Power Commander and quicker shifters?

[neil_cb125t]

Hey peps,

So im going to throw a Quickshifter onto the ZX650r, Im running a PC3 with the ign module and to run race shift we are running a std linkage so will need a pull type shifter. Im looking at one of these:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DYNOJET-POWER-COMMANDER-QUICKSHIFTER-TO-FIT-PCIIIusb-PULL-MODULE-/200781207077?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item2ebf7e1625

I have never fitted one before - anyone had experience with these? Recommendations?

cheers

[codgyoleracer]

Hey peps,

So im going to throw a Quickshifter onto the ZX650r, Im running a PC3 with the ign module and to run race shift we are running a std linkage so will need a pull type shifter. Im looking at one of these:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DYNOJET-POWER-COMMANDER-QUICKSHIFTER-TO-FIT-PCIIIusb-PULL-MODULE-/200781207077?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item2ebf7e1625

I have never fitted one before - anyone had experience with these? Recommendations?

cheers

Yeah its realy hard,
1) Fit link rod / inline sensor. usually involves a 10mm spanner
2) Plug the white plug into the plughole on PC3


Ummmmm..................yeah thats it. :-)

[neil_cb125t]

Yeah its realy hard,
1) Fit link rod / inline sensor. usually involves a 10mm spanner
2) Plug the white plug into the plughole on PC3


Ummmmm..................yeah thats it. :-)

Us kawasaki riders are fairly simple :eek5: Im sure ill stuff it up some how.....

So is the SVR going in a glass case glen?

[MarcusWyatt]

Yeah its realy hard,
1) Fit link rod / inline sensor. usually involves a 10mm spanner
2) Plug the white plug into the plughole on PC3


Ummmmm..................yeah thats it. :-)

Ummmmm..................don't forget to zip tie the electrical wiring, because snapping the wiring can be a bugger!!!! :brick:

Nah, really easy to fit mate...

Are you only doing the NI Nationals Glen?

[Mental Trousers]

As long as your PC3 is up to date it's a 3 minute job (would be a 2 minute job but it took me a while to figure out where the 10mm went).

If you got a recent PC3 the firmware will be up to date. If it's a couple of years old it may need an update. If, like mine, it sat in a shed for 4.5 years you have to get hold of the stupid programmer module to update the firmware.

Yell out if you need the programmer module (I ended up buying one cos everybody I went to said it had to go on the dyno to be reprogrammed).

[neil_cb125t]

As long as your PC3 is up to date it's a 3 minute job (would be a 2 minute job but it took me a while to figure out where the 10mm went).

If you got a recent PC3 the firmware will be up to date. If it's a couple of years old it may need an update. If, like mine, it sat in a shed for 4.5 years you have to get hold of the stupid programmer module to update the firmware.

Yell out if you need the programmer module (I ended up buying one cos everybody I went to said it had to go on the dyno to be reprogrammed).

cheers matey - yep we are all updated, had to when we sorted the ignition controller. Be a few weeks before I get one.....let you know how I go.

[codgyoleracer]

Us kawasaki riders are fairly simple :eek5: Im sure ill stuff it up some how.....

So is the SVR going in a glass case glen?


50/50 on that one, - but yes it has pretty much reached its end of line commuter bike development.

[neil_cb125t]

50/50 on that one, - but yes it has pretty much reached its end of line commuter bike development.

Its surely worth putting on display, all the work thats gone into her. Tis a shame, It will still be a good year or so for me to get my thing close enough to top F3 times.

Im sure we will see you at the race track soon enough, maybe on something different:yes:

[Maha]

Is a 'Quicker shifter' quicker than a Quick Shifter?

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[neil_cb125t]

Is a 'Quicker shifter' quicker than a Quick Shifter?

When im riding - yep ;)

[Mental Trousers]

50/50 on that one, - but yes it has pretty much reached its end of line commuter bike development.

Its surely worth putting on display, all the work thats gone into her. Tis a shame, It will still be a good year or so for me to get my thing close enough to top F3 times.

Im sure we will see you at the race track soon enough, maybe on something different:yes:

I know a man who is building 1 litre singles (he had 40 of them lined up for production) for racing ...... just saying.

[Kevin G]

Hey peps,

So im going to throw a Quickshifter onto the ZX650r, Im running a PC3 with the ign module and to run race shift we are running a std linkage so will need a pull type shifter. Im looking at one of these:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DYNOJET-POWER-COMMANDER-QUICKSHIFTER-TO-FIT-PCIIIusb-PULL-MODULE-/200781207077?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item2ebf7e1625

I have never fitted one before - anyone had experience with these? Recommendations?

cheers

I have the translogic units in stock, bloody awesome units and do not need to plug into the power commander...stand-alone ECU supplied.

[feral1]

I know a man who is building 1 litre singles (he had 40 of them lined up for production) for racing ...... just saying.



http://www.jbsracingpage.co.uk/

100BHP; 38kg engine.

Now wouldn't that be shits 'n giggles.


Feral

[Mental Trousers]

That's the one :niceone:

I always fancied getting a Husaberg 650 and putting one of his big bore + stroker kits in it and stuff that into a 250GP rolling chassis. It'd need extra thick padding on the seat cos the damn thing would kick. Fun fun fun :)

[feral1]

That's the one :niceone:

I always fancied getting a Husaberg 650 and putting one of his big bore + stroker kits in it and stuff that into a 250GP rolling chassis. It'd need extra thick padding on the seat cos the damn thing would kick. Fun fun fun :)

Ring FTR Moto and get them to box up a hand me down rolling chassis from last year...:niceone:
http://www.ftrmoto.com/bikes/used-bikes/#prettyPhoto

Feral

[Mental Trousers]

Would be nice, but I've got other things to do with €48,000.00 Euro. Soon as the Magical Money Fairy drops that off.

[steveyb]

Makes the sub or around $20k NZD IMD250 look much more attractive eh?
Less than half the money for 85+% of the bike.
Buy a Honda NSF250 engine and an IMD250 kit and you have a Moto3 bike every bit as good (potentially at least) as the FTR for a fraction of the cost. The IMD250 will be in the same ballpark if it is not just as good.

As you were though.

[Mental Trousers]

Don't think you'd shoe horn a 735cc Husaberg single into the IMD250 frame Stevey. If you did manage it it'd probably look like a Pretzel once the engine fired up.

[steveyb]

Ahhh, yeah....
I was meaning the ahh, FTR Moto3 bike?

But, if the Husaberg is balanced OK it would be no worries. Just make the frame out of heavier guage tubing and Bob's your aunty.

[scrivy]

and Bob's your aunty.

No, he's my sidecar passenger.......

[neil_cb125t]

Right peoples, the shifter is on.....The factory setting seems to be .65ms of a cut for it to change....is this suitable for on the track??

[Mental Trousers]

Right peoples, the shifter is on.....The factory setting seems to be .65ms of a cut for it to change....is this suitable for on the track??

I'm currently running mine at 80ms, haven't tried a shorter interval.

At 80ms it's perfectly fine - smooth, seamless shifts and the only thing I notice is the revs change when I prod the lever.

The only problem I've noticed is if I'm a bit undecided as to what my left foot is doing I sometimes bump the lever and it momentary cuts the ignition without changing gear. But that's a problem with the rider, not the shifter and it only happens at track days, not race days.

[neil_cb125t]

I'm currently running mine at 80ms, haven't tried a shorter interval.

At 80ms it's perfectly fine - smooth, seamless shifts and the only thing I notice is the revs change when I prod the lever.

The only problem I've noticed is if I'm a bit undecided as to what my left foot is doing I sometimes bump the lever and it momentary cuts the ignition without changing gear. But that's a problem with the rider, not the shifter and it only happens at track days, not race days.

cool matey - im off to pmcc round 2 at taupo so ill try std there and go to .8 if its too tight! thanks heaps:msn-wink:

[steveyb]

You need to test it and change it for different circuits (optimally).
If the bike pitches when shifting then the duration is too long, if difficult to shift, it is too short.

[neil_cb125t]

You need to test it and change it for different circuits (optimally).
If the bike pitches when shifting then the duration is too long, if difficult to shift, it is too short.

Rodger that

[Kevin G]

Rodger that

You could have just bought a Translogic one with AST that does it all for you....Automatically adjusts the cut time depending on rpm's (not many shifters will do this) so you can short shift when needed without the bike pitching....
www.racesupplies.co.nz

[neil_cb125t]

You could have just bought a Translogic one with AST that does it all for you....Automatically adjusts the cut time depending on rpm's (not many shifters will do this) so you can short shift when needed without the bike pitching....
www.racesupplies.co.nz

Sounds fantastic, however the price is around triple the cost of the PC one.... Its sucks that I can't justify purchasing products like this from good guys like yourself in NZ matey.

[Maido]

Generally the cut is longer in the lower gears, particularly 1st gear. From memory as a base .65 for first then ramp them down to about .45 for higher gears as there is less effort req to push them through.

[Mental Trousers]

Sounds fantastic, however the price is around triple the cost of the PC one.... Its sucks that I can't justify purchasing products like this from good guys like yourself in NZ matey.

If you know someone that has the software to activate the quick shifter in the Power Commander, all you need is to hook the Horn button to the correct pins on the expansion port (first and last) and you've got yourself a zero dollar quickshifter.

[neil_cb125t]

If you know someone that has the software to activate the quick shifter in the Power Commander, all you need is to hook the Horn button to the correct pins on the expansion port (first and last) and you've got yourself a zero dollar quickshifter.

Racing at taupo this sunday so will see how she goes, im not really a fan of those push button jobbys

[Mental Trousers]

Racing at taupo this sunday so will see how she goes, im not really a fan of those push button jobbys

Me either. But if anyone else wants a quick shifter with their PC3 it's piss easy. All they need to do is borrow the cd and activate the quick shifting.

[tail_end_charlie]

Me either. But if anyone else wants a quick shifter with their PC3 it's piss easy. All they need to do is borrow the cd and activate the quick shifting.

Hmmmmm, this is interesting. I have a PCIII on my Daytona. So if I understand correctly, you would be using the horn button (or the flash to pass switch) to activate the QS function instead of a switch in the gear shifter linkage?

So coming out of a corner, preload the shifter a little and hit the button to shift?

[neil_cb125t]

Hmmmmm, this is interesting. I have a PCIII on my Daytona. So if I understand correctly, you would be using the horn button (or the flash to pass switch) to activate the QS function instead of a switch in the gear shifter linkage?

So coming out of a corner, preload the shifter a little and hit the button to shift?

yep thats bout it, think you may need a PCIII ign controller thou

[tee]

http://www.powercommander.com/downloads/general_downloads/accelerator_pump/PCShiftKillEnable.zip

:yes:

[Mental Trousers]

http://www.powercommander.com/downloads/general_downloads/accelerator_pump/PCShiftKillEnable.zip

:yes:

That'd be it.

[Mental Trousers]

yep thats bout it, think you may need a PCIII ign controller thou

Depends on the bike. If it has 2 injectors per cylinder (pretty much every sports bike in the last few years) you need the Ignition Module. If it only has a single injector per cylinder then you don't.

Without the ignition module it'll only cut fuel when you hit the button.