Why would you need to stand on your foot pegs and do you run red lights?

[bosslady]

Just a couple of questions from some observations I made yesterday... two in one thread, call it multitasking...

1. why would you need to stand on your foot pegs?
Pretty sure when i did my learners test you only needed to stand on your foot pegs when you were going over bumps on the road or something? Yesterday when I was in my cage going up a steep hill near my house I saw a guy on a bike coming down the hill standing on his foot pegs is there a reason for this when coming down a hill?

2. do you run red lights?
I umm observed another (?) biker run a red light yesterday because they waited seriously 5-10 minutes and it just wouldn't trip. I mean what do YOU do in those instances, what can you do really?

[BMWST?]

i sometimes stand on my footpegs to say get a sight line on a narrow road with a humped one way bridge.
I have done the same thing at a red light.But i make absolutely sure no one sees me.Sometimes if you are able press the pedestrian crossing buttons(for across and parrallel to your path).Place your bike in the centre of the land and or above the grid of wires,Sometimes you can see the grid cut into the road
another time a car came up behind me and i made him go around me

[Subike]

My answer to the second question,
I have this happen often going to work before 5.30am. one set of local lights does not pic up my bike on its sensor, thus light does not change . So I get off, push the pedestrians cross button, which activates the lights, get back on and magic! lights change for me.
I would not take the risk of crossing a red, even if the way is obviously clear, is there a camera surverying the intersection? am I going to get a ticket in the mail?
As for the ride on the pegs thing, well, there are those better at explaining the virtues / dangers of this. IMO, dont do it till you know you bike a heap lot better girl. Like in say 2 years time.....

[AllanB]

If you are wearing leathers it is essential to stand on your pegs if you want to let a good fart out. The combination of thick leather and pressure on ones bottom from seating just won't allow the gas to escape. Thus the standing on the pegs.

[huff3r]

I can trigger the lights on my alloy bicycle. It's all about hitting the right spot in the right way. Stop over the middle of the three tar lines showing where the sensor is, the middle one is more sensitive as it's where the two loops cross. I'm not sure if it helps, but I always carry just a little more speed and come to a slightly more abrupt than normal stop on the line too.

Just be careful when it's when etc, as being tar they are slippery.

[Zamiam]

1. Common practice for of road riding as you have better control / can move your weight around faster/easier. Wouldn't have thought it necessary on the road. Other possibility is rider was having a stretch

2. Unless the rider wants to wait for a car to trip the detectors they had no option but to do this

[Subike]

1.

2. Unless the rider wants to wait for a car to trip the detectors they had no option but to do this

always an option Z. there is no such thing as a no option situation when it comes to the road. Thats like saying "I had no option but to fall off my bike in front of that truck". Always an option, you just have to find it.

[unstuck]

Standing on the pegs is good for seeing over peoples fences and hedges.:blip:

[unstuck]

Oh, and I drive trough all lights when im in the big smoke, cos we are just dont have em down here.:Punk:

[PrincessBandit]

Question 1: I only stand on my pegs when my backside is getting numb

Question 2: Even on the bandit I've been held up at lights which won't change for me. When it happens relatively late at night I'll often wait a bit then just go, during the day when there are more vehicles around I'll make sure I'm pulled up as far as possible to the painted line and hope a car comes up close enough behind me to trip them. If there's absolutely nothing around I have been known to go through the red and accept the consequences should I get a ticket. Never happened. Yet.

[Kornholio]

I stand on my pegs when I have the front wheel in the air, great view from up there :scooter:

[redhat]

1. I stand up on the pegs when I need a stretch/bum is sore. The DR-Z seat doesn't offer much in terms of long-distance comfort. Could have been me you saw yesterday.

2. I've been in that situation before and if no cars are waiting behind you then there isn't much else you can do...

[george formby]

The rider may have stood up to allow some air flow around the swannickles. It's muggy out & a build up of gurrup can be most unpleasant. Then again, it may have been a variation of the "I'm a little teapot" position I often see sprot bike riders assume when they are going through town.

[onearmedbandit]

Putting your side stand down can sometimes trigger the lights, unless all those times for me where coincidence.

Standing on the pegs? I only do that through fast bumpy sections.

[bosslady]

If you are wearing leathers it is essential to stand on your pegs if you want to let a good fart out. The combination of thick leather and pressure on ones bottom from seating just won't allow the gas to escape. Thus the standing on the pegs.

This literally made me lol

[300weatherby]

Standing on the footpegs allows vision past vehicals when looking to pass in the urban environment, or in tighter twisty stiff, but dont want collected by opposing traffic like cyclists, they have a small profile and change direction fast (and are generally retarded).

The other reason is to soak up bigger bumps without changing your line or upsetting the suspension

[nzmikey]

This literally made me lol

1 ) Standing up ... fixes numb bum / need to fart

2 ) Lights ... yup do it often ... Mostly at night ...

as for the camera thing .. .If your bike does not set off the sensor then I am sure there is fuck all chance in it clicking for a red light ticket

[bosslady]

anyway I'm clearly talking about myself I got stuck at a set of lights yesterday. I serously waited ages and kept trying to move back and forwards to see if I could trigger it and nothing! I was also on a slight incline at the top of a hill at a busy intersection.. and to get to the ped button I would've had to run across two lanes of traffic. I waited ages for another car to come but I was turning right and the other lane (s) were going straight or left. I've never run a red light, ever, not on purpose anyway, didn't know what to do!

[Subike]

Standing on the footpegs allows vision past vehicals when looking to pass in the urban environment, or in tighter twisty stiff, but dont want collected by opposing traffic like cyclists, they have a small profile and change direction fast (and are generally retarded).

The other reason is to soak up bigger bumps without changing your line or upsetting the suspension

We who have had the pleasure of riding for a good amount of time, think nothing of doing this. we understand without thinking its advantage. But for you bosslady, just learning to ride, learning balance, control, the mechanics of riding, adding this into the mix is not wise. I understand bosslady, that you are asking out of interest as to why this is done, and you have has some good answers. I think those who have answered you would also agree that you will find yourself doing this one day almost without thinking as your skills improve. But we would also not recommend you trying it as a skill just yet.

[Subike]

1 ) .

as for the camera thing .. .If your bike does not set off the sensor then I am sure there is fuck all chance in it clicking for a red light ticket


The intersection I traverse has a traffic camera on it, not a red light camera, these cameras are monitered, and they record time slots.

[McFatty1000]

We who have had the pleasure of riding for a good amount of time, think nothing of doing this. we understand without thinking its advantage. But for you bosslady, just learning to ride, learning balance, control, the mechanics of riding, adding this into the mix is not wise. I understand bosslady, that you are asking out of interest as to why this is done, and you have has some good answers. I think those who have answered you would also agree that you will find yourself doing this one day almost without thinking as your skills improve. But we would also not recommend you trying it as a skill just yet.

Agree with you there - in Chch its a skill you learn quite fast due to the bumps being more common than actual road but even now I don't stand up fully on my pegs if I can help it

[FJRider]

This literally made me lol

The method he describes works well too ... if it's not just a fart ... (another reason not to tuck your trousers into your boots)

[bosslady]

We who have had the pleasure of riding for a good amount of time, think nothing of doing this. we understand without thinking its advantage. But for you bosslady, just learning to ride, learning balance, control, the mechanics of riding, adding this into the mix is not wise. I understand bosslady, that you are asking out of interest as to why this is done, and you have has some good answers. I think those who have answered you would also agree that you will find yourself doing this one day almost without thinking as your skills improve. But we would also not recommend you trying it as a skill just yet.

Yea just asking out of interest, not because I want to attempt it. Thought he was prolly being a show off, t-shirt, shorts, maybe stretching his legs I guess...

[nzmikey]

The intersection I traverse has a traffic camera on it, not a red light camera, these cameras are monitered, and they record time slots.

Well the people looking at them would have to be on the ball if they wanted your plate ( at night ) & even then they are a prick of a thing to look at with low light cameras since the tail light & number plate are bright & it trips the cameras up

[HenryDorsetCase]

standing up allows my bits to settle into a more comfortable position.

I dont generally run red lights but sometimes I do.

I've seen things you... people, wouldn't believe.

[FJRider]

anyway I'm clearly talking about myself I got stuck at a set of lights yesterday. I serously waited ages and kept trying to move back and forwards to see if I could trigger it and nothing! I was also on a slight incline at the top of a hill at a busy intersection.. and to get to the ped button I would've had to run across two lanes of traffic. I waited ages for another car to come but I was turning right and the other lane (s) were going straight or left. I've never run a red light, ever, not on purpose anyway, didn't know what to do!

The timing of some sets of traffic light may vary considerably ... but a busy intersection one will/should change ... eventually. Be patient ... not pissed off. And more importantly ... be safe.

[bosslady]

The timing of some sets of traffic light may vary considerably ... but a busy intersection one will/should change ... eventually. Be patient ... not pissed off. And more importantly ... be safe.

Yes but I think the other cars got their lights 4 times each at least. Next time I'll just wait longer...

[Ocean1]

The timing of some sets of traffic light may vary considerably ... but a busy intersection one will/should change ... eventually. Be patient ... not pissed off. And more importantly ... be safe.

Most lights aren't controlled by a simple timer, if the sensor's not picking up the presence of a bike you'll wait there forever. I wait one cycle, then wait for a safe gap and go against the red. Then call the local council and tell them about it, they'll get a tech dude out to adjust the sensor.

[FJRider]

Yea just asking out of interest, not because I want to attempt it. Thought he was prolly being a show off, t-shirt, shorts, maybe stretching his legs I guess...

Some long-distance riders have a length of hose from (you know where) down their trouser leg to below boot level ... so they need not stop for a pee. Standing prevents (lessons the chance of) the hose kinking.

So if you are behind another rider that has just stood up ... ;)

[bosslady]

Some long-distance riders have a length of hose from (you know where) down their trouser leg to below boot level ... so they need not stop for a pee. Standing prevents (lessons the chance of) the hose kinking.

So if you are behind another rider that has just stood up ... ;)

I'm pretty sure you're joking but boys are gross so you never know...

[FJRider]

I'm pretty sure you're joking but boys are gross so you never know...

Actually ... no I'm not. But I did say long distance riders. Not the usual day riders ... (but you may never know)

[bosslady]

gross lol....

[dino3310]

I ride standing up quite a bit around town.... better vision for me, more visable to others, and on the XR its quite comfortable standing, more breeze in the slow traffic for cooling. quite often cages pull out from give ways and state they didnt see you so i try to identify a possible incedent and stand to make my self more visible plus giving me more sight and in a lot of cases more control.... but i wouldnt recommend it on a GN or simular especially if inexperienced.

[slofox]

1.) I stand up on the pegs to get rid of the cramp in my hip...amongst other things like bumps and farts, already covered here.

2.) I've only ever once had a red light that wouldn't change. And eventually I just rode on through, thereby committing a heinous crime and threatening the very fabric of the universe...

[Marmoot]

1. why would you need to stand on your foot pegs?

To do a standup wheelie.

[nadroj]

Actually ... no I'm not. But I did say long distance riders. Not the usual day riders ... (but you may never know)

Older riders with prostrate control problems?










Ok I admit owning one but currently unused.......

[FJRider]

Older riders with prostrate control problems?

I may consider it when I get old ... and suffer from the problem :pinch:


Ok I admit owning one but currently unused.......

You wouldn't admit to getting a used one would you .. ;)

[nadroj]

I may consider it when I get old ... and suffer from the problem :pinch:



You wouldn't admit to getting a used one would you .. ;)

Na .... picked it up from the rest home personally!

[wickle]

1 ) Standing up ... fixes numb bum / need to fart

also i do it as long rides get cramp in hips area (bilatral hip replacement)

[Maha]

Numb arse?...I stop and get off..
Tired legs that need a stretch?...let them hang free for a 20 seconds.

[mossy1200]

If girl in the car in the next lane has a short skirt on ill stand up on the pegs.

It obvious what your up to though. Be carefull of road rage ladies.

[rastuscat]

but dont want collected by opposing traffic like cyclists, they have a small profile and change direction fast (and are generally retarded).

I know quite a few motorcyclists who are also road cyclists.

How did you ever come up with the plonker comment you made above?

I doubt that many road cyclists are actually retarded. Unless they are on KB.

[iYRe]

1. to stretch.

2. Common problem, especially for bicyclists.. the lights should register a bicycle, let alone a motorbike, so if they do not you can report them to the council:
http://www.aucklandtransport.govt.nz/online-services/feedback/general-feedback.aspx
http://www.aucklandtransport.govt.nz/about-us/contact-us/Pages/default.aspx

I've reported a few lights, plus some sections of road that are dangerous for bicyclists... They have got back to me each time, and supposedly they keep you updated

[swbarnett]

1. why would you need to stand on your foot pegs?
My joints sometimes decide they don't like me and essentially stop working. I've had this problem on and off since birth. Being held in one position too long makes this more likely. Sometimes I just need to straighten my legs to get them working properly again. A bit of wait on them also helps.

Other times I just need to get some air past my nether regions on a hot day.


2. do you run red lights?
I umm observed another (?) biker run a red light yesterday because they waited seriously 5-10 minutes and it just wouldn't trip. I mean what do YOU do in those instances, what can you do really?
You are allowed to legally cross against a red light, with extreme caution obviously, if the light is malfunctioning. As far as I'm concerned any light that won't trip for a legal road user is malfunctioning.

[chasio]

The rider may have stood up to allow some air flow around the swannickles. It's muggy out & a build up of gurrup can be most unpleasant.

1. +1. I was sweating cobs yest'y... It it was Easton Park Parade, I know this to be the right answer :sweatdrop. Mind you they have installed some judder bars on it as well, so that is another reason to be standing up.

2. Re: red lights, I find killing the motor and restarting it generates enough field to be picked up in nearly every situation EXCEPT when coming out of Akoranga bus station via the lights onto Esmonde Rd. I assume they are tuned for big vehicles, so I won't test a bike around there again.

[Gremlin]

1. why would you need to stand on your foot pegs?
a. stretching
b. change in position
c. increased control of bike in certain situations (normally adventure riding). Standing on the pegs makes your body contact points the pegs instead of seat, thereby lowering your centre of gravity. Also increases input amounts on pegs for weight shifting... found it much easier when tramlining in lines of gravel to be able to get out.
d. Increased air flow if you have big screens. Did it today on the motorway coming back into Auckland. Air flowing through gear felt great.


2. do you run red lights?
Occasionally, if the light won't pick up my presence. Only know of one or two, most of the time I ride a different route. I wait a couple of minutes (it's longer than you think) giving it ample opportunity to detect me, or 2-3 phases of lights. If still no success then the lights are clearly faulty and I proceed with caution, applying the give way rules.

[Nova.]

i didnt even know there was sensors ! :brick:

[Mom]

Occasionally, if the light won't pick up my presence.

If they cant detect you then they clearly MUST be broken :yes:

[swbarnett]

Standing on the pegs makes your body contact points the pegs instead of seat, thereby lowering your centre of gravity.
Actualy you've raised your centre of gravity. Standing on the pegs doesn't change the mass of the bike and rider combination. The upward force resisting that of Gravity is stll acting through the tyres so the bike and rider are still one unit of mass. What you have done is allow the bike to move more freely from side to side by removing the need for the rider to move with it.

[FJRider]

Actualy you've raised your centre of gravity. Standing on the pegs doesn't change the mass of the bike and rider combination. The upward force resisting that of Gravity is stll acting through the tyres so the bike and rider are still one unit of mass. What you have done is allow the bike to move more freely from side to side by removing the need for the rider to move with it.

I think the theory is ... sitting puts (most) weight on the seat. Standing puts (most) weight on the foot pegs. Thus center of gravity is lowered.

[bluninja]

I think the theory is ... sitting puts (most) weight on the seat. Standing puts (most) weight on the foot pegs. Thus center of gravity is lowered.

Centre of gravity is raised if you stand up. However your mass is acting on the footpegs and allows you to pivot "freely" around them for lateral and longitudinal movements of the bike.

If standing on pegs really lowered CG then you'd see road racers crouched over behind fairing, bum off seat, one foot on inside peg...thus transferring all their weight lower, and to the inside of the corner....nah :) By the same logic if you have a rearset and do a standup wheelie your COG will be lowered and the bike will be totally stable :lol:

[FJRider]

Centre of gravity is raised if you stand up. However your mass is acting on the footpegs and allows you to pivot "freely" around them for lateral and longitudinal movements of the bike.



Actually ... the effect you have on a motorcycle when you stand up ... has more to do with leverage, than its center of gravity.

[Subike]

I think the theory is ... sitting puts (most) weight on the seat. Standing puts (most) weight on the foot pegs. Thus center of gravity is lowered.


Actually ... the effect you have on a motorcycle when you stand up ... has more to do with leverage, than its center of gravity.

so which is it trev?

[Brayden]

I run reds all the time. FTP yo

[FJRider]

so which is it trev?

I believe the latter. As for the former ... it is just a theory some hold.

A question for the racers ... does your bike handle better through the turns (better or worse) with a full tank of fuel ??? (not to be confused with going faster)

On an FJ1200 ... the effects of gravity is often noticed ... and not always to my advantage.

[swbarnett]

I think the theory is ... sitting puts (most) weight on the seat. Standing puts (most) weight on the foot pegs. Thus center of gravity is lowered.
Yeah, that's where most people go wrong. The attachment point of the rider is irellevant to CG. The only thing that matters is the overall mass of the system (bike and rider in this case) and it's distribution within the system. Putting more mass higher in the system, which is what happens when you stand on the pegs, raises the CG.

[Zamiam]

anyway I'm clearly talking about myself I got stuck at a set of lights yesterday. I serously waited ages and kept trying to move back and forwards to see if I could trigger it and nothing! I was also on a slight incline at the top of a hill at a busy intersection.. and to get to the ped button I would've had to run across two lanes of traffic. I waited ages for another car to come but I was turning right and the other lane (s) were going straight or left. I've never run a red light, ever, not on purpose anyway, didn't know what to do!

The other option in this case is turn left and do a u turn somewhere safe down the road

[SNF]

If you are wearing leathers it is essential to stand on your pegs if you want to let a good fart out. The combination of thick leather and pressure on ones bottom from seating just won't allow the gas to escape. Thus the standing on the pegs.
Hahahaha! Reckon the bike went/will go any faster?

#1 I also stand up a little/brace myself for speed bumps. Damn road I live by is full of them with no escape. I didn't brace once and got sore nuts - not fun.

#2 This ALWAYS happened when I was on the Jog. I would mumble, get off and press the button for peds. Once I thought about jumping the lights at 2 am. Was just winding back the throttle, about to go and a cop went flying through the intersection lights and sirens. Scared the shit outta me! Was glad I didn't go, I always use the button after that. Hasn't really happened with the bike yet, most times I'm in a line of cars (not ready for filtering just yet, do it on the Jog all the time though). So yeah just cos its clear, be careful.....

[bosslady]

quite a few speed bumps out my way too, I don't stand up though but spose I don't have nuts to look after either :laugh:

[nadroj]

quite a few speed bumps out my way too, I don't stand up though but spose I don't have nuts to look after either :laugh:

Ladies are better at squatting so take your weight off the seat when going over humps/ bumps.

[300weatherby]

I know quite a few motorcyclists who are also road cyclists.

How did you ever come up with the plonker comment you made above?

I doubt that many road cyclists are actually retarded. Unless they are on KB.

Bugger off!

Christchurch cyclists are often retarded and do as much dumb stuff on the road as any other, often because they seem to believe the general road rules do not apply to them, a position seemingly not opposed by those who would quickly pursue other forms of transport for "infringing", it is of course possible cyclists get away with the stunts they pull cause they have nowhere to carry donuts.............

[FJRider]

Bugger off!

Christchurch cyclists are often retarded and do as much dumb stuff on the road as any other, often because they seem to believe the general road rules do not apply to them, a position seemingly not opposed by those who would quickly pursue other forms of transport for "infringing", it is of course possible cyclists get away with the stunts they pull cause they have nowhere to carry donuts.............

And police seldom pursue an infringement because the shits seldom carry ID ... and is time consuming to ensure they are who they say they are. Not worth the time/bother for plod to find out . .. so plod don't ...

[AllanB]

Fucking Christchurch cyclists.

[bosslady]

Oh you guys....

[Gremlin]

Yeah, that's where most people go wrong. The attachment point of the rider is irellevant to CG. The only thing that matters is the overall mass of the system (bike and rider in this case) and it's distribution within the system. Putting more mass higher in the system, which is what happens when you stand on the pegs, raises the CG.
Oh for gods sake, I knew writing that would probably start that debate again, but I had to at least put it in as a reason for standing.

I don't care about the words, I don't care about the science, I just ride. My weight being transmitted through the pegs instead of the seat gives greater control in more technical stuff, bike handles more easily etc.

And it's christmas... ride more :yawn:

[FJRider]

so which is it trev?

Think on this ...

Does it have to be one ... OR the other .. ??

Because center of gravity, and leverage ... are definitely not the same thing.

[Kornholio]

Ladies are better at squatting so take your weight off the seat when going over humps/ bumps.

Plus they can also 'suction cup' themselves to the seat too for better hangerr-onerring....

[swbarnett]

Oh for gods sake, I knew writing that would probably start that debate again,
No debate, just basic physics. Sorry to be a pedant.


but I had to at least put it in as a reason for standing.
What you said here fits the bill perfectly:

I don't care about the words, I don't care about the science, I just ride. My weight being transmitted through the pegs instead of the seat gives greater control in more technical stuff, bike handles more easily etc.

[Road kill]

I have a funny hip "which ain't that funny really" so when it starts to lock up and remind me it's still there I'll often stand up to help it relax a bit,,,,or I'm just fuckin' about which all motorcyclists are allowed to do anyway.

In Hamilton I once rode through a red that wouldn't change and very shortly after I had a cop tell me I should of got off the bike an pushed it over the curb then around the corner and back onto the road,,,,at 2:00am 1975 in Hamilton.

So I just ride through the bloody things after a quick look about to make sure that cops not still about.

[arcane12]

Blah blah blah physics blah blah centre of mass blah suspension blah blah unsprung mass. Meh, terminology.

Anyway, traffic lights - as mentioned riding over the black tar strips, particularly the middle one, will set them off. It works on induction which means you need to have something metal near the wires underground. So putting the side stand down could work iff you are a bitt off, plus it is closer to the ground and could be made of a different material to your rims. My cruiser being low to the ground seems to have less trouble, plus I usually aim for the centre tar line.

[bluninja]

Anyway, traffic lights - as mentioned riding over the black tar strips, particularly the middle one, will set them off. It works on induction which means you need to have something metal near the wires underground. So putting the side stand down could work iff you are a bitt off, plus it is closer to the ground and could be made of a different material to your rims. My cruiser being low to the ground seems to have less trouble, plus I usually aim for the centre tar line.

Does your Suzook not have a cutout switch if you put the side stand down in gear? Or are you advocating: stop, select neutral, put side stand down, lights change, select gear, engine cuts out, Doh!

Why not put metal skids under your boots?

[iYRe]

Blah blah blah physics blah blah centre of mass blah suspension blah blah unsprung mass. Meh, terminology.

Anyway, traffic lights - as mentioned riding over the black tar strips, particularly the middle one, will set them off. It works on induction which means you need to have something metal near the wires underground. So putting the side stand down could work iff you are a bitt off, plus it is closer to the ground and could be made of a different material to your rims. My cruiser being low to the ground seems to have less trouble, plus I usually aim for the centre tar line.


Also, as I said before, the sensors are supposed to work for bicycles as well as cars, motorbikes, etc (which incidentally would cause a problem if they are induction fired, since a lot of road bikes these days are mostly, if not totally carbon, but that's beside the point). The advocacy group, Cycle Action Auckland has a working relationship with the council, and they have asked many times, and been told that ALL light controlled intersections SHOULD trigger for something as small as a bicycle, if not, they are not set up correctly (ie faulty) and they should be reported to the council.

I expect this is the same for most major city councils, but it is at least true in Auckland, so if you are in Auckland, and you stop at lights that dont trigger, do EVERYONE a favour and call the council's fault line, get them to fix it (and they do.. I've now had 2 repaired, on my bicycle route.. just one more to go)

[bosslady]

Also, as I said before, the sensors are supposed to work for bicycles as well as cars, motorbikes, etc (which incidentally would cause a problem if they are induction fired, since a lot of road bikes these days are mostly, if not totally carbon, but that's beside the point). The advocacy group, Cycle Action Auckland has a working relationship with the council, and they have asked many times, and been told that ALL light controlled intersections SHOULD trigger for something as small as a bicycle, if not, they are not set up correctly (ie faulty) and they should be reported to the council.

I expect this is the same for most major city councils, but it is at least true in Auckland, so if you are in Auckland, and you stop at lights that dont trigger, do EVERYONE a favour and call the council's fault line, get them to fix it (and they do.. I've now had 2 repaired, on my bicycle route.. just one more to go)

I should probably do that then

[iYRe]

I should probably do that then

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[bosslady]

Does your Suzook not have a cutout switch if you put the side stand down in gear? Or are you advocating: stop, select neutral, put side stand down, lights change, select gear, engine cuts out, Doh!

Why not put metal skids under your boots?

Wonder what you mean? I know on my bike there is no cutout and every time I go to get off I stop, side stand, neutral, turn off bike, get off (without falling, hopefully)


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I'll try and do it today, maybe on my lunch break.

[bluninja]

Wonder what you mean? I know on my bike there is no cutout and every time I go to get off I stop, side stand, neutral, turn off bike, get off (without falling, hopefully)

On modern suzukis there is a engine cutout switch when you have the sidestand down and the clutch out. So typically you put the bike in gear, feed out the clutch and ...the engine stops cos the sidestand is down. I have in the past ridden off with my sidestand down on an old Suzuki A100, all good till you get to a left hander. Modern Suzukis also have this wonderful startup that requires you to pull the clutch in before you can start it.

BTW always a good tip to put the bike on it's sidestand before dismounting. It's not funny when you stop the bike, kick stand down, dismount whilst leaning bike onto sidestand that isn't down and then trying to hold up leant over bike whilst balanced on one leg.

Nothing to do with footpeg standing, or going through red lights, so as you were.

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Yup my bike does have a cutout, which is one of the reasons why I don't do this. My bad, I should have quoted the person who mentioned he does this.

Bosslady: some (not all) bikes have a engine kill hooked up to stop you from doing certain things - like putting the side stand down when the bike could be moving (in gear). My bike will also not start unless in neutral with the clutch in. Kinda redundant I think, but I guess if the gear was to slip during starting...

Bluninja: I think my riding boots might already have metal shims in the soles so they might help... but as I said, I have very little issues now I know to ride over the centre line for best effect. I guess I should report any I have issues with too!

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Bluninja: I think my riding boots might already have metal shims in the soles so they might help...

My Daytona boots have a metal tang in the sole to protect my foot, but never had a problem at red lights..maybe that's why :)