Anyone else watch the Paul Holmes interview on TV1 this evening?

[PrincessBandit]

I watched with a degree of reserve, given that he's been such a controversial figure at times in NZ broadcasting, but to be honest I was touched by his honesty and open acknowledgement of his humanity.
Naysayers might call it a last grasp attempt in the TV spotlight but I thought it was a great interview giving a chance to "set things right" before it's too late.

Having seen first hand a loved one going through the same illness I thought he showed great bravery admitting his fears and thoughts on public television, and understanding just how physically hard it must have been for him to do so.

Kudos to him for doing it.

[James Deuce]

I thought he looked tortured and is desperately searching for peace. It made me realise just how vile the KBers in that other thread are if they are incapable of displaying empathy for a man dying badly.

[FJRider]

And the big "Walkout" interview with Dennis Connor was staged ... :laugh:

[HenryDorsetCase]

I thought he looked tortured and is desperately searching for peace. It made me realise just how vile the KBers in that other thread are if they are incapable of displaying empathy for a man dying badly.

"dying badly"

- there's a good way?


We all go into nothing. Alone and terrified. If we're lucky we're asleep.

Make the best of it, its a one shot deal. Life I mean.

I feel empathetic to Paul Holmes the lonely dying human. I still have contempt for Paul Holmes the broadcaster.

[Madness]

And the big "Walkout" interview with Dennis Connor was staged ... :laugh:

Planned, not staged.

[James Deuce]

"dying badly"

- there's a good way?


Yes, there is. Spend some time with dying people and the key to dying well becomes evident.

[Zedder]

"dying badly"

- there's a good way?


We all go into nothing. Alone and terrified. If we're lucky we're asleep.

Make the best of it, its a one shot deal. Life I mean.

I feel empathetic to Paul Holmes the lonely dying human. I still have contempt for Paul Holmes the broadcaster.

I think Paul Holmes could be in the category of those who are "dying from living well". He's a wealthy person who's had a rich full life by all accounts and I would say he'd also pass away with the maximum of care available.

[oldrider]

I remember his first pathetic radio shows where he irresponsibly talked stupid people into doing even more stupid things, endangering both their lives and other peoples property!

Ratings over responsibility?... Leopards never change their spots and he was a case in point to the end but (shamefully IMHO) he got rewarded for his effort! :facepalm:

I don't personally wish him harm or suffering and I deliberately didn't watch the "interview" (gasp) :mellow:

I must say in his favour though that he expressed strong support for the Paralympics of which NZ media coverage was sparse to say the least and for that he had my gratuitous support! (maybe even a slight hint of respect :yes:)

[pzkpfw]

I thought it was nicely circular, that when the Woman interviewing him gets to the end of her career and they do a "looking back" for her, this interview will surely be mentioned.

[98tls]

I watched with a degree of reserve, given that he's been such a controversial figure at times in NZ broadcasting, but to be honest I was touched by his honesty and open acknowledgement of his humanity.

:laugh:Each to there own i guess but theres lots of people that live there life honestly and accept from day 1 there humanity,I shook my head when i first heard he was getting a Knighthood then remembered where i lived:facepalm:I knew at some stage the ceremony would be on the tele though not when,when it came on i turned it off.There are people in every community across the country far more deserving that never get a mention.

[fuknK1W1]

"dying badly"

- there's a good way?


Maybe not a good way.
Have you ever heard of Rob Tucker...if I could die with half the dignity he died with I'd die a happy man. RIP Rob Tucker 1/2/2007

[unstuck]

This is a man that died with dignity, RIP IZ.

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[SMOKEU]

This is a man that died with dignity, RIP IZ.



Someone needs to show that beached whale which way back to the ocean.

[unstuck]

Someone needs to show that beached whale which way back to the ocean.

He went back into the ocean. Basically ate himself to death.:shifty:

[sugilite]

"dying badly"

- there's a good way?



I'd rather go splat on a bike than die a painful lingering death from a disease.

[bosslady]

shed a tear or three I did... I give him weeks, max a few months, you can see it in his eyes. I've seen that twice in the past 1.5 years. Sad.

[Paul in NZ]

I probably shouldn’t comment on this as I really don’t like Paul Holmes one little bit and never has since he cynically decided to crucify Dennis Conner to establish his own reputation. It just grated something deep in me and I despised him for it. I’m also always very very cautions when media creatures are awarded ‘honors’… So I can’t exactly comment on his end without some significant prejudices. But Mr Holmes couldn't resist commenting on his own situation so perhaps its OK if I do?

Balanced against my personal dislike – people I know and respect in the broadcasting industry have almost without fail described him as being very professional to deal with. In some cases – knowing the people making the comments - that counts for a lot. However its usually attached with the rider that he was a bit too keen on attracting personal wealth for some with a more public service background.

So like any of us – hes a mixed assortment of good and bad.

The irony of his current situation is that over the years he has met many many people in the last stage of their life and reported on it. Yet his observations have not provided him with an insight on dying well himself. Yes – he looks more than a bit scared and possibly slightly peeved to find that his pithy observations had not given him the actual character to act out his last scene. It’s a shame but more than that it’s a opportunity that Paul Holmes himself would have found irresistible had he been sitting outside and looking in on it. I think hes a bit annoyed about that he has found he can’t actually control or manage this situation into some cute sound bites. If not exactly that – then you get the feeling the whole thing isn’t going as well as he would have liked and for once there's not a damn thing he can do about it.

However – as motorcyclist there is a warning here for us as well. We all know the risk we take when we ride and that the more aggressively we ride the more aggressive the odds become. There is often this heroic 'blaze of glory' death image associated with this bravado but the reality is that its not usually like that. There is generally a lot more blood, screaming, humiliation and crying for your mother than people realize. Motorcycle deaths are not dignified ones and we should all guard against self agrandisation..

Still – pettiness from folks like me won’t matter in the end. Paul Holmes changed broadcasting in NZ and made a fortune doing it. Its more of a legacy than most people achieve.

[bosslady]

I thought his comment(s) about God were interesting. It reminded me about my Grandad. He wasn't a believer, in God, or religious at all, quite the opposite (but always respectful of other peoples beliefs). But I remember him saying to me in the hospital, riddled with cancer, knowing he only had a couple of weeks to live, that if it turned out that there was a God, that he thought he'd done right by everyone, he'd lived a good life and had basically been the best person that he could be. I'm not a believer either but maybe when I'm near my death bed I'll start to wonder more too.

[jellywrestler]

I'm not a believer either but maybe when I'm near my death bed I'll start to wonder more too.

if you don't beleive in God then who do call out to when you're having an orgasm?

[bosslady]

if you don't beleive in God then who do call out to when you're having an orgasm?

Huh? What's THAT? :laugh::banana::lol::spanking:















p.s. please, no offers to show me, thanks haha

[Paul in NZ]

if you don't beleive in God then who do call out to when you're having an orgasm?

I'm not sure God is responsible for orgasms. I think its the work of the other bloke and all the Priests I've met are very keen on you not having many of them and always get into trouble for having them themselves.

But yes - faced with the end we all seem to ask if that is all there is to it? The answer being 'pretty much'...

[Banditbandit]

Huh? What's THAT? :laugh::banana::lol::spanking:






p.s. please, no offers to show me, thanks haha




:rofl: No wonder you got a motorbike ...

[Zedder]

I probably shouldn’t comment on this as I really don’t like Paul Holmes one little bit and never has since he cynically decided to crucify Dennis Conner to establish his own reputation. It just grated something deep in me and I despised him for it. I’m also always very very cautions when media creatures are awarded ‘honors’… So I can’t exactly comment on his end without some significant prejudices. But Mr Holmes couldn't resist commenting on his own situation so perhaps its OK if I do?

Balanced against my personal dislike – people I know and respect in the broadcasting industry have almost without fail described him as being very professional to deal with. In some cases – knowing the people making the comments - that counts for a lot. However its usually attached with the rider that he was a bit too keen on attracting personal wealth for some with a more public service background.

So like any of us – hes a mixed assortment of good and bad.

The irony of his current situation is that over the years he has met many many people in the last stage of their life and reported on it. Yet his observations have not provided him with an insight on dying well himself. Yes – he looks more than a bit scared and possibly slightly peeved to find that his pithy observations had not given him the actual character to act out his last scene. It’s a shame but more than that it’s a opportunity that Paul Holmes himself would have found irresistible had he been sitting outside and looking in on it. I think hes a bit annoyed about that he has found he can’t actually control or manage this situation into some cute sound bites. If not exactly that – then you get the feeling the whole thing isn’t going as well as he would have liked and for once there's not a damn thing he can do about it.

However – as motorcyclist there is a warning here for us as well. We all know the risk we take when we ride and that the more aggressively we ride the more aggressive the odds become. There is often this heroic 'blaze of glory' death image associated with this bravado but the reality is that its not usually like that. There is generally a lot more blood, screaming, humiliation and crying for your mother than people realize. Motorcycle deaths are not dignified ones and we should all guard against self agrandisation..

Still – pettiness from folks like me won’t matter in the end. Paul Holmes changed broadcasting in NZ and made a fortune doing it. Its more of a legacy than most people achieve.

Well written post although I'm quite happy with the Connor incident, the guy was in dire need of a taking down.

Holmes may have changed broadcasting and good on him, but personally, his particular style irritated the hell out of me.

[bosslady]

:rofl: No wonder you got a motorbike ...

Hahhaa, very good!

[swtfa]

My heart goes out to him, I did shed a tear or two :(

AND


if you don't beleive in God then who do call out to when you're having an orgasm?

I'm a believer!!

[unstuck]

I am an athiest when it comes to the big O.
More of a , oh fuck oh fuck ohhh fuuck, kinda guy myself. Not a god in sight.:Punk::Punk:

[Paul in NZ]

I am an athiest when it comes to the big O.
More of a , oh fuck oh fuck ohhh fuuck, kinda guy myself. Not a god in sight.:Punk::Punk:

Not even a love god?

[unstuck]

Not even a love god?

Not even a love god.:no: More like a love monster.:eek::Punk:

[bosslady]

Good Lord...

[PrincessBandit]

...... I remember him saying to me in the hospital, riddled with cancer, knowing he only had a couple of weeks to live, that if it turned out that there was a God, that he thought he'd done right by everyone, he'd lived a good life and had basically been the best person that he could be. I'm not a believer either but maybe when I'm near my death bed I'll start to wonder more too.

At the risk of getting this thread biffed into RR, it's not actually about being the best kind of person you can be and "doing right by everyone". However I'll refrain from further comment on this line...


if you don't beleive in God then who do call out to when you're having an orgasm?

You've watched too many pornos :shutup:


Not even a love god.:no: More like a love monster.:eek::Punk:

Love Guru???

[unstuck]

Love Guru???

I like the sound of that.:2thumbsup