Compressors and nail guns?

[Akzle]

so... my nail gun is a cheap old piece of shit, and my compressor is an expensive old piece of shit, single cyl, direct drive, 2pony, 50lt receiver.

doing my deck, got a half dozen boards nailed down before she wasn't hammering all the way, and the motor had to fill up again.
(first dozen nails were driven well under, at 110psi >< )
should i get a better more air-friendly nail gun?
should i get a multi cylinder compressor? (uncle has a fucken neat 3 cyl, but it's FAD is same as mine at 8-12, can't remember)
is there any advantage to a belt drive jobby... supercheap have them excruciatingly cheap...

-or- if there's any professionals who could convince me to buy a paslode impulse gun.

-or- if they still have/use the bolt drivers that run on .22 blanks (and where can i get one?)

[SMOKEU]

paslode impulse gun.



I used to use one at one of my previous jobs and it was great. I never had any problems with it and it had a decent amount of power.

[p.dath]

Decking timber? Drill then nail. Better yet, use screws. Wish I had done that last time.

[unstuck]

Get the hammer out you lazy fuck.:Punk:

[Madness]

Nailguns use fuck all air compared to other airtools & sprayguns. Go & see the guys at Whangarei Power Tool Centre (next to Bindons) and get yours serviced. That way you'll save heaps of money that could be better spent on contributing towards the Auckland to Wellsford expressway project.

[shafty]

You could always HIRE a Paslode.....

[mashman]

Get the hammer out you lazy fuck.:Punk:

bwaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaa... wot eee said.

[paturoa]

For a deck I'd always recommend hammer and pucker annular grove decking nails, especially with pine.

Nail guns will look good for 1 annual cycle and then either start to pull up or thru the decking.

The annular grove nails will not pull up in winter / rain as the wood swells, and with a hammer you wont bang them too far in so that the nails will "pull thru" as the wood swells.

A nail gun may save you a few hours labour up front, but on a deck it is asking for trouble.

[Laava]

For a deck I'd always recommend hammer and pucker annular grove decking nails, especially with pine.

Nail guns will look good for 1 annual cycle and then either start to pull up or thru the decking.

The annular grove nails will not pull up in winter / rain as the wood swells, and with a hammer you wont bang them too far in so that the nails will "pull thru" as the wood swells.

A nail gun may save you a few hours labour up front, but on a deck it is asking for trouble.

Plus one...

[pete376403]

-or- if they still have/use the bolt drivers that run on .22 blanks (and where can i get one?)

Ramset - yes they do still have these but afaik, you need to be a licenced operator to use them

[Nova.]

the gas powered nail guns are much better.

[SPman]

Paslode's are OK on pine - soft pine, but are useless on hard timber - for that you need an old Senco - weighs about 50kg but sure drives nails in.
Decking - what the men said - annular nails and a hammer, or decking screws do a neater and more secure job.

[FJRider]

so... my nail gun is a cheap old piece of shit, and my compressor is an expensive old piece of shit, single cyl, direct drive, 2pony, 50lt receiver.



Do the rings on the cylinder ... and drain the water out of the tank.

[Akzle]

just aswel i got shitty with it and did the other half by hand then, we'll see how it lasts.

it's pine, 20x90 deck tread shit. it's already wet, so if anything it's going to be shrinking.

i'm not in the market for a screwgun. (although they look f*ing snazzy, and if anyone's giving one away...)

licensed operator bahahahahahah. right.

and i don't f*cking want to make it easier for aucklanders to get here.


thanks buildy-folk.

[FJRider]

i'm not in the market for a screwgun. (although they look f*ing snazzy, and if anyone's giving one away...)



An ordinary drill (Battery or electric) with a square drive bit. Square drive head screws ...

[paturoa]

just aswel i got shitty with it and did the other half by hand then, we'll see how it lasts.

it's pine, 20x90 deck tread shit. it's already wet, so if anything it's going to be shrinking.

and i don't f*cking want to make it easier for aucklanders to get here.

And reading a bunch of your other posts / threads, I rekon you're an honorary dorklander yourself. You welcome.

[hayd3n]

could always get another compressed air tank to fill , my m8 converted a old lpg one to fil with air

[NighthawkNZ]

Nail guns use bugger all air... some you can set others are set via the presure you set on the compressor...

I would check your cyclinder and drain it... most common thing people forget to do...

Depending on the gun may need a bit of oil... exaple most brad guns a couple of drops in the air hose connector before you use it for the day... some guns have an oiler nipple or something...

[Road kill]

Choice love nail guns.

Nailed myself to a frame with one once.

Coming down cause it was raining,had gun in one hand an lowering myself with the other when I slipped an bumped the gun into the frame at the same time as I squeezed the trigger.

Through the corner of the frame an pinned me to a nog by my index finger.

Good thing I had my side cutters in my belt because my mates weren't being very helpfull,,,,,funny pricks aye.

Learn't a couple of things about site safety that day:laugh:

[1billyboy]

I like my Paslode guns got 2 of them. 1 for nails and 1 for brads.:woohoo:
On decks I use Paslode Deckfast nails that have groves and a round head. On the gun I use the No-Mar tip that has a rubber block on the end that leave no mark on the decking.

[pete376403]

licensed operator bahahahahahah. right.

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Yeah ok but i don't think you can buy or rent Ramset type equipment without the ticket.

[Akzle]

And reading a bunch of your other posts / threads, I rekon you're an honorary dorklander yourself. You welcome.
words hurt, you know :crybaby:
i'm going to go and cut my wrists.

... i don't know who that's more offensive to, either.

could always get another compressed air tank to fill , my m8 converted a old lpg one to fil with air
yeah i have an old 20 or 30lt off an el-cheapo buninngs which the last guy fucked (10lt of water and he was wondering why it wasn't painting so good :facepalm:) so i took the motor off for a grinder and was going to use for a sandblaster, but haven't, so it might get tacked on...

Nail guns use bugger all air... some you can set others are set via the presure you set on the compressor...

I would check your cyclinder and drain it... most common thing people forget to do...

Depending on the gun may need a bit of oil... exaple most brad guns a couple of drops in the air hose connector before you use it for the day... some guns have an oiler nipple or something...
i'm not a complete dick, despite the prevailing dispersions around here. i've got a regulator on the tank, nail gun reckons it will run from 70-90 IIRC, there is no water in my receiver, nor in the cylinder (it wouldn't stay there long eh, unless it hydraulicly locked up...) and i do use tooling oil, for all my tools.


I like my Paslode guns got 2 of them. 1 for nails and 1 for brads.:woohoo:
On decks I use Paslode Deckfast nails that have groves and a round head. On the gun I use the No-Mar tip that has a rubber block on the end that leave no mark on the decking.
giz a go on your missus...

Yeah ok but i don't think you can buy or rent Ramset type equipment without the ticket.
they say that about guns, cyanide and drugs, too...

[unstuck]

Got the hammer out yet you lazy fuck?:bash:

[Akzle]

Got the hammer out yet you lazy fuck?:bash:

done and dusted boi.
*mutter*shitty old galv nails*mutter*mutter*

...still don't have a new compressor though. and as a matter of interest it was 60 nails that went in before the compressor ticked over...

[unstuck]

Get a couple of old lawnmower motors and make your own compressor.:Punk:

[unstuck]

Or one like this for the back of ya tractor.:yes:http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTVyeU9Ks3GYJIGCtPVF7lK3HM_CEvl0 vZyHR3StYyjGFlQPHI3

[Akzle]

Or one like this for the back of ya tractor.:yes:

i [I]have been contemplating a PTO one for the ute...five speed :D

[unstuck]

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