getting envious I'm not going. I think there is a movement starting to happen where racers and teams are starting to realize you don't actually have to be part of a massive team to make your pit area look professional. I say good on you all and keep it up...to gain sponsors we have to look professional and act professional to be noticed.

[Billy]

Maybe its because I'm not doing it this year, but I have noticed on Facebook a lot more people dressing up their bikes/trailers etc this year than ever before. Its noticeable as I'm getting envious I'm not going. I think there is a movement starting to happen where racers and teams are starting to realize you don't actually have to be part of a massive team to make your pit area look professional. I say good on you all and keep it up...to gain sponsors we have to look professional and act professional to be noticed.

Not often we agree(Haha),But your on the money with that comment

[RobGassit]

Good luck and best wishes to all the riders competing in the Nationals this year. I hope you all stay safe and have a fabulous time.:yes:

[Oakie]

Hmm. So it's on this weekend huh? If it wasn't for Mrs Oakie asking this afternoon when the bike racing is on I'd have missed it. I've seen not a jot of advertising this time around. (Then again I've not read a newspaper for ages if that's where it's going?)

[SVboy]

On the other hand I have seen plenty of clear roadside billboards, posters in shops and TV ads. Well done so far organisers.

[Oakie]

On the other hand I have seen plenty of clear roadside billboards, posters in shops and TV ads. Well done so far organisers.

Ah well, as long as they're out there it's all good. I remember last year's TV advertising and a billboard just down the road from us. Hope it's as good as last year's event which I think was the best I've been too.

[SWERVE]

Apart from the above mentioned outlets for advertising it has been on the back of busses and on radio for weeks.
This year will be better........... the fields are big and the competition is intense

[The Chow]

Apart from the above mentioned outlets for advertising it has been on the back of busses and on radio for weeks.
This year will be better........... the fields are big and the competition is intense

Hey Merv don't forget the Internet since July this year. On Eventfinder and our own site and Google search . On facebook for months , on Twitter for months. JUST SAYING :-) Its going to be good , remember if you can't be there follow on the Internet. Live Video , commentary and Timing and live up dates on Facebook , Twitter and live blog on nzsuperbike.com website.

[jellywrestler]

Hey Merv don't forget the Internet since July this year. On Eventfinder and our own site and Google search . On facebook for months , on Twitter for months. JUST SAYING :-) Its going to be good , remember if you can't be there follow on the Internet. Live Video , commentary and Timing and live up dates on Facebook , Twitter and live blog on nzsuperbike.com website.
I told my mother last month and she's got a mouth busier than mine too so i'm a bit flummoxed how you don't know about it, and there's sidecars...

[Oakie]

Hey Merv don't forget the Internet since July this year. On Eventfinder and our own site and Google search . On facebook for months , on Twitter for months. JUST SAYING :-)

Yeah but those are all methods that require active searching. They rely on someone being aware that an event is on in the first place and looking for the details. What I didn't get was the advertising of the sort that smacks unaware Joe Public in the face even though it sounds as if it is out there. Not criticising at all ... just saying. (Me not noticing anything probably it says more about me than anything else.)

[Oakie]

I don't suppose there's a program fpr Sunday on-line anywhere is there? We're doing some stuff with daughter number 1 tomorrow morning and I want to know how fast we need to get it done before heading out to the track.

[Mental Trousers]

Pinched from Motorcycling New Zealand's Facebook page.

Timetable for Round 1 Superbike Championship. *subject to change.SATURDAY 5th JANUARY 2013
OFFICIAL PRACTICE & RACE ONE OF THE NZ CHAMPIONSHIP

8.40 am RIDER’S BRIEFING
9.00 am OFFICIAL PRACTICE COMMENCES (as per race order)
2.15 pm RACING COMMENCES

NZ Championship Race One
14.15pm 1. 9 laps Superlite/ 650 Pro Twin
2. 20 min 600cc Supersport Qualifying
3. 9 laps Sidecars
4. 5 laps Development/Buckets
5. 9 laps 125 GP
6. 9 laps 250 Production
7. 5 laps Clubmans
8. 20 min NZ Superbikes Qualifying

SUNDAY 6h JANUARY 2013
NZ CHAMPIONSHIP RACE TWO AND THREE

8.40 am RIDER’S BRIEFING
9.00 am SCRUB IN - 3 laps each class
10.00 am RACING COMMENCES

NZ Championship Race Two
10.00 am 9. 10 laps Superlite/ 650 Pro Twin
10. 15 laps 600 Supersport Race 1
11. 10 laps Sidecars
12. 8 laps Development/Buckets
13. 10 laps 125 GP
14. 10 laps 250 Production
15. 8 laps Clubmans
16. 15 laps NZ Superbikes Race 1

NZ Championship Race Three
NZGP Titles

13.20 pm 17. 10 laps Superlite / 650 Pro Twin
18. 15 laps 600 Supersport Race 2
19. 10 laps Sidecars
20. 10 laps 125 GP
21. 10 laps 250 Production
22. 15 laps NZ Superbikes Race 2
23. 8 laps Development Class/Buckets
24. 8 laps Clubmans

estimated finish 5.00pm

[quickbuck]

I don't suppose there's a program fpr Sunday on-line anywhere is there? We're doing some stuff with daughter number 1 tomorrow morning and I want to know how fast we need to get it done before heading out to the track.

When you go here:
http://www.livetiming.co.nz/wsNZSBK.aspx

There is a little Yellow Button with "Race Schedule" on it.

Hope that helps....

[Oakie]

Thanks for that guys. Should be there to see the end of the second race.

[GD66]

Kept an eye on proceedings from Perth today via Ctas, many thanks to the crew.

BUT

How come NZSBK and 600s only get two races ? I see they get two practice sessions plus a qualifier, but they also have to wait till Sunday for their two races, and I see in the case of SBK they only had 10 finishers, so surely the extra practice session is a bit of a waste, wouldn't you rather be out there RACING your bike instead of practicing ? One practice, one qual and three races like all the support classes would seem to be better value for your hard-earned $$ if you're gonna drag your bike and your sorry arse all over NZ, I'd have thought...
What's the story ?

[Dave-]

Kept an eye on proceedings from Perth today via Ctas, many thanks to the crew.

BUT

How come NZSBK and 600s only get two races ? I see they get two practice sessions plus a qualifier, but they also have to wait till Sunday for their two races, and I see in the case of SBK they only had 10 finishers, so surely the extra practice session is a bit of a waste, wouldn't you rather be out there RACING your bike instead of practicing ? One practice, one qual and three races like all the support classes would seem to be better value for your hard-earned $$ if you're gonna drag your bike and your sorry arse all over NZ, I'd have thought...
What's the story ?

It's in line with WSBK, end of argument.

Great day today, Motorcycling Canterbury really set the standard.

[quickbuck]

Kept an eye on proceedings from Perth today via Ctas, many thanks to the crew.

BUT

How come NZSBK and 600s only get two races ? I see they get two practice sessions plus a qualifier, but they also have to wait till Sunday for their two races, and I see in the case of SBK they only had 10 finishers, so surely the extra practice session is a bit of a waste, wouldn't you rather be out there RACING your bike instead of practicing ? One practice, one qual and three races like all the support classes would seem to be better value for your hard-earned $$ if you're gonna drag your bike and your sorry arse all over NZ, I'd have thought...
What's the story ?

Tim Gibbs mentioned it today on the chat room...
Basically it was because the riders/ teams were sick of shelling out the extra dosh for the extra tyres required for those two classes.
It adds up to 3 races worth, so 6 tyres you don't have to put in the van to take south if from the north island.... (or organise to be picked up down there).

[GD66]

I see, thanks lads.

[bones1999]

Talking about tyres, is it okay to ask why there aren't the major tyre manufactures/ suppliers at the track? 1st Nationals I've been to In New Zealand and I was surprised to not see any there.

[jellywrestler]

How come NZSBK and 600s only get two races ? I see they get two practice sessions plus a qualifier, but they also have to wait till Sunday for their two races, and I see in the case of SBK they only had 10 finishers, so surely the extra practice session is a bit of a waste, wouldn't you rather be out there RACING your bike instead of practicing ? One practice, one qual and three races like all the support classes would seem to be better value for your hard-earned $$ if you're gonna drag your bike and your sorry arse all over NZ, I'd have thought...
What's the story ?
At the end of the day it's their own input that has made it this way, options were placed in front of them and the feedback provided from the teams see it run this way. It works well too

[Dave-]

Talking about tyres, is it okay to ask why there aren't the major tyre manufactures/ suppliers at the track? 1st Nationals I've been to In New Zealand and I was surprised to not see any there.

Actually good point, I saw no trade stands....

To be honest it's hard enough to get the guys at the various suppliers to work on fridays let alone a weekend in the holidays when racing is on, I'd sure rather watch than work.

[Kickaha]

Actually good point, I saw no trade stands....
Triumph/MV was the only one I saw

[300weatherby]

Triumph/MV was the only one I saw

BMW were there, had the latest bike all prepped up just for Bears racing on display as well (groan!) about time that F1 in Bears got changed to match standard rules - Superbike and Supersport classes.

[quickbuck]

Talking about tyres, is it okay to ask why there aren't the major tyre manufactures/ suppliers at the track? 1st Nationals I've been to In New Zealand and I was surprised to not see any there.

It is okay to ask.....
My guess is that most of them are pretty skint on tyres at the momnet, as the show that is the Nationals depletes a lot of the stock....
May not be totally true, as I made it up, but there are a lot of tyres stashed in Vans/ Trailers/ Mates garages etc just to support the 3 weekends down south.
Then there is the 2 rounds up here that need to be covered too....

[Dave-]

It is okay to ask.....
My guess is that most of them are pretty skint on tyres at the momnet, as the show that is the Nationals depletes a lot of the stock....
May not be totally true, as I made it up, but there are a lot of tyres stashed in Vans/ Trailers/ Mates garages etc just to support the 3 weekends down south.
Then there is the 2 rounds up here that need to be covered too....

yeah but they should still have touring/road tyres?

[Fast Eddie]

Triumph/MV was the only one I saw

aw don't forget Harris Pipes, bro!

[quickbuck]

yeah but they should still have touring/road tyres?
Well they could....
But as a user of Touring/Road tyres myself, I would actually prefer it if the dealers only got the tyre in when I ordered it, and it was kept in a nice cool warehouse (or in the shop) out of the sun until I purchased it....

Having them sitting in a rack in the Cantabury heat to show off wouldn't really spin my wheels.....
Others might be happy to buy one, but no thanks from me...

[Robert Taylor]

Talking about tyres, is it okay to ask why there aren't the major tyre manufactures/ suppliers at the track? 1st Nationals I've been to In New Zealand and I was surprised to not see any there.

Simple Rob, there is no margin in the sales to support such adventures.