Wings Over Wairarapa

[nudemetalz]

Damn, I'm looking forward to seeing that Mossie fly this weekend !!!
She's off to USA very soon so probably be the first and last chance.

(image from nzcivair.blogspot)

[unstuck]

Sure is a sexy plane. They should of used heat wrapping on the pipes though.:devil2:

[ducatilover]

That's one of the reasons why I'm going!
And my strange love for the Corsair... :devil2:

[Kendog]

I will be going over just to see this sexy plane as well.

That and the Spitfire.

[Grizzo]

That's one of the reasons why I'm going!
And my strange love for the Corsair... :devil2:


Yeah, the Mozzy is a massive drawcard this year, huge interest in this beastie.

I've just dropped off the signage at the Aerodrome and the smell of that special fuel is in the air!:niceone:
Hope the weather holds out, bit schizophrenic here in Rapa.

[SMOKEU]

They should of used heat wrapping on the pipes though.:devil2:

Should HAVE, not should OF. FFS, it's not that complicated.

[GSF]

Damn, I'm looking forward to seeing that Mossie fly this weekend !!!
She's off to USA very soon so probably be the first and last chance.

(image from nzcivair.blogspot)

I saw it on it's first outing back in September - a high-speed low pass by that thing is incredible. So fucking quick.
The most amazing part was that at that show, they were only giving her something like 60 or 70 percent throttle because the engines were still being run in and the airframe is so new.
Theoretically she should be good for something like 380 mile an hour :)

Being a German train driver and having one of those things appear over the treeline with wings full of HE rockets must have been a pant-shitting experience...


That's one of the reasons why I'm going!
And my strange love for the Corsair... :devil2:

How can you not love a carrier-based fighter that's powered by a turbocharged 2,800 cubic inch 18-cylinder radial that pushes 2,000 horsies through a 4 metre diameter prop? :devil2:

[Banditbandit]

Should HAVE, not should OF. FFS, it's not that complicated.

Sheeesh ... so now you've added language Nazi to al your other far right idiocies ?

He meant "should've" pronunciation very close to "should of" .. it's bad spelling not wrong word choice !!!

[SMOKEU]

Sheeesh ... so now you've added language Nazi to al your other far right idiocies ?

He meant "should've" pronunciation very close to "should of" .. it's bad spelling not wrong word choice !!!

It's not just poor pronunciation, but the word choice itself is wrong.

[nudemetalz]

Anyway......

I got to see and hear the Mossie, P40 and Spit T9 flyover while eating my lunch today.
I dropped my lunch and ran to the window.
Oh, the sound of 3 Merlins and an Allison roar overhead my office building is purely awesome.


http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8195596/Mosquito-flies-over-Wellington

[BuzzardNZ]

Anyway......

I got to see and hear the Mossie, P40 and Spit T9 flyover while eating my lunch today.
I dropped my lunch and ran to the window.
Oh, the sound of 3 Merlins and an Allison roar overhead my office building is purely awesome.


http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8195596/Mosquito-flies-over-Wellington

+1 I saw and heard that too, pretty cool. Someone in the office jokingly said that was the entire NZ airforce and one of the Indian dudes here thought he was telling the truth!

[240]

Gott in Himmel!!!! Zis mosquito vill giff me nightmares! I haff nein choice but to fire up my me109 in ze garden shed and restore pride to ze glorious luftwaffe!!!!!!

Shiten housen!! I haff just realized ze rego has expired on ze 109 as I put it on hold till ze next war !!!!

I vill haff to vait until ze next time :angry2:

[Kendog]

Anyway......

I got to see and hear the Mossie, P40 and Spit T9 flyover while eating my lunch today.
I dropped my lunch and ran to the window.
Oh, the sound of 3 Merlins and an Allison roar overhead my office building is purely awesome.


http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8195596/Mosquito-flies-over-Wellington
I caught a glimpse of that today, wish they had advertised it more so I could of been outside.

[Pussy]

How can you not love a carrier-based fighter that's powered by a turbocharged 2,800 cubic inch 18-cylinder radial that pushes 2,000 horsies through a 4 metre diameter prop? :devil2:

Errr... it's NOT turbo-charged... supercharged. The P-47 had a turbocharged R-2800

[banditrider]

Cameras charged and can't wait!

The Mossie is the major draw-card for me but anything with a Merlin rocks. Nothing wrong with the Corsair (or all the other stuff too really) either...

[caseye]

Had ringside seats at Ardmore when she came out! Amazing airplane, beautiful and bloody deadly to boot.
Have seen her up close and alongside the Anson she is light years ahead of anything else being produced at the time.
The Anson though is a superb example of what OUR guys and girls here in NZ can do with a 70 odd year old aircraft. perfect is too simple a description they rock.
Enjoy that show guys, wish I could be there .

[carbonhed]

Someone in the office jokingly said that was the entire NZ airforce and one of the Indian dudes here thought he was telling the truth!

The entire NZ airforce would probably gets it's arse kicked by that beautiful collection of memorabilia.

[BMWST?]

looks as though its gonna be windy tomorrow arvo

[Macontour]

I live near Hobsonville and yesterday the Chopper was practicing steep descents and today the Boeing 757 was doing some fast, low, steep turns around the Base. I guess they are practicing for the show this weekend.

[Hitcher]

The entire NZ airforce would probably gets it's arse kicked by that beautiful collection of memorabilia.

Unfair comparison. If ever there was a completely misnamed organisation, it would have to be the "air" "force". Less than 30 air-worthy craft, and only one jet -- a 757. Oh, and a band.

[Usarka]

Uand only one jet -- a 757.

Hey, that jet is representing our air force at the Australian International Airshow! Snigger.

[Flip]

My Dad was in the airforce, he said the crews all loved their Mozzies. They ended up carrying a heavy bomber bomb load further and faster than the 4 engine heavies, exposed the crews to less danger for a shorter time.

Good on DeHavland for building a fast bomber out of ply wood that didn't have full air ministry backing.

Just down the road from where I grew up there was a complete one in a Barn. I remember sitting in it as a kid. Dad said when they were trying to work out how it was made so they could rebuild the flying one they came and Xrayed the whole plane.

[Kendog]

A couple of pics from yesterday.
Amazing planes, fantastic show.

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[Cammey]

A stunning aircraft. And it just goes to show how good the engineers were, going from approval to build in March 1940 to flying by November. Nowadays we take 5 years to build a payroll system that doesn't work...thats progress for ya

[carbonhed]

Unfair comparison.

:laugh: Yeah... my bad.

[Berg]

Music to the ears. 5 Merlins (mosquito, two spitfires and a mustang), two Packards (two P40s) and one huge radial being that amazing corsair all flying together. I could listen to that every day.:yes:

[Edbear]

Music to the ears. 5 Merlins (mosquito, two spitfires and a mustang), two Packards (two P40s) and one huge radial being that amazing corsair all flying together. I could listen to that every day.:yes:

Awesome! I wish I could have been there.

[Grubber]

A couple of pics from yesterday.
Amazing planes, fantastic show.

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Love the black n white mate.
Great photography.

[caseye]

Music to the ears. 5 Merlins (mosquito, two spitfires and a mustang), two Packards (two P40s) and one huge radial being that amazing corsair all flying together. I could listen to that every day.:yes:

Nope sorry Berg, that'd most likely be 4 Merlin's the Mossie and the two Spitfires, 1 Packard Merlin the P51 and 2 Alison's the 2 KittyHawks, unless they were both much later models which were sometimes fitted with a Merlin, certainly the Officer commanding Rukahia had his own Kitty re engined with a Merlin, it turned out to be a devastatingly fast and manouverable aircraft, almost as good they said as the last of the Spit's and Mustangs.
Cannot think of better Music to listen too either, an awesome sight ain't they and here they are in our little country, showing the world how to do it!

[BMWST?]

I got some video today,not particularly good,its bloody hard to see the planes against the sky in the bright sun on a little lcd screen.The corsair and a P40 did a few laps together, the corsair looks twice as big !The Mossie was amazing,but it is still the merlins in the MK 1X that turns my skin to gooseflesh.Will try to get a video up

[Berg]

Nope sorry Berg, that'd most likely be 4 Merlin's the Mossie and the two Spitfires, 1 Packard Merlin the P51 and 2 Alison's the 2 KittyHawks, unless they were both much later models which were sometimes fitted with a Merlin, certainly the Officer commanding Rukahia had his own Kitty re engined with a Merlin, it turned out to be a devastatingly fast and manouverable aircraft, almost as good they said as the last of the Spit's and Mustangs.
Cannot think of better Music to listen too either, an awesome sight ain't they and here they are in our little country, showing the world how to do it!

You could be right too. Still, a stunning sight and noise. Fantastic work also been done on the older WW1 planes with a huge amount being restored or remanufactured. Pity we are loosing the mossie to the states but great to hear a few others may be in the pipes. Now, how to make a Z750 sound like a Merlin v12:drool:

[ducatilover]

Well, I got properly burnt there on Saturday. It was an excellent show, apart from the announcer warbling on about a Beaver... nobody cares about it!

[SPman]

Wish I could have been there - a weekend spoiled for choice, Wings over Wairarapa and the Denny Hulme meeting at Hampton Downs. Still, Gavin and co have put up some great photos here http://rnzaf.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=airshow&action=display&thread=17517&page=17

KittyHawks, unless they were both much later models which were sometimes fitted with a MerlinThere are a couple of Merlin engined examples around - Judy Pay has her P40F in Aussie, there's one in the UK, I think, and a P40L in "as recovered" condition from of the beach at Anzio in Italy.
The P40E being restored in the RNZAF Museum, started life as a P40F, as well, but has been re-engined with an Alison to represent a P40E - there was bugger all left of it, anyway.


And my strange love for the Corsair... :devil2: I love Corsairs as well. I used to play fighter pilots in that one, at Motat, back in the late 60's, before it was whisked off overseas and rebuilt. Wish it (and the P40E) were in RNZAF markings, though. Of all the WW2 ex RNZAF fighters put back in the air, only 1 is in RNZAF markings, and that is the one in the US - the other 3 are in "other" colour schemes. At least it's good to see the Aussie P40 has it's original markings (apart from the ....shudder...shark's mouth they've stuck on it!)

When the Mossie departs, at least there is plenty of video around to keep us sated......until Glyn gets his in the air......and before that whisks off to the UK......

[BMWST?]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCXuHSrVD6U&feature=youtu.be

[Edbear]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCXuHSrVD6U&feature=youtu.be

Just beautiful! Why doesn't some enterprising aircraft manufacturer build replica's? :yes:

Anyone going to the NZ International at Dairy Flat this weekend?

[banditrider]

A few pics: https://picasaweb.google.com/114821789113527181423/WingsOverWairarapa190113?authuser=0&feat=directlink

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[Hitcher]

Just beautiful! Why doesn't some enterprising aircraft manufacturer build replicas?

I agree. All of the plans for these things exist in some detail. Transcribing these into a CAD package shouldn't be too hard -- imperial measurements notwithstanding. Fabrication should be a doddle too, compared to the comparative lack of sophistication back during WWII when aircraft were being knocked together at frightening speed. It would be interesting to discover what copyright issues there may be, just so everything is done all proper like.

[Edbear]

I agree. All of the plans for these things exist in some detail. Transcribing these into a CAD package shouldn't be too hard -- imperial measurements notwithstanding. Fabrication should be a doddle too, compared to the comparative lack of sophistication back during WWII when aircraft were being knocked together at frightening speed. It would be interesting to discover what copyright issues there may be, just so everything is done all proper like.

We have retro-mania sweeping the world and nostalgia everywhere. I agree with the modern technology being able to build pretty much anything at a reasonable cost. The systems would not need to be complex, just up to modern safety standards.

[Ocean1]

I agree. All of the plans for these things exist in some detail. Transcribing these into a CAD package shouldn't be too hard -- imperial measurements notwithstanding. Fabrication should be a doddle too, compared to the comparative lack of sophistication back during WWII when aircraft were being knocked together at frightening speed. It would be interesting to discover what copyright issues there may be, just so everything is done all proper like.

The plans don't exist in that much detail. At least not for some of them. Modeling the components and assembly inside a computer takes longer than most think, but it's relatively straightforward. Fabrication would be very difficult indeed, the number of individuals that have the required skills is reducing rapidly, to the extent that it may not be possible to teach a new generation. If you could I doubt you'd manage to keep the skills together, long term, like superyacht service suppliers they'd be out of work more often than not. As for copywright, is there not a time limit on such things? Although I can easilly imagine issues with things like the required end-use certificates, etc.

[pete376403]

These guys http://www.supermarineaircraft.com/ make a replica Spitfire kitset, between 75% - 90% full size ( I think the size reduction makes it a lot easier to find a suitable power unit)

Pictures - http://www.supermarineaircraft.com/March2012/Galleries/GroundPhotos.html

[BMWST?]

apparently the spitfire wing is not easy to manufacture.The higher efficiency mustang wing is easier.The technology is there to make the manufacture of say a new merlin relatively easy.They build exact reproductions of the WW1 fighter plane engines from castings made form the original motors that still exist!

[Zedder]

These guys http://www.supermarineaircraft.com/ make a replica Spitfire kitset, between 75% - 90% full size ( I think the size reduction makes it a lot easier to find a suitable power unit)

Pictures - http://www.supermarineaircraft.com/March2012/Galleries/GroundPhotos.html

These guys produce a range of 3/4 scale WW2 aircraft:http://www.campbellaeroclassics.com/id55.html

[pete376403]

These guys produce a range of 3/4 scale WW2 aircraft:http://www.campbellaeroclassics.com/id55.html



Oh niice. What would happen if you turned up at a warbirds meet with one of these?

[Zedder]

Oh niice. What would happen if you turned up at a warbirds meet with one of these?

I suppose it boils down to how purist the warbirds people are.

[BMWST?]

I suppose it boils down to how purist the warbirds people are.

i think some are purist in the extreme...esp the ww1 boys.As i said there are replicas and reproductions.

[BMWST?]

another lil video of the star of the show

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-Hk7ICm7kc&feature=youtu.be

[BMWST?]

and another sorry for the missing bit was bloody hard to see on the screen in the bright light,Mosquito,2 MkIX Spitfires and the P51D Mustang

http://youtu.be/aq3MBaQvghQ

[far queue]

Turn your speakers up and enjoy ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu3gLyLwIOs

[banditrider]

Turn your speakers up and enjoy ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu3gLyLwIOs

I did and I did! Outstanding vid!

[Kendog]

Turn your speakers up and enjoy ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu3gLyLwIOs
Awesome video. That was a great show.

[nudemetalz]

It was an awesome airshow !!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v677/turbo_NZ/P1070846.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v677/turbo_NZ/Camel.jpg

[nadroj]

My pics here: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.506669192709783.109459.100001001203697&type=3

[BuzzardNZ]

Anyone know what the parking is like for bikes at this thing?

[nudemetalz]

When I took the Guzzi up it was great. They had a spot right at the front of the carpark (short walk) and since it was a hot day (back 2013 when I went on the bike) I managed to store my leathers and helmet in the corner of a hangar :) So shorts, tee, hat and jandies were a good way of walking around !!

[BuzzardNZ]

When I took the Guzzi up it was great. They had a spot right at the front of the carpark (short walk) and since it was a hot day (back 2013 when I went on the bike) I managed to store my leathers and helmet in the corner of a hangar :) So shorts, tee, hat and jandies were a good way of walking around !!

What do they charge or is it free parking?

[nudemetalz]

From memory, if you get your tickets then parking is free. http://www.wings.org.nz/tickets/index.htm

[Banditbandit]

Hodor.....



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[James Deuce]

Scouse has been doing that a lot today. It makes me giggle.

[nudemetalz]

I must be behind the times as I didn't know what "Hodor" was.
Urban Dictionary to the rescue....

"A word used for a variety of things, ranging from a fierce battlecry to expressing one's emotions like a ret***ed stable boy"

(edited as I don't like that word)

[Berries]

I must be behind the times as I didn't know what "Hodor" was.
Urban Dictionary to the rescue....

"A word used for a variety of things, ranging from a fierce battlecry to expressing one's emotions like a ret***ed stable boy"

(edited as I don't like that word)
I can't imagine what a retired stable boy sounds like, other than a bit hoarse.

[nudemetalz]

Hodor.....
Let me guess,...you own a Hodor CB360 ....

[BuzzardNZ]

I went to this today. Was pretty good but not as good as the last one two years ago.

What did others think about it?

[ducatilover]

I was at the saturday show, 'twas magic

[Mo NZ]

There is a Vampire or similar that seems to come over my house about every 3 weeks or so. Sometimes he is fanging it but mostly he is cruising.