Sir Paul who? Knighthoods.

[awa355]

Does Paul Holmes deserve a knighthood? Does anyone in this day and age?

Personally I think these 'honours' are a left over relic from another time. A payback for old mates?

The titles given to the nz honours that labour bought in were given such gooble de gook names that they meant nothing to me.

[FJRider]

Everybody knows HIS name ... anybody (of importance) know yours .. ??

Was it for "Services to Broadcasting" ... or "Services to Yachting" .... ??

[BoristheBiter]

Everybody knows HIS name ... anybody (of importance) know yours .. ??

Was it for "Services to Broadcasting" ... or "Services to Yachting" .... ??

Then hookers should all get a knighthood as I bet they have serviced more then Paul (the cheaky darky) Holmes ever will.

[oldrider]

We thank Paul Homes for his support of the Special Olympians and their games but a Knighthood for Broadcasting? The man was a bumbling twat! :facepalm:

[Zedder]

Knighthoods? Ffs talk about archaic, get rid of the stupid system. Also, the Royals coming here - $700 odd grand for Charles and gorilla to come here. What the?

[300weatherby]

Knighthoods.....

They should only be for those who have given, SERVICE TO HUMANITY!!!!! - not paid entertainment, or weath driven top of the ladder business type

What value exactly, does an "honour" bestowed on you by a bunch of lying, cheating, double dealing, snout in the taxpayers pockets, politicians have anyway?

[mashman]

Aye, they're up there with the Nobel Awards. Obama receiving his for his efforts in regards to peace talks in the Middle East :killingme.

[Akzle]

Sir Akzle.:second:

[FJRider]

Sir Akzle.:second:

put to the sword ... maybe ...

[JimO]

old Holmsey wont make it to easter by the look of him

[Woodman]

Oh I dunno, he was at the top of the game for a long time. Anyone who excels in their chosen path within reason should be recognised. Oh and celebrity seems to help but it shouldn't.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Jerry Mataparae yes

Paul Holmes? not so much.

[Coolz]

When I lived south of the Bombays we used to call him 'The Dwarf from the Norf'

I used to listen to him on the radio in my truck at 6 in the morning then see him on the telly when I got home at 7 in the evening. So at least he's put in the hours, unlike some. Got to respect him for that.

[scumdog]

Gag me with a spoon - the man's full of his own shit...

[Berries]

I used to listen to him on the radio in my truck at 6 in the morning then see him on the telly when I got home at 7 in the evening. So at least he's put in the hours, unlike some. Got to respect him for that.
Yeah, the guy who cleans out our septic tank does the same.

To repeat what has already been said, FFS.

[Grubber]

Oh I dunno, he was at the top of the game for a long time. Anyone who excels in their chosen path within reason should be recognised. Oh and celebrity seems to help but it shouldn't.

I been in my game for near on 38 years, shouldn't i get a "sir" with my name.
I"m damn good at it too, i've made many a person a millionaire along the way.:first:
Many a charity has been supported through my efforts too i might add!

[Tigadee]

We get called "sir" everytime we walk into Macs, isn't that good enough?

[imdying]

On here we can see a perfect example of why peasants aren't involved in the decision making.

[unstuck]

Would he be getting one if he wasnt seriously ill?:no:
Paul Holmes is my brother.:devil2:

[Banditbandit]

Sir Akzle.:second:

One of the knights who say Ni ????


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UbtcmjfKa8

[Murray]

Gag me with a spoon - the man's full of his own shit...

Pretty hard to be full of someone else's shit

[SS90]

Paul Holmes receiving a flippen Knighthood? This is a sad day for New Zealand.

Services to broadcasting?
This man was the highest paid Government employee for many a year, he clearly did it for the money, if not he would have never taken the roles he did, and instead reported unbiased stories to show his integrity, instead of fronting a show that had major car manufacturers as sponsors (who pulled their cash and brand when he went too far in one of his many racial tirades (because I was "tired" he blubbed)

Services to broadcasting are different to living fat off taxpayers hard earned, and if raising a Meth addicted teen is a pre request for honors these days, then there are a few dudes in West Auckalnd that should be higher up the list.

He was a constant buffoon, crashing aircraft that us plebs could only dream of sitting in, let alone own, paid for from his far too generous pay packet, that we had no choice in either who it went to, or how much he was paid.

The poison Gnome now wants us to hold him in our hearts, now that his Ass cancer has come back "aggressively"..... Weeeellllllll, Pauly boy, all your money can't save ya now huh, you want to be remembered as a "nuggety bugger" huh?, sorry pal, I will remember you as a weasely little piss stain that stood high and mighty and passed judgment on many a person, the whole time your little girl was sucking head hunter cock for P, your son was being bullied at school for having a shit sister, you had a pathetic affair with a girl too young to even remember the original A Team, and the whole time smugly took Millions fro the public purse.

Fuck you Paul Holmes. Give back the Knighthood.

[Swoop]

The only thing paul holmes deserves is a fucking good kicking.

Obnoxious little retarded narcissistic cunt.

[imdying]

This man was the highest paid Government employee for many a year, he clearly did it for the money, if not he would have never taken the roles he did, and instead reported unbiased stories to show his integrity, instead of fronting a show that had major car manufacturers as sponsors (who pulled their cash and brand when he went too far in one of his many racial tirades (because I was "tired" he blubbed)

Services to broadcasting are different to living fat off taxpayers hard earned, and if raising a Meth addicted teen is a pre request for honors these days, then there are a few dudes in West Auckalnd that should be higher up the list.

He was a constant buffoon, crashing aircraft that us plebs could only dream of sitting in, let alone own, paid for from his far too generous pay packet, that we had no choice in either who it went to, or how much he was paid.

The poison Gnome now wants us to hold him in our hearts, now that his Ass cancer has come back "aggressively"..... Weeeellllllll, Pauly boy, all your money can't save ya now huh, you want to be remembered as a "nuggety bugger" huh?, sorry pal, I will remember you as a weasely little piss stain that stood high and mighty and passed judgment on many a person, the whole time your little girl was sucking head hunter cock for P, your son was being bullied at school for having a shit sister, you had a pathetic affair with a girl too young to even remember the original A Team, and the whole time smugly took Millions fro the public purse.

Fuck you Paul Holmes. Give back the Knighthood.You do an excellent job of coming off equal parts bitter and jealous :laugh:

I'm guessing your pay packet ain't too flash?

[SS90]

You do an excellent job of coming off equal parts bitter and jealous :laugh:

I'm guessing your pay packet ain't too flash?

Since Im not paid from the taxpayer, no taxpayer has a right to have an opinion on how much I get paid, Paul Holmes on the other hand..........

[skippa1]

You do an excellent job of coming off equal parts bitter and jealous :laugh:

I'm guessing your pay packet ain't too flash?

what ^ said

[skippa1]

Paul Holmes receiving a flippen Knighthood? This is a sad day for New Zealand.

Services to broadcasting?
This man was the highest paid Government employee for many a year, he clearly did it for the money, if not he would have never taken the roles he did, and instead reported unbiased stories to show his integrity, instead of fronting a show that had major car manufacturers as sponsors (who pulled their cash and brand when he went too far in one of his many racial tirades (because I was "tired" he blubbed)

Services to broadcasting are different to living fat off taxpayers hard earned, and if raising a Meth addicted teen is a pre request for honors these days, then there are a few dudes in West Auckalnd that should be higher up the list.

He was a constant buffoon, crashing aircraft that us plebs could only dream of sitting in, let alone own, paid for from his far too generous pay packet, that we had no choice in either who it went to, or how much he was paid.

The poison Gnome now wants us to hold him in our hearts, now that his Ass cancer has come back "aggressively"..... Weeeellllllll, Pauly boy, all your money can't save ya now huh, you want to be remembered as a "nuggety bugger" huh?, sorry pal, I will remember you as a weasely little piss stain that stood high and mighty and passed judgment on many a person, the whole time your little girl was sucking head hunter cock for P, your son was being bullied at school for having a shit sister, you had a pathetic affair with a girl too young to even remember the original A Team, and the whole time smugly took Millions fro the public purse.

Fuck you Paul Holmes. Give back the Knighthood.

you need a hug or some sympathy or something? :violin: sounds like you are a bit bitter about his successes

[imdying]

Since Im not paid from the taxpayer, no taxpayer has a right to have an opinion on how much I get paid, Paul Holmes on the other hand..........He's only taking a little lick from the public trough when you compare him to all the Maoris on welfare with their snouts well in it. At least with him we got something to laugh at for our money.

I still don't know why the money makes you wail so...

[skippa1]

Pretty hard to be full of someone else's shit

apart from the old 2 girls one......

[Zedder]

On here we can see a perfect example of why peasants aren't involved in the decision making.

Peasants, as you call them, disappeared many years ago. If you mean tenant farmers (the proper title) they've never been involved in the discision making of who gets knighted. They've probably got way better things (real) to do anyway.

[imdying]

If you mean tenant farmersI mean typical New Zealand nobodies.

[unstuck]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/znVvX50cuj4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>:devil2::devil2:

[Zedder]

I mean typical New Zealand nobodies.

How dare you talk about our fellow NZers that way...

[imdying]

Boy do I have bad news for you... we're all peasants mate.

[Zedder]

Boy do I have bad news for you... we're all peasants mate.

But we can't be, we're not all tenant farmers.

[Banditbandit]

He's only taking a little lick from the public trough when you compare him to all the Maoris on welfare with their snouts well in it. At least with him we got something to laugh at for our money.

I still don't know why the money makes you wail so...

You mean like his Maori drug addict daughter?

[Banditbandit]

Peasants, as you call them, disappeared many years ago. If you mean tenant farmers (the proper title) they've never been involved in the discision making of who gets knighted. They've probably got way better things (real) to do anyway.

Yes .. like deciding which of the nobility (the knights) get their heads lopped off


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHVo0hJhnK4

[imdying]

But we can't be, we're not all tenant farmers.Funny, you cling to a dictionary definition just like a peasant would...

[imdying]

You mean like his Maori drug addict daughter?See, value for money right there.

[Zedder]

[QUOTE=Banditbandit;1130466909]Yes .. like deciding which of the nobility (the knights) get their heads lopped off

Those were the days, ya could go to a beheading but be home to thrash the kids and wife before bedtime...

[Zedder]

Funny, you cling to a dictionary definition just like a peasant would...

But I'm trying to tell you, there are no peasants!! You've got to get over this mate, it's going to kill you. Oops, my apologies you're dying.

[imdying]

But I'm trying to tell you, there are no peasants!!Sure there are, go look in the mirror. Wave if you like, or maybe take a selfie and share it here on the internerd. Next you'll be telling me that selfie isn't even a word :rolleyes:

[Zedder]

Sure there are, go look in the mirror. Wave if you like, or maybe take a selfie and share it here on the internerd. Next you'll be telling me that selfie isn't even a word :rolleyes:

What, do ya think you're a Boss or something? Hang on, I see where you have it written.

How can you be a boss when you said all NZers were like peasants.

[imdying]

What, do ya think you're a Boss or something? Hang on, I see where you have it written.

How can you be a boss when you said all NZers were like peasants.I think it's a facebook related pictionary meaning 'like a boss'. If that confuses you, my Disney montage would've fucked you right up. Not all NZers are (not like) peasants, just the nobodies. Make peace with it, build a bridge, whatever... it's either that or make sufficient effort lift yourself above that. Why you or anyone else would want to be a tall poppy in this country through, I'll never know :laugh: (did you read the rubbish in this thread?)

[skippa1]

How can you be a boss when you said all NZers were like peasants.

Its the first thing they teach at boss school, I should know, I am one




peasant:msn-wink:

[Zedder]

I think it's a facebook related pictionary meaning 'like a boss'. If that confuses you, my Disney montage would've fucked you right up. Not all NZers are (not like) peasants, just the nobodies. Make peace with it, build a bridge, whatever... it's either that or make sufficient effort lift yourself above that. Why you or anyone else would want to be a tall poppy in this country through, I'll never know :laugh: (did you read the rubbish in this thread?)

Lol, love it!

[Zedder]

Its the first thing they teach at boss school, I should know, I am one




peasant:msn-wink:

Not another one ffs.

[skippa1]

Not another one ffs.


shut up:nono:


fuckin peasant:oi-grr:

[Zedder]

shut up:nono:


fuckin peasant:oi-grr:

I know my rights and invoke the NZ Human Rights Act (1993) as well as the NZ Bill of Rights (1990) for free speech/writing.

The coming revolution will sort you out, I fart in your general direction.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Hey, so I have a question:

How exactly is Millie Elder Paul Holmes' daughter?

[imdying]

Hey, so I have a question:

How exactly is Millie Elder Paul Holmes' daughter?
Well, when a Mummy loves a Daddy....

[Zedder]

Hey, so I have a question:

How exactly is Millie Elder Paul Holmes' daughter?

Bugger off, that's far too sensible a question for this thread.

She's an adopted daughter afaik, Hini Elder's offspring.

[HenryDorsetCase]

She's hot. I'd totally hit that.

[Zedder]

She's hot. I'd totally hit that.

Before she stopped taking "P" you would've probably got a "hit" off her.

[superjackal]

Gotta say, I changed the channel everytime he was on. I do feel sorry for him for his cancer. Deserves a knighthood? Not in my opinion.

Aren't knights supposed to go round slaying dragons and rescuing damsels? We should at least get a sword fight or joust with the modern knighthoods.

We still have an army, perhaps knighthoods should still be awarded for valor? More worthy than commentating some stupid yacht race.

[Banditbandit]

But I'm trying to tell you, there are no peasants!!

As soon as you're born they make you feel small
By giving you no time instead of it all
Till the pain is so big you feel nothing at all
A working class hero is something to be

They hurt you at home and they hit you at school
They hate you if you're clever and they despise a fool
Till you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules
A working class hero is something to be

When they've tortured and scared you for twenty-odd years
Then they expect you to pick a career
When you can't really function you're so full of fear
A working class hero is something to be

Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV
And you think you're so clever and classless and free
But you're still fucking peasants as far as I can see

John Lennon - Working Class Hero

[Banditbandit]

shut up:nono:


fuckin peasant:oi-grr:

Look .. see the violence inherent in the system !!!


http://www.spunk.org/texts/humour/sp000621.txt

[Zedder]

As soon as you're born they make you feel small
By giving you no time instead of it all
Till the pain is so big you feel nothing at all
A working class hero is something to be

They hurt you at home and they hit you at school
They hate you if you're clever and they despise a fool
Till you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules
A working class hero is something to be

When they've tortured and scared you for twenty-odd years
Then they expect you to pick a career
When you can't really function you're so full of fear
A working class hero is something to be

Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV
And you think you're so clever and classless and free
But you're still fucking peasants as far as I can see

John Lennon - Working Class Hero

Ah yes, words of wisdom indeed from someone who got very rich from writing songs like this and rather dead suddenly because of them.

[Banditbandit]

Ah yes, words of wisdom indeed from someone who got very rich from writing songs like this

So - you recognise the wisdom of the words .. why is the source important?


and rather dead suddenly because of them.

See the violence inherent in the system ..

[Akzle]

One of the knights who say Ni ????

i demand.... a shrubbery!


The only thing paul holmes deserves is a fucking good kicking.

Hopefully he will die soon. Obnoxious little retarded narcissistic cunt.
yeah. and bringing a knigthood forward? who's agenda does that serve, coulda given it to the cunt posthumously.. probably wouldn't have had to wait too long either.

I know my rights and invoke the NZ Human Rights Act (1993) as well as the NZ Bill of Rights (1990) for free speech/writing.

The coming revolution will sort you out, I fart in your general direction.

YAFM. we're going to kill you, in the coming revolution. relying on statutory law for your rights is fucking stupid, as it really only exists to remove them from you.

[bluninja]

yeah. and bringing a knigthood forward? who's agenda does that serve, coulda given it to the cunt posthumously.. probably wouldn't have had to wait too long either.



A knighthood can only be given to a living person and ceases on their death :bleh:

[Banditbandit]

A knighthood can only be given to a living person and ceases on their death :bleh:

Unfortunately not - the last hereditary knighthood created was for Margaret Thatcher's husband Dennis - who was made a baronet - his and maggie's son Mark now holds that title ... but it is rare to grant hereditary knighthood.

[Zedder]

So - you recognise the wisdom of the words .. why is the source important?



See the violence inherent in the system ..

The irony of it BB. Lennon was making a valid statement however, according to Chapman his killer, he made himself out to be a too holier than thou over the years (and more popular than Jesus according to a quote in a newspaper) so he killed him.

There's other facets too it as well such as Chapman wanting to be famous but having to kill a pop star to do it.

[Akzle]

A knighthood can only be given to a living person and ceases on their death :bleh:

you spelled "pink" wrong.

[Zedder]

[COLOR="#139922"]YAFM. we're going to kill you, in the coming revolution. relying on statutory law for your rights is fucking stupid, as it really only exists to remove them from you.

Lighten the fuck up. It's a joke.

[Banditbandit]

Lighten the fuck up. It's a joke.

Yeah .. Akzle's definitely a joke

[imdying]

I lol'd... mind you I read it in my mind with the voice of one of those teenage scrotes that think the pigs can't touch them :laugh: "I know my rights...."

[caseye]

Homws'ey is a rather tall poppy it would seem.
Lots of us obviously don't like him one little bit.
I never used to, far too opinionated.
Knew it all.
Spoke funny and could never hold a train of thought.
However over the last few years I've seen Paul Holmes become a proper father, someone who has used his not too insignificant influence to help others,namely Westpac Rescue ( the same guys who usually come along to pick up broken motorcyclists) The Para Olympians and many others who are in his debt for many tens of thousands of dollars, man hours and other less tangible things.
While money and influence should not mean someone is knighted.
Deeds most definitely should.
Yes there are others perhaps more deserving, but it's the system we have and I'd much rather see Holmsey get his gong before he pops off than many other notable fraudsters and shiets who most definitely have done absolutely sod all for me,mine or the general public at large.
I'd piss on him if he was on fire, go out of my way to shake his hand, probably not, wish him dead? Na.
He's done his best to pay it forward, knowing he has little time left he's gone even harder to help others, you barstards can't take that away from him.
on Ya Sir Paul, far as I'm concerned you have earned the right. I'd happily greet you with the words , hello Sir Paul, you rascal.

[Zedder]

I lol'd... mind you I read it in my mind with the voice of one of those teenage scrotes that think the pigs can't touch them :laugh: "I know my rights...."

Cool, that's how it was intended. I was laughing to myself as I wrote it.

[Zedder]

Look .. see the violence inherent in the system !!!


http://www.spunk.org/texts/humour/sp000621.txt

Great stuff BB.

On a serious note, I was doing some background reading about American gun laws etc and it seems that due to "inherent violence in the Americian way of life" it'll never be safe guns or no guns. How's that for fucked up?

[300weatherby]

Gotta say, I changed the channel everytime he was on. I do feel sorry for him for his cancer. Deserves a knighthood? Not in my opinion.

Aren't knights supposed to go round slaying dragons and rescuing damsels? We should at least get a sword fight or joust with the modern knighthoods.

We still have an army, perhaps knighthoods should still be awarded for valor? More worthy than commentating some stupid yacht race.

Fuck right off, right there, I agreed with you till you said we have an army...... you can't call the NCO bleeding, disfunctional, over officer staffed pathetic replica of what once was, an ARMY!

[mashman]

Unfortunately not - the last hereditary knighthood created was for Margaret Thatcher's husband Dennis - who was made a baronet - his and maggie's son Mark now holds that title ... but it is rare to grant hereditary knighthood.

Did he ever get banged up for his part in the Sierra Leone coup? or are they still after him? Mind you he'd be in good company with Sir Mugabe and Sir Pinochet

[MD]

Wow, so much bitterness towards a dying man because he has been acknowledged for trying to be good at something. Maybe everyone should be mediocre in life.

A man who found a career he enjoyed, work hard at it, became popular for it, and oh how horrible, he got paid well while doing it. Personally I didn't like his shows much or his style or attitude. But I wouldn't deny him a simple acknowledgement that he 'poked his head above the trenches' and gave it a go. There are lots of famous sports people that iritate us, but that still doesn't mean we can't admit they have outstanding skills/talent at whatever it is.

So many scum bags waste oyxgen and taxpayers money. Look at the arsehole mob at Kawhia egging on a worthless parasite crim to attack a Policeman so they would be gratified with violence as entertainment. I doubt Sir Paul ever did anything remotely harmful like that to anyone. We are surrounded by examples of bad people doing bad things. We need positive examples of good, there aren't many to savour unfortunately. But lets hate Paul Holmes and wish him dead because he got rich doing a job he liked and had the gall to help others at times on the way.

All sorts of jobs have accolades for those that excelled. Like Actors get Oscars. Singers get awards, industries have awards, exporters get awards and so on. Why shouldn't we have knighthoods so we can TRY and award those who do good as a positive reinforcement of behaviour we deperately need more of. Or should we all join the Kawhia mob and be nothing but negatives hating all that dare do better than mediocre.

Congrats Sir Paul

[imdying]

Look you cunts. I took to supporting the opposing view as a way to amuse myself on a boring afternoon... if you're all gonna start defending Sir Paul you'll just take all the fun out of it for me :Oi:

[scumdog]

I mean typical New Zealand nobodies.

You mean we have other than nobodies in NZ??<_<

[scumdog]

Great stuff BB.

On a serious note, I was doing some background reading about American gun laws etc and it seems that due to "inherent violence in the Americian way of life" it'll never be safe guns or no guns. How's that for fucked up?

Terrible - the place sounds just like the Middle East....:shifty:

[imdying]

You mean we have other than nobodies in NZ??<_<Rutherford and Britten woke up the world in their respective fields :bleh::Police:

[scumdog]

. we're going to kill you, in the coming revolution. [/COLOR]

That revolution will be right after the time machine has been perfected and perpetual motion is in use...well the revolution is as realistic a proposition as the other two at present...

[Akzle]

Terrible - the place sounds just like the Middle East....:shifty:

the "middle east" got along just fine until white cunts wanted to go there...

[scumdog]

Rutherford and Britten woke up the world in their respective fields :bleh::Police:


Who & who???:confused:

[Zedder]

Who & who???:confused:

Ffs, when you jumped naked out your window back in 2008 to catch that thief, did you pass through a loss-of-NZ-history portal or something?

[caseye]

Ffs, when you jumped naked out your window back in 2008 to catch that thief, did you pass through a loss-of-NZ-history portal or something?

Na the barbed wire did it to his nads! LOL, he knows, I'm sure.

[Coolz]

Yeah, the guy who cleans out our septic tank does the same.

.

I bet the truck stops at your place often.

[scumdog]

Ffs, when you jumped naked out your window back in 2008 to catch that thief, did you pass through a loss-of-NZ-history portal or something?

Trollin' again huh?

[Zedder]

Trollin' again huh?

A bit of windup SD I'll admit. Seriously though, I was in Canada back then when it came on the news, I was impressed actually.

It came up on here again last year as well.

[Berries]

I bet the truck stops at your place often.
Twice daily, it's a small tank.

[Banditbandit]

Great stuff BB.

On a serious note, I was doing some background reading about American gun laws etc and it seems that due to "inherent violence in the Americian way of life" it'll never be safe guns or no guns. How's that for fucked up?

Yeah. As a country it's pretty fucked ... it's a great theme park tho' ...

[Banditbandit]

the "middle east" got along just fine until white cunts wanted to go there...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Read your bible - the Middle East was pretty fucked before "white cunts" even worked out it was there .. How many people did Jehovah destroy? Not to mention the Israelites and Babylonians, the Egyptians, the Assyrians ... It's been a bloody battle ground for thousands of years ... without the help of any whitey

[Akzle]

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Read your bible - the Middle East was pretty fucked before "white cunts" even worked out it was there .. How many people did Jehovah destroy? Not to mention the Israelites and Babylonians, the Egyptians, the Assyrians ... It's been a bloody battle ground for thousands of years ... without the help of any whitey

yeah, but noone outside the middle east pretended to give a fuck. or tryed interferring in the righteous name of bush // oil // god, whatever.

[Edbear]

the "middle east" got along just fine until white cunts wanted to go there...


yeah, but noone outside the middle east pretended to give a fuck. or tryed interferring in the righteous name of bush // oil // god, whatever.

He was contradicting your assertion that the Middle East, "was getting along just fine..." :doh:

[Big Dave]

'Cheeky darkie.'

Nuff said.

[Banditbandit]

He was contradicting your assertion that the Middle East, "was getting along just fine..." :doh:

He's a turkey .. I could have said the people whio got killed in that region probably gave a fuck .. but he's just not worth the time and energy - not even worth trolling ...

[Zedder]

He's a turkey .. I could have said the people whio got killed in that region probably gave a fuck .. but he's just not worth the time and energy - not even worth trolling ...

For future reference regarding energy consumption: Purely as an example, a 70kg person uses 1.7 calories per minute typing.

[Banditbandit]

For future reference regarding energy consumption: Purely as an example, a 70kg person uses 1.7 calories per minute typing.

Let's see .. my typing speed is more than 30 words a minute .. more like 40 words (I have been officially tested in a previous life) .. so I used about 1.3 calories on that post - Fuck I still need that walk around the block to help us up the lunch calories ... typing on KBer is never going to help me loss weight.

[awa355]

typing on KBer is never going to help me loss weight.

It should do, Broadening your horizons by seeing the world as others on KB see it, Expanding your understanding of other cultures and developing a new awareness and respect for others through social intercourse?:laugh::laugh::laugh:

All takes energy :apumpin:

And you thought KB was all talking bullshit about bikes:laugh::laugh:

[jasonu]

Yeah. As a country it's pretty fucked ... it's a great theme park tho' ...

Been there have you? (a 2 week trip to Disneyland doesn't count)

[scumdog]

Been there have you? (a 2 week trip to Disneyland doesn't count)

Mwahaha...:shutup:

[slofox]

Saw a paper a couple of days old talking about this parsnickular Night Hood..."I want everyone to call me Sir!"

Ok then. I can do that...

Fuck Off...SIR.

[Zedder]

Saw a paper a couple of days old talking about this parsnickular Night Hood..."I want everyone to call me Sir!"

Ok then. I can do that...

Fuck Off...SIR.

Maybe spelt CUR...

[sugilite]

Sir Paul, a long series of pregnant pauses that never gave birth. :rolleyes:

[GSVR]

Sir Edmond Hillary
Sir Stephen Tindall
Sir Micheal Hill
Sir Peter Blake
Sir Bob Jones
Sir Mad Butcher
Sir Paul Holmes

Now which ones would you pick as worthy ?


In April 2000 the new Labour Prime Minister Helen Clark announced that knighthoods and damehoods were abolished, and the order's statutes were amended accordingly. Between 2000 and 2009, the two highest awards were called Principal Companion (PCNZM) and Distinguished Companion (DCNZM), and recipients did not receive the title "Sir" or "Dame"

In 2009, Prime Minister John Key restored the honours to their pre-April 2000 state. Principal Companions and Distinguished Companions (85 people in total) were given the option to convert their awards into Knighthoods or Damehoods.The restoration was welcomed by the Monarchy New Zealand. The option has been taken up by 72 of those affected, including rugby great Colin Meads. Former Labour MP Margaret Shields was one of those who accepted a Damehood, despite receiving a letter from former Prime Minister Helen Clark "setting out why Labour had abolished the titles and saying she hoped she would not accept one"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_Order_of_Merit

[300weatherby]

Sir Edmond Hillary
Sir Stephen Tindall
Sir Micheal Hill
Sir Peter Blake
Sir Bob Jones
Sir Mad Butcher
Sir Paul Holmes

Now which ones would you pick as worthy ?


In April 2000 the new Labour Prime Minister Helen Clark announced that knighthoods and damehoods were abolished, and the order's statutes were amended accordingly. Between 2000 and 2009, the two highest awards were called Principal Companion (PCNZM) and Distinguished Companion (DCNZM), and recipients did not receive the title "Sir" or "Dame"

In 2009, Prime Minister John Key restored the honours to their pre-April 2000 state. Principal Companions and Distinguished Companions (85 people in total) were given the option to convert their awards into Knighthoods or Damehoods.The restoration was welcomed by the Monarchy New Zealand. The option has been taken up by 72 of those affected, including rugby great Colin Meads. Former Labour MP Margaret Shields was one of those who accepted a Damehood, despite receiving a letter from former Prime Minister Helen Clark "setting out why Labour had abolished the titles and saying she hoped she would not accept one"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_Order_of_Merit

Hillary made a large portion of his life about giving service to humanity, shame it wasn't in New Zealand, but nevertheless, he was of BENIFIT TO MANKIND!, the rest, glory (Blake) or riches seeking self serving business tycoons.

A knighthood of genuine value, of genuine honour, should be beyond the reach of money or political influence.

[oldrider]

In April 2000 the new Labour Prime Minister Helen Clark announced that knighthoods and damehoods were abolished, and the order's statutes were amended accordingly.

In 2009, Prime Minister John Key restored the honours to their pre-April 2000 state.

Neither of them had an actual mandate to do any of that but (IMHO) Helen Clark was the worst thing that ever became prime minister of this country anyway! :facepalm:

[SS90]

Hillary made a large portion of his life about giving service to humanity, shame it wasn't in New Zealand, but nevertheless, he was of BENIFIT TO MANKIND!, the rest, glory (Blake) or riches seeking self serving business tycoons.

A knighthood of genuine value, of genuine honour, should be beyond the reach of money or political influence.

I agree with this whole heartedley, I personally, I believe that Peter Leach deserves to be called Sir (title or not) the amount of his own time
And money he gives to local causes is amazing, and Ed Hillary, he did more good than most others on the list combined.

Paul Holmes? Bah!

[pritch]

Sir Edmond Hillary
Sir Stephen Tindall
Sir Micheal Hill
Sir Peter Blake
Sir Bob Jones
Sir Mad Butcher
Sir Paul Holmes


Most got it for making money (and some for supporting a political party?) but along the way they created jobs for people who may have been pleased to have had the oportunity. Some philanthropy doesn't hurt, but no need to over egg the pudding.

Sir Peter Blake was undoubtedly a great sailor - but he was a completely crap gunfighter.

Sir Paul Holmes' knighthood doesn't bother me, there have probably about as many less deserving as there are more deserving.

[Banditbandit]

Is this SIR cunt not dead yet?

There .. fixed it ..

[300weatherby]

Neither of them had an actual mandate to do any of that but (IMHO) Helen Clark was the worst thing that ever became prime minister of this country anyway! :facepalm:

Actually, was David Lange was the worst, thank him for fucking NZ over with Rogernomics, Mr Helen Clark just took over the drivers seat and put her foot on the gas, as she sold us out to get her UN job.......

[Banditbandit]

The little shithead is on the way out ...

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/mp/15928181/sir-paul-holmes-back-in-hospital/

Sorry - that's Sir Shithead ..

[Swoop]

The little shithead is on the way out ...

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/mp/15928181/sir-paul-holmes-back-in-hospital/

Sorry - that's <STRIKE>Sir</STRIKE> Dame Shithead ..

There, fixed that for you!





Why is this moron still alive? Stop wheeling the prick off to the hospital and let the doctors concentrate on deserving patients!

[red mermaid]

He is hanging on waiting for the Womans Weekly to visit to do there latest story.

[Banditbandit]

There, fixed that for you!





Maybe .. I bet you WOULD NOT hit that .. (woof woof or not)

[skippa1]

Is this cunt not dead yet?


There .. fixed it ..


The little shithead is on the way out ...

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/mp/15928181/sir-paul-holmes-back-in-hospital/

Sorry - that's Sir Shithead ..


There, fixed that for you!





Why is this moron still alive? Stop wheeling the prick off to the hospital and let the doctors concentrate on deserving patients!

what the fuck is the matter with you cunts?:blink:

[Banditbandit]

what the fuck is the matter with you cunts?:blink:

Nothing's the matter at all .. just showing good taste and discrimination .. the self-important little cunt has done fuck all for our country except promote the hegemonic bullshit of the ruling class ... of which he has now been made a member ..

Why? Do you think Sir Shithead deserves a knighthood?

[Swoop]

Maybe .. I bet you WOULD NOT hit that .. (woof woof or not)
Correct.

what the fuck is the matter with you cunts?:blink:
Absolutely nothing I'm aware of. Is the cunt dead yet? Have you heard something?? Do I need to get the bubbly on ice?

[Banditbandit]

Do I need to get the bubbly on ice?

Yeah .. I celebrate every time the members of the ruling class die .. for Diana we had a fucking big party!!! Holmes might get a glass of champagne

[skippa1]

Nothing's the matter at all .. just showing good taste and discrimination .. the self-important little cunt has done fuck all for our country except promote the hegemonic bullshit of the ruling class ... of which he has now been made a member ..

Why? Do you think Sir Shithead deserves a knighthood?

so he deserves to be dead?


Correct.

Absolutely nothing I'm aware of. Is the cunt dead yet? Have you heard something?? Do I need to get the bubbly on ice?

you hate him that much?.........I think there may be something wrong with you if you let a TV presenter get under your skin that much

[Banditbandit]

so he deserves to be dead?

None of us "deserve" to be dead .. but we all wil be some time ... Just that New Zealand will be a better place without the little self-aggrandizing little fucker ...




you hate him that much?.........I think there may be something wrong with you if you let a TV presenter get under your skin that much

I know you meant Swoop - but I'd be very very happy if all the members of the ruling class fucked off and died!!!

[skippa1]

None of us "deserve" to be dead .. but we all wil be some time ... Just that New Zealand will be a better place without the little self-aggrandizing little fucker ...





I know you meant Swoop - but I'd be very very happy if all the members of the ruling class fucked off and died!!!

hhmmmmm I think if he was a pedophile or smashed over old grannies or something....... that you could gain hate enough to say something like "is the cunt dead" or the little shithead is on his way out" ​but there are really only three reasons I can see to take a position so harsh with an old radio broadcaster/journalist,

You feel threatened by him
You are jealous of him
You're an attention whore that wants to evoke some sort of emotional response from others......more commonly called a troll

[Swoop]

that you could gain hate enough to say something like "is the cunt dead" or the little shithead is on his way out" ​but there are really only three reasons I can see to take a position so harsh with an old radio broadcaster/journalist,
Neither of your options stated.
Just appreciating the fact that NZ will be a better place without him.

[skippa1]

Neither of your options stated.
Just appreciating the fact that NZ will be a better place without him.
Really? You feel that NZ is going to be better because a broadcaster dies.....? You need to examine your standards man..........you need help:confused:

[Edbear]

None of us "deserve" to be dead .. but we all wil be some time ... Just that New Zealand will be a better place without the little self-aggrandizing little fucker ...

I know you meant Swoop - but I'd be very very happy if all the members of the ruling class fucked off and died!!!

Then who would rule, you?


hhmmmmm I think if he was a pedophile or smashed over old grannies or something....... that you could gain hate enough to say something like "is the cunt dead" or the little shithead is on his way out" ​but there are really only three reasons I can see to take a position so harsh with an old radio broadcaster/journalist,

You feel threatened by him
You are jealous of him
You're an attention whore that wants to evoke some sort of emotional response from others......more commonly called a troll


Option 3 stands out...

[Woodman]

Neither of your options stated.
Just appreciating the fact that NZ will be a better place without him.

He will die, it will get mentioned at smoko along with super 15 results etc and we will all move on. NZ won't be a better place, it will still be just a place.

You need to chill about stuff.

[mashman]

You feel threatened by him
You are jealous of him
You're an attention whore that wants to evoke some sort of emotional response from others......more commonly called a troll
You don't care because he's a drain on the health service


Thought I'd add a fourth just in case.

[oldrider]

what the fuck is the matter with you cunts?:blink:

You must be either very young, or blind and deaf! Holmes has always been an embarrassment to himself and the country! ... Sir Dipstick! :mellow:

[Swoop]

You must be either very young, or blind and deaf! Holmes has always been an embarrassment to himself and the country! ... Sir Dipstick! :mellow:
Welcome to the "attention whore's club" ... apparently.:laugh:

[skippa1]

You must be either very young, or blind and deaf! Holmes has always been an embarrassment to himself and the country! ... Sir Dipstick! :mellow:

Neither. I am not saying he deserves a knighthood...... But waiting with excited anticipation for his death? Nah, you may subscribe to that but I am picking those that wish him dead may have issues

[skippa1]

Welcome to the "attention whore's club" ... apparently.:laugh:

You said it

[Zedder]

Now c'mon you lot, Holmes has his place....... it just hasn't been dug yet (or he could be cremated I s'pose) so calm down.

[Bikemad]

wonder if there is gonna be a "this is your life" show thrown together for him too in the next couple of weeks:shit:

[awa355]

wonder if there is gonna be a "this is your life" show thrown together for him too in the next couple of weeks:shit:

Nah, just a simple state funeral:bye: Remember that singing tape he produced years ago?, about xmas, Paul Holmes greatest hits? was the most returned item to the Warehouse on Boxing day.

[Swoop]

You said it
Correct.

I said it on a website with a few viewers.

Holmes broadcast his beliefs to hundreds of thousands via the state media organisation in two different formats. We, the taxpayer, funded those systems.
It was always good to know that if you didn't know what to think on a particular topic, this individual would provide an extremely biased opinion of his own.
"The deceased" was the opposite of a good journalist. He was also the best way to get UnZud in the international spotlight... for all of the wrong reasons.




Is the cunt dead yet?

[skippa1]

Correct.

I said it on a website with a few viewers.

Holmes broadcast his beliefs to hundreds of thousands via the state media organisation in two different formats. We, the taxpayer, funded those systems.
It was always good to know that if you didn't know what to think on a particular topic, this individual would provide an extremely biased opinion of his own.
"The deceased" was the opposite of a good journalist. He was also the best way to get UnZud in the international spotlight... for all of the wrong reasons.




Is the cunt dead yet?

simpleton :blink:

I should add...........I dont necessarily think he was particularly great at anything.....but I think that wishing he was dead and expressing that on a public forum is crass and fucked up. I hope I dont meet you cause I think you are a cunt....but I dont wish you were dead....

[avgas]

Knighthoods? Ffs talk about archaic, get rid of the stupid system. Also, the Royals coming here - $700 odd grand for Charles and gorilla to come here. What the?
Ditto. Attachment to the crown simply means we are a breastfed nation.
Never mind the fact of the truckload of achievements we have done on our own.
Grow up NZ, Grow some balls, Cut your hair and stop crying back to mummy.

[avgas]

Welcome to the "attention whore's club" ... apparently.:laugh:
On that note.......I would like to get inside this one......would even risk the "attention"
http://static.stuff.co.nz/1233470089/083/1250083.jpghttp://project7.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/elder_460x230.jpghttp://static.stuff.co.nz/1332615757/710/6633710.pnghttp://static.stuff.co.nz/1264247851/170/3257170.jpghttp://horiwood.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/millie-elder-2.jpghttps://horiwood.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/millie-elder.jpg?w=950http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_I4cNpZQv458/S4wEy0RdGsI/AAAAAAAAKJI/UWPAt6C0wRU/s320/2168322287.jpg

[Banditbandit]

Then who would rule, you?





We need rulers then ? YEAH RIGHT !!!!

[Banditbandit]

hhmmmmm I think if he was a pedophile or smashed over old grannies or something....... that you could gain hate enough to say something like "is the cunt dead" or the little shithead is on his way out" ​

I dislike anyone who perpetrates the hegemonic bullshit of our capitalist overlords ... he's a mouthpiece for the ruling elite - who have rewarded him by making him one of them ..


but there are really only three reasons I can see to take a position so harsh with an old radio broadcaster/journalist,

You feel threatened by him
You are jealous of him
You're an attention whore that wants to evoke some sort of emotional response from others......more commonly called a troll


Bwhahahaha ... none of the above ... (I might possibly admit to No 3 - because I didn't have to post anything .. but I do hold that opinion)

[Edbear]

We need rulers then ? YEAH RIGHT !!!!

You are sadly deluded and living in fairyland. :no:

[skippa1]

We need rulers then ? YEAH RIGHT !!!!

so how would you structure it?:blink:

[MD]

Why is this moron still alive? Stop wheeling the prick off to the hospital and let the doctors concentrate on deserving patients!

Let's hazzard a guess he has paid way more in taxes over the years than you. He's paid more than his share for the health system, he's entitled to use it. Mind you I'd also guess he has paid for medicial insurance and therefore has been sweet f... all drain on the health system he contributed to his whole life.

Tell use where your sainthood rights to sit on such a high chair come from?

Where do you get off deciding who can live or die here, who is or isn't allowed to use our hospitals and doctors? Do you just discriminate against obnoxious journalists. For the record he iritated me and I didn't care if he was or wasn't knighted. Or do you have whole occupations you wish dead? Maybe races or religions on your hate list you don't like should be told to hurry up and die and not use our tax funded services. Adolf tried that and he would be one of a few people I would have wished for an earlier death.

White South African are you by chance, trapped in a 1970s timewarp

You and your haters on here need to grow up and move on from seeing yourselves as down trodden peasants. Act like a peasant, behave like a peasant..must be a peasant.

[Banditbandit]

You are sadly deluded and living in fairyland. :no:

Bwhahahaha .. to quote ... "don't under-estimate my apathy on this issue ..."

I'm a passive anarchist .. it means I don't believe there should be a Government - but I can't be bothered doing aything about it ...

[Banditbandit]

so how would you structure it?:blink:

Why are you asking me? I'm just another fucked up human being ...

[Swoop]

I note that he has been in Hawkes Bay Hospital. A public one.
So much for the "weathy" using the private healthcare system then?


White South African are you by chance, trapped in a 1970s timewarp?
:rofl:



In fact...
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[skippa1]

Why are you asking me? I'm just another fucked up human being ...

aint that the truth

[skippa1]

I note that he has been in Hawkes Bay Hospital. A public one.
So much for the "weathy" using the private healthcare system then?in fact...


I am picking he has paid enough tax to earn the right........where is the law that states the "weathy" (your word) must use private health care?

[Banditbandit]

aint that the truth

And what are you??? The suppository of al knowledge ????

[skippa1]

And what are you??? The suppository of al knowledge ????

Who is Al?

[Banditbandit]

Who is Alberta Hunter?

A (dead) blues singer ...

But seriously - what are ya .. the suppository of all knowledge ???

[skippa1]

A (dead) blues singer ...

But seriously - what are ya .. the suppository of all knowledge ???


I cant be fucked reacting to you and your mate Swoops trolling any longer...............he will die soon and you two can have a little party and celebrate your success.....one day you may understand that wishing people are dead is not a normal thing to do, nor is it all right, and that he was just a controversial journalist that died of cancer, one that you two got some cheap points from as he was dying.:blink:
shame on you

[MD]

I note that he has been in Hawkes Bay Hospital. A public one.
So much for the "weathy" using the private healthcare system then?


:

Public hospitals raise additional money to care for those parasitic non paying peasants by letting private medical care use their facilities. He may have been under private care at Hastings? I'm not saying he was or wasn't. Just that he paid more than his share in taxes to be treated either way.

I don't personally know the Guy. He may be an axe murderer. He may be a druggie- hands up all those on here that have taken drugs. Not such an exclusive club is it.

I'm just struggling to comprehend what is so horrible about this guy to elicit such vile hatred? You don't have to look far to find people more deserving of hatred. That doco on telly a couple of nights ago about rape in the Congo. Now there are evil people truly deserving to be put to death.

Each to their own. Have your party.

[Banditbandit]

I cant be fucked reacting to you and your mate Swoops trolling any longer...............he will die soon and you two can have a little party and celebrate your success.....one day you may understand that wishing people are dead is not a normal thing to do, nor is it all right, and that he was just a controversial journalist that died of cancer, one that you two got some cheap points from as he was dying.:blink:
shame on you

(In the voice of Neil from the Young Ones ... with spooky theme music ...)


Oooooo ... bad karma Man !!!

[Swoop]

Each to their own. Have your party.
Jolly good, will do.:drinknsin

[Maha]

Paul Holmes (Sir) is a human being, a dying human being. Part of being a human, is that, you alone are the creator of your mistakes, knowing how to correct those mistakes however, makes you superior to those who dont give a fuck.
Holmes is no exception, he has made more than his share of faux pas over the years, I believe his knighthood has merit, more so than a depressed ex All black.

It must be a very very tough time for his family and friends at the moment, seeing a loved loose his/her battle with a cancer, is the worst thing.......ever.

[phill-k]

Paul Holmes (Sir) is a human being, a dying human being. Part of being a human, is that, you alone are the creator of your mistakes, knowing how to correct those mistakes however, makes you superior to those who dont give a fuck.
Holmes is no exception, he has made more than his share of faux pas over the years, I believe his knighthood has merit, more so than a depressed ex All black.

It must be a very very tough time for his family and friends at the moment, seeing a loved loose his/her battle with a cancer, is the worst thing.......ever.

Good on Ya Maha and add to that through his tenacity & determination he bought his daughter back from near total destruction, many succumb to that bloody drug, all the charity work he has done in recent years, more than I bet 99.9% of those who have shown total disrespect for a fellow human being and his family who are travelling a dark dark road at present. I don't much care for his style of journalism, stopped watching him after his Dennis Conner stunt, but admire the way he has gone about his life in general.

[skippa1]

(In the voice of Neil from the Young Ones ... with spooky theme music ...)


Oooooo ... bad karma Man !!!


Jolly good, will do.:drinknsin

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10861073
Make you feel good?

[Banditbandit]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10861073
Make you feel good?

Why??? Should it??? The inevitable has happened ... and will happen to us all ...

(Oh alright - fuck ya then ... ) Yahoo .. another member of the ruling class bites the dust ...

http://www.ilab.org/thumb/documentation/674/600/600/image1.jpg

[duckonin]

Read most of the posts on this thread. A lot that have responded, negatively, would have to be the biggest CUNTS of all time.:facepalm: Not one of you fucken heathens deserve to suck air !!!! You 'purist' pieces of shit !!!:shit:

[Banditbandit]

Read most of the posts on this thread. A lot that have responded, negatively, would have to be the biggest CUNTS of all time.:facepalm: Not one of you fucken heathens deserve to suck air !!!! You 'purist' pieces of shit !!!:shit:

That time of the Month is it ???

[PrincessBandit]

Came home from work for lunch and read the news. I wonder how long he'll keep generating "news" and comment now that he's departed; surely he'd love the fact that even after his death he will still be a topic worthy of ongoing discussion on the interdweeb and around the water cooler... Ya know, in show biz there ain't any such thing as bad publicity

[Swoop]

Read most of the posts on this thread. A lot that have responded, negatively, would have to be the biggest CUNTS of all time.:facepalm: Not one of you fucken heathens deserve to suck air !!!! You 'purist' pieces of shit !!!:shit:

Nice to see that you have an opinion on the matter, as do others. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, for whatever reasons lay behind them.

[Paul in NZ]

Read most of the posts on this thread. A lot that have responded, negatively, would have to be the biggest CUNTS of all time.:facepalm: Not one of you fucken heathens deserve to suck air !!!! You 'purist' pieces of shit !!!:shit:

No - thats not fair. Most have said that they strongly dislike the man's approach but hardly anyone actually rejoices in his death or the manner of it. I don't like him but take no pleasure in his suffering.

Go volunteer in a Hospice. In fact go into any Hospice in NZ and you come across bigger tragedies in people you have never head of lives. Its not especially amazing what happened to him. If he was not a media personality you wouldnt be any the wiser.

There is a tendancy not to speak ill of the dead. Fair enough but Paul Holmes always spoke his mind regardless of convention. I kind of think he would expect people to be honest about their feelings at this time as well.

[James Deuce]

No - thats not fair. Most have said that they strongly dislike the man's approach but hardly anyone actually rejoices in his death or the manner of it. I don't like him but take no pleasure in his suffering.



Yes, it is fair. Quite a few of them have rejoiced in his personal suffering and mocked his efforts to acknowledge the mistakes he made and the pain he caused people. This thread has simply confirmed for me that the vast majority of KBers are uncaring bastards with little regard for people who don't meet their artificial standards. You know, not motorcyclists, not independently wealthy, not completely capable as contributing members of society, (even though the following has nothing to do with Paul Holmes still is indicative of the tenor of KB), not foreign, you know, not perfect as they see it.

Kiwis are far too happy to bludgeon people into stereotypes so they can abrogate any responsibility for their behaviour and the effect it may have on others.

[Genestho]

I thought it seemed like the modern version of tall poppy syndrome (the ruling elite reference made possible in 2011/12) That's kiwi's aye, take a man down at the knees, even worse when he's on his way out.

Not saying I liked the guys media style either, I didn't! But, I certainly respect what he did and what he overcame - like showing people that Aids was ok and allowing young Eve to continue her battle with Aids without condemnation. Like surviving through at least 4 (one being the fatality of his colleague) air crashes.
Uncovering facts in the Erebus crash and gaining closure for the families..
Promoting charities, notably the Paralympics for 20 years and the Stellar Trust, fighting meth use. and that's off the top of my head.

And finally, being man enough to explain and make peace with who he was and what he'd done, before passing. He deserved his Knight hood much more than others do, IMHO

[Banditbandit]

I thought it seemed like the modern version of tall poppy syndrome (the ruling elite reference made possible in 2011/12) That's kiwi's aye, take a man down at the knees, even worse when he's on his way out.



Totally Wrong !!! It's a totally Marxist analysis of his role in society as a media functionary - a person responsible for maintaining the dominant hegemony of our society ... i.e. maintaining the dominant ideology ... and therefore a functionary of the ruling elite - who was rewarded by being given a knighthood so he symbolically joins their ranks ... (Oh, and as a substantial property owner and manfucturer he does qualify as Petite Bourgoisie/Capitalist - the knighthood just removes the "petite" )

And a member of the Fourth Estate - you now - the Lords Temporal, The Lords Spiritual, the Commons - and the Fourth Estate is the media .. an estate not generally erecogtnised as having power (Unlike the other three) but wth heaps of power non-the-less.

Nothing "tall poppy" about that - a purely Marxist/Anarchist-based sociological analysis of his position and power in New Zealand Society ... I do admire tall Poppies (Edmund Hilary/John Britten/Titokowaru/Earnest Rutherford/Frank Bateson at al) ... I do not admire members of the ruling and their tools and lapdogs !!!

[Edbear]

Paul Holmes (Sir) is a human being, a dying human being. Part of being a human, is that, you alone are the creator of your mistakes, knowing how to correct those mistakes however, makes you superior to those who dont give a fuck.
Holmes is no exception, he has made more than his share of faux pas over the years, I believe his knighthood has merit, more so than a depressed ex All black.

It must be a very very tough time for his family and friends at the moment, seeing a loved loose his/her battle with a cancer, is the worst thing.......ever.


Can't read your posts in the light mode, could you please change colour?


Why??? Should it??? The inevitable has happened ... and will happen to us all ...

(Oh alright - fuck ya then ... ) Yahoo .. another member of the ruling class bites the dust ...

http://www.ilab.org/thumb/documentation/674/600/600/image1.jpg


Totally Wrong !!! It's a totally Marxist analysis of his role in society as a media functionary - a person responsible for maintaining the dominant hegemony of our society ... i.e. maintaining the dominant ideology ... and therefore a functionary of the ruling elite - who was rewarded by being given a knighthood so he symbolically joins their ranks ... (Oh, and as a substantial property owner and manfucturer he does qualify as Petite Bourgoisie/Capitalist - the knighthood just removes the "petite" )

And a member of the Fourth Estate - you now - the Lords Temporal, The Lords Spiritual, the Commons - and the Fourth Estate is the media .. an estate not generally erecogtnised as having power (Unlike the other three) but wth heaps of power non-the-less.

Nothing "tall poppy" about that - a purely Marxist/Anarchist-based sociological analysis of his position and power in New Zealand Society ... I do admire tall Poppies (Edmund Hilary/John Britten/Titokowaru/Earnest Rutherford/Frank Bateson at al) ... I do not admire members of the ruling and their tools and lapdogs !!!

You have a very myopic view of life and are not only factually incorrect but you canno be a happy individual with society so stacked against you.

[Paul in NZ]

Yes, it is fair. Quite a few of them have rejoiced in his personal suffering and mocked his efforts to acknowledge the mistakes he made and the pain he caused people. This thread has simply confirmed for me that the vast majority of KBers are uncaring bastards with little regard for people who don't meet their artificial standards. You know, not motorcyclists, not independently wealthy, not completely capable as contributing members of society, (even though the following has nothing to do with Paul Holmes still is indicative of the tenor of KB), not foreign, you know, not perfect as they see it.

Kiwis are far too happy to bludgeon people into stereotypes so they can abrogate any responsibility for their behaviour and the effect it may have on others.

I see what you are saying but I disagree. Just 'cos hes Paul Holmes and dying does not mean I need to forgive him anything. If the boot was on the other foot I doubt he would be one jot repentant and he would be into me boots and all for one extra rating point so frankly I doubt the sincerity. I've known people who are genuine saints compared to him and who died three times more horribly and got fuck all. Its easy for the rich to be generous but when a poor man gives you everything he can that means something else.

The difference is hes a media figure and thus has access to a zillion more ears than I do.

Yes Kiwis bludgeon some people. Usually these are people who have behaved poorly and then accuse everyone of this tall poppy syndrome when they find out that no - the great unwashed don't think you are super amazing actually. I don't think it actually exists. Some successful people like ARE not very nice - poppies have fuck all to do with it.

I'm not an uncharitable person (or I like to think I'm not) but I see no reason to change an opinion I have held for a long time because of a pretty everyday passing.

If there is a message here - Look at the stats for prostrate cancer and go get the doc to look up your bum...

[Edbear]

I see what you are saying but I disagree. Just 'cos hes Paul Holmes and dying does not mean I need to forgive him anything. If the boot was on the other foot I doubt he would be one jot repentant and he would be into me boots and all for one extra rating point so frankly I doubt the sincerity. I've known people who are genuine saints compared to him and who died three times more horribly and got fuck all. Its easy for the rich to be generous but when a poor man gives you everything he can that means something else.

The difference is hes a media figure and thus has access to a zillion more ears than I do.

Yes Kiwis bludgeon some people. Usually these are people who have behaved poorly and then accuse everyone of this tall poppy syndrome when they find out that no - the great unwashed don't think you are super amazing actually. I don't think it actually exists. Some successful people like ARE not very nice - poppies have fuck all to do with it.

I'm not an uncharitable person (or I like to think I'm not) but I see no reason to change an opinion I have held for a long time because of a pretty everyday passing.

If there is a message here - Look at the stats for prostrate cancer and go get the doc to look up your bum...

Nowadays you get a blood test and then if it indicated high you get the finger...

[Maha]

Can't read your posts in the light mode, could you please change colour?



I said...

Paul Holmes (Sir) is a human being, a dying human being. Part of being a human, is that, you alone are the creator of your mistakes, knowing how to correct those mistakes however, makes you superior to those who dont give a fuck.
Holmes is no exception, he has made more than his share of faux pas over the years, I believe his knighthood has merit, more so than a depressed ex All black.

It must be a very very tough time for his family and friends at the moment, seeing a loved loose his/her battle with a cancer, is the worst thing.......ever.

[Banditbandit]

You have a very myopic view of life and are not only factually incorrect but you cannot be a happy individual with society so stacked against you.

Bwhahahaha ... quite to the contrary my good sir ...

Unfortunately, many people here are of the opinion that the views expressed by the created persona here are the views of the real person typing on the keyboard. They are frequently mistaken in that view.

The views and attitudes expressed here may or may not have been held by the real person on the keyboard at some time in the past 57 years ... they may or may not be the current views of the real person on the keyboard ... or they may be only a part of the views the real person holds ...

Do not mistake the persona for the reality - the two are only lightly connected.

I'm here for my own amusement and I am amused frequently by what I read here. I honestly don't give a fuck about the rest ...

[Edbear]

Bwhahahaha ... quite to the contrary my good sir ...

Unfortunately, many people here are of the opinion that the views expressed by the created persona here are the views of the real person typing on the keyboard. They are frequently mistaken in that view.

The views and attitudes expressed here may or may not have been held by the real person on the keyboard at some time in the past 57 years ... they may or may not be the current views of the real person on the keyboard ... or they may be only a part of the views the real person holds ...

Do not mistake the persona for the reality - the two are only lightly connected.

I'm here for my own amusement and I am amused frequently by what I read here. I honestly don't give a fuck about the rest ...

So a Troll then. :shifty:

[Edbear]

I said...

Paul Holmes (Sir) is a human being, a dying human being. Part of being a human, is that, you alone are the creator of your mistakes, knowing how to correct those mistakes however, makes you superior to those who dont give a fuck.
Holmes is no exception, he has made more than his share of faux pas over the years, I believe his knighthood has merit, more so than a depressed ex All black.

It must be a very very tough time for his family and friends at the moment, seeing a loved loose his/her battle with a cancer, is the worst thing.......ever.

I agree. I'm not so fussed on Knighthoods etc. as there are so many unsung heroes in this world who perform incredible feats of courage and humanity every day, but to suffer and die in this manner truly is horrible and I have lost friends and family this way. My Father-in-law was scared stiff of dying and despite being very anti- religious all his life, insisted on our daughter reading to him from the Bible every day.

[Madness]

Rest in peace Holmesey.

[Genestho]

Totally Wrong !!! It's a totally Marxist analysis of his role in society as a media functionary - a person responsible for maintaining the dominant hegemony of our society ... i.e. maintaining the dominant ideology ... and therefore a functionary of the ruling elite - who was rewarded by being given a knighthood so he symbolically joins their ranks ... (Oh, and as a substantial property owner and manfucturer he does qualify as Petite Bourgoisie/Capitalist - the knighthood just removes the "petite" )

And a member of the Fourth Estate - you now - the Lords Temporal, The Lords Spiritual, the Commons - and the Fourth Estate is the media .. an estate not generally erecogtnised as having power (Unlike the other three) but wth heaps of power non-the-less.

Nothing "tall poppy" about that - a purely Marxist/Anarchist-based sociological analysis of his position and power in New Zealand Society ... I do admire tall Poppies (Edmund Hilary/John Britten/Titokowaru/Earnest Rutherford/Frank Bateson at al) ... I do not admire members of the ruling and their tools and lapdogs !!!

Furry Muff! :yes: I'm not into the Marxism theories, myself. Perhaps I don't know enough to understand them. Perhaps I used think that way as a young'un before I realised certain things about the world.
I'm all about critical thinking - question everything. I'm also all about people that are real and make an effort in our society. Some have the ability and infamy to enact or cause change and recognised for it, some seek or lack neither and are not.

I think you'll find amongst your list there are some names with some rather well known history, in relation to how they've treated people in the past, too.

But far be it for me, to rubbish them. :)

[BoristheBiter]

Bwhahahaha ... quite to the contrary my good sir ...

Unfortunately, many people here are of the opinion that the views expressed by the created persona here are the views of the real person typing on the keyboard. They are frequently mistaken in that view.

The views and attitudes expressed here may or may not have been held by the real person on the keyboard at some time in the past 57 years ... they may or may not be the current views of the real person on the keyboard ... or they may be only a part of the views the real person holds ...

Do not mistake the persona for the reality - the two are only lightly connected.

I'm here for my own amusement and I am amused frequently by what I read here. I honestly don't give a fuck about the rest ...

"many a true word is spoken in jest"

You are either a troll that spends far to much time on here as you have no life or you are a complete fucktard that cares little for his fellow man and revels in others suffering.

Either way you are worth neither time or effort.

[allycatz]

Theres been many times when I have watched a Holmes interview with terminally ill people and cringed at his questions to them. I often wonder if after he became sick himself he realised how daft and patronising he could be. Yup, for sure many times I thought he was an obnoxious wee garden gnome but many times Ive watched , laughed and smiled. I would never wish anyone a death from cancer and especially at what is these days a young age.

[Banditbandit]

So a Troll then. :shifty:

Not in the way you mean ... but I'm sure you will not be the last one to say that in this thread in the next few hours .. So it Goes ...

I'm amused by many things - my own reactions as much as other people's reactions ... I do also have a fairly typical Aspergers tendency to say what hops into my head - in "real life" I do moderate that to some extent - Here, I don't bother - I Just let rip ... very satisfying ...

It is, I think, important to note my Avatar picture - Pan, the powerful, uncontrollable anarchic spirit of the universe (I could just have easily used the Buddhist Monkey - but western people wouldn't get it) and my tag line "Anarchic Wild Child" ... paints the picture I intend.

[Banditbandit]

Either way you are worth neither time or effort.

But sir, unlike myself, who has wasted my time by responded to you for many weeks (in case you have not noticed that fact) - you do waste your time engaging with me ...

[Banditbandit]

I think you'll find amongst your list there are some names with some rather well known history, in relation to how they've treated people in the past, too.

But far be it for me, to rubbish them. :)

Oh rubbish away - an open forum on the interdweb is as far removed from "real life" as you will get ...

[Edbear]

Oh rubbish away - an open forum on the interdweb is as far removed from "real life" as you will get ...

Wotchu talkin' 'bout Willis? KB isn't real???!!! :confused:

[Zedder]

Not in the way you mean ... but I'm sure you will not be the last one to say that in this thread in the next few hours .. So it Goes ...

I'm amused by many things - my own reactions as much as other people's reactions ... I do also have a fairly typical Aspergers tendency to say what hops into my head - in "real life" I do moderate that to some extent - Here, I don't bother - I Just let rip ... very satisfying ...

It is, I think, important to note my Avatar picture - Pan, the powerful, uncontrollable anarchic spirit of the universe (I could just have easily used the Buddhist Monkey - but western people wouldn't get it) and my tag line "Anarchic Wild Child" ... paints the picture I intend.

Where do you get this stuff? Pan was the Greek god of nature, shepherds and flocks not a powerful anarchic spirit of the universe.

The Buddist Monkey king according to the classic Chinese novel did had supernatural powers though.

[Maha]

Where do you get this stuff? Pan was the Greek god of nature, shepherds and flocks not a powerful anarchic spirit of the universe.

The Buddist Monkey king according to the classic Chinese novel did had supernatural powers though.

He probably means Peter Pan?....he had a flute :laugh:

[BoristheBiter]

But sir, unlike myself, who has wasted my time by responded to you for many weeks (in case you have not noticed that fact) - you do waste your time engaging with me ...

Oh don't for one minute think I used any time or effort.

[BoristheBiter]

The Buddist Monkey king according to the classic Chinese novel did had supernatural powers though.

and he used to hang with piggsy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh658iu4YBg

[mashman]

It is, I think, important to note my Avatar picture - Pan, the powerful, uncontrollable anarchic spirit of the universe (I could just have easily used the Buddhist Monkey - but western people wouldn't get it) and my tag line "Anarchic Wild Child" ... paints the picture I intend.

Sorry, but I'm getting smoking pipe whilst dancing badly, almost 60's like, and nekkid in a field of swaying golden grass. It's been a long week.

[caseye]

Damn you lot, we've just lost another human being who actually managed to do more good than harm in his own lifetime, who stood for downtrodden and poor, who made life a little more bearable for many who could not get a simple hello from our own govt agencies.
Ask The para Olympians who got them to the games, ask Westpac rescue who made it possible for their choppers to simply take to the air, ask the cancer society who for as many years as he's been famous has made significant contributions in both time, money and personal sacrifice, since well before he was ever ill.
This man didn't do anything by halves, he fucked up, he made us laugh and he made us gasp with his audacity and sometimes his stupidity, throughout it all he maintained his own life rules, he helped as many as he physically could, he knew he couldn't help them all, he knew fame and fortune didn't mean he could fix the worlds ills, still he tried and he never stopped trying.
R.I.P Sir Paul.
Time to have a wee rest, me ol mate.

For the record, I didn't like Paul Holmes for a very long time, he held views which I could not agree with, he championed people who should never have been allowed here ( Ahkmed shit face for one), he was anti gun ( until it came time to shoot the birds at his olive ranch) he learned by his mistakes something we've all had a good go at.
Throughout it all he evolved and he grew stronger and better able to make his people see his own failings and his way of dealing with things that happen to him as they happen to everyone else.
Paul Holmes is/was a damn good kiwi bloke.
he stood and was counted when it came to his own and I for one changed my entire outlook on Sir Paul Holmes after seeing him stand beside his daughter( don't you barstards even dare, she's his as sure as night follows day, I know some fantastic guys who's kids are not their own, but who would die for them without thought) in public court and when I saw him stand tall in a public courtroom and ask a judge for his daughters life back, when he promised to do everything he could for her.
Is that not enough for you?
It was for me.

[Littleman]

Please stop the whole 'hey man, he's dead show him some respect' rhetoric.

Just because hes dead doesn't suddenly make him a good guy. Stop letting your middle class values cause you to default to your inevitable guilt. God its such a cliche.

Grow up, death shouldn't change anything.

He is what he is. Good or bad. You're only trying to make yourself feel better by talking him up.

[skippa1]

Please stop the whole 'hey man, he's dead show him some respect' rhetoric.

Just because hes dead doesn't suddenly make him a good guy. Stop letting your middle class values cause you to default to your inevitable guilt. God its such a cliche.

Grow up, death shouldn't change anything.

He is what he is. Good or bad. You're only trying to make yourself feel better by talking him up.

Did you read the whole thread?????? Read it before you comment.
No one is trying to make out like he was the be all and end all, but some have wished him dead....
as a human being, that sentiment is weird to say the least.

[Littleman]

Let me guess.... white? middle class?...

[skippa1]

Let me guess.... white? middle class?...

wrong big noter

[_Shrek_]

For the record, I didn't like Paul Holmes for a very long time, he held views which I could not agree with, he championed people who should never have been allowed here ( Ahkmed shit face for one), he was anti gun ( until it came time to shoot the birds at his olive ranch) he learned by his mistakes something we've all had a good go at.
Throughout it all he evolved and he grew stronger and better able to make his people see his own failings and his way of dealing with things that happen to him as they happen to everyone else.
Paul Holmes is/was a damn good kiwi bloke.
he stood and was counted when it came to his own and I for one changed my entire outlook on Sir Paul Holmes after seeing him stand beside his daughter( don't you barstards even dare, she's his as sure as night follows day, I know some fantastic guys who's kids are not their own, but who would die for them without thought) in public court and when I saw him stand tall in a public courtroom and ask a judge for his daughters life back, when he promised to do everything he could for her.
Is that not enough for you?
It was for me.

+ 1 here
standing by his daughter changed my attitude to wards him, but there are still things I didn't like about him, but thats my own personal opinion & will keep to myself

[BoristheBiter]

Let me guess.... white? middle class?...

Big fuck off chip on ones shoulder aye.
but then your name says it all.

[Fatt Max]

he stood and was counted when it came to his own

Well said, just a shame there are not more like him in this life......especially those fucking keyboard warriors who pretended to be bad ass bikers when we needed them to stand stand up and be counted.....especially those who said they had our interests at heart when all they were really bothered about was their own egotistical gains......and especially those fucking Arsenal supporters....

Well said Caseye,

[Genestho]

Please stop the whole 'hey man, he's dead show him some respect' rhetoric.

Just because hes dead doesn't suddenly make him a good guy. Stop letting your middle class values cause you to default to your inevitable guilt. God its such a cliche.

Grow up, death shouldn't change anything.

He is what he is. Good or bad. You're only trying to make yourself feel better by talking him up.

Sorry, silly me. I thought the thread title explained the situation. Apparently he hadn't done enough to warrant a knighthood? So I guess it seemed like it needed explaining?

While I'll agree your post has some validity as that kinda thing happens in human nature - this thread was going on well before he passed away.
"Is the C*nt not dead yet" repeatedly is just sick, regardless of who someone is or isn't, regardless of any class or values system. And quite frankly would warrant a punch in the face in most worlds. How's that for values? :bleh:

[Paul in NZ]

+ 1 here
standing by his daughter changed my attitude to wards him, but there are still things I didn't like about him, but thats my own personal opinion & will keep to myself

So walking out on them 1st place didnt contribute to this mess at all? Oh yeah - thats right he said he was sorry didnt he...

[_Shrek_]

+ 1 here
there are still things I didn't like about him, but thats my own personal opinion & will keep to myself


So walking out on them 1st place didnt contribute to this mess at all? Oh yeah - thats right he said he was sorry didnt he...

you may need to read my hole post there Paul :corn:

[Woodman]

Bloody hell some of you guys need to look in the mirror a bit.

[Katman]

Bloody hell some of you guys need to look in the mirror a bit.

I've never liked Paul Holmes and frankly, his death means nothing to me.

It amuses me though that some in this thread have, in the past, had the nerve to question my morals.

[Fatt Max]

I've never liked Paul Holmes and frankly, his death means nothing to me.

It amuses me though that some in this thread have, in the past, had the nerve to question my morals.

You are one of the few people in here that stuck to your guns and made some sense man so no worries, fuck the knockers, unless they are 36DD

[awa355]

When I started this thread it was raising the issue of Knighthoods and other titles being relevent today. Paul Holmes was an example ( in my opinion ) of a knighthood, that was not justified.

I never liked the mans' tv shows, but on radio talkback he could atually give a good balanced debate. ( at times)
I found him a lot more plausible as his career developed,

I have had both parents die of cancer, a terrible death, I wouldn't wish that on anyone.


What this thread has degenerated into is a prime example of why some threads should be canned after page 3.

[Paul in NZ]

You are correct - this is ridiculous. The hyperbole in the media for one of their own vastly exceedes his standing. If's just another case of the media blowing up their own to inflate their position. They have gone from reporting the news to being the news. Headline like 'Good Night Brave Knight' and 'Angel Eve guiding Holmes Through'? Please.... Guiding him through what?

The whole point is that we are ALL entitled to express an opinion. NOT just the media but all of us and to devolve our right to an opinion to the media only is a bad thing. Paul Holmes never shrank from expressing one and if he didnt like something he was not unbiased - you knew about it. Effectively he acted as a social judge and wasnt worried about the down stream affects on peoples lives. I'm completely un appologetic about this. In my world view just saying 'whoops sorry' once you suddenly need to clear you own concience isnt changing a damn thing and doesnt make the guy a saint or a knight.

In my world view leaving your second wife and child for a 25 year old does NOT qualify you as the voice of the nation. I find it offensive. I don't care but I do have an opinion about it and if Paul Holmes was reporting on me acting as he did in his private life he would have NO problem questioning my morality....

Yeah - he got cancer and no one would wish that on anyone. I've had brush with cancer myself ffs - its not funny but it didnt change anything in my past either.

[Edbear]

When I started this thread it was raising the issue of Knighthoods and other titles being relevent today. Paul Holmes was an example ( in my opinion ) of a knighthood, that was not justified.

I never liked the mans' tv shows, but on radio talkback he could atually give a good balanced debate. ( at times)
I found him a lot more plausible as his career developed,

I have had both parents die of cancer, a terrible death, I wouldn't wish that on anyone.


What this thread has degenerated into is a prime example of why some threads should be canned after page 3.

KB is all about degenerating threads... :laugh:

[Fatt Max]

KB is all about degenerating threads... :laugh:

...and nobody waves....

[Edbear]

...and nobody waves....

We need a waving smiley.

[bluninja]

Perhaps this is what Paul Ho,mes may have posted on KB with smileys
:Oops::bye:

Here's your wave Ed
:wavey:

[awa355]

One for Edbear. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6Xo21L0ybE