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Bob
8th February 2013, 01:33
Bikers aged 60 and over are three times more likely to be hospitalised after a crash than younger bikers, a US study suggests. Chest and rib cage injuries are common.

The report – compiled from accident data from 2001 to 2008 from the US National Electronic Injury Surveillance System (which gathers information from 100 US hospitals) – suggests reduced bone strength may play a part.

The authors said "The greater severity of injuries among older adults may be due to the physiological changes that occur as the body ages, bone strength decreases, fat distribution may change and there is a decrease in the elasticity of the chest wall.”

The authors also suggested delayed action time, altered balance and worsening vision may be factors.

Brian d marge
8th February 2013, 02:58
as well as the fact they are American ,

Stephen

Bob
8th February 2013, 04:47
as well as the fact they are American ,

Stephen


Funny you should mention that... as the man from one of our (UK) major bike lobbying organisations pointed out, the figures for the US are much worse than the UK - which he put down to training schemes in the US being rather erratic in terms of quality and quantity.

In the UK you have to jump through an (ever increasing; they've now added another practical test to go from roughyl 250cc to unrestricted licence (so you now have a basic test to show you can wobble home, then a practical test to go from 125cc to 250cc and another practical test to go from 250cc to unrestricted) series of tests and training to ride a bike. US? "Got a car licence buddy? Hell go out there any buy (and ride home) the most powerful bike you can see in the store"! Well not quite, but what you need can be scarily low in terms of qualifications to ride.

Haggis2
8th February 2013, 06:54
what you need can be scarily low in terms of qualifications to breathe

ellipsis
8th February 2013, 07:10
...nationality or riding skills have fuck all to do with the fact that us older bodies dont bounce like we did 20 years ago...simple...

ducatilover
8th February 2013, 07:26
The longer you stay on the road the higher the chances of something happening? :innocent:

Brian d marge
8th February 2013, 14:07
...nationality or riding skills have fuck all to do with the fact that us older bodies dont bounce like we did 20 years ago...simple...
no the American , and now the chinese have are perfecting the art of stupidity , esp on motorcycles

Stephen

Road kill
8th February 2013, 16:38
...nationality or riding skills have fuck all to do with the fact that us older bodies dont bounce like we did 20 years ago...simple...

I was wondering how long it would be before somebody actually read past the heading.

Being a non bouncer myself,,,,,I could of told them that for far less than they probably paid some researcher.

caspernz
8th February 2013, 17:38
Hardly rocket science is it? Bit like being surprised at the wifeys' disgust when she finds you in the spa pool with the nanny...when you don't have kids :innocent::facepalm:

pete-blen
8th February 2013, 20:42
Thats a no brainer....

I know if I come off now..The chances are I won't be getting up
dusting myself off & carry on like once I could as if nothing happened..

I find I ride with that in the back of my mined these days...
old age is a cruel joke.... in some ways...

MIXONE
8th February 2013, 21:08
old age is a cruel joke.... in some ways...

Sure as fuck beats the alternative though.


Betty White says "Growing old aint for pussies".

Berries
9th February 2013, 23:15
Funnily enough older car drivers are more likely to be injured in a crash as well. And pedestrians.

Take a piece of celery and bend it until it snaps. That's the same noise a 75 year old femur makes that is.

Akzle
10th February 2013, 07:08
Take a piece of celery and bend it until it snaps. That's the same noise a 75 year old femur makes that is.

more nitrogen and trace elements in the soil will help you with that.

YellowDog
10th February 2013, 07:24
I would hope that by the fact that a rider has reached their 60s or 70s, by that stage they are a great deal more careful and responsible in their riding styles.

So yes, when they do come off they do suffer worse injuries, however less of them should be coming off :facepalm:

bluninja
10th February 2013, 07:35
Funnily enough older car drivers are more likely to be injured in a crash as well. And pedestrians.

Take a piece of celery and bend it until it snaps. That's the same noise a 75 year old femur makes that is.

Tried but the celery is too limp to snap...I'm sure that relates to getting older too :innocent:

pritch
10th February 2013, 12:49
I weigh about half again what I weighed when I started riding so it would seem fair to assume that if I hit something I'll hit it that much harder.
On the other hand the layer of blubber seems to act similar to an airbag. So I guess it's swings and roundabouts.

GrayWolf
10th February 2013, 19:24
Simple Medical FACTS!

if a person NEVER overstrained, lifted anything heavy, over exercised, jumped over things or from heights etc, in other words NEVER do a thing that in any way caused even minute 'trauma' on the spine? at age 35 it will STILL show degenerative signs.

By the time a person reaches 80yrs old, their body has only 50% (if in good health) of the capacity (strength, recovery, healing etc) they have in their 20's....

So physiologically as we get older we simply DO damage easier and to a greater extent from an injury/ accident that at 20 we would 'shrug off'.

sugilite
10th February 2013, 20:09
This chest/back Protector would help for chest, back, rib injuries, I'm really pleased with mine...

<img src="http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Esugilite/jpg/chest-protect.jpg">

Motu
10th February 2013, 21:59
A layer of fat does just as good a job, and is more fun to put on....although it takes a lot longer to get adequate protection.

SPman
10th February 2013, 22:03
This chest/back Protector would help for chest, back, rib injuries, I'm really pleased with mine...

http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~sugilite/jpg/chest-protect.jpgBeen looking at those - what are they like, comfort wise.

sugilite
11th February 2013, 00:29
Been looking at those - what are they like, comfort wise.
I'm finding the comfort to be great, and I don't mind unzipping the front of my leathers some on sizzling hot days as the chest protector holds the leathers off my skin allowing the air to circulate and cool me down. I have no issues with it at all.

Brian d marge
11th February 2013, 00:53
Bored

its the Americans ,

lets have a look at some of the winners there

http://<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/TEBCTIlfMow" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> (http://<iframe width=&quot;420&quot; height=&quot;315&quot; src=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/embed/TEBCTIlfMow&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; allowfullscreen></iframe>)


that was a cheap shot

how about this

http://<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/SNe4Y69m0DY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> (http://<iframe width=&quot;560&quot; height=&quot;315&quot; src=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/embed/SNe4Y69m0DY&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; allowfullscreen></iframe>)


and there more from china

Stephen

unstuck
11th February 2013, 08:12
I had a feeling bob was going to bite it on a left hander, the amount of times he crossed the yellows going round the leftys.:laugh:

SPman
11th February 2013, 16:58
Everything was going allright until this!!!!

No it wasn't - his road placement was terrible - let alone riding on the wrong side............

SPman
11th February 2013, 17:01
I'm finding the comfort to be great, and I don't mind unzipping the front of my leathers some on sizzling hot days as the chest protector holds the leathers off my skin allowing the air to circulate and cool me down. I have no issues with it at all.
Buy local, or online?

sugilite
11th February 2013, 17:55
Buy local, or online?
I bought it here (https://www.fc-moto.de/epages/fcm.sf/secdda54d9f15/?ObjectPath=/Shops/10207048/Products/Spidi-Defender-Back-Chest/SubProducts/Spidi-Defender-Back-Chest-0005&ChangeAction=SelectSubProduct)
I think it takes a further 19% off at checkout once it realizes your not from Germany.
I've never seen these for sale in NZ shops.

Road kill
11th February 2013, 19:34
I bought it here (https://www.fc-moto.de/epages/fcm.sf/secdda54d9f15/?ObjectPath=/Shops/10207048/Products/Spidi-Defender-Back-Chest/SubProducts/Spidi-Defender-Back-Chest-0005&ChangeAction=SelectSubProduct)
I think it takes a further 19% off at checkout once it realizes your not from Germany.
I've never seen these for sale in NZ shops.

Very similar vests are sold at some horse gear shops.

Rodeo vests for bull riding would also do the same job but wore outside the jacket.

Which is all good until your heart lungs an liver hit the inside of your rib cage during the secondary impact,,,,after which you sit there an think about it all for a while.<_<

Banditbandit
14th February 2013, 13:12
Bikers aged 60 and over are three times more likely to be hospitalised after a crash than younger bikers, a US study suggests. Chest and rib cage injuries are common.

The report – compiled from accident data from 2001 to 2008 from the US National Electronic Injury Surveillance System (which gathers information from 100 US hospitals) – suggests reduced bone strength may play a part.

The authors said "The greater severity of injuries among older adults may be due to the physiological changes that occur as the body ages, bone strength decreases, fat distribution may change and there is a decrease in the elasticity of the chest wall.”

The authors also suggested delayed action time, altered balance and worsening vision may be factors.

Well DuH .. I wonder how much they paid to learn ...


... that us older bodies dont bounce like we did 20 years ago...simple...

Hell - I don't bounce as well as I did 40 years ago - when I started riding ...


I weigh about half again what I weighed when I started riding

I've got about an extra 15 kilos ... that's why I get bikes with higher horse power ...

actungbaby
14th February 2013, 14:28
A layer of fat does just as good a job, and is more fun to put on....although it takes a lot longer to get adequate protection.

Do you want fries with that sir

I found landing on my butt works well

ellipsis
14th February 2013, 15:11
Hell - I don't bounce as well as I did 40 years ago - when I started riding ...

...20 years ago I had been riding 20 years also...but I only seem to have got to the, 'dont bounce so well', stage, in the last few years...cant climb trees and swing a chainsaw in one hand like I used to either...

actungbaby
14th February 2013, 18:34
[QUOTE=Bob;1130495118]Bikers aged 60 and over are three times more likely to be hospitalised after a crash than younger bikers, a US study suggests. Chest and rib cage injuries are common.

yes its good to be aware these things but think been well documented

Here that older bikers can get ito accidents but

Am sure for me the benifits bike travell are alot more postive for my well

Being and thats just something you know without haveing to read a study hehe

Just thinking alot worse this to happen to us like the big c

I rather be taken out on bike than going trough radation and god

knows what esle then still have a bad outcome

Life is precious yes but is to be lived

actungbaby
14th February 2013, 18:36
I weigh about half again what I weighed when I started riding so it would seem fair to assume that if I hit something I'll hit it that much harder.
On the other hand the layer of blubber seems to act similar to an airbag. So I guess it's swings and roundabouts.

Your still probley hald my weight mate so its all realitive

Ur got to be jokey sized to race bikes dont you ;-(