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Paul in NZ
23rd January 2013, 07:20
Look that was a terrible crime, no doubt about it.... Hopefully something will eventually change in Indian society but ....
Anyway - good for the people wanting to force a change but...
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/8210037/Women-turn-to-self-defence-pepper-spray/
Whenever anyone gets out a camera in India there seems to be a crowd of bored, hacked off looking men forms up.... Um.... Is it just me or do these guys look a bit like potential rapists??? WTF do these guys DO other than wait about for camera opportunities?
HenryDorsetCase
23rd January 2013, 07:26
Well at least one of them is lurking about the Port Hills
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/8203741/Port-Hills-groper-targeting-women
Seriously though, hatred and oppression of women is endemic in those stone age societies. Fuck them.
unstuck
23rd January 2013, 07:41
Seriously though, hatred and oppression of women is endemic in those stone age societies. Fuck them.
Yeah, fuck em. Primitive mofos.:ar15::ar15::ar15:
300weatherby
23rd January 2013, 08:27
Yeah, fuck em. Primitive mofos.:ar15::ar15::ar15:
And every day, their numbers build in our country, and they bring with them their attitudes and inbuilt behaviours.
London now has a less than 50% anglo saxon population base, and in some areas fuckwit islamist types are attempting to impose sharia type laws, imagine if the english had mmp as a political system.....
THERE ARE MUSLIM CONTROLED AREAS IN PARIS WHERE THE POLICE WILL NOT GO!!!!!
MMP will eventually give power to the asian and third world rubbish flooding into our country, our population is too small to resist what is coming if we do not get rid of MMP
SMOKEU
23rd January 2013, 08:42
The Indians are saints compared to the Muslims. They have no respect for females at all.
unstuck
23rd January 2013, 09:02
And every day, their numbers build in our country, and they bring with them their attitudes and inbuilt behaviours.
London now has a less than 50% anglo saxon population base, and in some areas fuckwit islamist types are attempting to impose sharia type laws, imagine if the english had mmp as a political system.....
THERE ARE MUSLIM CONTROLED AREAS IN PARIS WHERE THE POLICE WILL NOT GO!!!!!
MMP will eventually give power to the asian and third world rubbish flooding into our country, our population is too small to resist what is coming if we do not get rid of MMP
Thats why my folks moved to nz from yorkshire.Really glad they did.:2thumbsup
Grizzo
23rd January 2013, 09:19
Watch the guy in the red shirt...keep watching.:whistle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqAqwwoExqg
Swoop
23rd January 2013, 09:27
Another bus rape in India recently. Surely some of the other 200 passengers on the bus could have prevented it?
Tink
23rd January 2013, 09:36
That was definitely creepy... anyone that stares like that has a problem!:dodge:
Banditbandit
23rd January 2013, 11:00
Thats why my folks moved to nz from yorkshire.Really glad they did.:2thumbsup
So ... you are from an immigrant family taking over our country???
I know I've used soemthing similar before .. but it's appropriate ...
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSYCHCfqx9brPm8f5bX92_Nr99vB-LBTtiDL04jO-A8rxO8OH-g
unstuck
23rd January 2013, 11:06
So ... you are from an immigrant family taking over our country???
Yep, this is a fucking English owned country anyway.:devil2::bleh:
Banditbandit
23rd January 2013, 11:14
Yep, this is a fucking English owned country anyway.:devil2::bleh:
I thought it was about time we declared a Republic ...
awa355
23rd January 2013, 11:26
I thought it was about time we declared a Republic ...
We cant grow Bananas here, so there goes the only form of republic this govt could run. :banana:
Banditbandit
23rd January 2013, 11:57
We cant grow Bananas here, so there goes the only form of republic this govt could run. :banana:
'course we can .. go here ...
http://www.podgardening.co.nz/banana.html
So .. we are already a banana republic
willytheekid
23rd January 2013, 11:58
...at the rate there going...the problem will fix itself! (as well as there over population problem)
http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/06/06/where-have-all-the-girls-gone/
the sick bastards!...you reap what you sow!!
HenryDorsetCase
23rd January 2013, 12:07
I thought it was about time we declared a Republic ...
just to take up that point, I am theoretically all in favour of a republic. Even (given our population base) a US style system with very clear checks and balances between the executive, legislative and judicial roles. We wouldnt need a bicameral system or the electoral college or any of that malarkey. The other thing we dont need in my view is political parties. direct election of representatives by the electorate. Also, of course the franchise should be limited to those with skin in the game: so property ownership is qualification for franchise.
That's that sorted. The constitutional monarchy is troubling though. Its history is one of oppression, and I personally find the massive personal wealth engendered from that system quite troubling. Sure it is glossed over and veneered with "Oh, its traditional", and "Oh, isn't the Queen great" and "Oh, the tourists love it" and "Oh look at the pretty ponies and the carriage and the dudes with the funny hats". So, sure, get rid of it here in our nuclear free south pacific paradise. We all like the illusion of democracy, so we create a republic. Who is our President? i.e. who do we replace as titular head of state? Thats where your problem sits, right? because of the very very small talent pool in this country, and the often appalling calibre of our politicians then finding someone to fill the role might be an issue. I suppose persons who were Governors-General might be OK: Jerry Mataparae for example or Anand Satyanand.
Your thoughts callers?
unstuck
23rd January 2013, 12:15
Brian Tamiki for president.:devil2::ar15::ar15:
Clockwork
23rd January 2013, 12:27
just to take up that point, I am theoretically all in favour of a republic. Even (given our population base) a US style system with very clear checks and balances between the executive, legislative and judicial roles. We wouldnt need a bicameral system or the electoral college or any of that malarkey. The other thing we dont need in my view is political parties. direct election of representatives by the electorate. Also, of course the franchise should be limited to those with skin in the game: so property ownership is qualification for franchise.
That's that sorted. The constitutional monarchy is troubling though. Its history is one of oppression, and I personally find the massive personal wealth engendered from that system quite troubling. Sure it is glossed over and veneered with "Oh, its traditional", and "Oh, isn't the Queen great" and "Oh, the tourists love it" and "Oh look at the pretty ponies and the carriage and the dudes with the funny hats". So, sure, get rid of it here in our nuclear free south pacific paradise. We all like the illusion of democracy, so we create a republic. Who is our President? i.e. who do we replace as titular head of state? Thats where your problem sits, right? because of the very very small talent pool in this country, and the often appalling calibre of our politicians then finding someone to fill the role might be an issue. I suppose persons who were Governors-General might be OK: Jerry Mataparae for example or Anand Satyanand.
Your thoughts callers?
You are only going to get the likes of Jerry Mataparae or Anand Satyanand if the post is politically appointed, but of course we'd (th' pepul) would demand that the post was democratically elected, in which case we'd end up with the likes of our pollies in the job. Frankly I can't think of one of that lot that I'd like to see as our head of state.
Swoop
23rd January 2013, 12:55
We cant grow Bananas here, so there goes the only form of republic this govt could run.
I don't believe so. From previous political decisions over many decades, we have ample evidence that NZ really meets the criteria for being a Banana Republic...
About the only thing lacking are military parades and politicians wearing a bit of uniform on a regular basis. Once we get that though...:(
rebel
23rd January 2013, 13:37
And every day, their numbers build in our country, and they bring with them their attitudes and inbuilt behaviours.
London now has a less than 50% anglo saxon population base, and in some areas fuckwit islamist types are attempting to impose sharia type laws, imagine if the english had mmp as a political system.....
THERE ARE MUSLIM CONTROLED AREAS IN PARIS WHERE THE POLICE WILL NOT GO!!!!!
MMP will eventually give power to the asian and third world rubbish flooding into our country, our population is too small to resist what is coming if we do not get rid of MMP
Oh the irony, the biggest supporters of such scum flooding into our countries, are the fuckwit left libtards, many man hating femi-nazis. Fact is these hypocritical bitches hate white western men and traditional family values. I would like to see each and everyone of them walk down a dark alley in Muslim infested areas of Ansterdam, London, Paris Brussels etc to experience the reality of the diversity they desire and promote. The are oh so silent everytime an African Arab Indian etc with no respect for women or our culture/values commits a sexual assult on a woman, some first hand experience might change their tune.
Banditbandit
23rd January 2013, 14:00
That's that sorted. The constitutional monarchy is troubling though. Its history is one of oppression, and I personally find the massive personal wealth engendered from that system quite troubling. Sure it is glossed over and veneered with "Oh, its traditional", and "Oh, isn't the Queen great" and "Oh, the tourists love it" and "Oh look at the pretty ponies and the carriage and the dudes with the funny hats". So, sure, get rid of it here in our nuclear free south pacific paradise. We all like the illusion of democracy, so we create a republic. Who is our President? i.e. who do we replace as titular head of state? Thats where your problem sits, right? because of the very very small talent pool in this country, and the often appalling calibre of our politicians then finding someone to fill the role might be an issue. I suppose persons who were Governors-General might be OK: Jerry Mataparae for example or Anand Satyanand.
Your thoughts callers?
So you favour a hereditary system drawing on a very shallow gene pool of the Euopean Royal Families over a meritocracy or democratic election of presidents?
"Titular Heads of State" are not really there by divine right - they are there by the legitimation processes of the people . "Some watery tart distributing swords is no mandate for executive authority" (The peasents are revolting)
HenryDorsetCase
23rd January 2013, 14:05
Oh the irony, the biggest supporters of such scum flooding into our countries, are the fuckwit left libtards, many man hating femi-nazis. Fact is these hypocritical bitches hate white western men and traditional family values. I would like to see each and everyone of them walk down a dark alley in Muslim infested areas of Ansterdam, London, Paris Brussels etc to experience the reality of the diversity they desire and promote. The are oh so silent everytime an African Arab Indian etc with no respect for women or our culture/values commits a sexual assult on a woman, some first hand experience might change their tune.
I dunno, man. You're not doing yourself any favours.
unstuck
23rd January 2013, 14:07
Yeah, I dont think wishing someone to get raped is the way forward somehow.:tugger:
HenryDorsetCase
23rd January 2013, 14:09
So you favour a hereditary system drawing on a very shallow gene pool of the Euopean Royal Families over a meritocracy or democratic election of presidents?
"Titular Heads of State" are not really there by divine right - they are there by the legitimation processes of the people . "Some water tart distributing swords is no mandate for executive authority" (The peasents are revolting)
don't undersetimate my apathy on the issue.
but since I am a fairly militant atheist, I completely agree with you as to the absence of divine right.
I see it as two fairly unattractive options: the hereditary system, which as you say draws on a shallow gene pool, vs some sort of populist popularity contest. Neither are that attractive.
Democracy in its purest (so Athens and the senate and whatnot) form won't work either: well, it works for land (and slave) owning men, but it misses a few fairly significant groups who today would be interest groups.
Why can't we all just get along? People are people, mostly. Some good, some bad, and fundamentally fairly similar.
rebel
23rd January 2013, 14:23
I dunno, man. You're not doing yourself any favours.
You're right, reading that again I worded it wrong. I wouldn't like to see anyone walk down a Muslim infested alleyway, but as they say some people may need to learn the hard way before waking up.
Paul in NZ
23rd January 2013, 14:32
Gleep - this is all going horribly wrong and doing as much to demonstrate what a bunch of plonkers we are as much as anything else.
I don't think the indian rape issue is anything to do with religion but rather its an economic / cultural thing. Too many men with too much time on their hands coupled with a relatively corrupt law enforcement etc. Same can be said for a lot of Islamic countries - general lawlessness rather than a lack of legal protection.
The illustration I was using was that of the picture in the stuff article which showed a group of men standing around with feck all to do when they should have been at work. On reflection their job possibly WAS to stand about and gawp gormlessly and mildly threateningly at cameras taking pictures of a woman protesting.
HenryDorsetCase
23rd January 2013, 14:44
Gleep - this is all going horribly wrong and doing as much to demonstrate what a bunch of plonkers we are as much as anything else.
I don't think the indian rape issue is anything to do with religion but rather its an economic / cultural thing. Too many men with too much time on their hands coupled with a relatively corrupt law enforcement etc. Same can be said for a lot of Islamic countries - general lawlessness rather than a lack of legal protection.
The illustration I was using was that of the picture in the stuff article which showed a group of men standing around with feck all to do when they should have been at work. On reflection their job possibly WAS to stand about and gawp gormlessly and mildly threateningly at cameras taking pictures of a woman protesting.
they were the "secret" police.....
Paul in NZ
23rd January 2013, 14:50
they were the "secret" police.....
No I think they were the undercover thugs....
Genestho
23rd January 2013, 15:07
Found it interesting when I lived in Aus to see Muslims flood into the Gold coast during winter, their women in Burqa's with metal muzzles over their mouths while their men with the scary dull black eyes filmed western women on the beaches - sometimes bold enough to come right up to girls sunbathing and getting in their space, rather intimidating!!
300weatherby
23rd January 2013, 15:20
Gleep - this is all going horribly wrong and doing as much to demonstrate what a bunch of plonkers we are as much as anything else.
I don't think the indian rape issue is anything to do with religion but rather its an economic / cultural thing. Too many men with too much time on their hands coupled with a relatively corrupt law enforcement etc. Same can be said for a lot of Islamic countries - general lawlessness rather than a lack of legal protection.
The illustration I was using was that of the picture in the stuff article which showed a group of men standing around with feck all to do when they should have been at work. On reflection their job possibly WAS to stand about and gawp gormlessly and mildly threateningly at cameras taking pictures of a woman protesting.
We have a few of the rubbish level indians moved into a couple of the multi unit rental blocks we are unfortunate enough to have in our area. Didn't even know they were there untill the indian rubbish moved in, 10 to a two bedroom flat, hanging around on the street, literally stinking out their immediate area with whatever gargage it is that they actually cook. Stinking rubbish left to pile up around their units, some left lying on the street when the rubbish collection won't take it, You should watch the way they look at the women that have to walk past them, you can read on them what they are, my dog hates them, and l didn't coach him to,:bash: they fuck off out of it when l walk through them, caus like all bully in a group wankers, they recognise simmering rage about to explode all over them, We have had one incident when one of them got smart to the wife as she walked past them with our little Sydney Silky, dumb fucks hadn't clicked that the bloke with the big German Shepherd that walked past a minute before, was with her - she called out to me and I returned pronto.
Won't bore you with the details, sufice to say they think I am completely off my trolley, and they don't want a bar of me. Anyone on here that knows me will understand why.
That incident coupled with the news and net information, and their basic history as people, has irretreivably coloured my perception of them, we do not need this rubbish in our country. A shame the politically correct, bleeding heart dogooder, self emasculating morons that think we should all get along, and that we should sacrifice such culture and heritage we have to bend over for others, do not realise,
THEY WILL NOT DO THE SAME FOR US. :bash:
Paul in NZ
23rd January 2013, 16:38
THEY WILL NOT DO THE SAME FOR US. :bash:
Well I do have a few Indian mates and colleagues but i guess we aint talking about the same people here...
You do raise a valid point but but its nothing to do with race. (IMHO) Cultures don't always play well together rather than races or religion...
I guess the folks you describe are refugees or summat and its a tough job starting from scratch some place else
Road kill
23rd January 2013, 17:04
And every day, their numbers build in our country, and they bring with them their attitudes and inbuilt behaviours.
London now has a less than 50% anglo saxon population base, and in some areas fuckwit islamist types are attempting to impose sharia type laws, imagine if the english had mmp as a political system.....
THERE ARE MUSLIM CONTROLED AREAS IN PARIS WHERE THE POLICE WILL NOT GO!!!!!
MMP will eventually give power to the asian and third world rubbish flooding into our country, our population is too small to resist what is coming if we do not get rid of MMP
When I say that I'm a racist murray cunt,,,,but good on ya'.
300weatherby
23rd January 2013, 17:06
Well I do have a few Indian mates and colleagues but i guess we aint talking about the same people here...
You do raise a valid point but but its nothing to do with race. (IMHO) Cultures don't always play well together rather than races or religion...
I guess the folks you describe are refugees or summat and its a tough job starting from scratch some place else
Yep, I am focusing on a particular type, there is white trash too, it's just on a percentage basis, there are so many of them by comparason, we risk over time being swamped by them, The wife has an Indian friend/ business associate who is older, educated and old school about being a civilized person, him I like.
Banditbandit
24th January 2013, 14:43
don't undersetimate my apathy on the issue.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Yeah .. I feel your pain .. my apathy on this issue is pretty high .. my once very high enthusiasm for a repblic died many years ago .. now I just don't really give a fuck ..
but since I am a fairly militant atheist, I completely agree with you as to the absence of divine right.
I see it as two fairly unattractive options: the hereditary system, which as you say draws on a shallow gene pool, vs some sort of populist popularity contest. Neither are that attractive.
Democracy in its purest (so Athens and the senate and whatnot) form won't work either: well, it works for land (and slave) owning men, but it misses a few fairly significant groups who today would be interest groups.
Why can't we all just get along? People are people, mostly. Some good, some bad, and fundamentally fairly similar.
Yeah .. but human beings just can't .. fuck all of the "great" apes can ... argumentative, squabbling bunch .. chimps like causing each other (and other animals ) pain .. and laugh when they do ..
It's deeply biological in us ..
Banditbandit
24th January 2013, 14:50
We have a few of the rubbish level indians moved into a couple of the multi unit rental blocks we are unfortunate enough to have in our area. Didn't even know they were there untill the indian rubbish moved in, 10 to a two bedroom flat, hanging around on the street, literally stinking out their immediate area with whatever gargage it is that they actually cook. Stinking rubbish left to pile up around their units, some left lying on the street when the rubbish collection won't take it, You should watch the way they look at the women that have to walk past them, you can read on them what they are, my dog hates them, and l didn't coach him to,:bash: they fuck off out of it when l walk through them, caus like all bully in a group wankers, they recognise simmering rage about to explode all over them, We have had one incident when one of them got smart to the wife as she walked past them with our little Sydney Silky, dumb fucks hadn't clicked that the bloke with the big German Shepherd that walked past a minute before, was with her - she called out to me and I returned pronto.
Kinda the Indian equivalent of these people then ...
http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Business/images-3/white-trash-family.jpg
300weatherby
24th January 2013, 21:30
At least they don't give you the creeps, was that your brother on the left? - one of the block of flats I refered to has had a skip in, rubbish gone and cooking stench gone too, flats empty, outstanding!
Ender EnZed
24th January 2013, 22:45
Yep, I am focusing on a particular type, there is white trash too, it's just on a percentage basis, there are so many of them by comparason
Just to be clear; we're talking about poor people here, right? Fuck I hate those stupid, lazy cunts.
flyingcrocodile46
25th January 2013, 16:57
Someone should get the SPCA to step in and sort them out.
scumdog
25th January 2013, 17:59
Kinda the Indian equivalent of these people then ...
Wow, Pakuranga hasn't changed that much at all since I was last there...:shit:
300weatherby
25th January 2013, 20:08
Just to be clear; we're talking about poor people here, right? Fuck I hate those stupid, lazy cunts.
Wake up, pay attention to overseas trends, we (NZ) always wind up with our polititions making the same mistakes as made in the US, UK, and Europe.
Mass immigration of the bottom feeder, refos, and their attitudes and ethos, complete unwillingness to assimilate into the country/society
they get into, has, caused major problems, criminally and socially. We do not have the population base to provide meaningfull resistance.
I want the immigration door slammed shut, and only those who can add value to, and assimilate into, be allowed, and no bringing in rellies.
The internet has allowed thorough research into the best countries with the lowest entry standards ,to get the best handouts off the back of the taxpayer, and the softest laws and greatest potential to bring in 50 rellies, naturally, you don't mind this, untill they live over your fence that is..........
insane1
26th January 2013, 08:04
if those lazy fuken indian immigrants come to nz they should at least speak english ,dont bring all your bullshit practices with you that includes your crap religon ,your in nz now adapt to kiwi ways or fuck off back to your third world shithole of a dive.
unstuck
26th January 2013, 08:24
Personaly I think England will see some real hard out race wars in the future. The last time I walked down Dominion rd in Auckland, it was like being in Bradford. :eek:
Kickaha
26th January 2013, 08:34
your in nz now adapt to kiwi ways or fuck off back to your third world shithole of a dive.
You should tell that to the poms as well
Coolz
26th January 2013, 10:21
if those lazy fuken indian immigrants come to nz they should at least speak english ,dont bring all your bullshit practices with you that includes your crap religon ,your in nz now adapt to kiwi ways or fuck off back to your third world shithole of a dive.
English is an official language in India.
Oscar
26th January 2013, 10:35
if those lazy fuken indian immigrants come to nz they should at least speak english ,dont bring all your bullshit practices with you that includes your crap religon ,your in nz now adapt to kiwi ways or fuck off back to your third world shithole of a dive.
This "english" you speak of, it's not related to English is it?
You see that language has things like grammar and punctuation, and those aspects tend to show up people such as yourself for the stupid ignorant fuckwits that you undoubtedly are.
insane1
26th January 2013, 10:52
hey oscar kindly go and fuck yourself.
James Deuce
26th January 2013, 11:15
This "english" you speak of, it's not related to English is it?
You see that language has things like grammar and punctuation, and those aspects tend to show up people such as yourself for the stupid ignorant fuckwits that you undoubtedly are.
It would be good to start this particular argument fom a position of strength, wouldn't it? :msn-wink:
Oscar
26th January 2013, 13:25
It would be good to start this particular argument fom a position of strength, wouldn't it? :msn-wink:
I could care less.
Ignorant fools like him are dragging this country down.
It's amazing that he could arrive at a site like this one, which is already replete with idjuts, and still manage to lower the tone.
Oscar
26th January 2013, 13:25
hey oscar kindly go and fuck yourself.
Make me, you odious racist little man.
Headbanger
26th January 2013, 13:40
if those lazy fuken indian immigrants come to nz they should at least speak english ,dont bring all your bullshit practices with you that includes your crap religon ,your in nz now adapt to kiwi ways or fuck off back to your third world shithole of a dive.
I take it you practise what you preach?
In which case you speak fluent Maori and have adopted their traditions,customs and beliefs?
Oh wait, we just arse fucked them and had a good laugh.
Headbanger
26th January 2013, 13:41
From the joke thread.
What makes 9 out of 10 people happy?
Gang rape.
Fuck me I laughed long and loud, then I told it to the wife.
Happy days.
Edbear
26th January 2013, 16:56
I could care less.
Ignorant fools like him are dragging this country down.
It's amazing that he could arrive at a site like this one, which is already replete with idjuts, and still manage to lower the tone.
The expression is, "I couldn't care less." Unless you do mean you don't care less... :doh:
GSF
26th January 2013, 17:09
if those lazy fuken indian immigrants come to nz they should at least speak english ,dont bring all your bullshit practices with you that includes your crap religon ,your in nz now adapt to kiwi ways or fuck off back to your third world shithole of a dive.
I like how your post had nothing to do with the actual issue here and everything to do with your uninformed bigotry. Nice work! :niceone:
Oscar
26th January 2013, 18:30
The expression is, "I couldn't care less." Unless you do mean you don't care less... :doh:
You're either not well read or very old (or both).
"I could care less" is American ironic slang.
Edbear
26th January 2013, 18:34
You're either not well read or very old (or both).
"I could care less" is American ironic slang.
Very old... :innocent:
Oscar
26th January 2013, 18:41
Very old... :innocent:
It dates back to the sixties. Google it - there is continuing fierce debate on the internet about the contradictory nature of the phrase.
Edbear
26th January 2013, 18:48
It dates back to the sixties. Google it - there is continuing fierce debate on the internet about the contradictory nature of the phrase.
I've only recently seen this expression, though. I was brought up on English English and haven't heard all the Americanisms' yet.
Headbanger
26th January 2013, 19:15
You're either not well read or very old (or both).
"I could care less" is American ironic slang.
Its idiotic.
It came into use because soime people are as thick as pig shit and don't even understand what they them,selves are saying.
The claim its said in an ironic way is what happens when a dumb fuck gets caught out for being a dumb fuck.
Headbanger
26th January 2013, 19:17
I've only recently seen this expression, though. I was brought up on English English and haven't heard all the Americanisms' yet.
No such thing I'm afraid, At any point in time English is and has been used in different forms within the same country, within the same town, within the same house. The only way to hold it still long enough to define it is to kill it, an d then instantly lose touch with what it is.
Anyone trying to lock the English language into a standard from a single place, at a single time is deluded. It is whatever the people using it make it.
Edbear
26th January 2013, 19:29
No such thing I'm afraid, At any point in time English is and has been used in different forms within the same country, within the same town, within the same house. The only way to hold it still long enough to define it is to kill it, an d then instantly lose touch with what it is.
Anyone trying to lock the English language into a standard from a single place, at a single time is deluded. It is whatever the people using it make it.
Personally I am saddened that the key reason the language is changing is due to uneducated ignorance of correct words and grammar. So many fail to use words correctly and rather than learn the correct words and their meanings and the context of grammar, they simply don't care and carry on.
There're two, to and too; there, their and they're; break and brake and on and on... Grammar is simply beyond many to understand at all.
English has changed and survived by taking on other languages and adopting or adapting them but these days it is just a lack of education among more and more of the population, including teachers and those in a position where correct use is necessary, or at least important and desirable. :Offtopic:
Oscar
26th January 2013, 19:47
Its idiotic.
It came into use because soime people are as thick as pig shit and don't even understand what they them,selves are saying.
The claim its said in an ironic way is what happens when a dumb fuck gets caught out for being a dumb fuck.
I defer to your obvious area of expertise...
Paul in NZ
26th January 2013, 20:27
Um - OK...
One small point. An inability to properly express or even identify exactly what the issue is - does NOT mean that there isnt actually an issue...
300weatherby
26th January 2013, 21:50
I take it you practise what you preach?
In which case you speak fluent Maori and have adopted their traditions,customs and beliefs?
Oh wait, we just arse fucked them and had a good laugh.
Actually, the moari who inhabitated NZ after wiping out the original inhabitants, got a wonderfull deal from the English, the original colonialists, in comparison to the Irish, the Scots, the Welsh. The English even now, still have a political boot, on the neck of those contries. Moari have no right to claim anything. We should not be making any attempt to hold up a genocidal, slave trading, stone age cannabal, infanticide practicing culture as noble and hard done by.
James Deuce
26th January 2013, 21:52
Actually, the moari who inhabitated NZ after wiping out the original inhabitants, got a wonderfull deal from the English, the original colonialists, in comparison to the Irish, the Scots, the Welsh. The English even now, still have a political boot, on the neck of those contries. Moari have no right to claim anything. We should not be making any attempt to hold up a genocidal, slave trading, stone age cannabal, infanticide practicing culture as noble and hard done by.
Oh.
My.
God.
JimO
26th January 2013, 22:12
Oh.
My.
God.
which part dont you agree with
Madness
26th January 2013, 22:18
which part dont you agree with
I'm guessing this bit;
moari who inhabitated NZ after wiping out the original inhabitants...
It's spelled M.a.o.r.i and they'd obviously need to inhabit the country before wiping out it's original inhabitants. It's not like they had long range missiles, innit?
Sable
27th January 2013, 04:04
New Zealand to them was like a visit to McDonalds after a long car trip.
300weatherby
27th January 2013, 11:27
New Zealand to them was like a visit to McDonalds after a long car trip.
That, is funny!:killingme
Banditbandit
29th January 2013, 08:53
Oye .. it's rude to talk abot peope behind their backs ...
Kaua e haere ahau ki tēnei korero i tēnā wikimutunga ...
300weatherby
29th January 2013, 11:46
Oye .. it's rude to talk abot peope behind their backs ...
Kaua e haere ahau ki tēnei korero i tēnā wikimutunga ...
Please explain?
Banditbandit
29th January 2013, 12:56
Please explain?
I came back after the weekend (the Reo Māori part says 'I didn't come here over the weekend') .. and all these Pākehās have been talking asbout Māori .. behind Māori backs
Part joke . part truth ..
Banditbandit
29th January 2013, 12:59
New Zealand to them was like a visit to McDonalds after a long car trip.
That, is funny!:killingme
Yes ... especially when you realize that the word for 'chicken' in the islands they came from is 'Moa' ...
Just imagine ... the waka pulls up on shore ... the people see the birds ... "Fuck .. I think we'll stay here ... just look at the size of those chickens !!! "
300weatherby
29th January 2013, 14:24
I came back after the weekend (the Reo Māori part says 'I didn't come here over the weekend') .. and all these Pākehās have been talking asbout Māori .. behind Māori backs
Part joke . part truth ..
Not sure if you are having a genuine shot or not, so I will be gentle, my sweet....:calm:
Ok, so you be a darkie then, I got mates blacker than, and the shit I give them makes what you see on here pale into insignificance.
Oh, and I am not a "pakihaa" (misspelling deliberate) I am a NEW ZEALANDER.
The bit I missed was when this thread morphed from rational discussion of the rampant invasion of NZ by those who do not bring value to this country, If it's time to bash cheeky darkies, get another thread going, this one is about bloody indians!, you should get with that particular programme too, cause when we lose our country to the asians/indians via stupid MMP, forget about your stupid foreshore gripes, forget about trying to foster a language you think has relevance, forget about relentlessly trying it on to steal the taxpayers dollar, have a long slow look at how things work over there, look at what has happened in Europe and the UK,and consider the future here. They didn't see it coming and neither do those have, and do, run our country. We still have a chance to stop the worst of it if we get rid of MMP.
Banditbandit
29th January 2013, 14:47
Not sure if you are having a genuine shot or not, so I will be gentle, my sweet....:calm:
Ok, so you be a darkie then, I got mates blacker than, and the shit I give them makes what you see on here pale into insignificance.
Context is everything - the jokes we tell each other would probably make most wimpy liberals blush ... I won't say are worse than you've heard .. racist arsheoles like you know some rough ones ... but I don't tell those jokes with people I don't know ...
Oh, and I am not a "pakihaa" (misspelling deliberate) I am a NEW ZEALANDER.
The bit I missed was when this thread morphed from rational discussion of the rampant invasion of NZ
"rational discussion !!! Fuck me ... it might have started that way but recently didn't look that way at all ... and your rant is one of the worst ...
by those who do not bring value to this country,
We've been talking about that for 200 years !!!
If it's time to bash cheeky darkies, get another thread going,
Haven't you noticed - hi-jacking threads is a KB past-time ... and one I enjoy ...
this one is about bloody indians!, you should get with that particular programme too, cause when we lose our country to the asians/indians via stupid MMP, forget about your stupid foreshore gripes, forget about trying to foster a language you think has relevance, forget about relentlessly trying it on to steal the taxpayers dollar, have a long slow look at how things work over there, look at what has happened in Europe and the UK, and consider the future here. They didn't see it coming and neither do those have, and do, run our country. We still have a chance to stop the worst of it if we get rid of MMP.
I add racist arseholes like you to the ignore list ... (and dumb cunts too - on the ignore list)
Headbanger
29th January 2013, 15:43
Actually.......
Means nothing to me, I was pointing out the hypocrisy.
ellipsis
29th January 2013, 16:45
...borders are nothing more than transient lines on a map of the planet...lines that have been moved, eradicated, encroached upon, given up on,fought over, lied about since someone dreamed them up way back when the world as we know it was young...nothing has changed and nothing will change that...the only constant is change...the greatest powers on the planet come and go...anybody who thinks they have rights or deem themselves to be superior or able to hold back the nature of the beast is living in some kind of unreal dream... men have been using violence, murder and rape in all it's ugliness for as long as there have been borders...nothing has changed, civility is only gossamer thin and once the skin of civility is torn, most men act the same...sad but true...
unstuck
29th January 2013, 16:48
...borders are nothing more than transient lines on a map of the planet...lines that have been moved, eradicated, encroached upon, given up on,fought over, lied about since someone dreamed them up way back when the world as we know it was young...nothing has changed and nothing will change that...the only constant is change...the greatest powers on the planet come and go...anybody who thinks they have rights or deem themselves to be superior or able to hold back the nature of the beast is living in some kind of unreal dream... men have been using violence, murder and rape in all it's ugliness for as long as there have been borders...nothing has changed, civility is only gossamer thin and once the skin of civility is torn, most men act the same...sad but true...
Sad but true, agreed.
Paul in NZ
30th January 2013, 07:06
Right - getting back to the rape issue...
I thought that this is a very good piece (yes - from Stuff, I was amazed) that shines a light on the background.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/life/8235649/The-worst-country-to-be-a-woman
"Two cultures are clashing and two world views colliding. The result is increasing violence against women, with rape and acid attacks being the most horrific. Both are intended to subjugate women and teach them their place. "
I found it both interesting and very disturbing...
pete376403
30th January 2013, 11:44
http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/273-40/15693-focus-a-rape-a-minute-a-thousand-corpses-a-year
Not just India.
avgas
30th January 2013, 12:09
MMP will eventually give power to the asian and third world rubbish flooding into our country, our population is too small to resist what is coming if we do not get rid of MMP
I don't see why not. They gave it too those pompous poms first - and they never pulled the carrot out.
We need change. It may not be an improvement - but it will be a change for once.
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