View Full Version : Can anyone please help? My bike's broken!
bosslady
6th January 2013, 20:23
Beyond gutted at the moment... I bought a pack rack on trademe today for a fiddy, got flatmate to help me take the aftermarket sissy that was on there off. I don't know what they did when they put it on, perhaps didn't thread it properly, I have no idea, but when we went to loosen it to remove the sissy the bloody thing snapped! the bolt I mean. Looks like it's welded onto the chassis? I almost cried... in fact I might still! I presume this can be fixed (otherwise yes, tears will flow) but who can/will do it in Auckland? and good lord, how much will it cost? :(
There's some pics in my album here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/album.php?albumid=4528
Please help!! all helpful comments and positivity welcomed and appreciated!
Ocean1
6th January 2013, 20:31
Course it's fixable. Can't say which ones locally but most small engineering shops would fix it, just drill out the broken bit and re-tap it.
PS: the thumbnails in your link are too small to see, and the pics are too big. And I don't know how to fix that shit.
bosslady
6th January 2013, 20:33
Course it's fixable. Can't say which ones locally but most small engineering shops would fix it, just drill out the broken bit and re-tap it.
My flatmate said if he has the time tomorrow he'll go ask some engineering place what they can do. You should have seen the look on my face when it happened...
unstuck
6th January 2013, 20:35
How is that stud held there? Is it screwed into the frame? Shouldnt cost bugger all to fix either way,ya rough buggers.:angry2:
FJRider
6th January 2013, 20:36
Beyond gutted at the moment... I bought a pack rack on trademe today for a fiddy, got flatmate to help me take the aftermarket sissy that was on there off. I don't know what they did when they put it on, perhaps didn't thread it properly, I have no idea, but when we went to loosen it to remove the sissy the bloody thing snapped! the bolt I mean. Looks like it's welded onto the chassis? I almost cried... in fact I might still! I presume this can be fixed (otherwise yes, tears will flow) but who can/will do it in Auckland? and good lord, how much will it cost? :(
There's some pics in my album here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/album.php?albumid=4528
Please help!! all helpful comments and positivity welcomed and appreciated!
It looks like it was a ham-fisted fitting of the sissy bar alright. A bit of loc-tite would have prevented that.
However ... Was it on one side only or both sides .. ??? And as the rear two nuts needed to be removed as opposed to the front ones (on the suspension/area) needed only loosened. What I mean is .. ??? front or rear bolt is broken .. ??
bosslady
6th January 2013, 20:39
How is that stud held there? Is it screwed into the frame? Shouldnt cost bugger all to fix either way,ya rough buggers.:angry2:
it's like it's welded in there or something, as if it's part of the frame? all the others loosened up no problem... unfortunately the suspension also goes onto this bolt...
bosslady
6th January 2013, 20:41
It looks like it was a ham-fisted fitting of the sissy bar alright. A bit of loc-tite would have prevented that.
However ... Was it on one side only or both sides .. ??? And as the rear two nuts needed to be removed as opposed to the front ones (on the suspension/area) needed only loosened. What I mean is .. ??? front or rear bolt is broken .. ??
One side only. The front ones needed only to be loosened to remove the sissy and the back ones needed to be removed. We were only trying to loosen that front one, snapped anyhoo.
Flip
6th January 2013, 20:55
It's easy to fix, just drill it out and tap in a stud.
Should be about an 1-2 hours work. If you were down here I would do it for you, or show you how to do it.
Any local wee engineering shops, or even the local dealer should be able to do it for you.
bosslady
6th January 2013, 21:05
More pics added. Is a relief to know it's fixable and not a biggy. Here's hoping I can get it fixed within the next few days, dunno how I'll get it to the fix-it people though, could always use the flatties van though he'd not be impressed and fair enough...
scumdog
6th January 2013, 21:12
How did they break THAT???:crazy:
Did somebody try turning it the wrong way??
bosslady
6th January 2013, 21:15
How did they break THAT???:crazy:
Did somebody try turning it the wrong way??
Nup, was stiff as hell, put a bit of weight on it to get it to turn and snap it did...
FJRider
6th January 2013, 21:19
Nup, was stiff as hell, put a bit of weight on it to get it to turn and snap it did...
Looking at the pic of the rear suspension on the other side ... and at the broken one ... it looks like on nut holds on the suspension and another holds on the seat strap. Is that correct .. ???
bosslady
6th January 2013, 21:22
Looking at the pic of the rear suspension on the other side ... and at the broken one ... it looks like on nut holds on the suspension and another holds on the seat strap. Is that correct .. ???
no they're one in the same
FJRider
6th January 2013, 21:32
More pics added. Is a relief to know it's fixable and not a biggy. Here's hoping I can get it fixed within the next few days, dunno how I'll get it to the fix-it people though, could always use the flatties van though he'd not be impressed and fair enough...
How much thread is showing with the suspension in it's usual position .. ??
bosslady
6th January 2013, 21:37
How much thread is showing with the suspension in it's usual position .. ??
None really, there's heaps of washers on it. Another pic of the other side added, is a little loosened though.
Flip
6th January 2013, 21:41
I would put it back together and try tying it in place with cable ties just to get youto the shop.
FJRider
6th January 2013, 21:44
None really, there's heaps of washers on it. Another pic of the other side added, is a little loosened though.
If you didn't put the seat strap on (put all the other seat attachments on though) could a nut be started on that thread ... just enough to hold the suspension in place (temporarily) for a careful ride to an engineer .. ???
bosslady
6th January 2013, 21:51
I would put it back together and try tying it in place with cable ties just to get youto the shop.
If you didn't put the seat strap on (put all the other seat attachments on though) could a nut be started on that thread ... just enough to hold the suspension in place (temporarily) for a careful ride to an engineer .. ???
Quite possible, would have to find a nut though and only safe for slow speeds so wherever I go would have to be this side of the bridge.
Edited to add actually no I don't think it would unless I removed all the washers too, even then possibly not. I'm sure if I got desperate my flatmate would help me transport it.
FJRider
6th January 2013, 22:06
Quite possible, would have to find a nut though and only safe for slow speeds so wherever I go would have to be this side of the bridge.
Edited to add actually no I don't think it would unless I removed all the washers too, even then possibly not. I'm sure if I got desperate my flatmate would help me transport it.
Probably only need one washer to hold it. Even a few turns of a nut would do. Or as Flip suggested ..
Bikemad
6th January 2013, 22:19
hey there BL...i'm on the shore and could probably sort something out for you if the flattie doesn"t come through for ya..........
bosslady
7th January 2013, 04:51
hey there BL...i'm on the shore and could probably sort something out for you if the flattie doesn"t come through for ya..........
that would be awesome, thank you! I'll see how he goes today and if no luck I'll PM ya :)
ducatilover
7th January 2013, 08:50
It's easy to fix, just drill it out and tap in a stud.
Should be about an 1-2 hours work. If you were down here I would do it for you, or show you how to do it.
Any local wee engineering shops, or even the local dealer should be able to do it for you.
What this man said. It's an easy fix.
Nup, was stiff as hell, put a bit of weight on it to get it to turn and snap it did... Use loctites and fresh washers on late model (Chinese) GNs, they plating on the nuts, washers and threads is crap and rusts solid. Heaps of bi-metal corrosion on 'em.
How did they break THAT???:crazy:
Did somebody try turning it the wrong way?? Chinese parts love to weld themselves :D
Looking at the pic of the rear suspension on the other side ... and at the broken one ... it looks like on nut holds on the suspension and another holds on the seat strap. Is that correct .. ??? It's just the suspension and the pack rack/grab bar. Behind it are two 12mm bolts, these hold the seat. :yes:
Maha
7th January 2013, 09:01
Vice grips?...clamp on and start turning.
Had the same thing happen on Annes Bandit, took the seat of and got to the remaining bit that way...
No real need to over think this....http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/149899-Broken-bolt-Help
ducatilover
7th January 2013, 09:16
Vice grips?...clamp on and start turning.
Had the same thing happen on Annes Bandit, took the seat of and got to the remaining bit that way...
No real need to over think this....http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/149899-Broken-bolt-Help
On my GN those susp bolts are welded on
Maha
7th January 2013, 09:17
On my GN those susp bolts are welded on
Chinese made? or prior?
Looking at the pics again, it appears that an attempt has been made with grips already?
ducatilover
7th January 2013, 09:21
Chinese made? or prior?
Jap, of course. Chinese ones don't have wire wheels :bleh: and that's why I own it
p.dath
7th January 2013, 10:05
...I presume this can be fixed (otherwise yes, tears will flow) but who can/will do it in Auckland?...
I see you are on the North Shore. I've always found Brugar Engineering (in Takapuna) good at doing those little jobs, and reasonable price wise. They can also do aluminium welding if needed.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/wiki/Brugar_Engineering
bosslady
7th January 2013, 11:13
Vice grips?...clamp on and start turning.
Had the same thing happen on Annes Bandit, took the seat of and got to the remaining bit that way...
No real need to over think this....http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/149899-Broken-bolt-Help
Tried that, doesn't turn, it's welded on.
On my GN those susp bolts are welded on
Yup
Chinese made? or prior?
Looking at the pics again, it appears that an attempt has been made with grips already?
No idea if it's Chinese or Japanese(?), does anyone know? lol. And yes, an attempt had already been made...
I see you are on the North Shore. I've always found Brugar Engineering (in Takapuna) good at doing those little jobs, and reasonable price wise. They can also do aluminium welding if needed.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/wiki/Brugar_Engineering
I may be lucky... one of my suppliers at work has been internet stalking me (a reader, not a poster) on here, lol. Hopefully we can sort something! Will keep ya'll posted..
bogan
7th January 2013, 11:58
That's a piss poor design, I'm guessing not enough washers/spacers were used (suggesting a level of spannering equal to that of the design) so when the dome nut was done up it bottomed out, add a few years and its gotten well stuck on there.
Flip's suggestion of drilling and tapping it is the way to go, you might need to get a decent spacer made up to ensure the shock is held correctly as the new bolt won't go in perfectly straight, but its too hard to tell from the photos if that will be needed or not.
neels
7th January 2013, 12:04
From the pics and what you've said the top shock mounts are part of the frame, so to completely replace them you'd need to remove them and weld new ones on.
The easiest option is probably to drill and thread a hole in the end of what's left and use a bolt to hold it all together, or alternatively drill right through and put a bolt from the inside if you want to keep the dome nut on the outside like it originally had.
bosslady
7th January 2013, 12:33
All excellent advice, I'm going to go see my wee internet stalker (sorry Barry ;)) tonight to see what we can do. I wonder if I can get another dome nut like that from the bolt shop? There's no way the bolt that snapped off is going to come out of the original one... at least I don't think so. And and and it all has to match, you see!
ducatilover
7th January 2013, 12:34
No idea if it's Chinese or Japanese(?), does anyone know? Yours is Chinese made
That's a piss poor design
The perfect chassis for a 600cc single then? :2thumbsup
I must be a bit soft in the head
From the pics and what you've said the top shock mounts are part of the frame, so to completely replace them you'd need to remove them and weld new ones on.
The easiest option is probably to drill and thread a hole in the end of what's left and use a bolt to hold it all together, or alternatively drill right through and put a bolt from the inside if you want to keep the dome nut on the outside like it originally had.
^ wot 'e said. All you need is to keep the stepped part for the suspension bushing and some way of holding it on
Personally, I'd grind the welds off and get a new part turned up and welded in.
bogan
7th January 2013, 12:38
All excellent advice, I'm going to go see my wee internet stalker (sorry Barry ;)) tonight to see what we can do. I wonder if I can get another dome nut like that from the bolt shop? There's no way the bolt that snapped off is going to come out of the original one... at least I don't think so. And and and it all has to match, you see!
I don't think it will be a bolt, looks like they just put a thread on the same bit of (cheese) metal as the mount.
And it will match, both sides will be shit, same as any other GN (600s perhaps excluded) :bleh:
bosslady
7th January 2013, 12:39
Personally, I'd grind the welds off and get a new part turned up and welded in.
Hmm I would prefer welded, but will see what can be done tonight. Even if it's just drilling through and putting a bolt through on the other end that will do for the short term until I can sort something better out, I think? I don't think he'd have anything to weld, but I could be wrong...
bosslady
7th January 2013, 12:40
.... will be shit, same as all GN's ...
Why, how rude! ;)
ducatilover
7th January 2013, 12:40
Hmm I would prefer welded, but will see what can be done tonight. Even if it's just drilling through and putting a bolt through on the other end that will do for the short term until I can sort something better out, I think? I don't think he'd have anything to weld, but I could be wrong...
You could tap a hole down the mount and run a bolt in to it there?
Otherwise I'll give ya $500 for it :bleh:
bosslady
7th January 2013, 12:46
I'll give ya $500 for it :bleh:
Piss off :laugh: Paid four times that for it, lol. But thanks for the offer ;)
bosslady
7th January 2013, 12:48
hmmm the smiley faces didn't work...
neels
7th January 2013, 12:51
I wonder if I can get another dome nut like that from the bolt shop? There's no way the bolt that snapped off is going to come out of the original one... at least I don't think so. And and and it all has to match, you see!
Bolt shop or maybe hardware shop will have dome nuts. Buy two so they match both sides, mismatched nuts/bolts really bug me too.
bosslady
7th January 2013, 12:54
Bolt shop or maybe hardware shop will have dome nuts. Buy two so they match both sides, mismatched nuts/bolts really bug me too.
Good idea. There's "The Bolt Shop" (or is it the "nut" shop?) in wairau/glenfield/whatever, I'm sure they would have something...
unstuck
7th January 2013, 12:56
Even if it is cheese(shit metal) still gonna be a prick to drill, espessially if its still on the bike.
Yeah, and I know I cant spell.:finger:
ducatilover
7th January 2013, 12:56
Piss off :laugh: Paid four times that for it, lol. But thanks for the offer ;)
:oi-grr: Fine, keep your silly broken bike :bleh:
unstuck
7th January 2013, 12:57
Piss off :laugh: Paid four times that for it, lol. But thanks for the offer ;)
Fuck, you actually paid someone money for it.:wacko:
Laava
7th January 2013, 13:14
No real need to over think this....http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/149899-Broken-bolt-Help
Now come on Mark, how are we going to get to 4 pages with this type of attitude!
Internet Damsel flutters her pixelated lashes and whispers "Hayelp" a few times
Internet advice is offered, some good, some bad, some unconstructive
Internet volunteers turn up in meatspace to admire/help damsel and problem. Some good, some bad, some dodgy.
Problem gets solved, by and large, the correct way.
Damsel rides off into smogset gratefully.
bogan
7th January 2013, 13:18
Nobody told me she was a damsel, I'll get me tool out... to er... help? :shifty:
skippa1
7th January 2013, 13:22
Nobody told me she was a damsel, I'll get me tool out... to er... help? :shifty:
Bosslady and ♀ didnt give it away?
bogan
7th January 2013, 13:25
Bosslady and ♀ didnt give it away?
Not all wimmens are Damsels, shit, haven't you read Snow White, or watched the movie at least?
bosslady
7th January 2013, 13:33
Fuck, you actually paid someone money for it.:wacko:
Yeah, crazy shit eh?
Now come on Mark, how are we going to get to 4 pages with this type of attitude!
Internet Damsel flutters her pixelated lashes and whispers "Hayelp" a few times
Internet advice is offered, some good, some bad, some unconstructive
Internet volunteers turn up in meatspace to admire/help damsel and problem. Some good, some bad, some dodgy.
Problem gets solved, by and large, the correct way.
Damsel rides off into smogset gratefully.
Hahahahahahaha ahhhhhh priceless. Not only am I a damsel (hmm I think?) but a damn stupid one at that, don't understand mechan-ics in the slightest... I'm probably one of the most stupidest (that's a word, look it up) people in this regard you'll ever "internet" meet and in "real" life too... blonde without being blonde and completely useless.
Nobody told me she was a damsel, I'll get me tool out... to er... help? :shifty:
Yup, last time I looked but maybe I need to check again? hrmmm....
p.dath
7th January 2013, 13:37
Good idea. There's "The Bolt Shop" (or is it the "nut" shop?) in wairau/glenfield/whatever, I'm sure they would have something...
+1 to the "Bolt Shop". Archers road in Glenfield. Near the top of the hill. If you are going west along Archers road then it is on the left hand side, just before the lights.
Forget about buying one. Too card to get another identical one. Just buy two new replacements, then they will match.
Failing that, try the bike wreckers on Barry's Point road.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/wiki/Action_Bike_Wreckers
skippa1
7th January 2013, 13:49
Not all wimmens are Damsels, shit, haven't you read Snow White, or watched the movie at least?
I saw a movie with Snow White in it called Snow White and the F**king Dwarfs. I have to say Im not sure of the sexuality of Snow White still.....dwarfs were active little buggers though....:crazy:
Yup, last time I looked but maybe I need to check again? hrmmm....
I think he mighyt offer to help you with that..........:pinch:
bosslady
7th January 2013, 13:50
+1 to the "Bolt Shop". Archers road in Glenfield. Near the top of the hill. If you are going west along Archers road then it is on the left hand side, just before the lights.
Forget about buying one. Too card to get another identical one. Just buy two new replacements, then they will match.
Failing that, try the bike wreckers on Barry's Point road.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/wiki/Action_Bike_Wreckers
Yup have been there before, about three times in the space of one day I believe, fetching bolts and washers for my flatmates bike... :rolleyes: two matching one sounds like a good plan. May I will see about getting another bolt too? Hmm might wait see what Barry says.
FJRider
7th January 2013, 15:10
You could tap a hole down the mount and run a bolt in to it there?
Maybe cut the old mount off and grind the area flat The weld the new bolt head to the flat area. Easier that way to keep it sticking out at the correct angle .. ???
A stepped suspension mount could even be made in a lathe pretty easily.
scumdog
7th January 2013, 15:42
Yeah, crazy shit eh?
Hahahahahahaha ahhhhhh priceless. Not only am I a damsel (hmm I think?) but a damn stupid one at that, don't understand mechan-ics in the slightest... I'm probably one of the most stupidest (that's a word, look it up) people in this regard you'll ever "internet" meet and in "real" life too... blonde without being blonde and completely useless.....
Ya ain't stupid - ya just ain't learn't all tha kinda shit ya need ta know when ya ride motorsickles..;)
Ocean1
7th January 2013, 16:15
Oh for fuxache, it's easy, get the guy at the shop to grind the old stub off, drill and tap the remaining shank nice and square to the original thread size and loctite a piece of screwed rod into it. Good as new.
You can buy domed nuts, although you might only get stainless ones. Either way when you refit the nuts make sure you loctite them on also.
ducatilover
7th January 2013, 17:25
Oh for fuxache, it's easy, get the guy at the shop to grind the old stub off, drill and tap the remaining shank nice and square to the original thread size and loctite a piece of screwed rod into it. Good as new.
You can buy domed nuts, although you might only get stainless ones. Either way when you refit the nuts make sure you loctite them on also.
Somebody had to go and be logical eh? :angry:
Mom
7th January 2013, 17:57
Not only am I a damsel (hmm I think?) but a damn stupid one at that, don't understand mechan-ics in the slightest...
Dye your hair blond, it will help with the overall impression you make :2thumbsup
bosslady
7th January 2013, 18:13
Dye your hair blond, it will help with the overall impression you make :2thumbsup
hmm which is?
bosslady
7th January 2013, 18:33
I was lucky enough that there was justttttt enough bolt to still work with. My flatmate filed the end a bit (vice grips destroyed it) then he cut some new thread using a die cut. I went to The Bolt Shop beforehand and got some new washers and a domed nut(?) and he put that on so I could get around the corner to Barry's. Barry was confident that what we figured out would be just fine. Basically we used the thread that the flatty made and it goes frame, washer, pack rack, suspension, washer, nut. Normally there would be a washer between the pack rack and suspension but there wasn't enough room. We've removed the strap for the same reason, not enough room. The "normal" side is frame, washer, pack rack, washer, suspension, washer, washer, nut. Had to stay with the old nut as it suited the thread better, the new one was a different thread? However the new nut suited the new thread just fine, the old nut wouldn't fit the new thread and the new nut is shorter which is great seeing as some of the bolt got snapped off! nuts, nuts, nuts... that's me... He put some loctite (?) on there. So very lucky that I had just enough bolt left otherwise it would have been a bit more time consuming and have kept me off the road for a wee bit.
I understand this thread is a bit "and what? get over it!" for those of you who are clearly more experienced and/or more technically minded but please understand I'm not (experienced or technical minded) but I AM learning...
Ta muchly for all advice. Good thing is maybe one day someone who's as hopeless as me will make a similar mistake and this thread will prove very useful as it did to me :)
Thanks again! :rockon:
FJRider
7th January 2013, 18:33
Dye your hair blond, it will help with the overall impression you make :2thumbsup
Grey works for me ...
My excuse ... and I'm sticking to it ..
FJRider
7th January 2013, 18:39
I was lucky enough that there was justttttt enough bolt to still work with.
Thanks again! :rockon:
Progress ... :2thumbsup
You can smile a bit now ... :yes:
bogan
7th January 2013, 18:42
I was lucky enough that there was justttttt enough bolt to still work with. My flatmate filed the end a bit (vice grips destroyed it) then he cut some new thread using a die cut. I went to The Bolt Shop beforehand and got some new washers and a domed nut(?) and he put that on so I could get around the corner to Barry's. Barry was confident that what we figured out would be just fine. Basically we used the thread that the flatty made and it goes frame, washer, pack rack, suspension, washer, nut. Normally there would be a washer between the pack rack and suspension but there wasn't enough room. We've removed the strap for the same reason, not enough room. The "normal" side is frame, washer, pack rack, washer, suspension, washer, washer, nut. Had to stay with the old nut as it suited the thread better, the new one was a different thread? However the new nut suited the new thread just fine, the old nut wouldn't fit the new thread and the new nut is shorter which is great seeing as some of the bolt got snapped off! nuts, nuts, nuts... that's me... He put some loctite (?) on there. So very lucky that I had just enough bolt left otherwise it would have been a bit more time consuming and have kept me off the road for a wee bit.
I understand this thread is a bit "and what? get over it!" for those of you who are clearly more experienced and/or more technically minded but please understand I'm not (experienced or technical minded) but I AM learning...
Ta muchly for all advice. Good thing is maybe one day someone who's as hopeless as me will make a similar mistake and this thread will prove very useful as it did to me :)
Thanks again! :rockon:
Did you perhaps not match the thread pitches exactly? Would explain why the nuts are compatible. Anyway, good to hear its sussed, one more GN still on the roads :pinch:
bosslady
7th January 2013, 18:52
Progress ... :2thumbsup
You can smile a bit now ... :yes:
A huge feeling of relief for sure, very happy.
Did you perhaps not match the thread pitches exactly? Would explain why the nuts are compatible. Anyway, good to hear its sussed, one more GN still on the roads :pinch:
No idea. It was hard for the man in the bolt shop as he didn't have much to work with but if you mean my flatty who threaded it, I've no idea again. And.... don't sound so disappointed ;)
bogan
7th January 2013, 18:55
And.... don't sound so disappointed ;)
Just taking the piss, you'll see why when you upgrade. You're actually getting good 'upgrade miles' though, start low and you get more 'fuck this is awesome' bikes!
bosslady
7th January 2013, 18:59
Just taking the piss, you'll see why when you upgrade. You're actually getting good 'upgrade miles' though, start low and you get more 'fuck this is awesome' bikes!
I can already see why... struggling to keep at 100kmph up a not so steep incline full throttle doesn't seem quite right, lol. Not sure what "upgrade miles" means though...
The Lone Rider
7th January 2013, 19:03
If you haven't found someone else to sort it, I will be in Auckland on Friday and Saturday and may be able to come have a look and give some possible remedies.
Obviously I won't be carrying a welder or tap n die set, so I can only give advice.
bosslady
7th January 2013, 19:07
If you haven't found someone else to sort it, I will be in Auckland on Friday and Saturday and may be able to come have a look and give some possible remedies.
Obviously I won't be carrying a welder or tap n die set, so I can only give advice.
Sorted now but thank you very much for your kind offer :)
bogan
7th January 2013, 19:11
I can already see why... struggling to keep at 100kmph up a not so steep incline full throttle doesn't seem quite right, lol. Not sure what "upgrade miles" means though...
Your one makes it to a hundy, well la de da, you must have got a fancy version then!
Upgrade miles means that you get to do ages on a bike that feels like an upgrade to your last. Once you run out of those there are only 'sidegrade miles' (bikes that are just as good overall, but more suited for a specific ride), and that shit gets expensive real quick.
Ocean1
7th January 2013, 19:33
and that shit gets expensive real quick.
Meh. When you start paying more for each horsepower than your first bike cost you can bitch about it.
FJRider
7th January 2013, 19:35
Not sure what "upgrade miles" means though...
The miles you travel with the (constant) thought ... "I need a bigger/better bike" ... :yes:
unstuck
7th January 2013, 19:40
The miles you travel with the (constant) thought ... "I need a bigger/better bike" ... :yes:
Sort of like penis envy.:Punk:
neels
7th January 2013, 19:41
Basically we used the thread that the flatty made and it goes frame, washer, pack rack, suspension, washer, nut. Normally there would be a washer between the pack rack and suspension but there wasn't enough room. We've removed the strap for the same reason, not enough room. The "normal" side is frame, washer, pack rack, washer, suspension, washer, washer, nut.
Some thoughts on the above.....
Shouldn't the pack rack be mounted outside the shock bush, otherwise you're spacing it further out from where it was originally fitted?
Is there a sleeve inside the top shock bush or still a step in the top shock mount? If you've threaded further along the mount there needs to be something to tighten against, otherwise either the rubber bush will compress or the steel loop will end up tight against something preventing it from moving as it should
FJRider
7th January 2013, 19:46
Sort of like penis envy.:Punk:
Dunno ... never suffered from that either ... :innocent:
On the FJ .. I never wish for another .... :rockon:
FJRider
7th January 2013, 19:50
Shouldn't the pack rack be mounted outside the shock bush, otherwise you're spacing it further out from where it was originally fitted?
With what I saw of the pic shown in the trademe add ... it was built with the end square angled to mount on the inside of the shock. Putting it on the outside would not be an option.
bogan
7th January 2013, 19:55
Meh. When you start paying more for each horsepower than your first bike cost you can bitch about it.
pffft, if your money is still actually increasing your horsepower you can't complain either, get started on power to weight with ti goodness, that'll piss off the bank manager!
bosslady
7th January 2013, 20:44
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Some thoughts on the above.....
Shouldn't the pack rack be mounted outside the shock bush, otherwise you're spacing it further out from where it was originally fitted?
Is there a sleeve inside the top shock bush or still a step in the top shock mount? If you've threaded further along the mount there needs to be something to tighten against, otherwise either the rubber bush will compress or the steel loop will end up tight against something preventing it from moving as it should
It's just as it was with the aftermarket, inside of the shock, no way it would fit outside of it. Not sure what you mean about
where there needs to be something to tighten against, otherwise either the rubber bush will compress or the steel loop will end up tight against something
neels
7th January 2013, 21:03
It's just as it was with the aftermarket, inside of the shock, no way it would fit outside of it. Not sure what you mean about
Either the mounting stud for the top of the shock should step up to a larger size where the thread ends, or there should be a steel or plastic sleeve through the rubber bush. That way when the washer and nut are done up tight the rubber bush and steel loop on the top of the shock can still move.
I bought a bike a while back where the sleeves had been left out of the rubber bushes on both ends of the shock, so it effectively had a rigid back end because the steel loops were bolted up tight to the bits beside them, gets bloody hard on the arse after the first 2 minutes or so.
FJRider
7th January 2013, 21:03
It's just as it was with the aftermarket, inside of the shock, no way it would fit outside of it.
The mounts at the suspension end are wide and flat ... and slotted. Not a loop. The mounts at the rear are a loop. Mounting them (as the builder designed it) keeps the ugly bits out of sight. And less to catch on trouser legs ...
Now just keep your eye out for a CHEAP pack-rack bag ... a few pop up now and then.
bosslady
7th January 2013, 21:12
Either the mounting stud for the top of the shock should step up to a larger size where the thread ends, or there should be a steel or plastic sleeve through the rubber bush. That way when the washer and nut are done up tight the rubber bush and steel loop on the top of the shock can still move.
I bought a bike a while back where the sleeves had been left out of the rubber bushes on both ends of the shock, so it effectively had a rigid back end because the steel loops were bolted up tight to the bits beside them, gets bloody hard on the arse after the first 2 minutes or so.
Argh, I wish I understood what you meant, sorry I'm trying to understand. Don't know what mounting stud is, I haven't seen any plastic and don't know what a rubber bush is... sorry :(
bosslady
7th January 2013, 21:14
The mounts at the suspension end are wide and flat ... and slotted. Not a loop. The mounts at the rear are a loop. Mounting them (as the builder designed it) keeps the ugly bits out of sight. And less to catch on trouser legs ...
Now just keep your eye out for a CHEAP pack-rack bag ... a few pop up now and then.
This makes sense :)
FJRider
7th January 2013, 21:15
Either the mounting stud for the top of the shock should step up to a larger size where the thread ends
The pic's of the shock mounts (are this way) as can be seen in the photo album of her bike on her profile page.
bosslady
7th January 2013, 21:25
pics added of normal and short sides
unstuck
8th January 2013, 07:06
Argh, I wish I understood what you meant, Don't know what mounting stud is, (
This is a stud mounting.;)
ducatilover
8th January 2013, 08:14
Your one makes it to a hundy, well la de da, you must have got a fancy version then!
Mine pulled 130 on the 300 kit with a rooted clutch :D
Probably not the best way to run it in... :wacko:
ducatilover
8th January 2013, 08:15
Is there a sleeve inside the top shock bush or still a step in the top shock mount? If you've threaded further along the mount there needs to be something to tighten against, otherwise either the rubber bush will compress or the steel loop will end up tight against something preventing it from moving as it should
They have a sleeve in the bush and the mount is also stepped
What could possibly go wrong anyway? :2thumbsup
Laava
8th January 2013, 08:19
Geez! Is there a GN under there!
sugilite
8th January 2013, 09:26
This has to be the most epic broken bolt thread ever, sorted at post 58 and still going after post 86! :lol:
Lots of useful handy info in here too, so cool to learn new tricks. :yes:
Broken bolt threads that a *guy* might start, usually go like...
Post 1: I've snapped a bolt, please help?
Post 2: Haha, your avatar looks like a small penis!!!
Post 3: Look for a engineer in the phone book ya lazy cunt.
Post 4: Dude, you heard of the forum search function?
Post 5: (insert helpful info here once someone that gives a shit logs on)
Post 6: Thanks! :2thumbsup
unstuck
8th January 2013, 09:47
This has to be the most epic broken bolt thread ever, sorted at post 58 and still going after post 86! :lol:
Lots of useful handy info in here too, so cool to learn new tricks. :yes:
Broken bolt threads that a *guy* might start, usually go like...
Post 1: I've snapped a bolt, please help?
Post 2: Haha, your avatar looks like a small penis!!!
Post 3: Look for a engineer in the phone book ya lazy cunt.
Post 4: Dude, you heard of the forum search function?
Post 5: (insert helpful info here once someone that gives a shit logs on)
Post 6: Thanks! :2thumbsup
But shes got BOOBIES.:2thumbsup
bosslady
8th January 2013, 10:09
This is a stud mounting.;)
Good, very good ;)
This has to be the most epic broken bolt thread ever, sorted at post 58 and still going after post 86! :lol:
Lots of useful handy info in here too, so cool to learn new tricks.
It's cause I'm a laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaady. But actually... I'm pleasantly surprised no one's tried to rip me a new one yet (note the emphasis on the yet).
But shes got BOOBIES.:2thumbsup
Sigh... debatable...
unstuck
8th January 2013, 10:13
It,s not the size, but how ya use it.:2thumbsup Thats what I keep telling myself anyhow.:whistle:
bosslady
8th January 2013, 10:18
It,s not the size, but how ya use it.:2thumbsup Thats what I keep telling myself anyhow.:whistle:
It's what one has left to use after two children that's the problem :nya: but that's another conversation and in no way related to my bolt problem :whistle:
ducatilover
8th January 2013, 13:18
It,s not the size, but how ya use it.:2thumbsup Thats what I keep telling myself anyhow.:whistle:
So if you're good with a really big one?
unstuck
8th January 2013, 16:27
So if you're good with a really big one?
You would be a lucky bastard then, wouldnt you.:eek5:
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