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Monkfish
5th February 2013, 09:52
Hey KB how would you rate the Importance of proper Riding Boots?

ATM i am just wearing my old steel cap work boots, (as a friend said that was all he used to wear). but after reading some of the other threads on KB peoplae are saying that wearing street shoes or other footwear actually hindered the learning process? (gear changing etc.)

I do plan to get riding boots once funding allows but I might have to re-prioritize.:confused:

Dragon
5th February 2013, 09:58
Hey KB how would you rate the Importance of proper Riding Boots?

ATM i am just wearing my old steel cap work boots, (as a friend said that was all he used to wear). but after reading some of the other threads on KB peoplae are saying that wearing street shoes or other footwear actually hindered the learning process? (gear changing etc.)

I do plan to get riding boots once funding allows but I might have to re-prioritize.:confused:

My uncle is a paramedic

Have heard a few stories of bikers coming off in steel caps and losing their toes

Not to mention they are farking heavy to ride with, I wouldn't wear steel caps at all :s

Atm im wearing a set of combat boots (need to get some bike boots soon) they're pretty sturdy have ankle support etc

Banditbandit
5th February 2013, 10:00
Way back in the early 1970s I only ever wore steelcap boots ...

Now I have proper riding boots and would never wear anything else ... the position of my feet on the pegs is completely different to the BSAs and Meridan Triumphs I rode back then .. steelcaps would be very uncomfortable and hard to change gear in on the modern bikes I have ...

I've also dropped the bike in my modern boots with exoskeletons and have walked away (well, limped a few paces) ... in steelcaps I would have broken my ankle ..

Get some decent riding boots as soon as you can afford them

Monkfish
5th February 2013, 10:02
My uncle is a paramedic

Have heard a few stories of bikers coming off in steel caps and losing their toes

Not to mention they are farking heavy to ride with, I wouldn't wear steel caps at all :s

Atm im wearing a set of combat boots (need to get some bike boots soon) they're pretty sturdy have ankle support etc

Shite :blink: Im quite fond of those little buggers on the end of my foot.

Is the ankle support the most important aspect of riding footwear?

Gremlin
5th February 2013, 10:02
Ankle support is probably the biggest factor. Normal shoes are probably "easier" to learn in, as they aren't stiff like boots.

However, without the support of the boot, your ankle has a high chance of breaking in any off where it comes under pressure, doesn't have to be high speed. You'll need to learn shifting with the boots anyway, at some point, so may as well start.

Banditbandit
5th February 2013, 10:04
Is the ankle support the most important aspect of riding footwear?

Maybe if you fall off it is ... for normal riding - comfort and ability to use your feet quickly - on the brake/gears ... Dry helps - but I seriously doubt any boot is completely waterproof.

FJRider
5th February 2013, 10:13
Steel toe-caps can freeze your toes off. If the steep cap is on the outside of the leather ... it can catch the gear change lever.

Ex Army lace-up combat boots do work well. Just a bugger to get on and off.

Warm/dry hands AND feet make for a great and SAFE ride. Either ... cold and/or wet ... are never fun.

So I put the importance of gloves in the same bracket as boots.

FJRider
5th February 2013, 10:24
Now I have proper riding boots and would never wear anything else ... the position of my feet on the pegs is completely different to the BSAs and Meridan Triumphs I rode back then .. steelcaps would be very uncomfortable and hard to change gear in on the modern bikes I have ...

I've also dropped the bike in my modern boots with exoskeletons and have walked away (well, limped a few paces) ... in steelcaps I would have broken my ankle ..

Get some decent riding boots as soon as you can afford them

Depending on how(if) the brake and gear levers were set up for you ... would matter what you wore on your feet. And on how comfortable your footwear was to wear/use as you ride.

One of the bigger gains in comfort (and bike control) a learner rider (or ANY rider) can get ... is setting up the controls (for hands AND feet) when they take possession of their bike.

Monkfish
5th February 2013, 10:26
Depending on how(if) the brake and gear levers were set up for you ... would matter what you wore on your feet. And on how comfortable your footwear was to wear/use as you ride.

One of the bigger gains in comfort (and bike control) a learner rider (or ANY rider) can get ... is setting up the controls (for hands AND feet) when they take possession of their bike.

How would one go about this insanley difficult and mind boggeling transformation?
Jokes i didnt realise it was an easy job to modify gear leaver/brake positioning.:pinch:

FJRider
5th February 2013, 10:31
Ankle support is probably the biggest factor. Normal shoes are probably "easier" to learn in, as they aren't stiff like boots.

However, without the support of the boot, your ankle has a high chance of breaking in any off where it comes under pressure, doesn't have to be high speed. You'll need to learn shifting with the boots anyway, at some point, so may as well start.

The different styles of boots available vary considerably ... race and touring boots are very different in construction. Thus end result of your ankle would also differ in an off.

Looks/comfort/availability are the usual reasons for boot consideration. Followed by cost. (usually in THAT order :lol:)

FJRider
5th February 2013, 10:38
How would one go about this insanley difficult and mind boggeling transformation?
Jokes i didnt realise it was an easy job to modify gear leaver/brake positioning.:pinch:

It IS easy. For most it is just the case of loosening/removing the locking nut. Pulling the lever off the spline. Rotating the lever a few splines up or down to suit. Replacing the locking nut.

Careful study of gear/brake levers will make adjustment easy to understand how to do it ...

Gremlin
5th February 2013, 12:16
The different styles of boots available vary considerably ... race and touring boots are very different in construction. Thus end result of your ankle would also differ in an off.
Any style of motorcycle boot (normal length, not those short motorcycle boot/shoes) is going to protect the ankle and foot more than a pair of sneakers etc.

All boots start stiff, until you wear them in, but allowable flex will vary with style. Sport boots are pre curved to riding position, so don't try walking all day in them. MX boots are very tall and stiff, again, don't try walking all day in them.

Oh, and my Forma Adventure boots are waterproof, up to the waterproof flap of course. How long that will last, who knows, but I've tested when the bike didn't want to stay upright in the odd stream. :laugh:

Maha
5th February 2013, 12:29
You know you've had a good days riding when.....

PS:....This is not my boot, the carpet however..........is.

Monkfish
5th February 2013, 12:32
You know you've had a good days riding when.....

Wholy Shite!

Im not quite up to those speeds yet. :shit:

Maha
5th February 2013, 12:34
Wholy Shite!

Im not quite up to those speeds yet. :shit:

Me either, not my boot :confused:

HenryDorsetCase
5th February 2013, 12:39
There is no shame in buying second hand. I once slid down a road with my foot under the bike after I hit some diesel on a roundabout. Wore the leather thru over my little sticky outy ankle bone. But no damage. If I had been wearing shoes it would have ground that motherfucker down flat. Doesnt bear thinking about. A couple of hundy on some boots is money well spent.

James Deuce
5th February 2013, 12:47
A steel shank through the sole is another feature to look for as well as any device designed to prevent over-extension of the ankle joint in any direction, be it external or internal. There are also many "boot within a boot" designs out there which are pricey but legend holds provide the best protection. The most vulnerable part of the ankle is the malleolus and it is important when trying on boots to make sure that malleolar protection lines up over the bumps on the inside and outside of your ankle, for protection of course, but primarily comfort, because if it doesn't line up it will chafe and annoy and a small irritation can become a major distraction.

I have no cartilage in my right ankle. I don't know if my boot saved my ankle or amplified the damage, certainly the orthopedic surgeon who reviewed it (who told me, "don't come crying to me, it's fucked and there's nothing anyone can do about it) has suggested that the joint compression from talus to tibia and fibia was caused by a tri-directional crush injury which may have been magnified by the boot exo-skeleton because it deformed and then held the deformed shape. I haven't been able to wear full-length boots since the last fuck up, so I look for waterproof boots with some ankle protection and a supportive but flexible sole. I have some nice Diadora's that do those jobs.

FJRider
5th February 2013, 12:49
You know you've had a good days riding when.....

Try keeping your feet square on the footrests ... keep your knees together just as your mother told you. Your feet shouldn't touch the ground unless you step off.

That's not about a good days riding. But left hand corners do seem to be your favourite.

Don't be so keen to get a knee down and spend more attention and thinking ... what your feet are doing. Aim a video on them if necessary.

I have actually SEEN people fall off on a corner because they stuck their foot out from the end of the foot rest and it touched ground and dragged their ankle off. (followed closely by the rest of the leg. The resulting imbalance caused him a highside (on the wrong side of the road) trying to correct it.

Maha
5th February 2013, 12:58
Try keeping your feet square on the footrests ... keep your knees together just as your mother told you. Your feet shouldn't touch the ground unless you step off.

That's not about a good days riding. But left hand corners do seem to be your favourite.

Don't be so keen to get a knee down and spend more attention and thinking ... what your feet are doing. Aim a video on them if necessary.

I have actually SEEN people fall off on a corner because they stuck their foot out from the end of the foot rest and it touched ground and dragged their ankle off. (followed closely by the rest of the leg. The resulting imbalance caused him a highside (on the wrong side of the road) trying to correct it.

I shall add the words ''not my boot'' to the post.

Blackbird
5th February 2013, 13:00
Ankle protection is really important as others have said but so is protection of the shin and calf. About 4 years ago, I dropped my Blackbird when my foot slipped on gravel. I had some shorty riding boots on and the crash mushroom on the fairing landed on my inner calf as it fell over. I bled internally and couldn't ride for 2 months. If I'd been wearing the longer Alpinestars which I now own, the only damage would have been to my ego :facepalm:


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Rhys
5th February 2013, 13:26
Ankle protection is really important as others have said but so is protection of the shin and calf. About 4 years ago, I dropped my Blackbird when my foot slipped on gravel. I had some shorty riding boots on and the crash mushroom on the fairing landed on my inner calf as it fell over. I bled internally and couldn't ride for 2 months. If I'd been wearing the longer Alpinestars which I now own, the only damage would have been to my ego :facepalm:

That looks impressive!

bosslady
5th February 2013, 13:45
Just my opinion. I would never imagine wearing my steel cap boots/shoes, nor my combat style style leather boots all of which aren't cheap shoes and not because these shoes are heavy (they're not, they're actually quite light). Why? like others said - ankle support, and that's the biggest reason why. When I rolled my ankle quite badly about a month ago (am still having problems with it) whilst it was painful to squeeze my boots on they supported said ankle really well since they're quite rigid, I could hardly move that ankle inside the boot - my boots are almost like moon boots in that respect but do the job I need them to do. I have Alpinestars MX5 boots, you don't need some that expensive though. Honestly, just do it, well worth it. I've never binned my bike as such, just fell off it while stationery and dropped my bike on me - no problem hurting myself though.

f2dz
5th February 2013, 13:45
Hey KB how would you rate the Importance of proper Riding Boots

Pretty high. I've ridden once or twice without proper boots on and it just feels a bit naked down there without proper ankle protection, as others have already said. Riding boots aren't too much more expensive than regular shoes anyway, so long as you don't usually purchase yours from No.1.

Blackbird
5th February 2013, 13:54
That looks impressive!

Dropped it near Matamata, rode home to Coromandel and it only got really sore right near home. Horrified to see the damage when I peeled my leathers off. The only good thing to happen next day was an attractive technician at Thames hospital covering me with gel from ankle to groin and performing an ultrasound to make sure I hadn't got any blood clots :innocent:.

FJRider
5th February 2013, 14:08
I shall add the words ''not my boot'' to the post.

Not long ago a Dunedin rider posted a vid of a "not dangerous" cornering where he scared an oncoming motorist. On the posted vid it was noticed a wiggle mid corner where he stated it was "just his boot touching ground" and not dangerous. :scratch:

An issue needing sorted by some motorcyclists ... and by no means (in my opinion) an indication of "clever/fast/good" riding practice ...

Monkfish
5th February 2013, 14:11
Some of the riding boots I have been looking at, like the johnny reb originals, look like normal workboots.
How are they different?

arcane12
5th February 2013, 14:11
Pretty high. I've ridden once or twice without proper boots on and it just feels a bit naked down there without proper ankle protection, as others have already said. Riding boots aren't too much more expensive than regular shoes anyway, so long as you don't usually purchase yours from No.1.

Same. I have ridden a few times without the boots (one of the first items I got, after a helmet and jacket) in 50km zones, and it feels a little strange. The boots make gear changes 'feel' a little different - less sensation, but it's good to know you have that level of cover.

And I have only scraped a toe once or twice on the Boulevard - lowish speed on a corner, and the peg once on a roundabout! I have changed my style a bit since, so I think it won't happen again...

FJRider
5th February 2013, 14:19
Regardless of how good your boots are (steel toe caps or not) ... never attempt to kick the head off any living thing that happens to meander onto the road. Serious toe damage will result. You may not even remain upright.

bluninja
5th February 2013, 14:23
I currently commute in sturdy workboots (with steel toecaps) and use short daytona boots that have been with me for the last 6 years the rest of the time. I have damaged the toe of previous left hand motorcycle boots due to going into corners fast and off throttle until I learned to take a better, controlled entry into corners (throttle opening).

I have had the calf, ankle, and toe slider on my race boots grinding on the track along with a knee slider, but that was only cos my rib was broken and I didn't hang off properly :shutup:

Some protection is better than no protection...shoes are better than jandals, boots are better than shoes, application specific motrocycle boots are best for motorbike riding.

bosslady
5th February 2013, 14:26
Some of the riding boots I have been looking at, like the johnny reb originals, look like normal workboots.
How are they different?

My suggestion, go into a motorcycle gear shop i.e. cycletreads or cyclespot honda (only mention those cause those are the only ones I've been to, lol) and have a LOOK at their boots. You don't need to buy, but try them on, feel them, you'll notice the difference between what you are using now and what they are. Good gear is worth every penny.

Glowerss
5th February 2013, 14:29
Ankle support is probably the biggest factor. Normal shoes are probably "easier" to learn in, as they aren't stiff like boots.

However, without the support of the boot, your ankle has a high chance of breaking in any off where it comes under pressure, doesn't have to be high speed. You'll need to learn shifting with the boots anyway, at some point, so may as well start.

+1 to learning to ride with the boots on.

I went about 6 or so months with no boots ( couldn't afford em) and rode everywhere in me gym shoes.

Now that I've got proper boots again, took me quite a few rides to get used to shifting with the damn things on again. Really shitty gear changes and whatnot. You'd do better to buy em sooner rather then later to avoid the pain of having to relearn that sort of thing.

Monkfish
5th February 2013, 14:31
My suggestion, go into a motorcycle gear shop i.e. cycletreads or cyclespot honda (only mention those cause those are the only ones I've been to, lol) and have a LOOK at their boots. You don't need to buy, but try them on, feel them, you'll notice the difference between what you are using now and what they are. Good gear is worth every penny.
Got my lid & gloves from cycletreads, might have to go back and do some browsing, for when funds are better.:yes:

Gremlin
5th February 2013, 14:37
... never attempt to kick the head off any living thing that happens to meander onto the road. Serious toe damage will result. You may not even remain upright.
Good point. Don't even let the critters mash themselves into your boot, especially when you're badly sunburnt.

God that hurt :shutup:

HenryDorsetCase
5th February 2013, 14:59
Some of the riding boots I have been looking at, like the johnny reb originals, look like normal workboots.
How are they different?

they are poser boots, not motorcycle boots.

FJRider
5th February 2013, 16:12
they are poser boots, not motorcycle boots.

With some ... same thing .... :shutup:

unstuck
6th February 2013, 07:04
Even If it is just a wee play around at the beach, good boots are a good idea. Last year I went for a wee pootle up the beach with a couple of young fellas, just wore my gumboots thinking it was a waste of time getting all my gear on for a wee pootle. Long story short, front brake lever ended up going through my gumboot, through my leg between the ankle and archilles and out the other side. :pinch: So get good boots and always wear them.:yes:

JimmyC
8th February 2013, 14:35
I took the 'Buy the best you can afford' mantra pretty seriously with my gear, and after trying on boots from A-Stars, Forma and Garneau, went with the Sidi Adventure Goretex boots. $699 in NZ or $365 landed from fc-moto.de. In the end they were cheaper than anything else I'd tried on here, more comfortable, and with arguably superior protection all round. Very pleased with that purchase.

Marmoot
8th February 2013, 17:26
Best boots for riding?

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Hey, you asked....

frogfeaturesFZR
9th February 2013, 11:06
Hey, you asked....

Me too, love my Sidi's