100km without getting my arse off the bike [Archive]

bosslady

1st January 2013, 16:00

A continuation of my "So I went out for a ride tonight" thread here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/155297-So-I-went-out-for-a-ride-tonight

Riding for 2.1 weeks now (not incl. the couple of lessons i had in a car park). This time last week the thought of going on a main road was unnerving, the motorway? unthinkable! Tackled the motorway Sunday just been, the harbour bridge yesterday and had a longish ride today. Been getting out almost any chance I can when its not been raining and/or I haven't had to work, not all of us get time off, slackers! (kidding!!)

Anyway first ride for 100km without getting my semi fat arse off the bike. Birkenhead to Orewa, tiki tour around, through Silverdale briefly then back on the motorway and all the way to Manukau, didnt get off the whole time, 100km done and dusted (technically it was 98km if you want to be super anal about it) grabbed some sushi, had a drink then back to birkenhead. My wee adventures have tuckered me out and I've only done 160km in total today :laugh: what a soft touch.....

Had first mentor-ing session with a KB mentor yesterday, went really well, need to work on a few things before seeing him again but all in all was a great confidence booster!

What will tomorrow bring? What milestones next?

BMWST?

1st January 2013, 16:03

Katman

1st January 2013, 16:05

What will tomorrow bring?

Another six threads?

bosslady

1st January 2013, 16:13

well done.Keep the sessions short enough so you can still stay mentally alert too,not just the physical side of it.Also be aware that a ride in adverse consitions can be more taxing than ideal conditions.The wind can have a huge effect on things

You're quite right, I knew to pack it in and go home, I'd had enough for the day. It wasn't raining, clearly, there was a little wind which as a newbie definitely keeps you on your toes but adverse conditions wise was pretty mild.

Another six threads?

Thanks for your kind words, surprisingly the first sarcastic comment I've had so far, so I've done well! I have tried to keep most of my posts to singular threads but nonetheless... There will be other newbies out there that will find it interesting to read, I know I've found it interesting reading about how newbies have progressed. Anyway thanks for feeding my thread.

BMWST?

1st January 2013, 16:16

You're quite right, I knew to pack it in and go home, I'd had enough for the day. It wasn't raining, clearly, there was a little wind which as a newbie definitely keeps you on your toes but adverse conditions wise was pretty mild.

Thanks for your kind words, surprisingly the first sarcastic comment I've had so far, so I've done well! I have tried to keep most of my posts to singular threads but nonetheless... There will be other newbies out there that will find it interesting to read, I know I've found it interesting reading about how newbies have progressed. Anyway thanks for feeding my thread.

dont mind him.He means well but he cant help himself.I dont know what he said cos i have him on ignore but i bet it was very helpful

FJRider

1st January 2013, 16:17

... then back on the motorway and all the way to Manukau,

Missed the turn-off to your place .. or forgot where you lived .. ??? ;)

Had first mentor-ing session with a KB mentor yesterday, went really well, need to work on a few things before seeing him again but all in all was a great confidence booster!

What will tomorrow bring? What milestones next?

By the next mentoring session ... you will have a few more questions ... as you think of them, write them down. (I forget such things if I don't)

That full tank ride still awaits ... :rockon:

Reserve is optional ... :yes:

Katman

1st January 2013, 16:18

I dont know what he said cos i have him on ignore but i bet it was very helpful

Don't lie - I bet you peeked.

FJRider

1st January 2013, 16:21

Another six threads?

Give her a break ... :lol:

Her post count is rising ... "Senior Member" is 325 posts ... and she'll be able to see who gives (and has given) rep. Probably the (HER) "Next milestone" ...

I reckon that might be before Friday ... :killingme

FJRider

1st January 2013, 16:27

dont mind him.He means well but he cant help himself.I dont know what he said cos i have him on ignore but i bet it was very helpful

I don't ignore anybody ... But I don't always do as they say I should ... or believe what they write ... or even read what they write. ( if it suits... me .. !!)

PrincessBandit

1st January 2013, 16:27

bosslady

1st January 2013, 16:28

Missed the turn-off to your place .. or forgot where you lived .. ??? ;)

Shush you! No, I wanted to ride further but wasn't sure where I wanted to go :P

Give her a break ... :lol:

Her post count is rising ... "Senior Member" is 325 posts ... and she'll be able to see who gives (and has given) rep. Probably the (HER) "Next milestone" ...

I reckon that might be before Friday ... :killingme

Cheeky bugger pretty sure my membership is too green to be considered a senior member, regardless of post count so that's definitely not the motive behind my posting :P Single young lady, no hobbies, no social life, blame it on that! ;)

FJRider

1st January 2013, 16:33

Don't be surprised if you get a sore bottom once longer rides are a regular part of your routine.

Free bottom massages are often often offered to ladies requiring such on some group rides ...

bosslady

1st January 2013, 16:35

Don't be surprised if you get a sore bottom once longer rides are a regular part of your routine. Don't lean on your wrists either, so they don't bear extra unintentional weight (although that becomes more of an issue once you have a bike which doesn't have such an upright riding position).

I find the quickest indicator that I'm getting tired on a ride (and therefore potentially less aware of hazards etc.) is a reduction in my mirror checking/eye movement i.e. eyes moving within a relatively small scanning distance rather than your "bubble".

P.s. just checked your bike, so my comment about leaning on wrists won't apply as you ride a ginny. Something to think about for later perhaps.

ahhh was about to ask what you meant about leaning on wrists but just seen your edit, lol. I do need to relax though and was told as much by my mentor. Had major "death grip" riding on the mway, apparently when you ride faster-ish you need to hold on for dear life (no, you don't)! I'll keep an eye on those warning signs you mentioned though for sure.

PrincessBandit

1st January 2013, 16:36

Free bottom massages are often often offered to ladies requiring such on some group rides ...

Shit, I obviously ride with the wrong crowd then... :eek5:

bosslady

1st January 2013, 16:36

Free bottom massages are often often offered to ladies requiring such on some group rides ...

wow, good to hear, knew I got into biking for all the right reasons ;)

Maha

1st January 2013, 16:41

dont mind him.He means well but he cant help himself.I dont know what he said cos i have him on ignore but i bet it was very helpful

He said this...''Another six threads''?
But I remember all to well my first BIG ride...all of about 80kms....thought I was doing really well...;)

FJRider

1st January 2013, 18:09

Shit, I obviously ride with the wrong crowd then... :eek5:

Bottoms that only require one pair of hands usually take precedence .... :pinch:

PrincessBandit

1st January 2013, 18:44

Bottoms that only require one pair of hands usually take precedence .... :pinch:

You cheeky bugger. I'll indulge on some roflmao in order to shrink it then! We start our SI road trip tomorrow so if you see a burgman and a bandit (with a large derriere'd rider) galavanting around your neck of the woods in a few days time I'll pull over and you can assess for yourself!

FJRider

1st January 2013, 18:53

You cheeky bugger. I'll indulge on some roflmao in order to shrink it then! We start our SI road trip tomorrow so if you see a burgman and a bandit (with a large derriere'd rider) galavanting around your neck of the woods in a few days time I'll pull over and you can assess for yourself!

You should be aware ... "Galavanting" is not permitted in this area ... subject to the fine of (at least) one flat white ...

(and a note added to rep)

bosslady

1st January 2013, 18:55

You cheeky bugger. I'll indulge on some roflmao in order to shrink it then! We start our SI road trip tomorrow so if you see a burgman and a bandit (with a large derriere'd rider) galavanting around your neck of the woods in a few days time I'll pull over and you can assess for yourself!

give him a slap upside the head for me too if you see him ;)

FJRider

1st January 2013, 19:09

give him a slap upside the head for me too if you see him ;)

I might offer a bottom massage ... just to show I mean well ... :yes: :innocent:

swtfa

1st January 2013, 19:20

I have tried to keep most of my posts to singular threads but nonetheless... There will be other newbies out there that will find it interesting to read, I know I've found it interesting reading about how newbies have progressed. Anyway thanks for feeding my thread.

I am enjoying reading your posts :)

caseye

1st January 2013, 19:23

Enjoy the trip you two buggers, and FJ, if you needed two hands I'd bet it wasn't our PB's derriere you was massaging!
Bosslady, don't listen to too much shiet on here aye, enjoy what you are doing and do it often, who gives a big fat rats backside what anyone else thinks as good old Chris Carter of ZB used to say.

unstuck

1st January 2013, 19:28

Good on ya. Next it will be up to russell for fish and chips.:2thumbsup

FJRider

1st January 2013, 19:35

Good on ya. Next it will be up to russell for fish and chips.:2thumbsup

Actually ... not really a bad idea. ;) :woohoo:

bosslady

1st January 2013, 19:49

Good on ya. Next it will be up to russell for fish and chips.:2thumbsup

I don't think I've been that far up the north island, I'll put that on my list for one day soon :)
240km, 3 hours, that'd be a big ask for a wee bit lol

The End

1st January 2013, 19:53

I don't think I've been that far up the north island, I'll put that on my list for one day soon :)
240km, 3 hours, that'd be a big ask for a wee bit lol

Trust me, it passes real quick.

Decided to go for a quick blat down the western motorway last week. Ended up doing a 380km round trip through Kaipara, Mangawhai and Waiwera. Once you get home and realise what you've just done, you feel a bit of satisfaction. Especially on a 225 :Punk:

Maha

1st January 2013, 19:57

I don't think I've been that far up the north island, I'll put that on my list for one day soon :)
240km, 3 hours, that'd be a big ask for a wee bit lol

And thats you averaging 80kph.
Can I ask what speed you reached on this solo effort and what speed you found was comfortable to sustain?

bosslady

1st January 2013, 19:59

Trust me, it passes real quick.

Decided to go for a quick blat down the western motorway last week. Ended up doing a 380km round trip through Kaipara, Mangawhai and Waiwera. Once you get home and realise what you've just done, you feel a bit of satisfaction. Especially on a 225 :Punk:

I think I'll work up to it perhaps a trip such as that a weekend soon, getting pretty tired with work, learning to ride, kids etc lol. Need a bloody good sleep in!

unstuck

1st January 2013, 20:02

I don't think I've been that far up the north island, I'll put that on my list for one day soon :)
240km, 3 hours, that'd be a big ask for a wee bit lol

We used to ride up there all the time from the shore when a teenager, sometimes we would even run out to bland bay on the gravel, just for a little excitement. Couple of times we did there and back in one day,once with me ringing the tits of an old xl185. But just take your time, and do lots of smaller rides, and you will quickly build in confidence.

bosslady

1st January 2013, 20:04

And thats you averaging 80kph.
Can I ask what speed you reached on this solo effort and what speed you found was comfortable to sustain?

Is it? dunno, just typed it into Google maps and that's what it came up with :)

Speed reached? the limit of course Mr. Officer............. max only 110kmph at about 7000rpm, it red lines at 8500. Constant and comfortable speed was 100kmph, was trying to keep it legal, my bikes not that fast :laugh: and just keep with the flow of traffic. Sometimes 80-90kmph but that was only to keep the same following distance since the cages kept slowing down... speeding up... slowing down... etc etc.

FJRider

1st January 2013, 20:07

I don't think I've been that far up the north island, I'll put that on my list for one day soon :)
240km, 3 hours, that'd be a big ask for a wee bit lol

LESS than a tank of gas each way. Won't even need reserve ... :2thumbsup

FJRider

1st January 2013, 20:13

Speed reached? the limit of course Mr. Officer............. max only 110kmph at about 7000rpm, it red lines at 8500. Constant and comfortable speed was 100kmph, was trying to keep it legal, my bikes not that fast :laugh: and just keep with the flow of traffic. Sometimes 80-90kmph but that was only to keep the same following distance since the cages kept slowing down... speeding up... slowing down... etc etc.

To average 100 km/hr ... you might need more than a GN250. To average (over any real distance) that needs speeds of 120 plus.

To average 80 on such a ride will definitely be ok on your GN.

bosslady

1st January 2013, 20:16

To average 100 km/hr ... you might need more than a GN250. To average (over any real distance) that needs speeds of 120 plus.

To average 80 on such a ride will definitely be ok on your GN.

I don't understand what you mean? pm me?

FJRider

1st January 2013, 20:18

I don't understand what you mean? pm me?

Ok .. shortly ...

GrayWolf

1st January 2013, 20:24

Shit, I obviously ride with the wrong crowd then... :eek5:

Hehehe No Princess, some 'groups' are to small for the 'task in hand', so to speak :2thumbsup

scumdog

1st January 2013, 20:27

GrayWolf

1st January 2013, 20:27

Bosslady, don't listen to too much shiet on here aye, enjoy what you are doing and do it often, who gives a big fat PrincessBandit's backside what anyone else thinks.

fixed it for ya :yes:

bosslady

1st January 2013, 20:36

Wot 'e sez.

IF you're riding anywhere through built-up areas and/or traffic you have to be honkin' along to keep an average of 80kph...

ahhh I get ya now!! *click*

no need for the pm FJ!

FJRider

1st January 2013, 20:40

ahhh I get ya now!! *click*

no need for the pm FJ!

Too late ... DONE ...

FJRider

1st January 2013, 20:46

fixed it for ya :yes:

She's coming YOUR way in the next few days ... a massage has been asked for ...(by you) her choice what hammer she uses ... ;)

caseye

1st January 2013, 20:48

fixed it for ya :yes:

Yer a big Brave wolf aye, she is heading your way tomorrow aye, you knew that didn'tcha?
Farewell oh nice wolfie, been nice knowing ya.
That ol Pb is a cyclonic wind when she gets going.

PrincessBandit

1st January 2013, 21:06

fixed it for ya :yes:

Oi, you could have said "... a royal rat's..." You may now kiss my ring as you bow and grovel in appropriate servitude.

GrayWolf

1st January 2013, 21:10

Oi, you could have said "... a royal rat's..." You may now kiss my ring as you bow and grovel in appropriate servitude.

Nah it's OK girly, I know you need to put on a 'show' for the boy's....now head off to the kitchen, or at this time of night, the bedroom to provide 'Him' with the correct 'entertainment' appropriate to the time of day..... as you were :spanking:

PrincessBandit

1st January 2013, 21:56

Yer a big Brave wolf aye, she is heading your way tomorrow aye, you knew that didn'tcha?
Farewell oh nice wolfie, been nice knowing ya.
That ol Pb is a cyclonic wind when she gets going.
Gee thanks Mark for adding "old" and "windy" to my list of attributes! What a mate!

Nah it's OK girly, I know you need to put on a 'show' for the boy's....now head off to the kitchen, or at this time of night, the bedroom to provide 'Him' with the correct 'entertainment' appropriate to the time of day..... as you were :spanking:
Aaarrrr-oooooooh!!!!

Now let's stop taking this thread off-topic or I might just have to infract us all; then it will be :bash: all round.

So where were we? Ah yes, encouraging bosslady to enjoy her riding, to not push herself too hard too quickly, and be ever alert to other road users - some of whom should not even leave their houses each day let take charge of a vehicle.

FJRider

1st January 2013, 22:14

So where were we? Ah yes, encouraging bosslady to enjoy her riding, to not push herself too hard too quickly, and be ever alert to other road users - some of whom should not even leave their houses each day let take charge of a vehicle.

Is it too late to offer a massage when you're in my area ... (so to speak ;)) ... ??? :innocent:

And an address in welly town will be quivering in fear ... each time he hears the throaty roar of a Burgman and baby bandit at full noise approaching ... :yes:

Jantar

1st January 2013, 22:24

Good on ya. Next it will be up to russell for fish and chips.:2thumbsup

Actually ... not really a bad idea. ;) :woohoo:

I do believe they make good Fish and chips in Russel. So a ride to check them out shall be scheduled for the near future.

FJRider

1st January 2013, 22:27

I do believe they make good Fish and chips in Russel. So a ride to check them out shall be scheduled for the near future.

About March you reckon ..??

Jantar

1st January 2013, 22:28

About March you reckon ..??
Yeah. I think I have an hour or two to spare in mid march.

Deano

1st January 2013, 23:03

Don't lie - I bet you peeked.
Well thats how you find your cock at night isn't it ?

bosslady

2nd January 2013, 07:23

Boys, they sure are funny/strange creatures....

Maha

2nd January 2013, 07:34

I do believe they make good Fish and chips in Russel. So a ride to check them out shall be scheduled for the near future.

At the Duke?...its been a long time since we have been there...Paihia is close enough (Alfrescos) :headbang:
In saying that, we had a F & C's out of a bag down by the river last night with a can of L & P, how Kiwi is that?
Haven't had a feed like that in years.

unstuck

2nd January 2013, 07:37

At the Duke?...its been a long time since we have been there...Paihia is close enough (Alfrescos) :headbang:
In saying that, we had a F & C's out of a bag down by the river last night with a can of L & P, how Kiwi is that?
Haven't had a feed like that in years.

Did ya give some to the ducks? One thing I really miss about warkworth is going to the bakery then sitting down at the river having a good nosh.:niceone:

Maha

2nd January 2013, 07:47

Did ya give some to the ducks? One thing I really miss about warkworth is going to the bakery then sitting down at the river having a good nosh.:niceone:

Hell yeah, they get the very few left overs, they even came running up the sloop, ducks can be very needy:rolleyes:...all chips shops in town last night were very busy, a 15 min wait! unheard of in WW.
Good to see a few bikes in town last night also, nice time to be riding (7pm) spotted some strange smaller cc Kawasaki thing and a 250 Katana which look familiar but the rider was a much larger person than who I thought it was.

bosslady

2nd January 2013, 07:50

mmmmm fish n chups *tummy grumbles* pity it's left over roast for tea! but for lunch....? hmmm

Jantar

2nd January 2013, 07:54

At the Duke?......

Can't remember the name of the place. Last time I was in Russel was 32 years ago so chances are the name of the F&C shop has changed since then. But I may just take a ferry ride on my way north to the start of the Southern Cross.

unstuck

2nd January 2013, 07:54

There used to be a really good fish and chip shop in torbay, good place to head with a feed from there is down rocky isle road and then onto the beach, probably crowded as fuck now though. That shouldnt be to far for ya.:Punk:

unstuck

2nd January 2013, 07:59

The duke of Marlborough is the one on the waterfront, there was another one in the wee shopping center, but last time i was there a couple of years ago it was shit.

frogfeaturesFZR

2nd January 2013, 08:16

unstuck

2nd January 2013, 08:56

You ain't wrong, standing room only.

Bugger aye, suppose winstons cove will be the same too then.

sinfull

2nd January 2013, 09:02

There will be other newbies out there .

I am enjoying reading your posts :)
And she's been around the block, this one !

swtfa

2nd January 2013, 09:39

And she's been around the block, this one !

I doooo love to ride ;)

frogfeaturesFZR

2nd January 2013, 10:55

Bugger aye, suppose winstons cove will be the same too then.

Judging by the cars parked up the top, a few there !

unstuck

2nd January 2013, 10:57

Judging by the cars parked up the top, a few there !

Thats why we moved from there.:devil2:

bosslady

2nd January 2013, 18:07

Just a warning to all kbr's, beware of stalkers on this website... I went for a ride to WARKworth today, whilst sitting on a chair outside the bakery after having a feed and watching a mental seagull harass other seagulls, I was approached by some strangers asking if we (was with FZR250, another newbie) were from Kiwibiker. Yes, we were... turned out these stalkers were Maha and Mom who recognised my gn with it's big L (L is for lovely, not loser FYI) plate perched right on the back. Awfully rude smelly people, invited us back to their abode, I didn't want to be rude (you never know the mental state of some of these internet types) so agreed. THEN they inflicted a beverage, chocolate truffle and great conversation on us. Terrible, just terrible! :laugh: joking of course, was great meeting you both!!

Haha... anyway 185km today... birkenhead to Massey to WARKworth to Massey then got lost and went through Henderson then all the way back to Birkenhead and boy am I tired, good adventure though but a lesson to study maps properly before I go on my wee trips, haha.

unstuck

2nd January 2013, 18:13

You meet the strangest people in Warkworth.:headbang::headbang:

SNF

2nd January 2013, 18:14

Thanks for the great ride, boss! Also great to meet Mom and Maha. Fantastic day! Beware of the killer seagulls, one flew towards my bike when heading home. What is it with birds and this bike?:lol:

unstuck

2nd January 2013, 18:16

Thanks for the great ride, boss! Also great to meet Mom and Maha. Fantastic day! Beware of the killer seagulls, one flew towards my bike when heading home. What is it with birds and this bike?:lol:
A lot of fellas get into bikes to attract birds.:2thumbsup

FJRider

2nd January 2013, 18:18

A lot of fellas get into bikes to attract birds.:2thumbsup

Looks like it's working for him ...

One day he may find something just as keen to see him, but with fewer feathers ... :doh:

SNF

2nd January 2013, 18:33

Looks like it's working for him ...

One day he may find something just as keen to see him, but with fewer feathers ... :doh:

Must say I'm getting pretty sick of the feathered kind lol

Kiwi Graham

2nd January 2013, 19:04

Just a warning to all kbr's, beware of stalkers on this website...I was approached by some strangers asking if we (was with FZR250, another newbie) were from Kiwibiker. Yes, we were... turned out these stalkers were Maha and Mom who recognised my gn with it's big L (L is for lovely, not loser FYI)

Told you there were dodgy weirdos and should stay clear of them ;)

Good on ya Mark & Anne :)

Katman

2nd January 2013, 19:09

bosslady

2nd January 2013, 19:12

I learned everything I know from them.

by everything do you mean your internet etiquette? or your ability to ride? ;)

just joshin ya katman ;)

FJRider

2nd January 2013, 19:14

I learned everything I know from them.

Visit them again ... this time ... LISTEN .... :rolleyes:

FJRider

2nd January 2013, 19:20

by everything do you mean your internet etiquette? or your ability to ride? ;)

The former .... Gremlin is still struggling to teach him ...

Gremlin

2nd January 2013, 23:01

The former .... Gremlin is still struggling to teach him ...
I did nuffink, wot you bringing me into the thread for?

bosslady, I guess it was you I passed (and then you passed me) on the north into the CBD? I was on a black CB900 Hornet with a top box...

GrayWolf

2nd January 2013, 23:24

I did nuffink, wot you bringing me into the thread for?

bosslady, I guess it was you I passed (and then you passed me) on the north into the CBD? I was on a black CB900 Hornet with a top box...

Gremlin, You REALLY need to re-write that post, Overtaken by a Ginny??

Oh hang on, a Nonda rider, as you were :lol:

Gremlin

2nd January 2013, 23:27

Gremlin, You REALLY need to re-write that post, Overtaken by a Ginny??

Oh hang on, a Nonda rider, as you were :lol:
Hey, if she wants to speed through the 70kph section of the Newmarket Viaduct, all power to her (assuming it was her). I know they stick cameras there and I now have an obsession with keeping the licence thing clean, especially during holiday periods.

DMNTD

3rd January 2013, 06:00

I did nuffink, wot you bringing me into the thread for?

bosslady, I guess it was you I passed (and then you passed me) on the north into the CBD? I was on a black CB900 Hornet with a top box...

Did you go a wee bit south too? Came back from Raglan/Tauranga/etc yesterday and was certain I saw your bike

Maha

3rd January 2013, 06:02

Just a warning to all kbr's, beware of stalkers on this website... I went for a ride to Walkworth today, whilst sitting on a chair outside the bakery after having a feed and watching a mental seagull harass other seagulls, I was approached by some strangers asking if we (was with FZR250, another newbie) were from Kiwibiker. Yes, we were... turned out these stalkers were Maha and Mom who recognised my gn with it's big L (L is for lovely, not loser FYI) plate perched right on the back. Awfully rude smelly people, invited us back to their abode, I didn't want to be rude (you never know the mental state of some of these internet types) so agreed. THEN they inflicted a beverage, chocolate truffle and great conversation on us. Terrible, just terrible! :laugh: joking of course, was great meeting you both!!

Haha... anyway 185km today... birkenhead to Massey to walkworth to Massey then got lost and went through Henderson then all the way back to Birkenhead and boy am I tired, good adventure though but a lesson to study maps properly before I go on my wee trips, haha.
Our pleasure, you are doing a great job of getting out there and putting K's behind you, in little over a months time, you may well be ready for that 'longer' trip.

You meet the strangest people in Warkworth.:headbang::headbang:
At least you can spell Warkworth, its more than just a stroll....;)

Thanks for the great ride, boss! Also great to meet Mom and Maha. Fantastic day! Beware of the killer seagulls, one flew towards my bike when heading home. What is it with birds and this bike?:lol:
All good, nice to meet you also, don't know about bird stike but, bees fricken hurt!

Told you there were dodgy weirdos and should stay clear of them ;)

Good on ya Mark & Anne :)
Thanks Graham, we spend at least an hour per day creeping around town to see if don't know some people..iykwim:cool:

I learned everything I know from them.
Still so much more to learn grasshopper :lol:

Visit them again ... this time ... LISTEN .... :rolleyes:
Oh he hears just fine, at a party once, everytime I got close to his face with a marker pen, he would wake up.

bosslady

3rd January 2013, 08:20

SORRY MAHA AND MOM apparently I was so tired I lost my ability to spell proper like. WARKWORTH WARKWORTH WARKWORTH because I certainly didn't WALK there!

bosslady

3rd January 2013, 08:29

bosslady, I guess it was you I passed (and then you passed me) on the north into the CBD? I was on a black CB900 Hornet with a top box...

Hey, if she wants to speed through the 70kph section of the Newmarket Viaduct, all power to her (assuming it was her). I know they stick cameras there and I now have an obsession with keeping the licence thing clean, especially during holiday periods.

When was this? If it was Tuesday (??) yes it was me. And I was fully aware of what I did and fucked off with myself. I panicked a wee bit because I wanted to change lanes so I could slow down without having a car come right up my ass (I wanted to actually pull in behind you) but I freaked out a little cause I didn't know if I could keep my speed, look where I was going, get enough space between you and the car behind you, check my mirrors, turn my head blah blah blah. Anyway I was not impressed or happy with myself either so don't worry, that's why I remember it, I wasn't trying to be a hero and if I get a ticket I deserve it.

Serious-ness aside, how many times am I going to get spotted by KBr's within the space of a week? hahaha, and how was I riding? (crap, I know)

Gremlin, You REALLY need to re-write that post, Overtaken by a Ginny??

Oh hang on, a Nonda rider, as you were :lol:

No hero here...

Did you go a wee bit south too? Came back from Raglan/Tauranga/etc yesterday and was certain I saw your bike

The furthest south I've been on my bike is Manukau, that was on Tuesday. Yesterday the furthest south (?) I went was Henderson..?

SNF

3rd January 2013, 09:16

SORRY MAHA AND MOM apparently I was so tired I lost my ability to spell proper like. WARKWORTH WARKWORTH WARKWORTH because I certainly didn't WALK there!

I nearly did when going 95 around a corner and the keys were blown out of the ignition (the scariest part of the whole ride). Some wanker must have tried to steal the bike in the past, the keys sit loose in the barrel and there's screwdriver marks. Anyway managed to get them off the tank somehow mid corner while yelling SHIT!, Imagine if the got sucked up the intake duct :eek5: It was sitting millimeters away!

Bosslady - you ride very well for just 2 weeks experience! I didn't do badly either I don't think for the my second time out on open roads.

Gremlin

3rd January 2013, 09:44

Did you go a wee bit south too? Came back from Raglan/Tauranga/etc yesterday and was certain I saw your bike
bosslady or I? If you mean yesterday as in 02/01, then definitely not me, but I was down Raglan way the weekend before New Year.

When was this? If it was Tuesday (??) yes it was me. And I was fully aware of what I did and fucked off with myself. I panicked a wee bit because I wanted to change lanes so I could slow down without having a car come right up my ass (I wanted to actually pull in behind you) but I freaked out a little cause I didn't know if I could keep my speed, look where I was going, get enough space between you and the car behind you, check my mirrors, turn my head blah blah blah. Anyway I was not impressed or happy with myself either so don't worry, that's why I remember it, I wasn't trying to be a hero and if I get a ticket I deserve it.
Ah, no worries, that will come with time. Personally, I wouldn't have had any issues with you pulling in front, as there was plenty of space. Unfortunately, there is definitely a lack of consideration for learners on the road, but I try to give them room (cars or bikes).

FJRider

3rd January 2013, 09:52

Oh he hears just fine, at a party once, everytime I got close to his face with a marker pen, he would wake up.

This post is NOTHING without pictures ... :pinch:

bosslady

3rd January 2013, 10:33

Bosslady - you ride very well for just 2 weeks experience! I didn't do badly either I don't think for the my second time out on open roads.

Thanks FZ and yes you did well for your second time on the open road. Get that overheating issue fixed though or it will be a headache for you and ruin your enjoyment of a good ride if you have to keep worrying about it :)

Ah, no worries, that will come with time. Personally, I wouldn't have had any issues with you pulling in front, as there was plenty of space. Unfortunately, there is definitely a lack of consideration for learners on the road, but I try to give them room (cars or bikes).

What was I doing when you passed me? Was I doing anything wrong? I can't remember but please tell me if I was. Was I in the "fast" lane or the middle lane when you passed me?

unstuck

3rd January 2013, 10:52

What was I doing when you passed me? Was I doing anything wrong? I can't remember but please tell me if I was. Was I in the "fast" lane or the middle lane when you passed me?

Well you obviously were not paying enough attention to your surroundings if you do not remember.:lol::whistle:

bosslady

3rd January 2013, 11:01

Well you obviously were not paying enough attention to your surroundings if you do not remember.:lol::whistle:

Very funny ;) It would be unreasonable to expect me to remember what I was doing every single second of every single time I have ridden over the past couple of days, especially when I'm a newbie and especially when I can't even remember what I had for dinner last night (actually I can, a lasagne topper and left over roast). But... you get my point and I'm relatively sure you were being a sarky ass anyways ;)

Smallfishnz

3rd January 2013, 11:30

A continuation of my "So I went out for a ride tonight" thread here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/155297-So-I-went-out-for-a-ride-tonight

Tackled the motorway Sunday just been, the harbour bridge yesterday and had a longish ride today. Been getting out almost any chance I can when its not been raining and/or I haven't had to work, not all of us get time off, slackers! (kidding!!)

Well done, I considered that when I went over the Harbour Bridge the first time on my GN was a great accomplishment, you have also done more k's in the last couple of weeks than I have done in the last month, Good on you.

FJRider

3rd January 2013, 11:30

(actually I can, a lasagne topper and left over roast)

Any left .... ??? :drool:

There are times when the best option to get out of an uncomfortable/unsafe situation ... is to power out of it. Not always easy on a GN I know.

Only the most over enthusiastic revenue gatherers (and speed cameras) would issue a ticket in such situations .... but they have been known to.

bosslady

3rd January 2013, 12:09

Any left .... ??? :drool:

There are times when the best option to get out of an uncomfortable/unsafe situation ... is to power out of it. Not always easy on a GN I know.

Only the most over enthusiastic revenue gatherers (and speed cameras) would issue a ticket in such situations .... but they have been known to.

2 day old roast? :crazy:

FJRider

3rd January 2013, 12:30

2 day old roast? :crazy:

I have a cast iron stomach ... I can even eat my own cooking ... :yes: ;)

Gremlin

3rd January 2013, 13:04

What was I doing when you passed me? Was I doing anything wrong? I can't remember but please tell me if I was. Was I in the "fast" lane or the middle lane when you passed me?
When I passed you, I was in the fast lane, gave you a wave, you were in the middle lane. As we entered the 70kph section I moved into the middle lane (some cars between us), and you passed in the right lane, with a small queue of cars behind you ;)

Definitely best (especially being a learner) to keep an eye on traffic behind you and to let them pass when safe (motorway is ideal as you don't need to be in the fast lane much). While the NZ laws differ, it is best to treat the fast lane as a passing lane, and not to travel in it (goes for any road user of any licence).

bosslady

3rd January 2013, 14:00

When I passed you, I was in the fast lane, gave you a wave, you were in the middle lane. As we entered the 70kph section I moved into the middle lane (some cars between us), and you passed in the right lane, with a small queue of cars behind you ;)

Definitely best (especially being a learner) to keep an eye on traffic behind you and to let them pass when safe (motorway is ideal as you don't need to be in the fast lane much). While the NZ laws differ, it is best to treat the fast lane as a passing lane, and not to travel in it (goes for any road user of any licence).

I do only use the fast lane if I'm passing, except for yesterday when there were no cars behind me for mileeeeeeeeees i.e. the NW mway, very quiet. I'm not one of those pricks that sits in the "fast" lane and holds everyone up (nor do I wish to be, not on purpose anyway). I'm generally very cautious/aware of what's around me in my car and so too with my bike - as best a newbie can be with so many new things to concentrate on.
I'm thinking I probably changed to that lane as the middle lane that I was in was slowing down suddenly and perhaps I "eeked" a little bit and just changed to a faster lane and before I knew it uh oh it's a 70kmph zone, I'm in the fast lane, cars behind me, not quite confident enough to go back to the middle between cars/bike with a gap smaller than I'd have liked, knew there were cars behind me and was too scared to slow down for fear there'd come up by arse (minds out of the gutter boys). From memory I thought I might as well stay in the fast lane cause I couldn't remember if only one lane went to the shore or two and I didn't want to poo my pants changing to the middle then changing back again. I'd be lucky if I crossed that bridge once every few months so quite unfamiliar with that part of the city. Ah well, put it down to a learning experience eh. Oh and thanks for waving, lol And now that I think about it even more and it comes back to me, I remember thinking "that guy must think i'm an asshole/wannabe and that i'm trying to overtake him".

Gremlin

3rd January 2013, 14:04

Ah well, put it down to a learning experience eh.
Exactly. When you started driving you would have been nervous as well, and became more relaxed and comfortable as you gained more experience. Same thing with bikes.

unstuck

3rd January 2013, 16:06

FJRider

3rd January 2013, 16:11

Oh and thanks for waving, lol

Was it the secret KB wave ... ???

bosslady

3rd January 2013, 17:17

See, he remembers.:bleh::bleh:

Lol I would have paid more attention too if I thought it was someone I maybe "knew", anyway he's prob been riding since I was in nappies? I dunno.... making assumptions on ages :laugh:

Was it the secret KB wave ... ???

The finger you mean? no, a normal wave as I recall..

FJRider

3rd January 2013, 17:21

The finger you mean? no, a normal wave as I recall..

Not the finger "wave" no .... obviously not the very secret KB wave then ... :lol:

Perhaps ... when you are a "senior" member ... you "may" be told ... ;)

James Deuce

3rd January 2013, 19:29

We'll need a new waving thread then.

James Deuce

3rd January 2013, 21:22

The wind is more of a problem with light bikes rather than inexperience. So if you were to never progress to a bigger/heavier bike you would always have the same problem with wind. Beware though some very powerful bikes can still get blown around if they are light enough. For years I rode road legal trail bikes and progressed to a CB750 Honda which could handle all but the most powerful side winds which resulted in a far less tiring ride and safer too when I could overtake without fear of being blown off the road.

I've ridden probably upwards of 60 different motorcycles in all sorts of weather and size and weight have never predicated dynamic responses to gale force wind gusts or constant gale force winds. The only thing that moderates a motorcycle's response to wind is the rider, and some of the heavier bikes I've ridden have been MUCH worse in the wind, especially gusting crosswinds than some smaller, lighter bikes.

Factors such as fairing design (or lack of a fairing), handlebar width and steering geometry all have big impacts on a bike's response to wind and assuming that a bigger, heavier bike will be easier to control in high winds will have much the same result as any assumptions made about one's expectations of motorcycles. Simply holding the bars in a death grip can be a death sentence for an uneducated rider in high winds. It doesn't help. It turns your body into a sail which transmits wind force through your arms to the bars, resulting in a series of unpredictable steering inputs, which definitely multiplies the sensation of being moved about by the wind.

Aerodynamic drag is a big factor for motorcycles because despite some people's assertions that motorcycles induce less drag than a car (they don't) motorcycles effectively tow a giant wall of air with them just behind the bike (this is why 120hp will give you 260kph, but you need 200hp to get another 40kph - the effect magnifies in a logarithmic fashion for each kph thereafter). Interrupting this air flow unpredictably can and does have an effect on how a bike responds to crosswinds. I've had faired bikes essentially surf a wall of air while leaned over and end up on the wrong side of the road due to suddenly ineffective steering and yet not react to strong crosswinds while upright, and naked bikes bobble about a bit while leaned over in a gale, but veer across a lane when battered from the side while upright. In one memorable moment I had a 200kg bike start sliding front and rear after being hit by wind shear from a gully above the road on the Rimutakas at the apex of a corner. The only thing that saved me was exiting the shear stream into turbulent air. Luck, not skill.

It's not the bike that determines what happens in response to high winds. It's the mental attitude of the rider to wind and the skills that are gained over time with practice combined.

scumdog

3rd January 2013, 21:29

It's not the bike that determines what happens in response to high winds. It's the mental attitude of the rider to wind and the skills that are gained over time with practice combined.

True.

A couple of things:
I 'let' the bike wobble around a bit as the wind hits it plus I sit on it like I'm a bag of shit (which some may think I am!) so that I'm not rigid, be relaxed, let the wind move you instead of the bike within reason! and don't try to stop the bike moving a bit too.

Sticking out the knee on the upwind side helps two

The End

3rd January 2013, 21:36

bosslady

3rd January 2013, 21:40

interesting reading, I'll have to read it again later, bit hard to take in in one read. :2thumbsup

bosslady

3rd January 2013, 21:52

Bosslady and FZR250, are you two keen for a ride some time tomorrow? Nothing too big, but I'm just itching to get these new tyres scrubbed in :scooter:. I'm only on a 2̶5̶0̶ okay, a 225 so it won't be anything too hardcore.

Thanks but I've got work :violin: gonna ride there to get some miles though

FJRider

3rd January 2013, 22:19

I agree there is more to it than just weight in offering a more stable ride in wind but any bike labelled a tourer or suitable for touring is also heavy so weight must be seen as a positive by manufacturers of touring bikes. This same weight of course has a negative effect on hills and tight bends which would see a beginner get into trouble. As they say everything has its trade off.

Even with the known issues that a heavy touring bike has ... I would rather tour on an FJ1200 than say a GN250. And I am dam sure that the FJ would handle the twistys better in the wind than a GN250 would. The only issue I have had on hills was attempting a U-turn uphill in the rain.
Touring bikes will always be better in most touring situations. Some are even dam good in the twisties ... and could show a clean pair of heels to a (some) sport bike(s).
More to do with the rider than the bike.

Jantar

3rd January 2013, 22:30

.... The only issue I have had on hills was attempting a U-turn uphill in the rain. ....
Knight's Point?

I have toured on bikes of all sizes from 125cc to 1250cc and ranging from street legal MotoX to full dressed tourers. Depending on where you are going some bikes are better than others, but in my experience unfaired bikes are better in cross winds than faired bikes (when comparing like with like).

For real long distance touring I prefer a bike with a large fuel tank, a quiet engine, and one that develops maximum torque at low revs.

FJRider

3rd January 2013, 22:48

Knight's Point?

I have toured on bikes of all sizes from 125cc to 1250cc and ranging from street legal MotoX to full dressed tourers. Depending on where you are going some bikes are better than others, but in my experience unfaired bikes are better in cross winds than faired bikes (when comparing like with like).

For real long distance touring I prefer a bike with a large fuel tank, a quiet engine, and one that develops maximum torque at low revs.

Yep ....

and the ability to cover the ground pretty quickly ... if the situation is required/desired ...

bosslady

4th January 2013, 06:11

... I would rather tour on an FJ1200 than say a GN250. And I am dam sure that the FJ would handle the twistys better in the wind than a GN250 would.

stop hating on the ginny..... :mad:

just joking... lol :P

SNF

4th January 2013, 08:21

Bosslady and FZR250, are you two keen for a ride some time tomorrow? Nothing too big, but I'm just itching to get these new tyres scrubbed in :scooter:. I'm only on a 2̶5̶0̶ okay, a 225 so it won't be anything too hardcore.

Excuse the little thread jack - yeah I'm up for a ride sometime. Would like to ride again with Bosslady as well.

GrayWolf

4th January 2013, 09:12

Even with the known issues that a heavy touring bike has ... I would rather tour on an FJ1200 than say a GN250. And I am dam sure that the FJ would handle the twistys better in the wind than a GN250 would. The only issue I have had on hills was attempting a U-turn uphill in the rain.
Touring bikes will always be better in most touring situations. Some are even dam good in the twisties ... and could show a clean pair of heels to a (some) sport bike(s).
More to do with the rider than the bike.

Knight's Point?

I have toured on bikes of all sizes from 125cc to 1250cc and ranging from street legal MotoX to full dressed tourers. Depending on where you are going some bikes are better than others, but in my experience unfaired bikes are better in cross winds than faired bikes (when comparing like with like).

For real long distance touring I prefer a bike with a large fuel tank, a quiet engine, and one that develops maximum torque at low revs.

Yep ....

and the ability to cover the ground pretty quickly ... if the situation is required/desired ...

Yup I'd have to agree in most, normal riding situations, a sport tourer (more emphasis on tour than some of the current touted sport tourers) is probably the best overall bike to ride, even at its age the old FJ12 is still a formidable distance weapon, and I'd rather have that as a long distance companion than a 'busa or the earlier ZX14's. or even the ZZR1100 (motor wise, not handling ability) TBH. They'll all out perform and out handle the FJ, but that motor STILL has one of the sweetest 'torque zones' you'll find.
The crop of naked's that were in production GS14, XJR13, CB13, etc are all IMO venerable 2nd place to a sport/tourer for ability.
The current MT produces formidable torque, but has shyte range (220km to reserve) and admittedly doesn't have the top end legs of even the FJ, so realistic high cruising would likely be around 130-40, a good 20-30kph less than the FJ's.

FJRider

4th January 2013, 10:36

stop hating on the ginny..... :mad:

just joking... lol :P

It is a good bike. But it wasn't made for long distance touring. Having said that .... it has been done on GN's (Mrs Shrek does quite regularly) Learn what you can from it. This does include what to expect riding in the wind. Side winds are hated by all motorcyclists ... regardless of bike type/model.

The "Oliver syndrome" (please sir, can I have more) is common with many bikers ... especially those just starting out.(but not just restricted to learners) Go with what you have and learn how your bike handles in all conditions. On that basis it should leave you prepared for future bikes ... in future times.

All bike models have their own handling traits in various conditions ... and so with each "new" bike ... starts a new learning phase.

I'm picking ... within 3-6 months of the restricted license being ticked off ... you will give serious consideration to getting a bigger bike. The LAM's rules now gives you plenty of good low cost options. (if you haven't looked already)

bosslady

4th January 2013, 13:54

But it wasn't made for long distance touring.
Why is it not so good for long distance tours?

The "Oliver syndrome" (please sir, can I have more) is common with many bikers ... especially those just starting out.(but not just restricted to learners).
What do you mean? more of what?

I'm picking ... within 3-6 months of the restricted license being ticked off ... you will give serious consideration to getting a bigger bike. The LAM's rules now gives you plenty of good low cost options. (if you haven't looked already)
Hmmm I've tentatively looked, just browsing on trademe. All my bike and gear will be paid off within the next year and I'll have some more cash money saved by the time that time rolls around... always wanted a sports bike but now I'm not so sure. HEAPPPPPPS of time to decide though...

FJRider

4th January 2013, 14:20

Why is it not so good for long distance tours?

They are more subject to weather/road conditions ... due to their weight and limited horsepower. Load gear/luggage on for touring ... more so. That is not to say touring on one is not a load of fun. Just takes a bit longer to get there. But you will get there in the end.

What do you mean? more of what?

More horsepower is usually at the top of the list. More comfort. More powerful lights. More luggage carrying capacity. More room for a passenger. (and THEIR gear) ...

Hmmm I've tentatively looked, just browsing on trademe. All my bike and gear will be paid off within the next year and I'll have some more cash money saved by the time that time rolls around... always wanted a sports bike but now I'm not so sure. HEAPPPPPPS of time to decide though...

Never stop looking ... even if you have no money to buy. That's what bikers do. Look at bikes parked (don't be afraid to ask the owner questions, or ask on this site) ... or as they pass you (in a car or on the bike) and see what looks/sounds good. And even better .. what would suit YOU.

Heaps of time for sure. That is what the learner stage is good for. Don't be afraid to chuck a leg over other bikes ... even just a sit on ... (with the owners permission first) but a short ride can tell you a lot.

"Test sit" a few bikes in motorcycle showrooms ... see what feels good for you.

The End

4th January 2013, 14:24

I read this and cringed at the thought of a dropped litre bike

Don't be afraid to chuck a leg over other bikes ... even just a sit on ...

But then I saw this

(with the owners permission first)

Who says KB doesn't give out good advice!?

The End

4th January 2013, 14:32

FJRider

4th January 2013, 14:36

I read this and cringed at the thought of a dropped litre bike

It has/does happen. But it is better to try bikes you intend/thinking of getting. (and can handle) Even then ... accidents do happen. Permission first ... and BE CAREFUL.

scumdog

4th January 2013, 16:40

More horsepower is usually at the top of the list. More comfort. More powerful lights. More luggage carrying capacity. More room for a passenger. (and THEIR gear) ...

.

I don't have much of the first (Got 65 raw horsepower!) but it is comfortable carries a heap of gear when needed and can go from Nelson to Riviera of the South in one hit without me feeling knackered.

Adequate handling, ground-clearnace and brakes it has, enough for me:yes:

FJRider

4th January 2013, 18:40

I don't have much of the first (Got 65 raw horsepower!) but it is comfortable carries a heap of gear when needed and can go from Nelson to Riviera of the South in one hit without me feeling knackered.

Adequate handling, ground-clearnace and brakes it has, enough for me:yes:

There are a select group ... that are quite happy with the bike(s) they own. Or own a selection of bikes/vehicles ... should a change of urge occur.

unstuck

4th January 2013, 18:56

I really like my VF. It just feels comfortable to me. Thats why I keep it. And it is 30 this year.:yes:

bosslady

4th January 2013, 21:00

Not sure if this has been posted, but if you have the time, definitely give this a watch. There is something to learn from it for sure, even though it is styled around supersport bikes/track riding, the principles in it are important.

Twist of the Wrist II:

http://www.veoh.com/watch/v20959402FsQ2jz6A?h1=A+Twist+of+the+Wrist+2

ta for the link I'll watch it sometime this weekend.

On other matters, had a ride tonight, second time I've ridden at night now but I'm of course aided by an abundance of street lights! Was good, went out with my flatty who just got a motard had a hoon around Albany. Anyway I'd been wondering what this sound was on my bike, especially yesterday and today... turns out the chain was sagging so much that it was rubbing on my centre stand! oops... fixed before my ride out tonight...

bosslady

6th January 2013, 14:21

Trip out to supercheap auto to pick up some degreaser and chain lube so I can clean my chain today. Get there, get what I need, hop on bike, go to get on main road, stall not once, but twice. Wtf? I barely ever stall anymore? but whatever finally set off, decided to go to cycletreads see what they had in the way of back protectors to fit inside my jacket. On the way there, stop at set of lights, go to take off STALL, by this time im feeling like an effing muppet and wondering whats wrong with me today? Anyway got to cycletreads, only insert back protector they had was an RST contour plus back protector, $40, was gonna get it but decided to do some more research first...

Get out of cycletreads ok, great. Decide to go to my local super and head up the top of archers(?) road, steep hill, slow towards the top but for some reason run out of steam when I'm not quite there, change to first though and get up to the top with the stop sign, all good. On the way to the super, stop at the intersection of onewa and glenfield road for a red light, I'm at the front. Green, go to take off, in first of course, STALL. Fark ok, turn on, let clutch out, bit of throttle at the same time, no different to any other time i do it, STALL, try again, STALL, now the cars are beeping. Try one more time and off she goes, phew! By this time my confidence is getting a right good knocking and I'm feeling like a dunce and wondering why all of a sudden my progress has disappeared! Pull into the super carpark, have a look at my bike, don't see anything untoward so go and do my shopping.

Back on, I've had enough, feel frustrated and tired, going home. It's at this point on my way home going down small hill I start noticing small jerking in my bike, small enough you could almost miss it but enough for me to notice now I've been on it for awhile. This feels like something that's happened to me before... Pull into the gas station 100m up the road, sure enough she's almost empty, pretty much almost to reserve, which I hadn't turned on cause I didn't realise the problem was fuel. Topped her up and I'm off on my merry way.

Lessons learnt;

1. Trust my instincts, if something doesn't feel quite right, it probably isn't
2. I shouldn't have blamed my riding skills (or lack thereof) and knocked my confidence which in turn distracted me, I should've followed point 1!
3. Don't ride when you're tired, even just a little bit but especially if you're a newbie. If I wasn't so tired I think I would've thought it through better, pulled over as soon as something didn't feel right and had I THOUGHT about it I probably would have picked up what the problem was and had been able to fix it straight away.

I've pushed myself too much lately, going to have a rest and use the cage today and tomorrow and most importantly make sure I rest up and get to bed at a decent hour!

FJRider

6th January 2013, 14:34

Lessons learnt;

1. Trust my instincts, if something doesn't feel quite right, it probably isn't
2. I shouldn't have blamed my riding skills (or lack thereof) and knocked my confidence which in turn distracted me, I should've followed point 1!
3. Don't ride when you're tired, even just a little bit but especially if you're a newbie. If I wasn't so tired I think I would've thought it through better, pulled over as soon as something didn't feel right and had I THOUGHT about it I probably would have picked up what the problem was and had been able to fix it straight away.

Fuel issues when in an inner city commute are often difficult to pick. You know most of the warning signs now ... and I doubt if you will forget them the next time.

Lessons are only learned if you remember ...

Rest up ... and talk your flattie into help fitting that pack rack.

unstuck

6th January 2013, 15:13

Dont stress the small stuff, its all small stuff. :yes:

bosslady

6th January 2013, 17:45

definitely is, but stressful when you're a newbie :)

FJRider

6th January 2013, 18:26

definitely is, but stressful when you're a newbie :)

Any bikers greatest fear ... is the fire going out.

Stress levels go through the roof when that happens ... anywhere ... :pinch:

bosslady

7th January 2013, 21:51

Any excuse to get on the bike as usual, needed a new L plate to fit to my pack rack, trip to the warewhare was in order. Good Lord was it windy out on the motorway! onewa to oteha valley rd so not too far but I darn near got blown out of my lane, twice! scary, but braved it and getting more experience under the belt. Lost the L plate that I ripped off my sissy somewhere, when i got on the mway i guess and the stupid warehouse didn't have the rigid L plate that I wanted, grr, just some shit that sticks to windscreens. Bike works now after the hiccup with the bolt, yippy for me

FJRider

7th January 2013, 21:54

bosslady

7th January 2013, 22:03

Paper Plus have good quality ones at a reasonable price.

the aa is around the corner from work maybe I can try them, no paper plus nearby I don't think

FJRider

7th January 2013, 22:10

the aa is around the corner from work maybe I can try them, no paper plus nearby I don't think

Supermarkets often have them ... Supercheap should have them ... (or the AA :innocent:)

Maha

8th January 2013, 06:03

I got one here, I have no idea why I have kept it, never been used.

bosslady

8th January 2013, 10:03

I got one here, I have no idea why I have kept it, never been used.

Oh yeah? Would be great if I could grab it if you wouldn't mind, is it a rigid one? :)

Maha

8th January 2013, 10:07

Oh yeah? Would be great if I could grab it if you wouldn't mind, is it a rigid one? :)

Indeed it is...I will be down your way later today, picking Anne up from work at Oteha @ 5:15pm..want me to bring it down?
We are heading for Takapuna.

bosslady

8th January 2013, 10:19

Indeed it is...I will be down your way later today, picking Anne up from work at Oteha @ 5:15pm..want me to bring it down?
We are heading for Takapuna.

That would be surperb thank you! I will PM you shortly :)

GrayWolf

8th January 2013, 10:53

Oh yeah? Would be great if I could grab it if you wouldn't mind, is it a rigid one? :)

Ok I think Maha deserves a green rep from you, not for the L plate... but for NOT making a come back over you wanting to grab his 'rigid one'??? :whistle::whistle:

somebody HAD to say it :D

bosslady

8th January 2013, 10:57

Ok I think Maha deserves a green rep from you, not for the L plate... but for NOT making a come back over you wanting to grab his 'rigid one'??? :whistle::whistle:

somebody HAD to say it :D

Filthy, just filthy ;)

Maha

8th January 2013, 11:19

bosslady

8th January 2013, 11:51

To be honest, I did have something along the lines of 'rigid works best' typed in, but thought better of it...;)

See... this is a Gentleman :yes:

FJRider

8th January 2013, 13:02

To be honest, I did have something along the lines of 'rigid works best' typed in, but thought better of it...;)

In the good ole days ... most of the people just liked them stiff ... ;)

GrayWolf

8th January 2013, 13:08

See... this is a Gentleman :yes:

Excuse Me! So am I

I take me weight on me elbows ;):yes::yes:

bosslady

9th January 2013, 20:11

Thanks again Maha for the plate.

Do y'all think this is ok?

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/album.php?albumid=4528&attachmentid=275982

FJRider

9th January 2013, 20:37

Thanks again Maha for the plate.

Do y'all think this is ok?

If it works .. it's OK. Does look good. Have you booked your restricted test yet .. ???

jafar

9th January 2013, 20:39

Thanks again Maha for the plate.

Do y'all think this is ok?

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/album.php?albumid=4528&attachmentid=275982

It is only held on by one screw, one screw is never enough !!:shutup: Make sure the nuts are tight or it will be:bye: to your new ridged friend :Oops:

FJRider

9th January 2013, 20:43

It is only held on by one screw, one screw is never enough !!:shutup: Make sure the nuts are tight or it will be:bye: to your new ridged friend :Oops:

So you need two nuts to keep the stiff one .....??? :innocent:

bosslady

9th January 2013, 20:48

If it works .. it's OK. Does look good. Have you booked your restricted test yet .. ???
Restricted? now, now lest not get ahead of ourselves, not possible till end of May!

It is only held on by one screw, one screw is never enough !!:shutup: Make sure the nuts are tight or it will be:bye: to your new ridged friend :Oops:

Hmm yes only one but done up tight.

oh wait.. I get it... screw... well you ain't wrong I guess

jafar

9th January 2013, 20:48

So you need two nuts to keep the stiff one .....??? :innocent:

one will do, two's a luxury :innocent:

FJRider

9th January 2013, 20:56

Restricted? now, now lest not get ahead of ourselves, not possible till end of May!

So ring and book for the end of may .... while bookings for the date you want is STILL available.

Think of the booking as an incentive to learn ALL you need too ... before then.

bosslady

9th January 2013, 21:23

So ring and book for the end of may .... while bookings for the date you want is STILL available.

Think of the booking as an incentive to learn ALL you need too ... before then.

Hmmm good point

The End

9th January 2013, 22:11

Hmmm good point

Do it! I put off getting my full license for around a year, simply because I knew if I booked it, I'd have to wait a long time for a free date that would suit. Book it in now, get a day that works, and count down the days to victory!

unstuck

10th January 2013, 05:15

Yeah, just do it. I have been putting it off for 30+ yrs.:Punk::Punk:

bosslady

10th January 2013, 06:15

Ahhh I suppose I could get to it in the next couple of weeks, booking it in I mean. I only got my full licence I think maybe 2 1/2 - 3 years ago since I was a late "bloomer" but I got my restricted as soon as I could, so too with my full. Just *feels* better having my full, so don't think I'll put it off but no harm in booking it far in advance and I'll have to do it... cause I hate wasting money, hah!

FJRider

10th January 2013, 06:19

There are a few threads about the current restricted test. Troll through a few and see what you need to know, and practice a few routes maybe.

bosslady

10th January 2013, 06:30

There are a few threads about the current restricted test. Troll through a few and see what you need to know, and practice a few routes maybe.

Good idea :)

nakedsv

10th January 2013, 08:52

+1 on booking early, I rang to see what dates were avaliable for my full and by the time I got in to book and pay I had to wait another two weeks. Ridiculously easy test too.:2thumbsup

caseye

10th January 2013, 18:45

5 year maximum on a learners or restricted from (in two years time) soon onwards.
Bout bloody time too.

Katman

10th January 2013, 19:07

definitely is, but stressful when you're a newbie :)

Reset your trip meter each time you gas up and use it as an indication of when you're likely to run over onto reserve.

FJRider

10th January 2013, 19:22

Reset your trip meter each time you gas up and use it as an indication of when you're likely to run over onto reserve.

Good advice.

A note book to keep a record of km's done/fuel (in litres not $$) used. Gives you a better idea how far you CAN go on a tank full ...

bosslady

10th January 2013, 19:35

Reset your trip meter each time you gas up and use it as an indication of when you're likely to run over onto reserve.

Yea FJ told me awhile ago to do that too. Problem is I keep effing forgetting. I just filled up before though so will go reset it shortly!

Good advice.

A note book to keep a record of km's done/fuel (in litres not $$) used. Gives you a better idea how far you CAN go on a tank full ...

:)

Subike

10th January 2013, 21:05

Yea FJ told me awhile ago to do that too. Problem is I keep effing forgetting. I just filled up before though so will go reset it shortly! :)

it took me two weeks to develop the habit of resetting the trip meter, every time I stop for fuel, regardless if even it is a small top up before doing a long ride, I reset the meter, now I dont even have to think about it it, has become so much a part of my refueling routine, that if i do forget, I stop and reset as soon as I notice. I know that when Im approaching the 190k mark, its time to start thinkng about fuel, 200k and on goes the reserve , 230k, start pushing.
The other habit have got into, after low siding the bike due to a soft tire, is checking the front tire at ever fuel stop if the station has the right fitting on the pump. This I think has been a major reason I have so far got 14000k out of the factory tires, and they could just reach the 1st WOF yet,

scumdog

10th January 2013, 21:16

Reset your trip meter each time you gas up and use it as an indication of when you're likely to run over onto reserve.

Yep, that's what C.B (normajeane on KB) does with her Sporty, anything past 180km and she starts looking for a gas station.

bosslady

10th January 2013, 21:46

she's been reset, only done a few km since last full. To be safe I might top up again after work and reset trip meter just to be more accurate I guess.

The End

10th January 2013, 23:22

she's been reset, only done a few km since last full. To be safe I might top up again after work and reset trip meter just to be more accurate I guess.

Use this. Helps keep track of things much easier than pen/paper imo.

http://www.fuelly.com/

Maha

11th January 2013, 07:56

she's been reset, only done a few km since last full. To be safe I might top up again after work and reset trip meter just to be more accurate I guess.

Get your flat mate to look at the clutch lever, there seems to be alot of travel there and could be part of the (at times) stalling problem. Just a thought?
A small and easy adjustment can make all the difference.

bosslady

11th January 2013, 09:45

Get your flat mate to look at the clutch lever, there seems to be alot of travel there and could be part of the (at times) stalling problem. Just a thought?
A small and easy adjustment can make all the difference.

You mean when you sat on my bike? Will do, I'll see what his temperament is like tonight (he's prepping his bike for HD tomorrow) and if he can help me. Pretty sure it's just me being a TARD, but maybe that might help - thanks for the tip!

Grant`

11th January 2013, 11:42

Bring on HD's tomorrow can't wait to get out on my bike again but thats a good ride for you its quite neat coming along and having a look at the track and the bikes if you haven't been before.

bosslady

11th January 2013, 12:43

Bring on HD's tomorrow can't wait to get out on my bike again but thats a good ride for you its quite neat coming along and having a look at the track and the bikes if you haven't been before.

Have been to Manfield, Taupo and Hampton Downs each a few times, so been to quite a few track days (pit bitch for the flatmate) so know the general rigmarole. Just riding there (HD) as an excuse to ride SOMEWHERE then be pit bitch for the day...

Maha

11th January 2013, 14:00

You mean when you sat on my bike? Will do, I'll see what his temperament is like tonight (he's prepping his bike for HD tomorrow) and if he can help me. Pretty sure it's just me being a TARD, but maybe that might help - thanks for the tip!

No it needs adjusting, it should grab alot earlier than it does...yes, when I sat on it and put in gear, I thought I had not, the travel was that great.
Its what you get used to I know, but once its corrected, it will only take a couple uses and you'll be away.

Bring on HD's tomorrow can't wait to get out on my bike again but thats a good ride for you its quite neat coming along and having a look at the track and the bikes if you haven't been before.

Yeah surely someone there will see to it?... a two minute fix.

bosslady

11th January 2013, 15:12

No it needs adjusting, it should grab alot earlier than it does...yes, when I sat on it and put in gear, I thought I had not, the travel was that great.
Its what you get used to I know, but once its corrected, it will only take a couple uses and you'll be away.

Yeah surely someone there will see to it?... a two minute fix.

Cool, I'll get it done somehow.

Mom

11th January 2013, 16:02

Cool, I'll get it done somehow.

Come for a ride norf and I will adjust it for you it tis that easy mate. I reckon that will solve your stalling issues too.

bosslady

11th January 2013, 16:41

Come for a ride norf and I will adjust it for you it tis that easy mate. I reckon that will solve your stalling issues too.

I think it's mostly me being nervous and panicking a wee bit, but you could be right, you'd know better than me. I stalled once today, let the clutch out too quick I think, at the time I was worried I wouldn't be able to turn right into a street before the next car coming towards me.... But whilst I'm making that kind of boo boo, I am still way quicker than when I first started, used to sit at an intersection for god knows how long before I'd pull out for fear some car 100m away would all of a sudden be right next to me hahaha

Anyway, flatty said he'd help me. If not, I'll give ya a buzz thanks Mom, did you get my text btw?

Other thing pissing me off lately is my f*cking lazy ass foot which thinks half a click up is godamn 2nd gear, it ain't!! and boy do I get a surprise when that happens, sure the cars behind do too... ffs

Subike

11th January 2013, 16:51

Other thing pissing me off lately is my f*cking lazy ass foot which thinks half a click up is godamn 2nd gear, it ain't!! and boy do I get a surprise when that happens, sure the cars behind do too... ffs

now that you are familiar with your gears, try loading the gears before you change up .
Experiment with this.
once you are rolling in 2nd gear, and accelerating nicely, lift the gear lever with you toe till you feel resistance of movement.
keep that small amount of pressure on the lever with your toe, then without touching the clutch lever, back off the accelerator a little. Just a little bit
try that and see what happens.
You should get a nice smooth change up into 3rd gear with no clutch and the bike not jumping., same can be done for 4th and 5th,
But stick with the clutch between 1st and 2nd, but do have that upward pressure of your toe against the gear lever before you pull the clutch lever in.
This will reduce the amount of false gear changes dramatically.

scumdog

11th January 2013, 16:54

Other thing pissing me off lately is my f*cking lazy ass foot which thinks half a click up is godamn 2nd gear, it ain't!! and boy do I get a surprise when that happens, sure the cars behind do too... ffs

Been riding for years (no wonder I'm tired!) and still do that once in a blue moon, mainly when tired and distracted.

Not the best of times to be riding I must say.:no:

bosslady

11th January 2013, 17:06

now that you are familiar with your gears, try loading the gears before you change up .
Experiment with this.
once you are rolling in 2nd gear, and accelerating nicely, lift the gear lever with you toe till you feel resistance of movement.
keep that small amount of pressure on the lever with your toe, then without touching the clutch lever, back off the accelerator a little. Just a little bit
try that and see what happens.
You should get a nice smooth change up into 3rd gear with no clutch and the bike not jumping., same can be done for 4th and 5th,
But stick with the clutch between 1st and 2nd, but do have that upward pressure of your toe against the gear lever before you pull the clutch lever in.
This will reduce the amount of false gear changes dramatically.

hmmm this will take much thinking... hmmm

Been riding for years (no wonder I'm tired!) and still do that once in a blue moon, mainly when tired and distracted.

Not the best of times to be riding I must say.:no:

not tired, just useless lol

Flatmate said clutch is adjusted to within it's spec at the moment but that there's pretty much no adjustment left anyway. Service manual says 4mm

bosslady

12th January 2013, 07:35

Fuck fuck fuck if it isn't bad enough I burntmy leg on the exhaust the other day, I have to go and fucking burn a hole in my god damn bike pants this morn! Fuck

FJRider

12th January 2013, 07:45

Fuck fuck fuck if it isn't bad enough I burntmy leg on the exhaust the other day, I have to go and fucking burn a hole in my god damn bike pants this morn! Fuck

Visit a sewing shop type place and buy a funky/cute patch and sew (glue underneath) it over the burn. Will look tidier and wont affect waterproofing much worth worrying about.

Katman

12th January 2013, 08:24

This will reduce the amount of false gear changes dramatically.

And is also likely to eventually lead to the problem of the bike jumping out of gear.

Maha

12th January 2013, 09:24

Fuck fuck fuck if it isn't bad enough I burntmy leg on the exhaust the other day, I have to go and fucking burn a hole in my god damn bike pants this morn! Fuck

In Rarotonga, they call that a ''Tourist Tattoo''....:shifty:

Not a laughing matter I know, but the pants can be repaired, pain in the arse and all you can do really is, chalk it up.

bosslady

12th January 2013, 12:54

how did this happen.... tyre shaped bit of my L plate missing... fark... guess rigid ain't always best?
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bosslady

12th January 2013, 12:55

In Rarotonga, they call that a ''Tourist Tattoo''....:shifty:

Not a laughing matter I know, but the pants can be repaired, pain in the arse and all you can do really is, chalk it up.

True true you're quite right Mark

nadroj

12th January 2013, 13:08

Get one of those floppy L plates & mount it in the same position. They hang down when you are still but the airflow from the rear tyre when you are riding sucks them up the inside of the back mudguard. They flop back down when you stop so quite legal.

FJRider

12th January 2013, 13:15

The back tyre is close enough to the L plate to create a suction effect on the plate. Perhaps bolt the L plate on the outside of the number plate. The bottom lip of the number plate will make the L plat stick out more ... and wont bend back far enough in to make contact again.

bosslady

12th January 2013, 15:22

I've got a silicone one. Might try that.... ahhh the joys lol

scumdog

12th January 2013, 15:30

bosslady

12th January 2013, 15:34

I wonder if I should just leave it...

FJRider

12th January 2013, 15:46

I wonder if I should just leave it...

Mark the top edge of the plate with a felt marker pen ... if the hole gets bigger remount it.

bosslady

12th January 2013, 16:01

Mark the top edge of the plate with a felt marker pen ... if the hole gets bigger remount it.

good idea :)

FJRider

12th January 2013, 16:08

good idea :)

The hole would be worn out by friction by the tyre. Melting the plastic L plate. The tyre will be spitting tiny bits of hot plastic about under the seat/bike. You may even see some stuck to the inside of the mudguard. Or in that area of the bike.

Might pay to have a peek there.

bosslady

12th January 2013, 16:17

The hole would be worn out by friction by the tyre. Melting the plastic L plate. The tyre will be spitting tiny bits of hot plastic about under the seat/bike. You may even see some stuck to the inside of the mudguard. Or in that area of the bike.

Might pay to have a peek there.

nah there isn't any, only what looks to be rubber on the L plate...

Grashopper

12th January 2013, 17:05

lol,:laugh: Love your L-Plate. As long as it is not a hazard I would leave it.

unstuck

12th January 2013, 17:42

how did this happen.... tyre shaped bit of my L plate missing... fark... guess rigid ain't always best?

Nothing a DIET wouldnt fix.:whistle::bleh:

bosslady

12th January 2013, 18:37

Nothing a DIET wouldnt fix.:whistle::bleh:

I don't get it :(

FJRider

12th January 2013, 18:48

I don't get it :(

He is suggesting extra weight is being carried.

You think about ... where you think HE thinks that weight is (might be) being carried.

bosslady

12th January 2013, 18:52

He is suggesting extra weight is being carried.

You think about ... where you think HE thinks that weight is (might be) being carried.

Oh like I've got a bit of junk in my trunk? I could lose about 7 kilo to make me happy! but I dunno if my 65kg did that, maybe though!

FJRider

12th January 2013, 18:56

Oh like I've got a bit of junk in my trunk? I could lose about 7 kilo to make me happy! but I dunno if my 65kg did that, maybe though!

Nahhhh ... that's skinny stuff ... no wonder the GN hums along. (little wind resistance)

bosslady

12th January 2013, 19:09

Nahhhh ... that's skinny stuff ... no wonder the GN hums along. (little wind resistance)

depends how tall I am ;)

FJRider

12th January 2013, 19:13

depends how tall I am ;)

I've seen your pic of you on the bike. Not tall ... :msn-wink:

bosslady

12th January 2013, 19:21

I've seen your pic of you on the bike. Not tall ... :msn-wink:

5ft 8, tall enough!

FJRider

12th January 2013, 19:34

5ft 8, tall enough!

Me too actually (1.8 m) ... I've never felt tall. My feet still reach the ground ... which is a plus.

bosslady

12th January 2013, 19:40

Me too actually (1.8 m) ... I've never felt tall. My feet still reach the ground ... which is a plus.

1.8m is 5ft 9 silly... and actually I lie... Google tells me I'm more like 5ft 7 and maybe a half? lol

FJRider

12th January 2013, 19:42

1.8m is 5ft 9 silly...

Fuck I AM tall ... but I'll never look down on you ... (promise)

unstuck

12th January 2013, 19:45

Well if its not a fat ass :devil2: causing it, you have been riding in reverse, get that seen to.:bleh:

GrayWolf

12th January 2013, 21:45

Oh like I've got a bit of junk in my trunk? I could lose about 7 kilo to make me happy! but I dunno if my 65kg did that, maybe though!

Depends if its your 'caboose' thats packing 65kilo :rolleyes::bleh::bleh:

bosslady

12th January 2013, 22:01

Well if its not a fat ass :devil2: causing it, you have been riding in reverse, get that seen to.:bleh:

I'm just THAT skilled...

Depends if its your 'caboose' thats packing 65kilo :rolleyes::bleh::bleh:

well...

unstuck

13th January 2013, 05:02

bosslady

14th January 2013, 09:33

Don't open the pictures if you're squeamish, fortunately (for you) the pictures look way better than "real life" which looks seriously gross. One pic is of when I did it, second one was what it looked like cause I didn't take care of it... Actually the sight of my pasty leg is torture enough...

Wednesday last week I got home, took off my (biking) pants, then a couple minutes later thought I'd go look at something on my bike (think it was the k's). Looked at that and thought why does my leg feel hot? Look down, there's a red mark and my skin basically melted off my leg. You guessed it, touched the exhaust. Not thinking, I kind of stood there for a minute, looking at/inspecting it then thought DUH run it under cold water, stupid. Did that, (but probably not for as long as I should have) for about 10 minutes. But it still hurt like a b*tch and I wanted to watch tv so I put some ice in a ziplock bag and put it against the burn whilst I watched television... An hour of ice, it still hurt but figured I had to tough it out and couldn't hold ice to it forever... Really just looked pink, bit of melted skin, but not THAT bad. Didn't go to the a&e, too lazy.

Roll on yesterday and it's pussing, fresh air doesn't help, dressings don't help, rip off a dressing to go have a shower last night and it ripped what little skin had formed over the burn, right off, blood everywhere, freakin gross. My leg still hurts like hell and the burn looks all kind of messed up.

Now I have to go to get it re-dressed every day at the doctors because it's infected and go on antibiotics and anti-inflamatories (which will also help for another injury I had the following day).

Lesson to newbies (and oldies?) don't be a freaking lazy dumb ass like me. Run it under COLD water straight away for I believe, thirty minutes, and go to the a&e, it's an accident, it's free! It actually didn't look THAT bad initially, but every day it got worse and now it hurts even while I'm standing still!

The End

14th January 2013, 10:37

Battle scars! :first:

bosslady

14th January 2013, 10:52

Battle scars! :first:

Yes, bosslady vs. the might gn250! gn250 1, bosslady 0!

Gremlin

14th January 2013, 18:03

Ah, yes... clearly you didn't read my blogs, where I ended up with a 2nd degree burn during an adventure ride. Didn't go to A&E for a couple of days, until it felt worse, and yes, infected etc. Had I been a day later, I would have been carted off to hospital, and even then I was 50-50, depending on how the IVs worked out.

Ended up off my feet for 2 weeks at home, with nurse visits every couple of days to treat the burn...

Moral of lesson: Go to A&E and get it checked out!

bosslady

14th January 2013, 18:07