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placidfemme
12th August 2005, 12:37
Prisoner release on compassionate grounds dies
12.08.05 12.10pm
A prisoner diagnosed with terminal cancer has died less than a month after being released on compassionate grounds.
The parole board released Henry Temete Hete Matafeo, 23, on July 20, after accepting submissions from his doctors, family and victim that his condition meant he was no threat to the community.
At the time, the board said Matafeo's faced "nothing better than purgatory on earth before his eventual demise".
Matafeo had been sentenced in Manukau District Court in December to five years' jail for his part in an aggravated robbery during which a service station attendant was viciously beaten.
Matafeo, who had been in a public hospital under 24-hour guard, was released into the care of his family at his mother's Papakura home.
Matafeo died last night.
Well for those of you that thought it was wrong... he's dead now...
*was personally glad he was let home to die with his family*
scumdog
12th August 2005, 12:38
Taxes saved.
placidfemme
12th August 2005, 12:39
Taxes saved.
yeah for a change
Sniper
12th August 2005, 12:40
His problem.
Lou Girardin
12th August 2005, 14:23
Hmmmm. no expressions of condolence for him?
placidfemme
12th August 2005, 14:27
I feel for his family. And I was fully supportive of him being sent home for two reasons
(a) his family deserved to be able to have time with him before he died (My mother died from cancer so I felt their pain and I know how much you want to be with someone you love when they die)
(b) because the tax payers shouldn't have to pay for his medical costs and guards taking him to his treatments and the such...
Honestly I don't even know why he was locked up. But I do feel for his family.
MD
12th August 2005, 14:31
Well congratulations to the Parole board. This will be their first case of releasing someone who will not re-offend. They must be so proud of themselves finally getting it right after all these years.
Beemer
12th August 2005, 14:34
I feel sorry for anyone who dies of cancer, my father did and it wasn't pleasant to watch. And at least now his family and all his supporters have no comeback - he was released before his death and died with his family so there won't be any compensation requests from the government.
But I still have more sympathy for his victim - having the crap beaten out of you for doing your job is never going to be right. Armed robbery is a pretty serious crime and he deserved to be locked up. At least he didn't get the chance to reoffend!
James Deuce
12th August 2005, 14:38
NO condolences to him or his family. It's just a shame our judicial system chose not to have the balls to let the bastard rot in prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. Oh. HAng on this is New Zealand. Do the crime so you can go on benefits for the rest of your life and then pop back in to prison when it gets too hard by beating some other poor wage slave up.
Str8 Jacket
12th August 2005, 14:42
NO condolences to him or his family. It's just a shame our judicial system chose not to have the balls to let the bastard rot in prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. Oh. HAng on this is New Zealand. Do the crime so you can go on benefits for the rest of your life and then pop back in to prison when it gets too hard by beating some other poor wage slave up.
Yep im with Jim2 on this one. He did the crime he SHOULD have done the time . . . Yes it's great that his family got to be with him, BUT that does not change the fact that he did what he did.
oldfart
12th August 2005, 14:54
So there is justice in the world.
Beemer
12th August 2005, 15:20
So there is justice in the world.
For once - don't get used to it!
TonyB
12th August 2005, 15:36
So there is some justice after all. I have watched several of the kindest, nicest people you could know die of cancer, and a few more who have survived with complications. This arsehole got what he deserved. It's good to see that there might actually be such a thing as Kharma after all...
As for his poor family- I do feel sorry for them, but isn't this yet another case of the criminals having more rights than the victims? If a person is severly assualted, they and their families must live with the repocussions FOREVER. It's worse still if a murder or violent rape is involved. Is there any escape for them? No. He committed the crime, the victim and their families lives are changed forever. Why should his family get special treatment?
Badcat
12th August 2005, 15:53
yep - rot, you ratfuck bastard.
the press seem to gloss over the fact that he beat a man nearly to death with an iron bar.
looks like:
Karma 1
mindless thug 0
John
12th August 2005, 15:58
Well congratulations to the Parole board. This will be their first case of releasing someone who will not re-offend. They must be so proud of themselves finally getting it right after all these years.
hahaha
karma is the shizzle
yungatart
12th August 2005, 15:59
No loss there- why are we even talking about this prick? He's not worth my time so I'll say no more.
placidfemme
12th August 2005, 16:05
No loss there- why are we even talking about this prick? He's not worth my time so I'll say no more.
Good to see you didn't waste your time reading this thread or replying to it
onearmedbandit
12th August 2005, 16:25
Placidfemme - out of curiosity would you be so forgiving if it was Sam who was attacked by this guy? I'm not trying to be an arsehole, just seeing how far your compassion goes.
placidfemme
12th August 2005, 17:14
Honestly... Proberly not. But it wasn't Sam. And who am I to condemn his whole family... and I never said I was forgiving towards him, nor did I say I condoned his actions, all I said was I thought it was good he went home to die with his family...
You want me to be in the shoes of the victim. Now put yourself in his families shoes (afterall they are victims too of his acts), if that was your father/mother/sister/brother/wife/husband/partner or child would you want them to die in prison without your love and support?
I've been looking at this from the families point of view not his own. I feel for his family. Like I said before, my mom died from cancer (only 3 years ago) and even if she had been a robber who beat someone to shit, I'd still want to be there for her when her time comes, and I'd want her out of jail too and at home.
I'm not going to judge him for what he did or did not do, thats not my place (in this instance anyway)
onearmedbandit
12th August 2005, 17:32
They could have my support in prison, if they had beat someone to within an inch of their life then they deserve to pay for it. Unfeeling? No, he choose to attack that person with an iron bar knowing full well the consequences he, and his family, would face. The victim did not choose to be attacked.
Should someone who has a terminal ailment be allowed to go out and murder, knowing that their condition will let them out early? Yes, I know the victim agreed to the early release but should that over-ride basic justice?
James Deuce
12th August 2005, 17:34
Honestly... Proberly not. But it wasn't Sam. And who am I to condemn his whole family... and I never said I was forgiving towards him, nor did I say I condoned his actions, all I said was I thought it was good he went home to die with his family...
You want me to be in the shoes of the victim. Now put yourself in his families shoes (afterall they are victims too of his acts), if that was your father/mother/sister/brother/wife/husband/partner or child would you want them to die in prison without your love and support?
I've been looking at this from the families point of view not his own. I feel for his family. Like I said before, my mom died from cancer (only 3 years ago) and even if she had been a robber who beat someone to shit, I'd still want to be there for her when her time comes, and I'd want her out of jail too and at home.
I'm not going to judge him for what he did or did not do, thats not my place (in this instance anyway)
I looked at it from the family's point of view too. Part of doing jail time IS the pain you put your family through, assuming that you aren't a member of one of NZ's family units that have made a 5 generation career out of crime and spinning the revolving doors at the front of our prisons.
If you can't do the time, don't do the crime. Whatever heartbreak he caused his family he brought on himself and his own family, all by himself. He should have finished his sentence in jail. It was an opportunity to teach a few valuable lessons and the opportunity was spurned by the "do-gooder" ethic that has removed personal responsibility, consequences, and discipline from the lexicon of social engineering.
I'm tired of the child molesters, the rapists, the violent offenders, the murderers, the fraudsters, the burglars, the robbers, and the drug pushers being allowed to continue their careers with only minor interuptions of a couple of years here and there. A convicted felon's personal tragedy should not give them the opportunity to leave the prison system for even a minute no matter how "sad", or how much the family wants it, or what some nebulous, unenforced International treaty demands by way of "Human Rights". He fucked somebody up with an Iron bar for goodness sake. He has no "rights".
Coyote
12th August 2005, 17:47
Mixed feelings about this. Yay, the bastard died, but then he didn't face the consequences he desearved because of his crime, dying was too good for him
Eurodave
12th August 2005, 17:50
Karma 1 mindless thug 0
Saw a bumper sticker once:
"My Karma just overran your dogma"
badlieutenant
12th August 2005, 18:08
I think if the victim say its alright then thats its all good. However, should the victim be dead or not willing to give permission then its should be "sorry fulla, your going to die in your cell/bed"
oh and another thing (thread diversion) does anyone here really believe "justice" is served by incarceration ?? The best thing it does (prison) is isolate dangerous people from the community.
If "justice" worked there would be no re-offenders.
"Justice" is really the community punishing a person for an act in an attempt to adjust thier behaviour. It doesnt work but whats the alternative ? (ideas that would work not public beatings or hangings, unless it was on pay TV)(or painting WINJAS roof)
texmo
12th August 2005, 18:15
NO condolences to him or his family. It's just a shame our judicial system chose not to have the balls to let the bastard rot in prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. Oh. HAng on this is New Zealand. Do the crime so you can go on benefits for the rest of your life and then pop back in to prison when it gets too hard by beating some other poor wage slave up.
I agree with Jim here aswell
James Deuce
12th August 2005, 18:27
I think if the victim say its alright then thats its all good. However, should the victim be dead or not willing to give permission then its should be "sorry fulla, your going to die in your cell/bed"
oh and another thing (thread diversion) does anyone here really believe "justice" is served by incarceration ?? The best thing it does (prison) is isolate dangerous people from the community.
If "justice" worked there would be no re-offenders.
"Justice" is really the community punishing a person for an act in an attempt to adjust thier behaviour. It doesnt work but whats the alternative ? (ideas that would work not public beatings or hangings, unless it was on pay TV)(or painting WINJAS roof)
The justice you are talking about is called rehabilitation.That costs a massive amount of money and is better spent at the top of the cliff, not the bottom.
Terribly sorry to hear that you have bought the line that punishment where due is a bad thing.
I don't agree that if the victim says it is OK then that makes his release OK. We have a Government and a set of Statutes that set laws, no individual Joe Blow saying, "Yeah No Worries". That approach to the victim was a bigger blow to justice than letting the prisoner with cancer out.
WINJA
12th August 2005, 19:27
HOPE THE CUNT SUFFERED TO THE LAST MINUTE , FUCK HIM, FUCK HIS BROTHER, AND FUCK HIS WHOLE FAMILY, IF HE WAS IN MY FAMILY WE WOULD NOT HAVE FORGIVEN HIM OR ACCEPTED HIM BACK
MikeL
12th August 2005, 22:07
So much anger.
Was death too good for him? Did he get off too lightly? Do you feel cheated?
"His problem" someone said.
No. Your problem.
Think about it.
Death is the great, final leveller.
Skyryder
12th August 2005, 22:25
This guy was done for aggrivated robberry. That's robbery with violence. I like to think I still have some compassion................but not for these fuckers.
Skyryder
NotaGoth
12th August 2005, 22:26
You know what I seriously think you all need to sit down and think about this cancer thing.
SURE he was put in jail for a reason but to die from Cancer then have you all start going on about karma ITS FUCKING PATHETIC!!!!!!!
Call me a bitch but I've sat and watched a good man who I loved with all my heart die from that shit, tell me what the hell did he do to derserve it????
Next thing you know you all may as well say that anyone who dies from it is getting "theirs back"
Last thing I have to say...
Try bringing karma into it after you watch someone YOU love die from cancer.
Skyryder
12th August 2005, 22:34
The justice you are talking about is called rehabilitation.That costs a massive amount of money and is better spent at the top of the cliff, not the bottom.
Terribly sorry to hear that you have bought the line that punishment where due is a bad thing.
I don't agree that if the victim says it is OK then that makes his release OK. We have a Government and a set of Statutes that set laws, no individual Joe Blow saying, "Yeah No Worries". That approach to the victim was a bigger blow to justice than letting the prisoner with cancer out.
I tend to agree with you on this one. That someone in the Justice department asked the victim his/her views on relaease is tantamount to a lack of moral integrity on the part of the Justice Department/official.
"So sorry family but the victim has said no." Need I say more on this..........other than the fact this guy came from a family that produced someone not only with a dishonest disposition to his fellow man but with a penchant for violence to boot.
Skyryder
Badcat
12th August 2005, 22:51
You know what I seriously think you all need to sit down and think about this cancer thing.
SURE he was put in jail for a reason but to die from Cancer then have you all start going on about karma ITS FUCKING PATHETIC!!!!!!!
Call me a bitch but I've sat and watched a good man who I loved with all my heart die from that shit, tell me what the hell did he do to derserve it????
Next thing you know you all may as well say that anyone who dies from it is getting "theirs back"
Last thing I have to say...
Try bringing karma into it after you watch someone YOU love die from cancer.
done it twice, mum and dad - both in the last 3 years.
sorry for your loss, but I still stand by what i said.
k
NotaGoth
12th August 2005, 23:00
done it twice, mum and dad - both in the last 3 years.
sorry for your loss, but I still stand by what i said.
k
So what did your parents do?
karma.. hmm...
sorry but good people as well as bad die from cancer.. karma ain't even in the picture..
karma ain't nothing to do with it.. if it was in the picture he woulda sat and rotted in jail rather than getting the easy way out....
*mellow now*
p.s sorry
badlieutenant
12th August 2005, 23:57
The justice you are talking about is called rehabilitation.That costs a massive amount of money and is better spent at the top of the cliff, not the bottom.
Terribly sorry to hear that you have bought the line that punishment where due is a bad thing.
I don't agree that if the victim says it is OK then that makes his release OK. We have a Government and a set of Statutes that set laws, no individual Joe Blow saying, "Yeah No Worries". That approach to the victim was a bigger blow to justice than letting the prisoner with cancer out.
jim2, pull your head out son. if I wanted to troll Id do it better than you.
my point was that compassionate leave shouldnt even be considered unless victim says ok (for lesser crimes Im talking here), as well taking into consideration the current prison system and how it works.
the rest was just a debate, but you know, we should get more people like you together to jump to conclusions and we would have a lynch mob :D at least then its not one persons opinion.
oh and for the record there jimbo2, Id put a bullet in the back of the head of serious offenders, cheaper and more humane for everyone.
badlieutenant
13th August 2005, 00:04
I tend to agree with you on this one. That someone in the Justice department asked the victim his/her views on relaease is tantamount to a lack of moral integrity on the part of the Justice Department/official.
"So sorry family but the victim has said no." Need I say more on this..........other than the fact this guy came from a family that produced someone not only with a dishonest disposition to his fellow man but with a penchant for violence to boot.
Skyryder
I forgot to mention the issues I had with this before jim2 jumped up and threw his toys out of the cot. You have to wonder how many of the family were present when he signed the forms ..........
James Deuce
13th August 2005, 00:38
jim2, pull your head out son. if I wanted to troll Id do it better than you.
my point was that compassionate leave shouldnt even be considered unless victim says ok (for lesser crimes Im talking here), as well taking into consideration the current prison system and how it works.
the rest was just a debate, but you know, we should get more people like you together to jump to conclusions and we would have a lynch mob :D at least then its not one persons opinion.
oh and for the record there jimbo2, Id put a bullet in the back of the head of serious offenders, cheaper and more humane for everyone.
Head isn't out. The victim should never be called on to make that sort of call. That's why we have laws, judges, and police, right or wrong. Compassion for a person who is demonstrably without an ethical framework is a waste of time. What you're suggesting is more akin to a lynch mob.
I wasn't trolling either, neither was I heated. I think you've got your nose out of joint over nothing much there.
badlieutenant
13th August 2005, 02:14
Head isn't out. The victim should never be called on to make that sort of call. That's why we have laws, judges, and police, right or wrong. Compassion for a person who is demonstrably without an ethical framework is a waste of time. What you're suggesting is more akin to a lynch mob.
agreed.
To clarify, I meant that in this situation and in the future should they do it again (which most likely they will).My assumption was this was already policy
the likely hood of said lynch mobs appearing at a victims house to "adjust" thier opinion seems the most likely outcome.
as for my thinking punishment was a bad thing ???? my point was that prison supposedly "fixes" people who do wrong, but it doesnt. I didnt say people shouldnt be put in prison. If you commit violent assualt, murder or fiddle with kids just to name a few things in the serious list, as far as im concerned you have ceased to have any value to the community. The cheapest option should be employed. A bullet, or maybe thrown out of a car into the new road barriers.
Actually it just occured to me you could kill two birds with one stone (excuse the pun) this way. Put riding gear on the crim and "test" the safety factor of the "cheese cutters" on campbell live :D
James Deuce
13th August 2005, 02:16
Misunderstanding then. Dats Ok. :)
spudchucka
13th August 2005, 05:22
One less piece of human scum to deal with. The world is just that little bit better for his passing.
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