Point to Ponder!

[ktee]

Some ramblings to chew over with your lunch.........

I have noticed that 'Bikers' wave and acknowledge other 'Bikers'.

I have noticed that 'Bikers' ignore people who acknowledge them from a 'cage'.

Does it follow that if you are not on your bike, then you are assumed not to be a biker. Or is this a bike code that I am not aware of. Or do bikers only look out for a friendly wave from fellow bikers.

I love all my forms of transport and will always acknowledge a biker from my 'car', not 'cage' as I don't feel convertibles fit into the same category.

So guys and gals, if you see somebody wave to you from a car or cage for no apparent reason, they are probably a 'Biker".

I hear you say
:whocares:
and you may be right.

[James Deuce]

IF we waved to every freaking car we'd need three arms to remain legally in control of our bikes.

Yes, you can get done for riding round with only one hand on the bars.

But waving at cars? That's not right.

Not at all.

[sels1]

If I saw someone waving at me from a car I would assume it was someone who new me and would wave back.
I do wave/nod/whatevers appropriate to other bikers

[ktee]

I can picture the three arms thing. lol. Thanks for your opinion.

[DemonWolf]

I'd generally nod or wave if I'm able.... at anyone that waves =)

[John]

I just cant see through the windows, if a car waves at me I wave back I probably know them anyway - another point to ponder is that we arent the road angels we are on the road for the same reason everyone else is to get something done. Although we have a hell of alot more fun - but i see your point its interesting for sure......

[Pancakes]

I always move to make room for bikes in the car and say hi. When I'm on the bike I acknowledge cars that move but I know they might not see me do it. Makes me feel like I helped someone though.

[Oakie]

Probably wouldn't see them waving unless they stuck their hand out the window to do so. If I noticed I'd probably wave back but only because I thought they must know me.

[Smorg]

Another point to ponder to is are you a waver or a nodder or both??
And i tend to give every bike i come across some form of acknowledgement (unless its a harley) but i find quite often the cruiser dont wave to the sports bikes and vice versa (there are acceptions of course)

[placidfemme]

IF we waved to every freaking car we'd need three arms to remain legally in control of our bikes.

Yes, you can get done for riding round with only one hand on the bars.

But waving at cars? That's not right.

Not at all.

Really? I've done that before, just to rest my arm... and adjust my riding style... so what can the cops do? Fine you?

*learns something new everyday*

But back on topic... I don't wave at cages...

Only van's full of school girls :love: (lol before you start there is actually a story behind that)

[vifferman]

I can picture the three arms thing. lol. Thanks for your opinion.
I've got it! I must invent a fake hand thingo (technical term) with a wobbly springie thingo (nuther tech term) inside, that suctions cups onto the top of a helmet, and has a biker glove on it. So it waves all the time (thus responding to anyone who you inadvertantly missed), and if you give your head a nod (in reponse to noddies), it waves more frantically! Brilliant!
Plus (also! as well!) it would make you safer, by forcing people to look at you, and would reduce the number of cars on the road because they'd crash into one another! :rofl:

Must go and scribble up a plan and patent it at once (if not sooner).

[vifferman]

Only van's full of school girls :love: (lol before you start there is actually a story behind that)
Please tell us the story. I like stories. :yes: And if it's about school girls, it's bound to be a goodun.

[placidfemme]

Please tell us the story. I like stories. :yes: And if it's about school girls, it's bound to be a goodun.

lol I was riding home over the harbour bridge and there was a van with school girls in it and because my visor is tinited they obviously couldn't tell that I was a chick and they were waving at me, and blowing kisses :love: I had the biggest grin on my face, and shot them a quick wave before hooning off into the sunset hehe

[John]

Please tell us the story. I like stories. :yes: And if it's about school girls, it's bound to be a goodun.
I remeber it tis a good'n

[vifferman]

lol I was riding home over the harbour bridge and there was a van with school girls in it and because my visor is tinited they obviously couldn't tell that I was a chick and they were waving at me, and blowing kisses
I like having a tinted visor. You can ignore people who are trying to get your attention, it makes you more sinister, and if you're like me, people can't tell how ugly you really are.

[Smorg]

lol I was riding home over the harbour bridge and there was a van with school girls in it and because my visor is tinited they obviously couldn't tell that I was a chick and they were waving at me, and blowing kisses :love: I had the biggest grin on my face, and shot them a quick wave before hooning off into the sunset hehe

Cheap thrills right it'd fix me for the day :rofl:

[Smorg]

I like having a tinted visor. You can ignore people who are trying to get your attention, it makes you more sinister, and if you're like me, people can't tell how ugly you really are.


I concur love the tints :Punk:

[Motu]

Back when biker meant more than just someone who rides any old bike - your everyday street attire marked you as a biker,you could be picked out at a distance by the way you walked,bike boots were not jandals....the bikers in cars noticed you....and you noticed them,because bikers drove cars that were noticable from a distance too.

There was no wave,but there was eye contact,and a lot of information was tranfered in the process.Sometimes an almost imperceptable nod of the head acknowledged recognition.If you were walking because your bike was broken down you would always be offered a lift....but never home,and you never said where you left the bike,but there was no harm in trying to extract this information,they most likely already knew all about your bike and where you lived.

I have look out for motorbikes stickers and motorcycle product stickers like Fly,Progrip,NGK etc on both my vehicles,I pull over when I see a bike behind....but never get a wave....I don't care,I mean...if they don't know who I am they are just fuckin nobodies as far as I'm concerned.

[placidfemme]

lol I had that grin on my face for AGES... even thinking back on it now still makes me smile :)

[kerryg]

Or how bloody old and grey. Dismounted from my gleaming steed,took my helmet off once and heard a bystander comment in surprise "look at that old barnacle" :mad: ('cos in my bike gear I look very youthful and vigorous until you see my gnarled and wizened head). Lucky I'm not sensitive :crybaby:

[Smorg]

Or how bloody old and grey. Dismounted from my gleaming steed,took my helmet off once and heard a bystander comment in surprise "look at that old barnacle" :mad: ('cos in my bike gear I look very youthful and vigorous until you see my gnarled and wizened head). Lucky I'm not sensitive :crybaby:

Classic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[vifferman]

Classic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Spoken like a true youngun.

It's disturbing growing older, because you don't feel any older inside, yet people judge you on your looks. I remember talking to my grandmother about this one day, and she said, "Y'know - I still feel the same way inside as I did when I was 16. In fact, one day recently, I was feeling all happy and young, and I caught sight of my reflection in a shop window. Just for a second, I didn't recognise myself, and thought, 'Who's that horrible old bag?!?' " :rofl:
She didn't want to get all old, senile and feeble, and intended to jump off one of the Hamilton bridges if she got that way, but fortunately she had a stroke one day, went into a coma, and lived for just a few days, just long enough for her children to say goodbye to her.

[John]

As long as you can still get the wee biker up life is good, my tank mutilates mine :\

[Pancakes]

Speaking of tanks and little bikers, do you guys know the story/urban legend of an unfortunate bike courier?

[Smorg]

Spoken like a true youngun.

It's disturbing growing older, because you don't feel any older inside, yet people judge you on your looks. I remember talking to my grandmother about this one day, and she said, "Y'know - I still feel the same way inside as I did when I was 16. In fact, one day recently, I was feeling all happy and young, and I caught sight of my reflection in a shop window. Just for a second, I didn't recognise myself, and thought, 'Who's that horrible old bag?!?' " :rofl:
She didn't want to get all old, senile and feeble, and intended to jump off one of the Hamilton bridges if she got that way, but fortunately she had a stroke one day, went into a coma, and lived for just a few days, just long enough for her children to say goodbye to her.


Jeez!!!!! It was the way he worded it that i thought was funny not a stab at the oldies at all :no:

[John]

Speaking of tanks and little bikers, do you guys know the story/urban legend of an unfortunate bike courier?
enlighten us wise one..

[Pancakes]

The guys bike, 750 Kwaka if I remember right is parked on Hobson St footpath and the boys are on the piss. Everyone decides to go to town and the bike needs putting away so Mr Drunk courier rips out into the middle of the 6 lane road, does a smokey 180 and guns it into his parking (praking?) space that is made out of concrete blocks with earth rammed behind them. Massive dent in the tank, forks poked, oh well, goes to town. Later he collapses and gets a disco ride to hospital to have a ball removed cos it climbed inside his body to complain. I heard the tank looked like it had been customised to fit Ron Jeremy "just right". Glad it wasn't me.

[oldrider]

We did a trip up north last summer and have to say apart from a few dick heads the other traffic on the roads were bloody great. Don't always wave to cages cos you can't see in them most times. Never loose the excitement when you see other bike/bikes though. Hope I never will. Cheers John.

[Smorg]

The guys bike, 750 Kwaka if I remember right is parked on Hobson St footpath and the boys are on the piss. Everyone decides to go to town and the bike needs putting away so Mr Drunk courier rips out into the middle of the 6 lane road, does a smokey 180 and guns it into his parking (praking?) space that is made out of concrete blocks with earth rammed behind them. Massive dent in the tank, forks poked, oh well, goes to town. Later he collapses and gets a disco ride to hospital to have a ball removed cos it climbed inside his body to complain. I heard the tank looked like it had been customised to fit Ron Jeremy "just right". Glad it wasn't me.


Ive got a better story and not urban either a guy i used to play rugby with dislocated his hip in a maul and the medics put it back in for him only problem was his testicle had traveled into the socket of the femur and pelvis and when the leg was popped back in........................you can guess the rest needless to say he screamed and fainted cool huh? :weird:

[ktee]

So who else wants a Wobbly-Springie-Thingo? I think Vifferman should go into business.

[Coyote]

I love all my forms of transport and will always acknowledge a biker from my 'car', not 'cage' as I don't feel convertibles fit into the same category.

Ok, call it a cot then

[Ixion]

IF we waved to every freaking car we'd need three arms to remain legally in control of our bikes.

Yes, you can get done for riding round with only one hand on the bars.

But waving at cars? That's not right.

Not at all.

How then are you to give stop and turn signals, as required by the Road Code. Especially on bikes which have no stop or indicator lamps. ?

[Ixion]

Some ramblings to chew over with your lunch.........

I have noticed that 'Bikers' wave and acknowledge other 'Bikers'.

I have noticed that 'Bikers' ignore people who acknowledge them from a 'cage'.

Does it follow that if you are not on your bike, then you are assumed not to be a biker. Or is this a bike code that I am not aware of. Or do bikers only look out for a friendly wave from fellow bikers.

I love all my forms of transport and will always acknowledge a biker from my 'car', not 'cage' as I don't feel convertibles fit into the same category.

So guys and gals, if you see somebody wave to you from a car or cage for no apparent reason, they are probably a 'Biker".

I hear you say
:whocares:
and you may be right.


I'll acknowledge a wave from a car, and wave to them if they've been considerate or helpful.

Main reason cage-wavers wouldn't get acknowledged I think is just that bikers aren't expecting it, and don't notice. Bikes you see and look at , so if the rider waves you see it. Cages are just mobile hazards, not anticipating waves from them.

[James Deuce]

How then are you to give stop and turn signals, as required by the Road Code. Especially on bikes which have no stop or indicator lamps. ?

I have been stopped and cautioned for riding with only one hand on the bars.

I suggest you take it up with the woman that stopped me rather using rather supplying such an arcane line of reasoning.

[Ixion]

I have been stopped and cautioned for riding with only one hand on the bars.

I suggest you take it up with the woman that stopped me rather using rather supplying such an arcane line of reasoning.
I'll bet said woman had never ridden a bike. Not exactly arcane , there's a goodly number of bikes still on the road that don't have indicators or stop lamps. And if so, the law requires you to give a hand signal.

So I'd argue that one if I were stopped. I still give hand stop signals on occasion (despite having a stop lamp). To mean either "I am STOPPING. RIGHT NOW. I am NOT just slowing down"; or to courteously indicate to oncoming traffic (who cannot see my stop lamp) that I am stopping, and they may proceed.

(Obviously, TWO hands off the bars would be another matter)

[James Deuce]

I'll bet said woman had never ridden a bike. Not exactly arcane , there's a goodly number of bikes still on the road that don't have indicators or stop lamps. And if so, the law requires you to give a hand signal.

So I'd argue that one if I were stopped. I still give hand stop signals on occasion (despite having a stop lamp). To mean either "I am STOPPING. RIGHT NOW. I am NOT just slowing down"; or to courteously indicate to oncoming traffic (who cannot see my stop lamp) that I am stopping, and they may proceed.

(Obviously, TWO hands off the bars would be another matter)

It was a bike cop.

[Virago]

I have to spend most of my road time in the cage. I gave up waving to bikers, as at best they would just look at me like I was insane or something.

I would also give a "thumbs-up" for a particularly nice machine, but realised that at a quick glance it could be mistaken for a different type of single-digit gesture....

When on the bike I often wave at kids in cars, they always seem to love it.

[SARGE]

Back when biker meant more than just someone who rides any old bike - your everyday street attire marked you as a biker,you could be picked out at a distance by the way you walked,bike boots were not jandals....the bikers in cars noticed you....and you noticed them,because bikers drove cars that were noticable from a distance too.

There was no wave,but there was eye contact,and a lot of information was tranfered in the process.Sometimes an almost imperceptable nod of the head acknowledged recognition.If you were walking because your bike was broken down you would always be offered a lift....but never home,and you never said where you left the bike,but there was no harm in trying to extract this information,they most likely already knew all about your bike and where you lived.

I have look out for motorbikes stickers and motorcycle product stickers like Fly,Progrip,NGK etc on both my vehicles,

i came up in the same world man.. you could just TELL a guy ( girl) was a biker by the walk sometimes..

as far as the bike related stickers.. have you noticed how many twat boy racers wear the Fox hoodies and stick the Fox stuff all over the Hooptie WRX's anymore?.. its getting like Dickies.. ( by the way,.. back in the States, Dickies cost $10 a pair and are worn only by the finest sanitation engineers..)

[SARGE]

I'll acknowledge a wave from a car, and wave to them if they've been considerate or helpful.

Main reason cage-wavers wouldn't get acknowledged I think is just that bikers aren't expecting it, and don't notice. Bikes you see and look at , so if the rider waves you see it. Cages are just mobile hazards, not anticipating waves from them.


i always wave to other 2 wheeled peeps..sport, HD's, Bimmers, Wings, scooters ( unless they are the Urban scumbag dickheads with the Vespa's , :scooter: tweed coats and scarves.. carrying a laptop bag.. those clowns arent bikers .. they are 2 wheeled busses..)

AND ( i may be one of the few who do it looks like ) wave or thumbs up to a car who has moved over so i can split.. those guys are my hero's ( probably incog bikies..) :first:

i NEVER wave or acknowlege the douchebags on the mini-choppers.. i was sitting at the Lincoln / Universal drive intersection a few days ago , coming home from work and these 2 kids( 17 or so..) on the Mini-chops rolled up next to me and hit me with the "Sup Bro?.." :tugger: ..
all i could envision was.. " if i kick the one closest to me.. he will domino into the other one.." :kick:

then the #$%^ light changed.. :brick:
the moral is .. NEVER THINK.. DO!!

[JohnBoy]

on the bike i dont wave to nothing but bikes (unless you count single or two finger waves :motu: ) however when i was towing the bike down to race meets i waved to bikes then. cant say why i do it like that, it just seems to happen... wierd :weird:

[Ixion]

It was a bike cop.

A woman bike cop ? That's interesting, didn't know there were any. She certainly should know better !

[Pixie]

lol I was riding home over the harbour bridge and there was a van with school girls in it and because my visor is tinited they obviously couldn't tell that I was a chick and they were waving at me, and blowing kisses :love: I had the biggest grin on my face, and shot them a quick wave before hooning off into the sunset hehe
How do you know they couldn't tell that you were a chick? :devil2:

[Pixie]

Ive got a better story and not urban either a guy i used to play rugby with dislocated his hip in a maul and the medics put it back in for him only problem was his testicle had traveled into the socket of the femur and pelvis and when the leg was popped back in........................you can guess the rest needless to say he screamed and fainted cool huh? :weird:
What's that called? WTS ( Wandering Testicle Syndrome)?
How the hell did it get all the way over there?