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G4L4XY
21st January 2013, 21:37
Second oil change due now since having the Honda. First one ended up sticking with the filter as I didn't have the tool to get it off. Now it's due to be changed and I even have the strap tool. Turns out it sux though and I'm back to square one :facepalm: :violin:

Tried brute strength with bare hands. Tried the same with the stupid strap tool. I'm not that keen on stabbing it to death with a screwdriver though at the rate I'm going I think I'd rather enjoy killing it :bash:

I've seen that a leather belt might help so I might try that. Another one is that 3 pronged thingy that wraps over it and you use a wrench to undo it (seems rather smart, why didn't I buy said 3 pronged thing instead of stupid strap thing)

Whoever put it on in the first place :ar15:

Anyone got any tips. I've never had trouble like this whether it's on cars or my first bike ffs

ducatilover
21st January 2013, 22:53
I'd just bash a screw driver through it...
I made a leather filter tool a while back though, it's never failed to pull a filter off :Punk:

gammaguy
21st January 2013, 23:51
i sell the correct tools on trade me and also my website:yes:

unstuck
22nd January 2013, 06:40
Pump pliers, works for me.:Punk::Punk:

sinfull
22nd January 2013, 07:09
I say Stab it, but be sure you can get a good turn with the first stab !

Don't make the same mistake of over tightening it like the last owner did, good rule i follow is don't use the tool to do it up, hand tight, as tight as i can by hand that is works !!! Smear of oil over the rubber seal too !

G4L4XY
22nd January 2013, 07:53
Pump pliers, works for me.:Punk::Punk:

Wtf are those lol


I say Stab it, but be sure you can get a good turn with the first stab !

Don't make the same mistake of over tightening it like the last owner did, good rule i follow is don't use the tool to do it up, hand tight, as tight as i can by hand that is works !!! Smear of oil over the rubber seal too !

I've always ever only done up by hand, it's like it's welded on *sigh*


i sell the correct tools on trade me and also my website:yes:

I'm looking now...

unstuck
22nd January 2013, 07:56
Call yourself a man, Pfft.:devil2:

Ruahine
22nd January 2013, 08:05
Hey man. I have the same bike. I used that three pronged wrench you talked about. Not the webbing type ones they are useless.

I had to get the coolant reservoir out of the way but otherwise it was easy to get off. I also found that even when hand-tightened they are hard to get off.

Good luck

Zedder
22nd January 2013, 08:17
The socket type filter tool like gammaguy sells are really good.

Geeen
22nd January 2013, 08:44
Call yourself a man, Pfft.:devil2:

Aaahhh, multi-grips.

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G4L4XY
22nd January 2013, 09:55
Call yourself a man, Pfft.:devil2:

haha oh thooooose things, I will search the garage later tonight, hopefully i will find a pair


Hey man. I have the same bike. I used that three pronged wrench you talked about. Not the webbing type ones they are useless.

I had to get the coolant reservoir out of the way but otherwise it was easy to get off. I also found that even when hand-tightened they are hard to get off.

Good luck

Can I borrow it? Yeah stupid coolant, gets in the way and is just annoying, ended up spilling some this morning during my second attempt.

imdying
22nd January 2013, 10:31
Big screwdriver so it doesn't just shred it and has the length to get some torque on it.

Big slip jaw pliers will have at it in short order too.

I'm a total tool whore, but even I've not bothered with the 'correct tool'.

Danger Dave
22nd January 2013, 10:38
when i do oil changes i always use the K&N oil filters as they have a handy 17mm nut attached to the end of them which makes it a breeze to change.

SPP
22nd January 2013, 10:45
>07 CBR600RR?

One bolt to get the coolant reservoir out of the way then multi-grip pliers. Heaps of room.

Grip the end of the filter (if you can crush it all the better) and loosen.

If you don’t have any pliers then punch a screw driver through it but watch out for the oil cooler right beside it.

They tighten over time so be prepared to do the same next change.

Piece of piss.

Flip
22nd January 2013, 11:05
Poly grips, are your best friend.

Krayy
22nd January 2013, 11:10
In the kitchen I have a Silicon pot holder that has a textured grip and I use that for anythign that needs good grip like jars etc. Works like a frickin champ.

imdying
22nd January 2013, 11:30
That's a good point.. Tupperware make a jar opener called 'The Boyfriend' which is just a rubberised cloth for adding grip. Works really well. Never had the balls to liberate it from the kitchen though... SWMBO loves her Tupperware like I love my tools :hug:

HenryDorsetCase
22nd January 2013, 11:50
and remember: lefty loosy, righty tighty......

G4L4XY
22nd January 2013, 13:00
and remember: lefty loosy, righty tighty......

Righty tighty...what? are you kidding...oh no no no, this cannot be!!!! nah kidding.


In the kitchen I have a Silicon pot holder that has a textured grip and I use that for anythign that needs good grip like jars etc. Works like a frickin champ.

I don't believe such a thing exists where im living, sounds like a good idea


when i do oil changes i always use the K&N oil filters as they have a handy 17mm nut attached to the end of them which makes it a breeze to change.

this sounds bloody marvelous, stupid thing is i already have a replacement filter, ffs..ill just put this one on loose then when it tightens ill be winning! thats if i ever get it off :(

Ruahine
22nd January 2013, 13:56
Can I borrow it? Yeah stupid coolant, gets in the way and is just annoying, ended up spilling some this morning during my second attempt.

Yeah you are welcome to borrow it - I am away for two weeks from tomorrow afternoon so you would have to pick it up tonight or tomorrow morning.

PM me if you want.

ducatilover
22nd January 2013, 14:11
I'm a total tool whore, but even I've not bothered with the 'correct tool'.

Same here, it really isn't needed. Just like the old square drive Suzuki valve adjust tools
And hammers that aren't huge.

Fast Eddie
22nd January 2013, 14:25
Tried brute strength with bare hands. Tried the same with the stupid strap tool. I'm not that keen on stabbing it to death with a screwdriver

I use the strap tool.. works everytime on bikes/cars all kinds of contraptions.. don't be weakling

big screw driver right through it will get it off.. you ain't using it again anyway!

Akzle
22nd January 2013, 15:29
how does the strap tool not f*ing work??, wind it roundey round, get your breaker bar in the end of it and it'll spin... else multigrips, close to the thread, and smack the fuck out of something with a hammer to break the seal.

G4L4XY
22nd January 2013, 15:47
276954

I have this thing not that material strap

unstuck
22nd January 2013, 16:57
Those thing are crap, throw it away. And get some pump pliers, multi grips, flexi grips or whatever else you want to name them, but get some.:2thumbsup

Akzle
22nd January 2013, 18:03
Those thing are crap, throw it away. And get some pump pliers, multi grips, flexi grips or whatever else you want to name them, but get some.:2thumbsup

i'm quite curious where "pump pliers" came from.
sounds like some ignorant plumber mother f*er (aren't they all) didn't know what they were called and didn't want to ask the apprentice to "pass the blue handled bizos" for fear of being called a dick...

actungbaby
22nd January 2013, 18:23
I'd just bash a screw driver through it...
I made a leather filter tool a while back though, it's never failed to pull a filter off :Punk:

Yes yes car typyes are useless just pick spot closer to the end but not to close to end and punch

a Sharp edge screw driver through it

unstuck
22nd January 2013, 18:42
i'm quite curious where "pump pliers" came from.
sounds like some ignorant plumber mother f*er (aren't they all) didn't know what they were called and didn't want to ask the apprentice to "pass the blue handled bizos" for fear of being called a dick...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongue-and-groove_pliers :devil2::2thumbsup

Imagine asking for the tongue and groove pliers, some fuker would hand you a floorboard.

Coldrider
22nd January 2013, 18:52
A 'thermic lance' would remove it, no bruised knuckles and oil stains.

unstuck
22nd January 2013, 18:55
A 'thermic lance' would remove it, no bruised knuckles and oil stains.

And anything else attached to the bike.:2thumbsup

Coldrider
22nd January 2013, 18:59
And anything else attached to the bike.:2thumbsupno, there would be no evidence of a bike.:oi-grr:

actungbaby
22nd January 2013, 19:00
In the kitchen I have a Silicon pot holder that has a textured grip and I use that for anythign that needs good grip like jars etc. Works like a frickin champ.

With alot jars if you dont mind hole in the top just tap hole in the top and realease air seal

It open easy as mind you Silicon pot holer sounds cool

actungbaby
22nd January 2013, 19:01
That's a good point.. Tupperware make a jar opener called 'The Boyfriend' which is just a rubberised cloth for adding grip. Works really well. Never had the balls to liberate it from the kitchen though... SWMBO loves her Tupperware like I love my tools :hug:

gezz my wife calls out where you taking the sissors i have to hide them in my pocket go out to

the garage

Coldrider
22nd January 2013, 19:08
With alot jars if you dont mind hole in the top just tap hole in the top and realease air seal

It open easy as mind you Silicon pot holer sounds coolThat's an idea, drill a hole in the end of the oil filter, pour in some jetfuel. Ignite a lighter at the outlet of the hole, when the fuel heats up you have a filter that is a pulse jet.

Akzle
22nd January 2013, 19:10
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongue-and-groove_pliers :devil2::2thumbsup

Imagine asking for the tongue and groove pliers, some fuker would hand you a floorboard.

kindof makes sense. they have a tongue and several grooves. i'll stick with multigrips.

Coldrider
22nd January 2013, 19:14
kindof makes sense. they have a tongue and several grooves. i'll stick with multigrips.would that be left or right handed?

Akzle
22nd January 2013, 19:15
A 'thermic lance' would remove it, no bruised knuckles and oil stains.

they're neat. but O2 isn't cheap. had some really got rods once, stainless welding ones, for the core. 9120s i think. that shit would melt concrete.

G4L4XY
22nd January 2013, 20:28
ok so I ended up going with the screwdriver through the b*tch and she's off and happily draining out overnight

spanner spinner
22nd January 2013, 21:32
ok so I ended up going with the screwdriver through the b*tch and she's off and happily draining out overnight

I see these all the time at work overtightened, driving a scewdriver through them is not a great idear as if done wrong parts of the filter can end up in the oil system. The better way to get the filter off for next time is to drive the base of the filter where it is rolled together using the screwdriver like a punch. This will free the filter with out having to drive the screwdriver through it, just be carefull not to scratch the sealing surface of the engine/oil filter face.

G4L4XY
22nd January 2013, 23:49
I see these all the time at work overtightened, driving a scewdriver through them is not a great idear as if done wrong parts of the filter can end up in the oil system. The better way to get the filter off for next time is to drive the base of the filter where it is rolled together using the screwdriver like a punch. This will free the filter with out having to drive the screwdriver through it, just be carefull not to scratch the sealing surface of the engine/oil filter face.

That sounds pretty risky especially up next to the body of the bike itself, one slip....all I did was hammer it in a small way right at the end of the filter and once it start turning I was all good. Hopefully no more occurrences though as this one wont be going on crazy tight.

p.dath
23rd January 2013, 07:13
I would go to a motorcycle shop (such as Cyclestreads in Auckland) and get the adaptor that fits over the end of the oil filter that you attach a wrench too, and try unscrewing it that way.

If that doesn't work, perhaps try CRC/penetrating grease on it a little while to see if it loosens it.


And as silly as it sounds, make sure you are undoing it the correct way.

HenryDorsetCase
23rd January 2013, 07:23
That's an idea, drill a hole in the end of the oil filter, pour in some jetfuel. Ignite a lighter at the outlet of the hole, when the fuel heats up you have a filter that is a pulse jet.

genius: you'll need airflow though so perhaps light the blue touchpaper then run it off a cliff? It might, you know, take flight.

also: Pics plz.

Coldrider
23rd January 2013, 18:08
genius: you'll need airflow though so perhaps light the blue touchpaper then run it off a cliff? It might, you know, take flight.

also: Pics plz.pics, glad you asked, don't try this at home, use someone elses home.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb2Cl03E3t4