NZ Census 2013, 5 March, Religion & the Bill of Rights.

[BugSplat]

It's time to give up on Jedi Knight!

Your religion is your business and if the census form has a tick box that defines your faith, that's great.

I'll be ticking 'other' and writing in "Motorcyclist", why?

It can induce a Zen like state.
It's what I do on Sundays.

And . . .

Under the bill of rights it's illegal to discriminate on the basis of religion ;).

[Akzle]

It's time to give up on Jedi Knight!

Your religion is your business and if the census form has a tick box that defines faith you that's great.

I'll be ticking 'other' and writing in "Motorcyclist", why?

It can induce a Zen like state.
It's what I do on Sundays.

And . . .

Under the bill of rights it's illegal to discriminate on the basis of religion ;).

nice, but i have a better way of dealing with the government: don't.

[Grizzo]

Surely they can extract enough info out of fuckbook and twatter about how many times a day you shit or what cereal you eat.

[unstuck]

nice, but i have a better way of dealing with the government: don't.

So what happens when they come to arrest you for failing to fill in the census??? How would one go about avoiding arrest???:shifty:

[Scuba_Steve]

I change the name of me religion every time it comes round (still haven't found a name I like yet)
But 1 thing I keep constant is under ethnicity I always tick "Other" & put in "New Zealander". I've heard alot of people do the same, one day the wankers might learn to put a New Zealander option on the sheet... But probably not

[Akzle]

So what happens when they come to arrest you for failing to fill in the census??? How would one go about avoiding arrest???:shifty:
remember that phrase i told you for the tax boys? works for them, too...
("get the fuck off my property or i'm going to shoot you")

but no, there's this great legal term
"refused for cause", write it in big black pen on the envelope and send it back to them.

I change the name of me religion every time it comes round (still haven't found a name I like yet)
But 1 thing I keep constant is under ethnicity I always tick "Other" & put in "New Zealander". I've heard alot of people do the same, one day the wankers might learn to put a New Zealander option on the sheet... But probably not

i used "kiwi" but that was 8? years ago. a couple of censuses. from when i didn't know any better.

[unstuck]

remember that phrase i told you for the tax boys? works for them, too...
("get the fuck off my property or i'm going to shoot you")

but no, there's this great legal term
"refused for cause", write it in big black pen on the envelope and send it back to them.


i used "kiwi" but that was 8? years ago. a couple of censuses. from when i didn't know any better. Not a good idea to tell the cops you are going to shoot them:no: Been there done that. They turned up wanting to arrest me for not filling out the census years ago, I thought they were joking, but apparently they can.:yes:

[MIXONE]

The Christchurch Wizard used to "disappear" at census time.I think they nailed his arse in the end as well.

[Grizzo]

Not a good idea to tell the cops you are going to shoot them:no: Been there done that. They turned up wanting to arrest me for not filling out the census years ago, I thought they were joking, but apparently they can.:yes:

Yep the fuckers take it pretty serious alright.

[avgas]

You have got me thinking now about the religion thing.
Should put Nymphomaniac......because I would like to fuck on sundays and thing fucking is the best thing ever.
I suspect Madness things the same.

Or does that fall under protestant?

[unstuck]

You have got me thinking now about the religion thing.
Should put Nymphomaniac......because I would like to fuck on sundays and thing fucking is the best thing ever.
I suspect Madness things the same.

Or does that fall under protestant?

I always put satanist, just for shits and giggles. Gotta do something to keep this tiny brain amused.:shifty: Same as when I get the jehovas or mormons knocking on the door, I tell them satan wouldnt like me talking to them, they seem to back off pretty quickly.:Punk:

[Scuba_Steve]

You have got me thinking now about the religion thing.
Should put Nymphomaniac......because I would like to fuck on sundays and thing fucking is the best thing ever.

Only if you're a chick.
For guys it's Satyriasis, which I did call my religion one year awhile back.

[Akzle]

I always put satanist, just for shits and giggles. Gotta do something to keep this tiny brain amused.:shifty: Same as when I get the jehovas or mormons knocking on the door, I tell them satan wouldnt like me talking to them, they seem to back off pretty quickly.:Punk:

grab an empty tictac container, just casual as put your hand behind your neck, crack the container and turn your head on a sharp angle and start speaking in tongues.

[Grizzo]

grab an empty tictac container, just casual as put your hand behind your neck, crack the container and turn your head on a sharp angle and start speaking in tongues.

Open the door with no pants and sporting wood...

Sorry, first to send it to the gutter, I will go stand in the corner.

[unstuck]

Open the door with no pants and sporting wood...

Sorry, first to send it to the gutter, I will go stand in the corner.

I thought that was for when the avon lady turned up.:confused:

[mashman]

Same as when I get the jehovas or mormons knocking on the door, I tell them satan wouldnt like me talking to them, they seem to back off pretty quickly.:Punk:

Best I heard was to say that you were a Catholic. I might go for, mmmmm, Lesbianism this time around.

[Grizzo]

I thought that was for when the avon lady turned up.:confused:

Ahh the Avon lady...come in for some of my freshly baked cookies.

[unstuck]

grab an empty tictac container, just casual as put your hand behind your neck, crack the container and turn your head on a sharp angle and start speaking in tongues.

LOL, must spread. Must try that. I asked pete mortlock for an interpritation one night when he started speaking in tounges at the east coast bays christian fellowship, and I did not get one and told not to come again. I thought the bible said If someone was speaking in tounges, that there must be someone who could interpret what was being said, at least that is what he said a couple of weeks beforehand.:devil2:

[Berries]

but no, there's this great legal term
"refused for cause", write it in big black pen on the envelope and send it back to them.
Way too much effort.

Just bin it.

[yod]

An old flatmate once lied about her age on a census form (didn't want to admit being in her 30's so put down 29)

It's anonymous!!! :facepalm:

[davereid]

An old flatmate once lied about her age on a census form (didn't want to admit being in her 30's so put down 29)

It's anonymous!!! :facepalm:

No, the census is not anonymous, and its not even particularly private.

You have to put your full name and date of birth on it.

The data is released in mesh block format, of groups of as little as 100 individuals. So its easily compared with other publicly available data like your driver licence, vehicle registration, rates database, electoral roll and NZ Posts inhabitants list to reconnect "anonymous" data with the actual individual.

And the data is only protected by the statistics act. So the government can simply make it available any time it wishes.

[slofox]

I had a spell in a hospital once. The admission form asked about religion. I put "pantheist"...

One of the nurses came in a few days after and asked..."I see you said you are a pantheist. What is that if you don't mind my asking?"

I said "Oh we worship nature and the life force - that sort of thing. It's a bit like old fashioned paganism y'know - fertility rites, midnight meeting on hilltops for naked frolics - pretty cool really!"

Her eyes kinda bulged out and she took off out the door. Never did see that nurse again...

[Grizzo]

I had a spell in a hospital once. The admission form asked about religion. I put "pantheist"...

One of the nurses came in a few days after and asked..."I see you said you are a pantheist. What is that if you don't mind my asking?"

I said "Oh we worship nature and the life force - that sort of thing. It's a bit like old fashioned paganism y'know - fertility rites, midnight meeting on hilltops for naked frolics - pretty cool really!"

Her eyes kinda bulged out and she took off out the door. Never did see that nurse again...

:laugh:Gotta have a bit of fun aye!
....or are you telling the truth:shit:

[slofox]

:laugh:Gotta have a bit of fun aye!
....or are you telling the truth:shit:

Well, the story is true enough but the pantheist bit was just a wind-up for the hospital staff

[pzkpfw]

You have got me thinking now about the religion thing.
Should put Nymphomaniac......because I would like to fuck on sundays and thing fucking is the best thing ever.
...

Once a week is not nymphomania.

[unstuck]

Once a week is not nymphomania.

It is called MWC. Or bundied........IYKWIM........whoops wrong thread.:innocent:

[awa355]

Here's a list of reconized religions.

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must be one in there you can enter.

[unstuck]

Here's a list of reconized religions.

must be one in there you can enter.

What, no Dudeism. :gob:

[Banditbandit]

The Christchurch Wizard used to "disappear" at census time.I think they nailed his arse in the end as well.

Jack used to go passed the 12-mile limit - so technically he was not in New Zealand ..

For several censi now I have just answered the questions I want to answer (bugger all) and scrawl "intrusive' across the rest of the form ... I've never had a censor even come back to query me ... let alone get prosecuted.

Same again this tie round - though this year I might get a big stamp made up so I can stamp "intrusive" all over the form.

[Banditbandit]

Here's a list of reconized religions.

must be one in there you can enter.

Some of those are sects - not Religionsw .. Buddhism is a religion, Zen is a sect

Christianity is a religion - Baptist, Anglican, Catholic etc are sects.

[awa355]

What, no Dudeism. :gob:

Nah, but there is Vampirism.

[Grizzo]

What, no Dudeism. :gob:

That falls under ZEN:mellow:

[Grizzo]

Actually, I like the look of this bloke, seems to have his shit together.
Think I'll do that religion.:Punk:

[unstuck]

Actually, I like the look of this bloke, seems to have his shit together.
Think I'll do that religion.:Punk:

And that is just him asking for the tithes to be collected, wait until he gets going on the sermon.:Punk:

[avgas]

Once a week is not nymphomania.
You will have to speak up.
I'm blind you see.

[davereid]

For several censi now I have just answered the questions I want to answer (bugger all) and scrawl "intrusive' across the rest of the form ...

Every statistician knows that no data is actually better than incorrect data. And that a small accurate sample is much better than a 100% sample, that is full of rubbish.

Thats one of the reasons you can be sure the census is about collecting personal information not statistical information.

A voluntary sample would give high quality data. Thats what a statistician would really want.

But most of this thread is about people discussing what garbage they are going to put on the form.

I will quietly be joining you all. I will put nothing on the form that is correct.

[Akzle]

I will quietly be joining you all. I will put nothing on the form that is correct.

if i knew you better, this is a great open to some shit slinging. for a start you'd have to put don woman... and once the bean counters know you bleed out the crotch, well.. anything else is written off as "normal" innit?

[davereid]

if i knew you better, this is a great open to some shit slinging. for a start you'd have to put don woman... and once the bean counters know you bleed out the crotch, well.. anything else is written off as "normal" innit?

LOL I wouldn't be worried.

Last time I said I didnt have a job, but I commuted to work by boat.

Which is a neat feat as the GIS output shows your meshblock residence, and there is no water for miles except in my brew barrel quietly fermenting.

[Grizzo]

LOL I wouldn't be worried.

Last time I said I didnt have a job, but I commuted to work by boat.

Which is a neat feat as the GIS output shows your meshblock residence, and there is no water for miles except in my brew barrel quietly fermenting.

Brilliant, I think my commuting will be done by Tardis this census.

[Scuba_Steve]

got delivered mine today, Bikes still do not count as motor vehicles

[Akzle]

i don't have a letterbox :whistle:

[BigAl]

I hear that 'Prosserism' is a new religion catching on, as long as you don't originate from Wogistan.

[Scuba_Steve]

i don't have a letterbox :whistle:

they come to the door


Ya gotta question the whole point of these things tho, we've got a whole lot of Govt depts with all this info anyways (minus maybe religion & some living arrangements).

[FJRider]

Not a good idea to tell the cops you are going to shoot them:no: Been there done that. They turned up wanting to arrest me for not filling out the census years ago, I thought they were joking, but apparently they can.:yes:

Leave the country for the day. The census forms are only required by law to be completed ... IF you are in New Zealand (or its territories) at the time of census.

The Wizard of Christchurch had his own method of doing this ... :laugh:

From the Census site ..


Filling in census forms is required by law. Under the Statistics Act 1975, everyone in New Zealand on census day must fill in a census form. You could be fined if you don't participate or if you provide false or incomplete information.

If legal action becomes necessary, the fine is up to $500, with a further $20 a day for each day after conviction until the person completes the forms.

[Akzle]

they come to the door
well, guess i'll take my door off and stick it out on the road then... get my rocking chair out and polish my shotgun...

Leave the country for the day. The census forms are only required by law to be completed ... IF you are in New Zealand (or its territories) at the time of census.

huh. legally newzealand is actually only "the territorial waters of" - admiralty law doesn't extend the legislation to cover land. and i'm on land.

[Wingnut]

[QUOTE=Akzle;1130501130]well, guess i'll take my door off and stick it out on the road then... get my rocking chair out and polish my shotgun...

Who dat............... Who deer............

[haydes55]

I'm a member of the westborough baptist church.:spanking:

[Akzle]

Who dat............... Who deer............

whodat...who deer... oh dear. dig a hole in the back paddock.