2010 to 2013 GSX-R600 vs CBR600RR vs R6 vs ZX6R

[Merlin.pgd]

Now, comparing the GSX-R600 vs CBR600RR vs R6 vs ZX6R, which of is a better bike? I've heard the gsxr's are more popular, but I want to here from someone who owns or have ridden at least one of these bikes in real life and not comparing them in racetracks. :scooter:

[Gremlin]

Now, comparing the GSX-R600 vs CBR600RR vs R6 vs ZX6R, which of is a better bike? I've heard the gsxr's are more popular, but I want to here from someone who owns or have ridden at least one of these bikes in real life and not comparing them in racetracks. :scooter:
As has been said before, the differences between them in performance are so small as to not be identifiable by a regular motorcyclist.

Buy the one that you feel best on (the ergonomics will vary) and you like the best.

[Merlin.pgd]

As has been said before, the differences between them in performance are so small as to not be identifiable by a regular motorcyclist.

Buy the one that you feel best on (the ergonomics will vary) and you like the best.

That is correct, but what i want to now is the upkeep costs, part prices, service costs, handling and popularity and not the typical performance list.

[carbonhed]

2013 675 ftw.

[aderino4]

Repeating the typical internet forum reply, "Go out there and test ride them"

I've owned 06 CBR600RR, 09 and 12 CBR600RR and ridden 848 enough to have an opinion.

The CBR is on the weaker side of power (R6, GSXR and 848 have much better drive out of corner) However, it's the easiest to ride.
The chasis is not as stiff and good to deal with slow speed corner.
Being a Honda; parts are generally bullet proof. Of the 3 that I owned I've only ever spent money on oil and tyres. Nothing ever got broken.
Fuel consumption is above 20km/ L when you ride it normally. Drops to about 6km/l on the track.
The latest generation (09-12 model) is a very light bike.
Would love to try the newest generation.


The 848 has much stiffer chasis, a bit harder to get used but feels much more stable on corners.
However it requires a suspension upgrade/ setup as soon as you get it.
Electrical is a crap. Expect to spend money on voltage regulator, fuse, wiring loom, etc etc
Clutch is heavy and the first gear is tall.
Very flickable, the brake is one of the best I've ever experienced and it's fast.
It's a very good looking bike that is reasonable enough to live day-to-day. Someone that I know very well use it to go to work every day rain or shine and ride it well in the weekend even took it for a day trip Auckland - New Plymouth - Auckland.

If I were to look for a new bike in the same class: MV F3 and 675 will be top of my list.

[ducatilover]

The Daytona 675 would be my pick, it's not on your list. Put it on there, it's a delicious motor, I want to have its babies.

[Gremlin]

That is correct, but what i want to now is the upkeep costs, part prices, service costs, handling and popularity and not the typical performance list.
I'd put your dealer choice above that. ie, if you have a favourite dealer who you trust, ride their brand first...

Dealer support (plus servicing) is very important to me.

[Merlin.pgd]

2013 675 ftw.

I really like that bike, but unfortunately I'm not able to ride it until I get the bloody full license. :facepalm:

[BigAl]

I really like that bike, but unfortunately I'm not able to ride it until I get the bloody full license.

Yet you can ride a gsxr/cbr/r6/zxr 600?:weird:

[Merlin.pgd]

Repeating the typical internet forum reply, "Go out there and test ride them"

I've owned 06 CBR600RR, 09 and 12 CBR600RR and ridden 848 enough to have an opinion.

The CBR is on the weaker side of power (R6, GSXR and 848 have much better drive out of corner) However, it's the easiest to ride.
The chasis is not as stiff and good to deal with slow speed corner.
Being a Honda; parts are generally bullet proof. Of the 3 that I owned I've only ever spent money on oil and tyres. Nothing ever got broken.
Fuel consumption is above 20km/ L when you ride it normally. Drops to about 6km/l on the track.
The latest generation (09-12 model) is a very light bike.
Would love to try the newest generation.


The 848 has much stiffer chasis, a bit harder to get used but feels much more stable on corners.
However it requires a suspension upgrade/ setup as soon as you get it.
Electrical is a crap. Expect to spend money on voltage regulator, fuse, wiring loom, etc etc
Clutch is heavy and the first gear is tall.
Very flickable, the brake is one of the best I've ever experienced and it's fast.
It's a very good looking bike that is reasonable enough to live day-to-day. Someone that I know very well use it to go to work every day rain or shine and ride it well in the weekend even took it for a day trip Auckland - New Plymouth - Auckland.

If I were to look for a new bike in the same class: MV F3 and 675 will be top of my list.

Thanks for your opinion, I personally like the MV F3, but I can't ride it with my current license unfortunately. :doh:

[Merlin.pgd]

Yet you can ride a gsxr/cbr/r6/zxr 600?:weird:

I think the GSXR600 is ok and Yamaha is released a new R6 in aussie that is fine with the new low and I'm hoping Honda and Kawasaki will do the same thing soon.

[Merlin.pgd]

I'd put your dealer choice above that. ie, if you have a favourite dealer who you trust, ride their brand first...

Dealer support (plus servicing) is very important to me.

That is a very valid opinion, thanks Gremlin

[onearmedbandit]

I think the GSXR600 is ok and Yamaha is released a new R6 in aussie that is fine with the new low and I'm hoping Honda and Kawasaki will do the same thing soon.

I don't think Suzuki are bringing the LAMs approved GSXR to NZ.

[Merlin.pgd]

I don't think Suzuki are bringing the LAMs approved GSXR to NZ.

Noooooooooo, man I have no good options than!

[Bassmatt]

Noooooooooo, man I have no good options than!

Option 5 : fuck the rules.

[onearmedbandit]

Option 5 : fuck the rules.

I took that option. No regrets.

[nodrog]

Noooooooooo, man I have no good options than!

if you are buying a lams sportsbike none of them are good options.

buy a hyosung aqulia or some shit, at least they look like they are supposed to go slow.

[Glowerss]

if you are buying a lams sportsbike none of them are good options.

buy a hyosung aqulia or some shit, at least they look like they are supposed to go slow.

+1 to lams sportsbikes being poo. What's the point of a 40bhp gsxr600? Might as well buy a minter CBR250 and learn to ride it properly, then buy a real 600.

Or just learn to ride your hyodung properly :laugh:

I'm stuck on my R for the next 13 months but to be honest with you, I don't see the rush to jump on a 600. Shit, I've been riding a year now and I can't use even 1/6th of what the Hornet can do.

Unless you've been riding awhile illegally or you're the next Stoner, there won't be much difference between the hyobag and a 600 (restricted or otherwise). Aside from your ability to potentially crash anyway :shutup:

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Wait till you get your full then get a GSXR750 or Daytona 675.

[aderino4]

lol, none of the bikes on the list will be in the LAMS list anytime soon.

Unless they go with the UK BHP rule in which case you can put restrictor on even your Hayabusa to make it learner legal.

[steve_t]

Wait till you get your full then get a GSXR750 or Daytona 675.

^ This seems to be a common recommendation. At least test ride them when you get your full

[McFatty1000]

Yeah, honestly, if you don't have your full, none of the legal sportsbikes will be any good compared to the ones you've listed.

But, you can still have tons of fun on a little cbr/zxr/fzr etc 250cc, and you'll learn heaps while doing it - I've still got about 12 months on my R left but with that, I'm very aware of just how much I need to learn before I go up to my future 600

[SNF]

Yeah, honestly, if you don't have your full, none of the legal sportsbikes will be any good compared to the ones you've listed.

But, you can still have tons of fun on a little cbr/zxr/fzr etc 250cc, and you'll learn heaps while doing it - I've still got about 12 months on my R left but with that, I'm very aware of just how much I need to learn before I go up to my future 600

Agreed. Be careful of the cheap ones, they can be a headache - trust me on this.

[imdying]

You could trying making friends with other learners. 250s like minimotos are best enjoyed in groups, and there's a whole heap of enjoyment to be had there :yes:

[jafar]

I really like that bike, but unfortunately I'm not able to ride it until I get the bloody full license. :facepalm:

Then wait until you get your full licence before you buy a race replica bike. The 600's are seriously fast & not intended for learner riders ! Look for something in the higher capacity that is on the LAMS list instead. Husky TE511,TE449. Kawa ER650, KLR 650. Or a motard style machine that fits you & modify it to suit.:innocent:

[slofox]

I chose the gixxer of those simply because it "fitted" me the best. When I test rode it, it was like clamping on a body suit. The search ended at that moment.

[McFatty1000]

Agreed. Be careful of the cheap ones, they can be a headache - trust me on this.

Yeah, this is true - I still feel sorry for you about your one aye :no:

[SMOKEU]

I'd go for the CBR600RR or R6. I wouldn't trust the build quality of the Suzuki (speaking from experience). The ZX6R should be a nice bike too.

[Road kill]

One of my Nephews has an R6.

I've ridden it once for about an hour on Highway 16 ,,,,took me another hour to talk properly again.:crazy:

I really liked that bike.:woohoo:

[ducatilover]

If you want a proper sport bike on your learners, buy an RVF400R :yes:

[Merlin.pgd]

If you want a proper sport bike on your learners, buy an RVF400R :yes:

Thank you ducatilover, maybe I should have asked what is the proper sport bike that you can get on learners.

Yes I have had my learners for over two years and I have been riding for many years before that, so the 250cc is not doing it for me.

Thanks for the comments guys!

[ducatilover]

Upgrade your licence mate :yes:

[CHOPPA]

Whats the story with Rs250s these days? Not on the LAMS list, but surely if you have been riding one on your learners and you own one you could keep riding it?

[Glowerss]

Whats the story with Rs250s these days? Not on the LAMS list, but surely if you have been riding one on your learners and you own one you could keep riding it?

If you can prove you had it before October 1st, you can apply for an exemption to ride it. But the exemption only lasts as long as your license period would (so between 18 and 24 months). No sitting on your L for 2 years :laugh:

[Merlin.pgd]

No sitting on your L for 2 years :laugh:

You need time for that mate, can't find that sort of time when you work 7 days. Man I shouldn't have sold my gt250r than! :facepalm:

[Merlin.pgd]

You need time for that mate, can't find that sort of time when you work 7 days. Man I shouldn't have sold my gt250r than! :facepalm:

Now that I've sold my "sport bike" and have been riding sports only after many year can i move on to cruiser? or don't even think about it. :mellow:

e.g. Yamaha xvs650 or Hyosung gv650 at least they have more power than the 250 i had and they are lams. <_< :no:

[McFatty1000]

Now that I've sold my "sport bike" and have been riding sports only after many year can i move on to cruiser? or don't even think about it. :mellow:

e.g. Yamaha xvs650 or Hyosung gv650 at least they have more power than the 250 i had and they are lams. <_< :no:

You can only go out and try them, really comes down to what you are using the bike for as well?

[SVboy]

I'd go for the CBR600RR or R6. I wouldn't trust the build quality of the Suzuki (speaking from experience). The ZX6R should be a nice bike too.

Tarring all suzukis based on your personal experience with one old SRAD might be slightly mis-informative!

[ducatilover]

Tarring all suzukis based on your personal experience with one old SRAD might be slightly mis-informative!

All Kawasakis are crap, because I've had three shit ones. But, Hondas rule, I've had three good ones

[Glowerss]

All Kawasakis are crap, because I've had three shit ones. But, Hondas rule, I've had three good ones

Yeah, but to be fair, didn't you do that your kawasakis? :D I mean your poor ZZR's have had a hard life!

[ducatilover]

Yeah, but to be fair, didn't you do that your kawasakis? :D I mean your poor ZZR's have had a hard life!

:shifty: errrr perhaps
One of my Hondas broke, after hitting a fence at very high speed, so they're actually shit too.

[boman]

2013 675 ftw.

Any 675 FTW. Better than an IL4 anyday....

[SMOKEU]

Tarring all suzukis based on your personal experience with one old SRAD might be slightly mis-informative!

I own 2 bikes and both are Suzukis. I'm not completely biased, just speaking from personal experience.

[onearmedbandit]

I own 2 bikes and both are Suzukis. I'm not completely biased, just speaking from personal experience.

Whereas the Suzuki's I've owned, from RM's, GS's, GSX's and GSXR's have always served me well. I left the RGV out on purpose.

[SMOKEU]

Whereas the Suzuki's I've owned, from RM's, GS's, GSX's and GSXR's have always served me well. I left the RGV out on purpose.

I've got nothing against the mechanical parts of the Suzuki, in fact, they're great. The engine is very smooth, the gearbox is slick, the brakes, suspension, everything that affects the way the bike rides is very good.

However, comparing the little bits and pieces to the old CBR250 I had, there is no comparison. Just about every single nut and bolt on the Suzuki is utter crap. The metal is so soft it rounds off very easily, even with the right sized socket. The paint on the fuel tank is very thin and looks shit, whereas the Honda fuel tank paint was swimming pool deep and had a nice, thick look to it.
The switches on the Suzuki look like they belong on a Hyosung, and they don't have that oily precision of the Honda. The general fittings and fixtures are something I'm really not impressed with. The nuts and bolts are something that are easily and cheaply replaced, so it's not a big deal in the end.

Suzuki can build a bike that is a weapon on a race track, but then why let it down with this sort of cost cutting?

[ducatilover]

I've found some Suzukis do not have a tasty Honda touches (sounds a bit gay?) and aren't so well thought through.
They can make a hell of a bike though (K5 1000...) and they offer the best range of cheaptastic stuff (well, they did once upon a time)
I'd rather one than my Kawasaki in many ways, it has a beaut engine. That's it. Torquiest 600 I've ridden and not a very big top end sacrifice either (which I never use, coz that's illegal) it's an over engineered while being on too much caffeine bike, lots of useless shit everywhere and it breaks lots

Wana swap?

[McFatty1000]

I've found some Suzukis do not have a tasty Honda touches (sounds a bit gay?) and aren't so well thought through.
They can make a hell of a bike though (K5 1000...) and they offer the best range of cheaptastic stuff (well, they did once upon a time)
I'd rather one than my Kawasaki in many ways, it has a beaut engine. That's it. Torquiest 600 I've ridden and not a very big top end sacrifice either (which I never use, coz that's illegal) it's an over engineered while being on too much caffeine bike, lots of useless shit everywhere and it breaks lots

Wana swap?

Yes. Take a little fizzer? May or may not break down a lot too....

[ducatilover]

Yes. Take a little fizzer? May or may not break down a lot too....

<_<:shifty: I'll try let you down lightly. No!

:drinkup: