Sonny vs Botha

[Nova.]

predictions??

I hope oh so much that Sonny bill gets dropped on his ass!

but he won't of course, because all his fights have been set up to make him look good... :facepalm:

[unstuck]

Give me a felony fight any day.:yes:

[george formby]

predictions??

I hope oh so much that Sonny bill gets dropped on his ass!

but he won't of course, because all his fights have been set up to make him look good... :facepalm:

That's the worry. In a fair fight I would put my money on Botha, he's just a tad younger than me so not far off his pension but has fought for a living his whole life. Kick boxing & cage fighting too. A genuine hard case who can take as much of a beating as he can give. Sonny Bill has to stay in the ring long enough to get him tired & go for points without being sledge hammered. But.... he got a pretty face so..... $$$

We shall see, a fights a fight.

[Hitcher]

In true Don King fashion, this "fight" will be rigged. Sky TV and Khoda Nasser will have it mapped out to the second. There's little "marketing" value in Mr Botha flattening SBW in round 1, so that's unlikely to happen. SBW can't box. Botha in his prime was a "contender" and a game one at that but still couldn't beat a real heavyweight boxer. He's getting a bit long in the tooth but should still have more than enough to deal to Sonny Bill.

[unstuck]

$$$

We shall see, a fights a fight.

More boxing matches fixed than soccer or cricket.:yes:

[wysper]

I would imagine this is already decided.

I can't see SBW or his management taking this fight unless they were pretty certain of the win.

[Maha]

Wendy Botha?...she'll kick his arse...:corn:

[unstuck]

Wendy Botha?...she'll kick his arse...:corn:

She is rather a spitfire isnt she.:Punk:

[Mo NZ]

I was riding my DR today. I was thinking on watching the SBW boxing tonight. When I looked I saw “ price on purchase” What Bullshit. You should know the price before you buy. Just wondering if anybody else has bought the privilege and how much??. I can only assume they bought the rights to broadcast for X amount, then they want to know how many people buy it, then put the profit margin on and divide it by the buyers and PRESTO here’s your price. That’s just wrong.

BTW SBW CANT BOX FOR SHIT AND PUNCHES LIKE A GIRL.

Anybody bought it and how much did they want??

[98tls]

Am guessing its the same as every other fight ie $40,a mates purchased it and invited us round but watching SB fights about as exciting as a wet flannel so cant be bothered.If i thought they would line him up with someone that could actually give him a hiding then yep:niceone:i would pay to watch that.

[Mo NZ]

Yup. A large can of whip arse should be opened and delivered. Sure he has some skills and is a great athlete Bla Bla . But he cant box for shit.

[98tls]

Yup. A large can of whip arse should be opened and delivered. Sure he has some skills and is a great athlete Bla Bla . But he cant box for shit.

Best bit so far was when that last guy he fought gave him a smack in the mouth pre fight,:woohoo:best of all it was free to air.:laugh:

[Road kill]

Williams is improving all the time,,his first fight was a joke,,,the last one not so much.

But my money is still on Botha,,,he has the skills for Williams any day and he's the real deal Tough as they come.

Hope to see SBW blood,,,lots of blood.

A broken nose too much to ask for ? :laugh:

[Mo NZ]

He isnt saying much this time. If I was him I would be worried. Once that bell goes I think he is going to be hit so hard :shit: he wont know whre he is.

[unstuck]

Your a bloodthirsty pack of bastards.:love::love::Punk::Punk:

[george formby]

Sheesh, SBW has power & talent but has shown no ability as a "fighter", I mean that single minded murderous instinct. Unless he is absolutely ruthless, or dumb, financially, he must crave that toe to toe, mano a' mano time which is why he is in the ring anyway. You never really know yourself until you get hurt & really have to fight. Money or Mano?

SBW is entertaining, under achieving but he has the goods. I want to see him have a war. He needs a bit of rage in his punch.

Regardless of the hype he has excelled at nothing.

Mr Botha has no fear of the ring, I bet he eats his steaks horns off & arse wiped.

[98tls]

SBW is entertaining, under achieving but he has the goods.

Cant see it myself George,to much pretty boy not enough mongrel for my money.His reaction after getting a smack in the mouth in front of the media pre fight last time out (or was the time before that) was almost :laugh:able,sure he went on to win the fight but so could have anyones grandmother.Guys on this thread are talking up the guy fighting him so almost tempted to book it and watch,hope to be proved wrong but watching him getting a beating would be right up there with watching him dish one out.:laugh:

[oldrider]

OK everybody wants SBW to actually fight somebody worthwhile ... well now he is going to and the critics are still mouthing off negatively against him!

I for one admire him for taking this fight and actually believe he will redeem himself by defeating Botha!

I am only backing youth against age here and expect SBW to get one hell of a work-over from Botha and then recover and take the bout!

Should the outcome be the other way round at the end of the day, then SBW will have to make some real decisions about his boxing future!

There is nowhere to hide in that ring and SBW is the one taking all the risks here, Botha has nothing to lose whatever the outcome!

Good luck SBW and may the best man truly and clearly win. :yes:

[george formby]

Cant see it myself George,to much pretty boy not enough mongrel for my money.His reaction after getting a smack in the mouth in front of the media pre fight last time out (or was the time before that) was almost :laugh:able,sure he went on to win the fight but so could have anyones grandmother.Guys on this thread are talking up the guy fighting him so almost tempted to book it and watch,hope to be proved wrong but watching him getting a beating would be right up there with watching him dish one out.:laugh:

Exacary my point. I think he is dabbling but would love to see him get really pissed off & trade real punches. He has speed, power & co-ordination but has shown no "killer instinct".
I used to compete in Judo, up to national level. To become an international or an Olympian you had to have that finish, the absolute drive to win. Lots of people can get to that point but very few get past it, me included.


I don't care who wins. The buffalo deserves his purse, it's how he feeds his family. SBW is just putting himself in the spotlight for better or worse. The best we can hope for is a real fight.

[tri boy]

Close points decision to Botha.
SBW's fitness will see him to the end. MHO

[george formby]

Close points decision to Botha.
SBW's fitness will see him to the end. MHO

I think the fight is a formality but I would love to see the opposite. Against Botha, if Bill wins on points that will be slow viewing.

[Headbanger]

I'll be happy just to be entertained, well, I'm not going to bother watching it, so other people, people I don't know will or will not be entertained.

In which case I don't care really.

Its still not a real fight, Botha is past retirement, and SBW still hasn't had a real fight.

Match him up with someone his own age, weight, condition, and let ability and skill be the difference.








That said, Botha is going to crush him.

[awa355]

One of the problems with these rugby league 'show ponies' is that they believe all the hype that the media write about them. " Modern Gladiators" , real men etc.

I'd love to view a good even honest fight but doubt this will be one.

[MisterD]

He's getting a bit long in the tooth but should still have more than enough to deal to Sonny Bill.

KB's Colonel Bob Sheridan ^^

[HenryDorsetCase]

I watched some great boxing last night. Two young guys at my gym. Both round 60kg and a bit fiery. There were four of us watching. way better than this one will be.

Not sure i agree with the SBW punches like a girl comment. Anyone that big and fit will have some power

[HenryDorsetCase]

No love for Mundine here? :-)

[oldrider]

I'll be happy just to be entertained, well, I'm not going to bother watching it, so other people, people I don't know will or will not be entertained.

In which case I don't care really.

Its still not a real fight, Botha is past retirement, and SBW still hasn't had a real fight.

Match him up with someone his own age, weight, condition, and let ability and skill be the difference.

That said, Botha is going to crush him.

SBW was already a professional athlete when he decided to venture into boxing.

I think you will find that he was prevented from building an amateur foundation in the sport because of this.

He was then only able to find the odd mugs who had tried and failed in a professional career to fight him.

As he floundered around gaining experience it was inevitable that he looked like a fish out of water simply developing his skills to match his natural physical gifts.

The mugs available for him to fight eventually had to get more capable, sort of like a crossover point and SBW has reached that point.

SBW has gone into a dangerous place and has had to learn in the school of hard knocks where failure can have some serious consequences!

His critics (IMHO) underestimate him and would have more credibility if they themselves were prepared to face those same risks and speak from experience.

Personally, I find this to be a very interesting stage for them both of them and that makes it a worthwhile contest!

I await the outcome with intrest and favour youth over experience on this occasion so it might be a night of surprises, for everybody, especially the contestants.

[ducatilover]

All this hype over a pretty fella punching another fella, and possibly getting beaten down?
That's no fun. Martial arts any day thank you, art, not pummeling with fat lips.

[HenryDorsetCase]

All this hype over a pretty fella punching another fella, and possibly getting beaten down?
That's no fun. Martial arts any day thank you, art, not pummeling with fat lips.

Jap slapping? come on!

also you need to watch some actual boxing, I'd suggest. the thing about it is it looks easy. it is far from easy.

[unstuck]

We used to do boxing at the esplanade pub in devonport back in the 80,s, usually against the navy boys. Some of those fellas could of gone far if they had the passion.:yes:

[300weatherby]

Jap slapping? come on!

also you need to watch some actual boxing, I'd suggest. the thing about it is it looks easy. it is far from easy.

I am a "Jap slapper" from way back before modern "sport" versions ruined "martial arts"( god how I hate that term!), we would occasionaly cross train with some local amateur boxers, their rules, very hard work.

The ONLY boxing worth watching is amateur boxing at just above club level and at international tournaments ( Olympics, Commonwealth ect) where credibility is being built and the boxers have not yet been corrupted.

The SBW vs Both fight has already been scripted and will play out reasonably close to the requirements of the controling money interests, my opinion is that Botha will not be allowed to smash SBW to bits over a number of rounds, the "pretty boy leagie" has much better long term money spinning potential. SBW will be conservative and tag and run, Botha will swing vicious but miss a lot and get tired, as per his orders on the day.

What really pisses me off, is Botha is tough and experienced enough to take hits from SBW all night and just keep grinding him down with the low body shots untill late in the match he finally starts to bring SBW's hands down, then you will see SBW's true colours, when he finds himself outmatched, like all bullies, he will crumble and the referee will wind up stopping the fight, and there will be blood on the floor

I hope I am wrong, and this fight is not corrupted already.

[HenryDorsetCase]

We used to do boxing at the esplanade pub in devonport back in the 80,s, usually against the navy boys. Some of those fellas could of gone far if they had the passion.:yes:

did you ever get into a fight with my mate big Mike? (RIP)

[Monkfish]

MMA is where it's at...

Boxing + Ju jitsu + Wrestling + Kickboxing + Karate = Awesome.

[ducatilover]

Jap slapping? come on!

also you need to watch some actual boxing, I'd suggest. the thing about it is it looks easy. it is far from easy.

I do appreciate real boxing, but not this malarky. I just like it when we're allowed to use legs, because it's much cooler.

[oldrider]

I do appreciate real boxing, but not this malarky. I just like it when we're allowed to use legs, because it's much cooler.

To be able to kick effectively your body is back over the centre point of balance and that takes the power out of your punching, swings and roundabouts I guess!

[ducatilover]

To be able to kick effectively your body is back over the centre point of balance and that takes the power out of your punching, swings and roundabouts I guess!



Kicking is pretty, I like pretty things.
When I grow up, I'm going to be a Shaolin Monk

[HenryDorsetCase]

I am a "Jap slapper" from way back before modern "sport" versions ruined "martial arts"( god how I hate that term!), we would occasionaly cross train with some local amateur boxers, their rules, very hard work.

The ONLY boxing worth watching is amateur boxing at just above club level and at international tournaments ( Olympics, Commonwealth ect) where credibility is being built and the boxers have not yet been corrupted.

The SBW vs Both fight has already been scripted and will play out reasonably close to the requirements of the controling money interests, my opinion is that Botha will not be allowed to smash SBW to bits over a number of rounds, the "pretty boy leagie" has much better long term money spinning potential. SBW will be conservative and tag and run, Botha will swing vicious but miss a lot and get tired, as per his orders on the day.

What really pisses me off, is Botha is tough and experienced enough to take hits from SBW all night and just keep grinding him down with the low body shots untill late in the match he finally starts to bring SBW's hands down, then you will see SBW's true colours, when he finds himself outmatched, like all bullies, he will crumble and the referee will wind up stopping the fight, and there will be blood on the floor

I hope I am wrong, and this fight is not corrupted already.

"Jap slap" was a wind up... I did karate for a few years when I lived in Wellington (John Jarvis and Leo Donnelly, and Willy Young taught me). I injured my hip and took up mountain biking to rehabilitate it then never quite got back into it.

I would watch this SBW vs Botha: if it was free. other than that I will stick with youtube of actual fighters. I posted up some videos of Lucia Rijker a while back

[ducatilover]

So this is essentially 'Merkin wrestling stuff, but with fisty cuffs?

[Paul in NZ]

Say what you want but I wouldn't get in the ring with either of them....

Not a huge fan of fight sports but regardless of that they are both pretty decent athletes. The don king style bs around boxing is what really puts me off...

[sil3nt]

Thai Boxing > MMA > Boxing

That is my opinion. Don't particularly enjoy the ground work in MMA because I can't fully appreciate what they do having never tried it. Boxing is just boring as hell to watch unless the fighters are between 60 and 80kg.

I think the best fights and fighters are around the 75kg mark.

[Banditbandit]

MMA is where it's at...

Boxing + Ju jitsu + Wrestling + Kickboxing + Karate = Awesome.

Bwhahaha .. it's all-in brawling - there is no art or "do" in any of it ...

[Banditbandit]

To be able to kick effectively your body is back over the centre point of balance and that takes the power out of your punching, swings and roundabouts I guess!

Some Chinese schools will tel you that to kick your feet over your waist immediately puts you off balance ...

[oldrider]

Kicking is pretty, I like pretty things.
When I grow up, I'm going to be a Shaolin Monk

Whatever you do ... "don't grow up" ... I tried it once, respectability asks too much and supports dishonesty and fuckwits!

My wife likes things kept simple so I just fitted right on in and I like pretty things too! :yes:

[ducatilover]

Whatever you do ... "don't grow up" ... I tried it once, respectability asks too much and supports dishonesty and fuckwits!

My wife likes things kept simple so I just fitted right on in and I like pretty things too! :yes:

:yes: I'll take that advice on board. No sign of any grown-up-ness yet anyway :Punk:

[Murray]

SBW will be conservative and tag and run, Botha will swing vicious but miss a lot and get tired, as per his orders on the day.

untill late in the match he finally starts to bring SBW's hands down

Did a lot of boxing when younger upto nationals finals level - personally I do not believe SBW has the footwork to tag and run, he appears to flat footed and to square on. Also what I have seen from him he will start dropping his gloves probably from round 3-4 onwards.

Boxing is one of the hardest sports and the nervous tension before and at the start of a fight can make jellymeat out of the tougest guys and thats where experience helps.

It will be interesting!!!

[oldrider]

Did a lot of boxing when younger upto nationals finals level - personally I do not believe SBW has the footwork to tag and run, he appears to flat footed and to square on. Also what I have seen from him he will start dropping his gloves probably from round 3-4 onwards.

Boxing is one of the hardest sports and the nervous tension before and at the start of a fight can make jellymeat out of the tougest guys and thats where experience helps.

It will be interesting!!!

True!

So many look good until the action starts, it's how they look and feel when it's all over that counts! I'm very interested in this one. :wait: . :corn:

[Edbear]

True!

So many look good until the action starts, it's how they look and feel when it's all over that counts! I'm very interested in this one. :wait: . :corn:

Yeah, I look good before the action too. Then when I strip off... :facepalm:

[MIXONE]

Just got an invite from the neighbour who is silly enough to pay the $ so I'll go have a watch.
I don't mind if SBW gets a hiding but I've never been a fan of a Safa with a big mouth so I figure I'm on a win win.

[Nova.]

was considering paying for the fight but decided I'll just see the results in the news.
I'm praying for sonny to get dropped.

[Nova.]

livestream!!

http://nrlstreams.blogspot.co.nz/

to get rid of the shit add hover over the big blue 'X' it'll turn into a small x then click it and it will close.

[Headbanger]

Fiva on Botha.

[Berries]

Fuck. That fourth round eh? Who would have thought it.

Joking aside, nice hit from Cooper. Thanks for the livestream link.

[Headbanger]

My opinion of Quade Cooper has risen significantly, Fucker showed humility and respect, and knocked the other guy the fuck out.

[Hopeful Bastard]

I use this for all my free viewing stuff.. http://www.vipboxsports.me/boxing/131939/1/sonny-bill-williams-vs-francios-botha-ppv-free-event-live-stream-online.html

But who would of picked Cooper to win by K.O 2mins 59 secs in?!?!? Jeeeezus!

[Berries]

While we wait -


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[Nova.]

Botha's entrance was Pure epic'ness haha A+++

[Headbanger]

Botha is a beast, sbw might have won the match, but Botha won the fight.

Mean as.

[Berries]

The online chat/abuse was better than the fight. Got to wonder why a title fight was only ten rounds though.

[george formby]

Botha is a beast, sbw might have won the match, but Botha won the fight.

Mean as.

A full 12 rounds would have had a different outcome me thinks. SBW was toast.

[Nova.]

hahahah but still bullshit, botha won that no doubt.

[Madness]

The online chat/abuse was better than the fight.

Were you kefe?

[Crasherfromwayback]

hahahah but still bullshit, botha won that no doubt.

Not on points he didn't in my opinion. Would have if it was 12 rounds I reckon. Was it, or was it not supposed to be 12?

[Nova.]

I heard 12 in the video, and from everyone else next thing you know its ten...

[Hopeful Bastard]

Supposed to be 12. Ref dropped it to 10. SBW had Points over Botha. Botha had too many Cheap shots. Those were BS punches thrown with the Ref in the middle splitting them up... Thats what done Sonny in...

Had it been 12, Botha would of taken it. But as I previously mentioned, Botha had those cheapies landing pretty damned hard. Thats what would of had him the win.

[MIXONE]

I think Sonny Boy was lucky it was only 10.

[george formby]

Supposed to be 12. Ref dropped it to 10. SBW had Points over Botha. Botha had too many Cheap shots. Those were BS punches thrown with the Ref in the middle splitting them up... Thats what done Sonny in...

Had it been 12, Botha would of taken it. But as I previously mentioned, Botha had those cheapies landing pretty damned hard. Thats what would of had him the win.
Cheap shots & lots of cuddles from SBW, thump, cuddle etc.

[Hopeful Bastard]

Cheap shots & lots of cuddles from SBW, thump, cuddle etc.

Won't dispute that, yes. But as far as I am aware, you aren't allowed to throw punches with the ref splitting you up?

[Headbanger]

Ref was a little homo midget, He needed to get the fuck out of the way and let the fighters fight.

[Berries]

Were you kefe?
No. But there are a couple of likely candidates on here.

[wysper]

Yes it was supposed to be 12 rounds.
NZ Tab has refunded all bets on the round knockout choice since there were supposed to be 12 rounds.

It is this sort of thing that makes boxing look so corrupt.

I thought the fight was fixed prior as I couldn't see SBW risking his career and earnings on an unknown result.

I doubt boxing will be able to clean it self up. Basically it is WWF now. Fight entertainment.
At least that is what it looks like from the outside. To someone who has no inner knowledge of the actual workings of the sport.

It just looks corrupt and fixed.

[unstuck]

Who remembers this one, one of the most memorable fights for me. Hearns broke his hand in the first round and did well to keep going until the 3rd, and then nighty night.:Punk:

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[oldrider]

Still haven't seen the fight but I thought it was supposed to be 12 rounds, was reading the clicky updates and suddenly the ref says "last round" ... WTF?

Obviously a moment of truth for SBW but he is also obviously better than most of his critics gave him credit for!

That was a big leap for a five bout boxer of any class .... serious decision time for SBW!

He has my respect for that alone! :yes:

[unstuck]

He has my respect for that alone! :yes:

Anyone who gets in the ring in front of a crowd gets my respect.:yes:

[Dangsta]

That fight just reinforced my view that boxing is corrupt at certain levels and that particular fight was fixed. I've never, ever heard of a title fight being ten rounds. In fact I've never seen a professional fight being a ten rounder. As soon as SBW got in trouble (and the guy couldn't stand up unassisted) the ref declares it a ten round fight. Bullshit. Lately the best fights I've seen have been amateur boxing and any MMA. Thanks for the live link.

[flyingcrocodile46]

What a fucking sham. Dirty cheating fight promoters fixed the fight and when it looked like SBW wasn't going to make the distance they cut it to 10 rounds.


"Why was it reduced...SBW was busy getting (beaten up) in the 9th that's why. What a joke." - lionel.kemm.9

"Agree, Botha had him in rounds 9 and 10 and pretty boy would not have lasted 11 rounds." - Piksteel

"This was a waste of time. Why even bother to schedule a boxing match if it was rigged before hand? Why reduce the rounds as soon as SBW is flat on his feet? Once again the bookies smile after paying off a couple of officials. It seems like it is not only doping that is currently big in Australia but match fixing as well! Australian sport and their officials are a disgrace." - johannes.m.villiers

Frankly I am ashamed to be a Kiwi today. Fuck you very much SBW you fucking egotistical homo. If you had any pride and integrity you would hand the title to Botha.

[george formby]

Won't dispute that, yes. But as far as I am aware, you aren't allowed to throw punches with the ref splitting you up?

That is true. Clinchers & spoilers are really frustrating but whether your clinching or taking cheap shots it's part of the game.

Can't remember his name but their was a top boxer a few years ago, Pom I think, who had a real penchant fo nut shots.

Anyhoo, 10 rounds.... I'm gutted. Glad it turned into a proper fight, though.

[Headbanger]

I'd be happy if SBW just gave up the title, He has no claim on it.

And whoever cut the fight short needs to be identified, and then put in the ring with botha.

Dirty fighting is one thing, A dirty orginisation is a whole different story.

[Nova.]

I'd be happy if SBW just gave up the title, He has no claim on it.

And whoever cut the fight short needs to be identified, and then put in the ring with botha.

Dirty fighting is one thing, A dirty orginisation is a whole different story.

we're you Head4 in the chat bar haha?
and I totally agree.

[Headbanger]

we're you Head4 in the chat bar haha?


Wasn't me, I used a different feed that was better quality then the one put in this thread, and I had it full screen on the television so didn't see the chat....

[Edbear]

Your a bloodthirsty pack of bastards.:love::love::Punk::Punk:


we're you Head4 in the chat bar haha?
and I totally agree.

What I don't understand is why cheap shots and low blows are okay by some here who diss SBW? I call it cheating and if someone can't win a fight fairly they can't win at all.

Botha sounds more like a street brawler than a boxer and maybe not sure of his actual boxing skills.

Just my 2c...

[BMWST?]

What I don't understand is why cheap shots and low blows are okay by some here who diss SBW? I call it cheating and if someone can't win a fight fairly they can't win at all.

Botha sounds more like a street brawler than a boxer and maybe not sure of his actual boxing skills.

Just my 2c...


part of the script is my guess

[steve_t]

What I don't understand is why cheap shots and low blows are okay by some here who diss SBW? I call it cheating and if someone can't win a fight fairly they can't win at all.

Botha sounds more like a street brawler than a boxer and maybe not sure of his actual boxing skills.

Just my 2c...

They're not OK; that's why Botha had a point deducted. Holding on is also not OK; that's why SBW had a point deducted. Poor quality boxing all round

[awa355]

I cant see sky selling a hell of a lot of SBW's next 'world' title fight.

As for not knowing how long the fight was going to last???? In professional sport???:facepalm:

[oldrider]

Just saw the end of the fight on TV news ... a step too far for SBW ... Botha (the bover boy) was robbed ... not a good look for boxing! (IMHO) :no:

How do they get away with these sorta things? :mellow: The fight was advertised as 12 x 3 min rounds, glad I didn't spend my money! (I was tempted)

Coopers punch looked to be a good one, haven't seen the rest of that fight either, ... too many fly by nighters organising boxing tournaments these days! :facepalm:

[unstuck]

Was Cooper trained by Mundine,or was he just a support person? Just a farce really, not good for SBW I feel.:no:

[Road kill]

No wonder MMA is the fastest growing pro' fight sport today.

Didn't really want to see Money boy get hurt or Frank have a stroke on stage.

But that was just silly:facepalm:

[Woodman]

Wot a fucken joke, just imagine if the RWC final was cut short because SBWs team was at risk of losing? same shit.

BTW I am not a SBW hater, he has immense footy skills and to stand in a boxing ring with thousands watching is pretty brave and not hiding away or big mouthing.

But what a sham.

[Laava]

Whole thing was a bit like a Katman/Edbear stoush really!

[Edbear]

Whole thing was a bit like a Katman/Edbear stoush really!

Oi! I resemble that remark! :girlfight:

[Laava]

You're not the only one!

[tri boy]

WBA never santioned the fight as a "title" fight. The promotors advertised it as one.
The belt that was gifted,(oops) awarded to SBW wasn't a WBA belt. (it was made by a Qld boxing offical:facepalm:)
This episode of Aussie fight promotion reminds me of Jimmy Sharmans boxers, who were ringers who traveled the outback staging fight nights in small towns, and split before the rigged fights were paid out fully.
Give Botha a fully sanctioned 12 round fight with SBW and the result will be honorable and just.MHO

[unstuck]

WBA never santioned the fight as a "title" fight. The promotors advertised it as one.
The belt that was gifted,(oops) awarded to SBW wasn't a WBA belt. (it was made by a Qld boxing offical:facepalm:)
This episode of Aussie fight promotion reminds me of Jimmy Sharmans boxers, who were ringers who traveled the outback staging fight nights in small towns, and split before the rigged fights were paid out fully.
Give Botha a fully sanctioned 12 round fight with SBW and the result will be honorable and just.MHO

In other word, SBW would get the stuffing knocked out of him.:yes:

[ellipsis]

Fuck you very much SBW you fucking egotistical homo. If you had any pride and integrity you would hand the title to Botha.

...the man has already proved his lack of this stuff in his dealings, with contracts broken and money/fame chasing, just another one that thinks he is something other than what he really is...
the world is full of sports personalities that are as good as him yet get no recognition for their input...as an aside...do we really need this kind of 'hero'...it's just part of the media mask that helps relegate the real issues facing us into the background and promotes mindlessness amongst the plebs...sport is great but it is only sport when it is fair and not in the control of the fiends that get rich from it...but that's life as we know it, and it wont change...

[Madness]

http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/734803_10151276068708837_2048032152_n.jpg

[Edbear]

...the man has already proved his lack of this stuff in his dealings, with contracts broken and money/fame chasing, just another one that thinks he is something other than what he really is...
the world is full of sports personalities that are as good as him yet get no recognition for their input...as an aside...do we really need this kind of 'hero'...it's just part of the media mask that helps relegate the real issues facing us into the background and promotes mindlessness amongst the plebs...sport is great but it is only sport when it is fair and not in the control of the fiends that get rich from it...but that's life as we know it, and it wont change...

People aren't so easily fooled these days and the promotors who try to fake it are no longer winning in the ratings. There is a backlash against fixing sporting events, witness the current world wide scandals about match fixing and drugs. Look towards a future of more openness from now on, hopefully, anyway.

[Headbanger]

Speaking of drugs....

The fucker showed positive for 2 on the banned list.

What a debacle, This fight should be struck from the record books.

Shes a funny old day when Quade Cooper is the best of the lot of em.....

[Headbanger]

And now they are saying no such tests were ever done.

Fuckers need to be stabbed.

[Wingnut]

Yep... This is a total mockery!!!!!!

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/8285110/SBW-fight-Botha-tests-positive-to-drugs

[BoristheBiter]

People aren't so easily fooled these days and the promotors who try to fake it are no longer winning in the ratings. There is a backlash against fixing sporting events, witness the current world wide scandals about match fixing and drugs. Look towards a future of more openness from now on, hopefully, anyway.

Then you obviously haven't watch the WWE/WWF, or what ever they call themselves now.

They make millions a year buy staging matches and taking performance drugs.

[BoristheBiter]

Yep... This is a total mockery!!!!!!

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/8285110/SBW-fight-Botha-tests-positive-to-drugs

on the radio this morning they said that Queensland has no drug testing for boxing.

[NordieBoy]

They're also saying Botha's coach said at a press conference late last year, that they were training for a 10 round fight and also that the last 4 WBA heavy weight fights have only been 10 rounds as well.

[Paul in NZ]

Why does this crap always happen in 'professional' boxing?

And why do we fall for it every time?

[unstuck]

"God willing". WTF, He will be a christian next, same as that other scumbag Tua.:laugh::laugh:

[Paul in NZ]

"God willing". WTF, He will be a christian next, same as that other scumbag Tua.:laugh::laugh:

I dont think 'God' has much to do with professional boxing...

[oldrider]

Shamefully I was momentarily sucked into getting interested (excited even) in this "unbelievable" event! .... Best that it had never even happed! :no:

Sonny Bill Williams has watered himself down to being forever remembered as a cheap "plastic fantastic" professional entertainer! :facepalm:

[unstuck]

I dont think 'God' has much to do with professional boxing...

I think the likes of Tua would disagree.:yes:

[Paul in NZ]

I think the likes of Tua would disagree.:yes:

Believing in the existence of God is probably an advantage. However didnt he get ripped off by his management team - or at least there was the usual massive dispute when the boxer finally retires and finds all his winning gone - spent on training camps and entourage..

No - I think 'the other guy' definitely has pro boxing as his domain.

[BoristheBiter]

Believing in the existence of God is probably an advantage. However didnt he get ripped off by his management team - or at least there was the usual massive dispute when the boxer finally retires and finds all his winning gone - spent on training camps and entourage..


bet he spent more on entourage than training.

[unstuck]

Being the good christian that he is:sick: He used his money to swindle a lot of people and ended up getting swindled back. Good job I say, just glad I took my money out of the deal before I got done like a few of my friends.:yes:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Uncle Bob's not too happy.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/8287014/Jones-SBW-fight-seedy-nasty-and-bogus

[Paul in NZ]

Uncle Bob's not too happy.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/8287014/Jones-SBW-fight-seedy-nasty-and-bogus

To be fair - Uncle Bobs never happy - and usually right...

[Crasherfromwayback]

To be fair - Uncle Bobs never happy - and usually right...

Yeah I think he's great! Bumped into him a few times at Lower Hutt golf club. Had a few natters with him. Once about Terry Serepisos THAT was funny.

[BoristheBiter]

Yeah I think he's great! Bumped into him a few times at Lower Hutt golf club. Had a few natters with him. Once about Terry Serepisos THAT was funny.

What does uncle Bob not think to much of cousin Terry then?:innocent:

[Crasherfromwayback]

What does uncle Bob not think to much of cousin Terry then?:innocent:

In a nutshell.

[awa355]

From Bobs article. ' The WBA's headquarters in Panama' ???:no::no::no: Sort've says it all.

[unstuck]

From Bobs article. ' The WBA's headquarters in Panama' ???:no::no::no: Sort've says it all.

Yeah, I was like WTF when I read that.:blink:

[HenryDorsetCase]

Being the good christian that he is:sick: He used his money to swindle a lot of people and ended up getting swindled back. Good job I say, just glad I took my money out of the deal before I got done like a few of my friends.:yes:


interesting: specifics please?

[unstuck]

interesting: specifics please?

Not really the place, but it involved a deal over some land north of Auckland. He was using his religion and celebrity to try to con some people and it backfired on him. I think it was kevin barry who swindled him back, on the same deal.:shifty: