View Full Version : Please help me plan a 1-2 week holiday for May/June 2013?
bosslady
12th February 2013, 19:23
Hi All, I have never had any more than a few days off in a row since I started working with the company I'm with now :violin: (3 years) and once my asst. is trained up, I will be strongly encouraged (read, forced) to take at least 1-2 weeks annual leave. And to be honest, I don't forsee the opportunity for such a long break reappearing for at least another year, maybe more SO I would like to make the very most of what I can get.
I am in my mid 20's and ashamedly have seen very little of NZ. I think the furthest north I've been is Mangawhai (maybe?) and the furthest south of the country I've been is Wellington, once, a couple years ago. I've never even been to the South Island... Therefore I thought I am getting a rare break from work, I have a new found hobby/love, I really want to see more of our country (it's embarrassing that I've spent bugger all time outside of Auckland!) and if I don't plan something I know that I will just stay home and watch day time tv the WHOLE time.
I was wondering if any body could offer any (helpful, constructive) advice on anything from routes, sightseeing/attractions, accommodation, eateries, bike gear i.e. clothing, equipment i.e. gps???, anything I should do to/add to my bike or even any consumables or comforts I should/could take with me. I really want to plan this as well as I can so as to have as little (inconvenient, stressful, annoying) mishaps or surprises as possible. I also want to have a blast and meet new people if I can and the other reason for planning so far in advance of course is I need to save! I know May/June isn't exactly summer, but I will have to take what I can get...
Just to throw in here quickly - I want to make sure I visit some family I haven't seen for quite a few years (and hey, not going to lie I'll prob stay with them a night or two as well to save on accom!). I have family in Hastings, Waipawa and Palmerston North so stops there are a must. I also have an Aunt that I think is still in Christchurch and a girlfriend there I'd like to visit too. Also clearly I will be travelling on my own... unless anyone wants to come with but I doubt it, lol.
Please help!
So here's what I have so far in the way of suggestions/tips/advice...
POSSIBLE ROUTES/ATTRACTIONS:
* http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?saddr=Waipawa,+Hawke's+Bay&daddr=Porangahau+to:Weber,+Manawatu-Wanganui+to:Dannevirke,+Manawatu-Wanganui&hl=en&ll=-40.297858,176.485062&spn=0.412675,1.056747&sll=-40.275335,176.275291&sspn=0.206406,0.528374&geocode=FRWKnv0dRouGCinlPeXfAuFpbTFAFaNDYe8ABQ%3BF dMKmf0dB-OGCik7_KeB-UBCbTFQ-aJDYe8ABQ%3BFd6Gl_0dk0uCCimlBKj9kyZCbTHQKqNDYe8ABQ %3BFQeEmv0d3BN_CilJg0lzPO1BbTHwvqJDYe8ABQ&oq=danne&mra=ls&t=m&z=11
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Just so you can get a feel for the distances. This is the trip I did by car in 1 week over christmas: https://maps.google.co.nz/maps?saddr=Taupo,+Waikato,+Neuseeland&daddr=Wellington+to:Picton,+Marlborough+to:Hanmer+ Springs+to:Arthurs+Pass+Visitor+Centre,+West+Coast +Road,+Arthur%27s+Pass+to:Murchison,+Tasman+to:Pic ton,+Marlborough+to:Palmerston+north&hl=en&ll=-41.054502,173.71582&spn=6.577117,9.371338&sll=-40.717237,174.424382&sspn=6.610973,9.371338&geocode=FQS0sf0dQp5-CilbFksUd-9rbTHgCaNDYe8ABQ%3BFcQEiv0drN9qCinLdOlJ_LE4bTFwtBO iY-8ACg%3BFZ_0if0dbAtfCikFONSk6iY5bTFgoXmEhu8ABQ%3BFd 0Zd_0dmShNCilHWVRveWMwbTHwc3mEhu8ABQ%3BFVzMcP0dYNI 5CiHVpk3oJ69HXSmFMM7xqFoubTHVpk3oJ69HXQ%3BFQ4ugv0d dJpFCinTuTVnB846bTGwkXmEhu8ABQ%3BFZ_0if0dbAtfCikFO NSk6iY5bTFgoXmEhu8ABQ%3BFc5FmP0dlpF3CimDRKO9n61BbT EVmaJDYe8ABQ&t=h&mra=ls&z=7
And go to Nelson and Golden Bay. Stop at the Abel Tasman National Park. Golden Bay has one of the most beautiful beaches ever. Wharariki Beach https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=wharariki+beach&hl=en&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=W1UhUaKDCo6RkgX78ICoCA&sqi=2&ved=0CDUQsAQ&biw=1234&bih=897, deep white sand and a big rock arch. But it is 20 minutes or so on the gravel road to get there.
From Nelson you can go south via the Nelson Lakes, it's beautiful there, and go to Hanmer Springs or the west coast. In country roads are much more windy than the coastal roads and try to avoid the east coast roads they are pretty boring. Although whale watching in Kaikoura is pretty amazing.
Arthurs Pass village, nice road, but aside of getting petrol there is not much going on in the village. There are some days 1.5 or so hour hikes up to several day trips you can do there. But other than that, don't bother staying there if you don't have to.
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off the ferry, Queen Charlotte drive to Havelock, SHW 6 to Nelson, then SWH 6 all the way down through Buller gorge, Greymouth, Hasst Pass, Wanaka, then over the Crown range then back onto SHW 6 either turn right & head to Arrow town then Queens town & head further south from there or right & head to Central via Cromwell, Alexandra ... etc
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Do Queen Charlotte Dr towards Picton as the viewing spots are on the water side of the road at a tight BLIND corner and you are not alowed to cross the road. Drive to Havelock and drive back toward Picton for about 10km Then drive back to Havelock, brunch at the Mussel Pot magic. regards Richard
* Need to use my motorcycle atlas and write down a list of things/sights I want to see/visit
ACCOMMODATION
* Get a copy of Jasons.co.nz so that I can look at some places to stay
* Grease up to some KBr's so that I can bunk at theirs, must still aquire said list!
* Friend in Taupo if needed (thanks Grashopper, haha)
* Family in Hastings
* Family in Waipawa
* Famly in Palmerston
GEAR I MAY NEED
* Textile waterproof jacket with a liner TICK
* Textile waterproof pants with a liner TICK Although I am considering if perhaps I should go up a size in pants because I struggle as it is with mine, fit well but my legs are long so they don't go down as far as I'd like. and I'd like to get some more layers under there
* Get some waterproof gloves Tried these on at Cyclespot Honda http://www.revzilla.com/product/alpinestars-365-gore-tex-gloves think I might get them when I have the $$
* Get some waterproof boots Still not 100% sure about this
* Tent?
* Thermals (merino perhaps?) (How many different sets of thermals though I wonder?)
* Get some waterproof/touring socks (how many pairs????)
* Do up an itinerary
* Locator beacon? Going with someone possibly now so not entirely sure this is necessary?
* High Visibility Vest just in case.. TICK
* Pocket warmers?
* Balaclava
* Rain Jacket/Pants
* Topbox
* Can I get a charger for my phone to attach to my bike?
* Should I take some kind of jump start battery?
* New Tyres
OTHER STUFF
* I definitely don't want to travel any more than 300-400km MAX so I don't spend my whole tripe riding
* Possibly stay 2 nights at each stop (in the SI anyway) so I can do some proper looking around and such?
* I want at least two thirds of my trip in the SI
* Cut off time for riding each day is 4pm(ish). I can't ride between 10pm and 5pm because of my license restrictions - but I don't want to ride in the dark any way....
* I have roadside assistance but just checked and it's SUPER basic. I emailed last week and asked how much it would cost to upgrade to the extensive or whatever package
* Do up an itinerary
* Need to read the ferry thread re: tying down my bike
* Look into Google Latitude App for my smartphone
FJRider
12th February 2013, 20:02
It's really easy. Get a full map of both north and south island. Highlight the locations of fellow (and felless's) KB'rs .. maybe even a long lost/forgotten (almost) relative or three ...
Join the dots. I (just happen to) know you have a good motorcycle atlas that shows all the good (and some are really good) roads. Use said maps to choose the best detours to your destinations.
Find a copy of Jasons.co.nz Holiday Parks and Campgrounds.( Free at many campgrounds and other places) in case you find yourself too far from a friendly KB'r/family bed. (off season ... cabins often cheap)
Then post plans of your route (plan A) ... and we will advise of possible changes.
Plans B,C,D,E,F, and G ... may be found. But it is YOUR final decision where you go.
And you WILL enjoy it.
Gremlin
12th February 2013, 20:03
Personally, if getting a decent break is hard, I use it as best possible. ie, Living in the North Island, spend as much of the break in the South Island, rather than meandering down the island towards the South. Factor in the travel time between Auckland and the South Island, and I budget a day each way (Auckland to Picton or vice versa). This also depends on your experience and how much you want to travel each day. Lop those days off the total break and suddenly you don't have as much time as first thought. The North Island (for us in the north) could be travelled more easily and more frequently than crossing to the south.
As for gear, I'd go textile. The weather (especially towards that time) can either be hot like summer or (more likely) wet and cold like winter. I tour earlier in the year (going south for 2 weeks after Paeroa) with a better chance of good weather. You also need to think if you're going to have a different bike by then, or not.
For cheap accommodation, I use www.bbh.co.nz to find decent places. You can also get a card to give you discounts (Interislander sailings and accommodation rates)
neels
12th February 2013, 20:06
Let all of the people you may visit know that you may turn up at some point, and find out when they definately won't be at home to visitors so you know when you won't have a bed there, then just point your bike in a direction that suits the weather and ride as you see fit and see who you see when you see them.
And take a tent, so it doesn't matter where you end up.
jellywrestler
12th February 2013, 20:17
i.e. clothing, equipment i.e. gps???, it's a tough time of the year for clothing, how much of a pussy are you in the cold on a bike? heated jackets are a great option so you don't need to pile on the extra layer after layer of clothes which can add to the size of the load you carry and be a prick to get dry if you get them all wet.
snow is an option too at that time of the year so you'll need coastal option sif it looks real bad and you must get home, the five day forecast is a good way to work on this ahead.
bosslady
12th February 2013, 21:01
Personally, if getting a decent break is hard, I use it as best possible. ie, Living in the North Island, spend as much of the break in the South Island, rather than meandering down the island towards the South. Factor in the travel time between Auckland and the South Island, and I budget a day each way (Auckland to Picton or vice versa). This also depends on your experience and how much you want to travel each day. Lop those days off the total break and suddenly you don't have as much time as first thought. The North Island (for us in the north) could be travelled more easily and more frequently than crossing to the south.
As for gear, I'd go textile. The weather (especially towards that time) can either be hot like summer or (more likely) wet and cold like winter. I tour earlier in the year (going south for 2 weeks after Paeroa) with a better chance of good weather. You also need to think if you're going to have a different bike by then, or not.
For cheap accommodation, I use www.bbh.co.nz to find decent places. You can also get a card to give you discounts (Interislander sailings and accommodation rates)
I only have textiles so that's sorted I guess. I don't think I'd want to travel any more than 300 - 400km a day. Unless I come into some unexpected money, or rob a bank, I'm definitely still going to have the same bike too.
it's a tough time of the year for clothing, how much of a pussy are you in the cold on a bike? heated jackets are a great option so you don't need to pile on the extra layer after layer of clothes which can add to the size of the load you carry and be a prick to get dry if you get them all wet.
snow is an option too at that time of the year so you'll need coastal option sif it looks real bad and you must get home, the five day forecast is a good way to work on this ahead.
In the cold yup, I'm a puss. I haven't had much experience in the cold on a bike. My textiles come with a removable liner so I guess this will help but it doesn't leave much room for much else in the way of layers. My jacket and pants are waterproof or whatever too.
Gremlin
12th February 2013, 21:10
My jacket and pants are waterproof or whatever too.
Sure... you see, the problem is I suspect you were told that by the salesman. The proof will be riding on the South Island West Coast, in rainy weather. That's when it would be drier to jump in a swimming pool than go ride a motorcycle.
If you're limited by layers then you'd wanted heated clothing, but the problem is the GN's electrical output. When you don't have enough layers to keep yourself warm (how easily do you feel the cold - have you used the thermal jacket liner in summer at all?) you need to inject more warmth, ie, heated grips, vest, but I doubt the GN could handle the load...
FJRider
12th February 2013, 21:17
it's a tough time of the year for clothing, how much of a pussy are you in the cold on a bike? heated jackets are a great option so you don't need to pile on the extra layer after layer of clothes which can add to the size of the load you carry and be a prick to get dry if you get them all wet.
snow is an option too at that time of the year so you'll need coastal option sif it looks real bad and you must get home, the five day forecast is a good way to work on this ahead.
May-June in the South Island isn't as bad as some make out. The Ski-fields that make their own snow open mid June. Most of the Roading in the south island is lowland. There are mountain areas/passes that can be subject to snow (and cooler temperatures) ... but snow warnings are good. And alternative routes are there.
Plenty of layers, and easy to remove layers ... with a good waterproof outer layer ... and regular stops (at warm places). Not a big issue.
A few spare pairs of gloves ... and socks ... (good dry boots) and you can keep the cold at bay.
Add a "rest" day in your schedule ... (1 in 5 is good) if weather or a nice location encourages you to stay an extra day ... no rush to make up time.
Go where there is no/less rain.
Mail home dirty clothes. Replace with cheap new. (washing/drying clothes can be a pain)
If you cant see a weather map ... text a friend to look at one for you.
Look at travel insurance/roadside assist etc. It may seem expensive ... but its cheap if you need it.
Regular texts to various friends when you stop. Telling your location/days destination. If you go missing ... its easier to look for you ... if they know where you reached.
bosslady
12th February 2013, 21:29
Sure... you see, the problem is I suspect you were told that by the salesman. The proof will be riding on the South Island West Coast, in rainy weather. That's when it would be drier to jump in a swimming pool than go ride a motorcycle.
If you're limited by layers then you'd wanted heated clothing, but the problem is the GN's electrical output. When you don't have enough layers to keep yourself warm (how easily do you feel the cold - have you used the thermal jacket liner in summer at all?) you need to inject more warmth, ie, heated grips, vest, but I doubt the GN could handle the load...
No salesperson, I bought online, this is the gear I bought http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/154861-Have-I-made-some-newbie-mistakes
Highish end alpinestars textiles. I got caught out in the rain on a ride to Taupo and the jacket and pants were true to their word in terms of waterproof-ness. The gloves and boots however, major FAIL. So perhaps I will invest in waterproof boots and gloves, I was gonna do the latter anyway.
And heated clothing?.... wtf? lol
I can't use the liner for my pants or jacket, pass out from heat and dehydration! I wasn't warm but was mostly ok in the wind and rain on the way to taupo but was shaking from the cold when I took my gear off because I had been wearing shorts and singlets underneath and the rain soaked my leather gloves and boots.
Gremlin
12th February 2013, 21:29
Look at travel insurance/roadside assist etc. It may seem expensive ... but its cheap if you need it.
Excellent point. Consider AA Plus membership. If anything happens, the Plus grade will get you and your bike home, not just to the nearest service centre...
BMWST?
12th February 2013, 21:31
if you feel the cold i would say heated grips are a must.They do more than keep your hands warm.If your gear doesnt allow for heavy layers of clothes you have to layer up thin layers,and thats where the merino stuff is awesome.I am sure a gn would handle heated grips at open road speed.
FJRider
12th February 2013, 21:33
The proof will be riding on the South Island West Coast, in rainy weather. That's when it would be drier to jump in a swimming pool than go ride a motorcycle.
Yep ... you learn the true definition of waterproof. Those days you ride ... only if you HAVE too ...
If you're limited by layers then you'd wanted heated clothing.
Choice of quality clothing helps a lot. Midnight practice rides to check out how warm you'll be with various combinations. As do rides in downpours ... to check waterproofing.
bosslady
12th February 2013, 21:38
May-June in the South Island isn't as bad as some make out. The Ski-fields that make their own snow open mid June. Most of the Roading in the south island is lowland. There are mountain areas/passes that can be subject to snow (and cooler temperatures) ... but snow warnings are good. And alternative routes are there.
Plenty of layers, and easy to remove layers ... with a good waterproof outer layer ... and regular stops (at warm places). Not a big issue.
A few spare pairs of gloves ... and socks ... (good dry boots) and you can keep the cold at bay.
Add a "rest" day in your schedule ... (1 in 5 is good) if weather or a nice location encourages you to stay an extra day ... no rush to make up time.
Go where there is no/less rain.
Mail home dirty clothes. Replace with cheap new. (washing/drying clothes can be a pain)
If you cant see a weather map ... text a friend to look at one for you.
Look at travel insurance/roadside assist etc. It may seem expensive ... but its cheap if you need it.
Regular texts to various friends when you stop. Telling your location/days destination. If you go missing ... its easier to look for you ... if they know where you reached.
I saw someone started a thread about some touring or waterproof socks or something the other day so maybe that's worth looking into, I only own ankle socks.
Gloves, yup, agree there for sure...
Dunno bout mailing my dirty britches, I'll have to think on that one LOL
I already have roadside assistance so that's done. But travel insurance? explain if you care to?
I am concerned about something happening to me and thought I could text someone at certain times to let them know where I am, but is that enough? I also worry you know, young thang like me, alone, nobody for miles etc..loll
Gremlin
12th February 2013, 21:43
I already have roadside assistance so that's done. But travel insurance? explain if you care to?
I assume this is from your motorcycle insurance. Read your policy on what will actually be provided. I found it extremely limiting, with a very low number of dollars for each event, and wouldn't cover the cost at all, for bike and person transport back to base if somewhere else in the country far from home...
Also best to give a friend your itinerary, so they can keep track, and check in. If something were to happen, narrowing the search area down will greatly increase your chances (yeah, sounds morbid, but should something happen, it can be pretty serious, pretty quick). I carry a personal locator beacon for those sorts of major emergencies, but we also regularly head to places with no mobile coverage and little chance of human contact.
jellywrestler
12th February 2013, 21:43
if you feel the cold i would say heated grips are a must.
tell him he's dreamin.
heated grips are not a patch on a heated vest.
cold fingers and toes are a result of your body conserving it's heat in the cold and limiting the blood to those parts. when your core is warm it'll send plenty of warm blood to those parts and to warm your core use a heated jacket...
i rarely use mine and have travelled for two weeks from top to bottom of the SI early june and not switched it on but when you want to it's got many advantages over grips that for a starter usually end up being sold with your bike...
bosslady
12th February 2013, 21:45
I assume this is from your motorcycle insurance. Read your policy on what will actually be provided. I found it extremely limiting, with a very low number of dollars for each event, and wouldn't cover the cost at all, for bike and person transport back to base if somewhere else in the country far from home...
I got it with kiwibike, can't remember what I get out of it though.
Gremlin
12th February 2013, 21:47
I got it with kiwibike, can't remember what I get out of it though.
Yup, Kiwibike is a broker, and your insurer is actually someone else. I'm via Kiwibike to Swann. Ask Kiwibike for a copy of your policy's roadside assistance terms.
FJRider
12th February 2013, 21:48
I wasn't warm but was mostly ok in the wind and rain on the way to taupo but was shaking from the cold when I took my gear off because I had been wearing shorts and singlets underneath and the rain soaked my leather gloves and boots.
In some respects ... you know already what you need to have or replace. Or what to expect/do differently "next time" ...
Already learning.
On a motorcycle you feel the cold in three places ... hands/feet/knees. Body core temperature is important. If those three are cold ... body core temp is dropping, as is your attention to your riding.
Have a cut-off time of the day where you STOP. 4 pm is good. Time (and daylight) to find a bed/food/internet cafe before dark. Unfamiliar roads to unfamiliar destinations ALWAYS seem to take longer than they should. (such is life)
bosslady
12th February 2013, 21:56
In some respects ... you know already what you need to have or replace. Or what to expect/do differently "next time" ...
Already learning.
On a motorcycle you feel the cold in three places ... hands/feet/knees. Body core temperature is important. If those three are cold ... body core temp is dropping, as is your attention to your riding.
Have a cut-off time of the day where you STOP. 4 pm is good. Time (and daylight) to find a bed/food/internet cafe before dark. Unfamiliar roads to unfamiliar destinations ALWAYS seem to take longer than they should. (such is life)
that's a good idea, a cut off time I mean. and yes.... I know all about getting lost on unfamiliar roads...
neels
12th February 2013, 21:57
I can't use the liner for my pants or jacket, pass out from heat and dehydration! I wasn't warm but was mostly ok in the wind and rain on the way to taupo but was shaking from the cold when I took my gear off because I had been wearing shorts and singlets underneath and the rain soaked my leather gloves and boots.
Merino is your friend.
EJK
12th February 2013, 21:58
Could show you some good roads if passing through Christchurch.
FJRider
12th February 2013, 22:04
I saw someone started a thread about some touring or waterproof socks or something the other day so maybe that's worth looking into, I only own ankle socks.
Gloves, yup, agree there for sure...
Dunno bout mailing my dirty britches, I'll have to think on that one LOL
I already have roadside assistance so that's done. But travel insurance? explain if you care to?
I am concerned about something happening to me and thought I could text someone at certain times to let them know where I am, but is that enough? I also worry you know, young thang like me, alone, nobody for miles etc..loll
I once used plastic bags outside my socks. (crappy boots) They kept wind/water out of my socks. (and acted as a thermal layer) :yes:
Gloves are cheap heat insurance. <_<
Dirty girls get around ... :laugh:
Listen to Gremlin ...
A short .... "am in .. heading for .. " text with a NRN (no reply necessary) to a mate ... might get a search started in the right area ... hours sooner. Entirely YOUR decision.
And have a list of phone numbers that will accept collect calls (friends/family) in urgent situations. (or 0800 numbers)
FJRider
12th February 2013, 22:13
Could show you some good roads if passing through Christchurch.
This is one of the reasons threads such as these are good. Networking ... to show others your areas/roads.
Putting names to faces is fun too ...
Gremlin
12th February 2013, 22:13
Other safety option to consider:
I wear a dog tag of sorts (came free with the back protector) with name, blood type, ICE details etc.
unstuck
13th February 2013, 04:44
We regret to inform you that the South Island will be closed from may, until november ,2013. We are sorry for any inconvinence this may cause.:devil2:
PrincessBandit
13th February 2013, 05:54
If you're traveling on a ginny there's no doubt it should handle the task ahead, but they're not exactly a powerhouse...
My advice would be that if you really want to enjoy and get the most out of visiting the SI don't rush through it. We really appreciated the extra time we took on our trip (just over 2 weeks) rather than trying to cram too much in. Also, if you're limited in experience doing longer rides keep in mind that blustery wind, relentless rain and cold can be physically and mentally draining. Not saying you'll necessarily experience all those things on your trip, but it's quite possible. Allow rest time as well as time to enjoy the places you stop. It's a long way to go only to feel, at the end of it, that you didn't "see the country" as you thought you might. Even if you don't get as much area covered, one hopes there will be other opportunities to get down south again at a later stage; you'll also have the benefit of hindsight to modify your arrangements/gear etc. as to how to improve your traveling for next time.
As for the cold, each time I've travelled in the freezy cold I've wished I'd remembered to try out my pocket warmers (you know, those things you can get from camping/outdoor shops that you snap the little metal thingy in and it heats them up). Tbh, not having tried them out in reality they may not live up to my expectations, but would definitely be a cheaper option to look into than a heated jacket - which may or may not stretch the ginny's electrical capacity.
Have a good read in the ferry mega thread too so that you're up on the play regarding how to secure your bike on the ferry (not that difficult, and there should be someone on board - another rider or staff - who can assist you with tying it down).
I'm envious that you're planning your trip, even though we only did ours a month ago. Have a great time!
nadroj
13th February 2013, 06:21
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=560068428 - Slofox has this for sale in about your size.
bosslady
13th February 2013, 06:24
I assume this is from your motorcycle insurance. Read your policy on what will actually be provided. I found it extremely limiting, with a very low number of dollars for each event, and wouldn't cover the cost at all, for bike and person transport back to base if somewhere else in the country far from home...
Also best to give a friend your itinerary, so they can keep track, and check in. If something were to happen, narrowing the search area down will greatly increase your chances (yeah, sounds morbid, but should something happen, it can be pretty serious, pretty quick). I carry a personal locator beacon for those sorts of major emergencies, but we also regularly head to places with no mobile coverage and little chance of human contact.
Yes I will email Dave today and ask for a copy of my policy.. dunno where I putted it...
Personal locator beacon? Tell me more?
Other safety option to consider:
I wear a dog tag of sorts (came free with the back protector) with name, blood type, ICE details etc.
Not a bad idea.
We regret to inform you that the South Island will be closed from may, until november ,2013. We are sorry for any inconvinence this may cause.:devil2:
YEA WHATEVER!!
bosslady
13th February 2013, 06:43
Hey this looks good, good price too???
http://www.trademe.co.nz/jewellery-watches/mens-jewellery/necklaces/auction-561700534.htm
FJRider
13th February 2013, 07:03
Hey this looks good, good price too???
http://www.trademe.co.nz/jewellery-watches/mens-jewellery/necklaces/auction-561700534.htm
I name my clothing, have all the phone numbers in my phone (keep it unlocked when you are on the road). Addresses in my wallet. And the bike is registered to me. How many forms of ID do you require .. ???
A medic Alert bracelet is better if you have "existing medical conditions" .. and they cross-match your blood should you need more ...
Save the money for Merino clothing. That stuff is good (but expensive)
Gremlin
13th February 2013, 10:00
Personal locator beacon? Tell me more?
Probably overkill for you, but always good to know... this is it: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boats-marine/parts-accessories/safety/auction-562181416.htm
Essentially, a person version of the type boaties use. Register it to yourself (with your details). Activate when all hell breaks loose and it will pin your location down, and send details to the rescue centre. They then contact the registered numbers, to try and establish if the activation is accidental or not. If not, then a chopper is usually dispatched to locate and assess the incident.
Not quite the same, but another option is Spot: http://au.findmespot.com/en/
Did a blog evaluating equipment here: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/entry.php/2290-Buying-stuff-you%E2%80%99ll-hopefully-never-need-%2829-09-2011%29
unstuck
13th February 2013, 10:02
Dont know about the North Island, but you can hire locator beacons down here.:niceone:
bosslady
13th February 2013, 11:15
Don't laugh... but I would want everything to match = Alpinestares whore.
Wonder which if these is the most suited to my needs, I'm thinking the cheaper of the two?
https://www.fc-moto.de/epages/fcm.sf/secc1665c01f0/?ObjectPath=/Shops/10207048/Products/Alpinestars-Stella-WR-V-Gore-Tex-Women-Glove/SubProducts/Alpinestars-Stella-WR-V-Gore-Tex-Women-Glove-0001
and
https://www.fc-moto.de/epages/fcm.sf/secc1665c01f0/?ObjectPath=/Shops/10207048/Products/Alpinestars-Stella-Radiant-Drystar-Glove/SubProducts/Alpinestars-Stella-Radiant-Drystar-Glove-0001
bosslady
13th February 2013, 11:19
I also wonder.. even though my gear is waterproof, perhaps it best investing in rain jackets/pants to put OVER my gear? Thoughts? Or is it overboard?
Also, thoughts on something such as a balaclava?
https://www.fc-moto.de/epages/fcm.sf/secc1665c01f0/?ObjectPath=/Shops/10207048/Products/Revit-Amazon-GTX-Balaclava/SubProducts/Revit-Amazon-GTX-Balaclava-0001
https://www.fc-moto.de/epages/fcm.sf/secc1665c01f0/?ObjectPath=/Shops/10207048/Products/Alpinestars-Touring-Winter-Balaclava
https://www.fc-moto.de/epages/fcm.sf/secc1665c01f0/?ObjectPath=/Shops/10207048/Products/Alpinestars-Winter-Balaclava
bosslady
13th February 2013, 11:41
Some options for boots, all waterproof. Would even consider using them straight away to replace the boots I have now which AINT waterproof!
https://www.fc-moto.de/epages/fcm.sf/secc1665c01f0/?ObjectPath=/Shops/10207048/Products/Alpinestars-Vika-Waterproof-Lady-Boot/SubProducts/Alpinestars-Vika-Waterproof-Lady-Boot-0001
https://www.fc-moto.de/epages/fcm.sf/secc1665c01f0/?ObjectPath=/Shops/10207048/Products/Alpinestars-Stella-Citta-Boot/SubProducts/Alpinestars-Stella-Citta-Boot-0001
https://www.fc-moto.de/epages/fcm.sf/secc1665c01f0/?ObjectPath=/Shops/10207048/Products/Alpinestars-Stella-Torre-Waterproof/SubProducts/Alpinestars-Stella-Torre-Waterproof-0001
https://www.fc-moto.de/epages/fcm.sf/secc1665c01f0/?ObjectPath=/Shops/10207048/Products/Alpinestars-Stella-Gran-Torino-Gore-Tex-Boot/SubProducts/Alpinestars-Stella-Gran-Torino-Gore-Tex-Boot-0001
https://www.fc-moto.de/epages/fcm.sf/secc1665c01f0/?ObjectPath=/Shops/10207048/Products/Alpinestars-Stella-Armada-WP/SubProducts/Alpinestars-Stella-Armada-WP-0008
Any thoughts on these options?
unstuck
13th February 2013, 12:06
I would get as much waterproof stuff as you can, especially if you get to the west coast. It really, really sucks being wet on a bike for long distances. And heated grips are just awesome down this far.:msn-wink:
Gremlin
13th February 2013, 12:44
I would get as much waterproof stuff as you can, especially if you get to the west coast. It really, really sucks being wet on a bike for long distances. And heated grips are just awesome down this far.:msn-wink:
I went for basic rain jacket on the outside (been discussed in a few threads already), and the outside of the main jacket is breathable for hot summer riding. DriRider's Thunderwave one works for me...
Maha
13th February 2013, 13:29
Whilst in the Hawkes Bay area...Waipawa to Dannevirke via Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateapokaiwhenuakit anatahu is a must do...
http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?saddr=Waipawa,+Hawke's+Bay&daddr=Porangahau+to:Weber,+Manawatu-Wanganui+to:Dannevirke,+Manawatu-Wanganui&hl=en&ll=-40.297858,176.485062&spn=0.412675,1.056747&sll=-40.275335,176.275291&sspn=0.206406,0.528374&geocode=FRWKnv0dRouGCinlPeXfAuFpbTFAFaNDYe8ABQ%3BF dMKmf0dB-OGCik7_KeB-UBCbTFQ-aJDYe8ABQ%3BFd6Gl_0dk0uCCimlBKj9kyZCbTHQKqNDYe8ABQ %3BFQeEmv0d3BN_CilJg0lzPO1BbTHwvqJDYe8ABQ&oq=danne&mra=ls&t=m&z=11
slofox
13th February 2013, 15:37
Whilst in the Hawkes Bay area...Waipawa to Dannevirke via Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateapokaiwhenuakit anatahu is a must do...
Dat's a good ride!
Maha
13th February 2013, 15:45
Dat's a good ride!
Very happy that we were taken that way a few years ago...ended up at Te Mata peak via Patangata and Middle road.
slofox
13th February 2013, 15:46
Very happy that we were taken that way a few years ago...ended up at Te Mata peak via Patangata and Middle road.
I did Route 52 a couple of years ago.
Maha
13th February 2013, 15:47
I did Route 52 a couple of years ago.
Think I remember that..you did the Gentle Annie road as well?
slofox
13th February 2013, 15:49
Think I remember that..you did the Gentle Annie road as well?
Gentle Annie was last year. Route 52 the year before.
No major ride this year due to financial penury...
neels
13th February 2013, 17:50
Also, thoughts on something such as a balaclava?
I have a silk balaclava for under my helmet, works really well at keeping things warm inside the helmet, cheap enough to pick up locally...
http://www.boydmotorcycles.co.nz/Store/ProductDetails.aspx?p=106995&t=1&c=71041
BigAl
13th February 2013, 17:57
Hey this looks good, good price too???
http://www.trademe.co.nz/jewellery-watches/mens-jewellery/necklaces/auction-561700534.htm
Only if your name is joe Williamson and you were born in 58:bleh:
Hit up all your mates to try and get a travelling buddy, much more fun with company imo.
FJRider
13th February 2013, 18:28
I also wonder.. even though my gear is waterproof, perhaps it best investing in rain jackets/pants to put OVER my gear? Thoughts? Or is it overboard?
Also, thoughts on something such as a balaclava?
A large set of waterproofs that can fit over your normal gear is a good idea. I used to do that ... with the large set taped/tied across the fork tubes just below the headlight. They were used. and DID come in handy on the REALLY shitty days. That is cold ... and/or wet days ... CHEAP health insurance really.
Most sports shops sell thermal balaclavas for about $10. Thin/warm .. and come down and can be tucked down your neck. Good for keeping bees/wasps off your neck too ... and keeps loose helmets snug fitting.
I wouldn't go far without mine. Saves your ears grief as you pull your helmet on too ... (less wind noise too)
bosslady
13th February 2013, 18:28
I have a silk balaclava for under my helmet, works really well at keeping things warm inside the helmet, cheap enough to pick up locally...
http://www.boydmotorcycles.co.nz/Store/ProductDetails.aspx?p=106995&t=1&c=71041
I just gave those links cause I've used that website, I won't necessarily order from abroad
bosslady
13th February 2013, 18:30
Only if your name is joe Williamson and you were born in 58:bleh:
Hit up all your mates to try and get a travelling buddy, much more fun with company imo.
I don't have many mates and the ones I do don't ride :(
Coldrider
13th February 2013, 18:53
Take a $100 waterproof oversuit, it takes the brunt of the rain off you, keeps your cordura dry and yourself do not lose as much heat. Also you can stop for a cuppa and not need a drainpipe from you to the door, as gortex gear weeps out water.
Stop all wind ( even down your neck/back), and with thermals and not too much else you should be toasty. if you have too many layers you will sweat and be cold. Down the West Coast of the SI you should not travel alone, three metres off the road and you are as good as off the planet.
In my experience of 19 Brass Monkeys from from june onwards a quarter off them have involved ICE, and some bike droppings (none mine), but it is all experience and character building, and would not miss the West Coast for anything.
Ocean1
13th February 2013, 18:59
Take a $100 waterproof oversuit, it takes the brunt of the rain off you, keeps your cordura dry and yourself do not lose as much heat.
Yup, RD1 had some bib overall rainsuits for about $85. Made form that rubberised nylon stuff, packs down small and takes the brunt of the wetstuff.
BMWST?
13th February 2013, 19:04
tell him he's dreamin.
heated grips are not a patch on a heated vest.
cold fingers and toes are a result of your body conserving it's heat in the cold and limiting the blood to those parts. when your core is warm it'll send plenty of warm blood to those parts and to warm your core use a heated jacket...
i rarely use mine and have travelled for two weeks from top to bottom of the SI early june and not switched it on but when you want to it's got many advantages over grips that for a starter usually end up being sold with your bike...
you right ..BUT if you have a limited power output heated grips are better than nothin
Coldrider
13th February 2013, 19:05
and sometimes it is like a summer run both ways, you can never tell till the day.
FJRider
13th February 2013, 19:26
Take a $100 waterproof oversuit, it takes the brunt of the rain off you, keeps your cordura dry and yourself do not lose as much heat. Also you can stop for a cuppa and not need a drainpipe from you to the door, as gortex gear weeps out water.
Stop all wind ( even down your neck/back), and with thermals and not too much else you should be toasty. if you have too many layers you will sweat and be cold. Down the West Coast of the SI you should not travel alone, three metres off the road and you are as good as off the planet.
In my experience of 19 Brass Monkeys from from june onwards a quarter off them have involved ICE, and some bike droppings (none mine), but it is all experience and character building, and would not miss the West Coast for anything.
The only snag with the one piece waterproof oversuit is "Pit-stops" ... if you think you might need to "go", start looking for a safe place to stop (go ???) ... because it is a lengthly process getting it off, and if its wet it wont be easy or quick. (Often involves taking boots off first)
There are plenty of places in the south island ... that "going off" by more than a few metres from the road, will have you missing for quite some time. Even on highway one.
FJRider
13th February 2013, 19:35
Yup, RD1 had some bib overall rainsuits for about $85. Made form that rubberised nylon stuff, packs down small and takes the brunt of the wetstuff.
I've found the bib-overall type pants better than waist type pants. They go right up under the armpit so the area "double covered is better (less drafts too) some have zips or elastic at the ankles to aid getting them over boots. (the better ones)
nadroj
13th February 2013, 19:36
The only snag with the one piece waterproof oversuit is "Pit-stops" ... if you think you might need to "go", start looking for a safe place to stop (go ???) ... because it is a lengthly process getting it off, and if its wet it wont be easy or quick. (Often involves taking boots off first)
There are plenty of places in the south island ... that "going off" by more than a few metres from the road, will have you missing for quite some time. Even on highway one.
Shewee.......
FJRider
13th February 2013, 19:47
and sometimes it is like a summer run both ways, you can never tell till the day.
On the really special days ... you get four seasons in a four hour ride,
FJRider
13th February 2013, 19:53
Shewee.......
Some girls prefer more than a marker post for cover while they wee ...
Dangsta
13th February 2013, 21:03
For long rides I really like my cramp buster throttle thing. Cheap as chips and lets me relax my grip a bit without losing any control.
bosslady
13th February 2013, 21:38
For long rides I really like my cramp buster throttle thing. Cheap as chips and lets me relax my grip a bit without losing any control.
never heard of it?
Gremlin
13th February 2013, 21:47
never heard of it?
Something like this: http://www.kuryakyn.com/Products/262/Universal-Throttle-Boss
Clamp around the handlebar, makes it easier to keep the throttle open with less grip on the bar.
Ocean1
14th February 2013, 07:20
I've found the bib-overall type pants better than waist type pants. They go right up under the armpit so the area "double covered is better (less drafts too) some have zips or elastic at the ankles to aid getting them over boots. (the better ones)
Yeah, they cover the more vulnerable jacket leak risks like the main zip and vents, they're fast to get on and pack down way small. I don't bother with the matching over-jacket, nonetheless carrying the bib-overalls allows me to tour with a lighter jacket than I otherwise would, in summer it's leather.
Of the dozen or so gloves I've owned exactly none have been waterproof, certainly not leather ones and some $400 Alpinestar winter gloves failed in less than an hour of west coast rain. I don't think anyone's mentioned those micky mouse three finger over-gloves, I've never got around to tracking them down but they're a good idea.
Ocean1
14th February 2013, 07:29
Something like this: http://www.kuryakyn.com/Products/262/Universal-Throttle-Boss
Clamp around the handlebar, makes it easier to keep the throttle open with less grip on the bar.
I've got a throttle rocker, (on the same site) but I've only used it on bikes with a particularly heavy throttle, and then only when actually touring because I found it intefered with quick, acurate control in a pinch. Easy enough to peel off and wrap on that you can fit it only when you feel the need, though.
Now that I've looked I see there's LH and RH throttle rocker options. Mine's a RH one, lives out on the end of the throttle tube. I wonder if a LH model might be a bit less in the way in a hurry, under the thumb, there...
Dangsta
14th February 2013, 07:31
never heard of it?
www.crampbuster.com
If you go onto eBay and look up "throttle rocker" you can pick one up for around $3. It'll be the best couple of bucks you can spend on yr bike.
D
GTRMAN
14th February 2013, 07:54
A good tool is Google Latitude, if you have a smartphone it can send your location periodically to whoever you have set as a contact. An upside is you can also use it to track your movements on google maps.
You can get waterproof socks from kiwi disposals (army surplus) http://www.kiwidisposals.co.nz/footwear/socks/549-waterproof-british-army-socks
They also have some awesome thermals that are used in Antarctica http://www.kiwidisposals.co.nz/thermals I have these and they are great, thick as sweatshirt material.
Once your gear gets wet it is the wind chill that will get you, so maybe look at a pair of these http://www.rain-off.com/Buy_Products.php they will keep you totally dry on your hands and cut the wind so you stay warm, heated grips are awesome but will not warm you up if your gloves are soaked.
If you can, try and practice by spending a day riding around in the rain, make sure your gear is up to the task.
Have an awesome time
thehovel
14th February 2013, 11:20
2 weeks only enough time to do north of Chch. It's 1,000km to get there from NS.Don't rush to get away to beat the on set of winter. Spring is quite dry south of the strait. I did 2 months on a trike starting in the 2nd week of Sept was dry until Oct. much better scenery when the mountains have snow on them. Wets on the outside is the best way to go,one piece or use braces to stop the cruch hanging around your knees.
This acts as an extra thermal layer.
I always wear gumboots.(famous for it) good thermal socks and the wets over thetop (NOT TUCKED IN ) Safety gumboots only cost $50 from Any safety shop or RD1.
Take your time and enjoy yourself Regards Richard
bosslady
14th February 2013, 11:32
2 weeks only enough time to do north of Chch. It's 1,000km to get there from NS.Don't rush to get away to beat the on set of winter. Spring is quite dry south of the strait. I did 2 months on a trike starting in the 2nd week of Sept was dry until Oct. much better scenery when the mountains have snow on them. Wets on the outside is the best way to go,one piece or use braces to stop the cruch hanging around your knees.
This acts as an extra thermal layer.
I always wear gumboots.(famous for it) good thermal socks and the wets over thetop (NOT TUCKED IN ) Safety gumboots only cost $50 from Any safety shop or RD1.
Take your time and enjoy yourself Regards Richard
Unfortunately I am limited as to when I can take it, hence my May/June, not trying to beat winter, that's just about when I'll be able to take leave.
FJRider
14th February 2013, 16:54
Unfortunately I am limited as to when I can take it, hence my May/June, not trying to beat winter, that's just about when I'll be able to take leave.
Even on the GN ... taking your time. You can be in the South island on the second day after leaving Auckland. (early evening sailing with a cabin/backpacker bed booked in Picton.)
400-500 km days ... you cover the turf pretty quickly. You wont see everything .... So don't try. It will be there on the next trip on a bigger bike.
Leave most of the north island for the shorter breaks ... (and no ferry either way needed) and if you allow at least the last four days in the north island ... plenty of time for quick family visits.
If your start time is about 8.30-9 am ... with a finish about 4 pm. With a moving average of about 75 km/hr ... a 500 km day is possible. Even with a quite a few stops for the been there/done that photos ...
The big question is what you want to spend the money on. And money in reserve for unforeseen problems. The big three to budget for is Fuel/Accommodation/Food. Followed closely by "spending money" ... the non urgent but necessary to enjoy the holiday stuff. (beer/wine/Good coffee/souvenirs etc)
You need to eat well to stay alert and fit to ride. Fuel ... totally dependent on how far you want to travel. Accommodation is the wild card. Family/friends (KBr's ??)/Backpackers/tent are the budget options ... but a budgeted Motel stop in a real bed with your own shower mid trip ... will refresh mind AND body.
And start the trip with a fresh set of tyres.
Scouse
14th February 2013, 17:00
Hi All, I have never had any more than a few days off in a row since I started working with the company I'm with now
I was wondering if any body could offer any (helpful, constructive) advice on anything from routes,Some say that I am a good Route
bosslady
14th February 2013, 17:49
Some say that I am a good Route
some but not many and certainly not all, aye?
Maha
14th February 2013, 18:07
Some say that I am a good Route
Only when you're pissed.
FJRider
14th February 2013, 18:11
Some say that I am a good Route
You'll be more the adventure route. That what all the signs point to ... :bleh:
_Shrek_
14th February 2013, 18:16
.I was wondering if any body could offer any (helpful, constructive) advice on anything from routes, sightseeing/attractions, accommodation, eateries, bike gear i.e. clothing, equipment i.e. gps???, anything I should do to/add to my bike or even any consumables or comforts I should/could take with me. I really want to plan this as well as I can so as to have as little (inconvenient, stressful, annoying) mishaps or surprises as possible. I also want to have a blast and meet new people if I can and the other reason for planning so far in advance of course is I need to save! I know May/June isn't exactly summer, but I will have to take what I can get...
as you have textile already just add a one piece (dryrider) works ok, water proof boots & gloves, ice breaker thermals are great under bike gear & not a bad price
off the ferry, Queen Charlotte drive to Havelock, SHW 6 to Nelson, then SWH 6 all the way down through Buller gorge, Greymouth, Hasst Pass, Wanaka, then over the Crown range then back onto SHW 6 either turn right & head to Arrow town then Queens town & head further south from there or right & head to Central via Cromwell, Alexandra ... etc
a when you're heading back up there are lots of options hope it's a help
as for accom there are heaps of KBers that would put you up along the way, that encludes mrs S & myself & others we know,
have a blast with what ever you decide
thehovel
16th February 2013, 20:06
Do Queen Charlotte Dr towards Picton as the viewing spots are on the water side of the road at a tight BLIND corner and you are not alowed to cross the road. Drive to Havelock and drive back toward Picton for about 10km Then drive back to Havelock, brunch at the Mussel Pot magic. regards Richard
Grashopper
18th February 2013, 10:20
Just so you can get a feel for the distances. This is the trip I did by car in 1 week over christmas: https://maps.google.co.nz/maps?saddr=Taupo,+Waikato,+Neuseeland&daddr=Wellington+to:Picton,+Marlborough+to:Hanmer+ Springs+to:Arthurs+Pass+Visitor+Centre,+West+Coast +Road,+Arthur%27s+Pass+to:Murchison,+Tasman+to:Pic ton,+Marlborough+to:Palmerston+north&hl=en&ll=-41.054502,173.71582&spn=6.577117,9.371338&sll=-40.717237,174.424382&sspn=6.610973,9.371338&geocode=FQS0sf0dQp5-CilbFksUd-9rbTHgCaNDYe8ABQ%3BFcQEiv0drN9qCinLdOlJ_LE4bTFwtBO iY-8ACg%3BFZ_0if0dbAtfCikFONSk6iY5bTFgoXmEhu8ABQ%3BFd 0Zd_0dmShNCilHWVRveWMwbTHwc3mEhu8ABQ%3BFVzMcP0dYNI 5CiHVpk3oJ69HXSmFMM7xqFoubTHVpk3oJ69HXQ%3BFQ4ugv0d dJpFCinTuTVnB846bTGwkXmEhu8ABQ%3BFZ_0if0dbAtfCikFO NSk6iY5bTFgoXmEhu8ABQ%3BFc5FmP0dlpF3CimDRKO9n61BbT EVmaJDYe8ABQ&t=h&mra=ls&z=7
I stayed overnight in Picton, Hanmer (2 nights), Arthurs Pass (2 nights), Murchison (because I didn't want to go straight through to Picton), Palmy. It was pretty much always daytrips for me because I like to stop at every viewpoint :)
With 2 weeks you can see quite a lot. But don't overdo it. You don't want to come back home and not be able to remember the wonderful places you've been to because you were just rushing through. Stay at least 2 nights at interesting places and do daytrips from there. Or go hiking or whatever. If you come across Hokitika you need to go and see Hokitika Gorge. It is so beautiful there. About 30 min away from Hokitika, but a well signed country road with just about a few hundret meters of gravel at the end.
And go to Nelson and Golden Bay. Stop at the Abel Tasman National Park, maybe do some kayaking there for a change. Although it is winter, so maybe not. Golden Bay has one of the most beautiful beaches ever. Wharariki Beach https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=wharariki+beach&hl=en&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=W1UhUaKDCo6RkgX78ICoCA&sqi=2&ved=0CDUQsAQ&biw=1234&bih=897, deep white sand and a big rock arch. But it is 20 minutes or so on the gravel road to get there.
From Nelson you can go south via the Nelson Lakes, it's beautiful there, and go to Hanmer Springs or the west coast. In country roads are much more windy than the coastal roads and try to avoid the east coast roads they are pretty boring. Although whale watching in Kaikoura is pretty amazing. (And I've heard the crayfish, too, for eating, not watching...:cool: )
Arthurs Pass village, nice road, but aside of getting petrol there is not much going on in the village. Unless you want to go hiking. There are some days 1.5 or so hour hikes up to several day trips you can do there. But other than that, don't bother staying there if you don't have to.
bosslady
18th February 2013, 13:40
I am still reading this thread btw for people who have commented but haven't had the time to respond cause I've been away/my tablet takes an eon to send messages with cause it's hard to edit. Will update my first post when I get my hands on a computer.
nerrrd
18th February 2013, 23:26
Just noticed this thread, crikey, you don't do things by halves, do you!
A couple of things which may or may not have been mentioned (sorry bit of a skim-read):
A pinlock insert for your visor - means you can keep visor down regardless of weather conditions (rain/cold) and still see where you're going without fogging up.
Groovy weather-protection handguards like mine (barkbusters storm) might be a good non-powered option for cold/wet gloves and hands? Can't vouch for how well these work as it basically hasn't rained since I put mine on, but I'm told they can make a big difference. (Actually I've got another set of "universal-fitting" handguards I got off Trademe which didn't fit my bike which I'd be happy to see the back of if you wanted to try some...may not fit your's either though...)
Something called "bone-dry", which you put on leather stuff to help waterproof it. I got some of this for my cheap boots and gloves (again it hasn't rained since I put it on, so can't comment on effectiveness yet).
Basically would agree that waterproof things that go over the top of your other gear are the best option for staying dry in proper rain (unless your gear is high end stuff with gore-tex liners maybe).
Sounds like it could be an awesome trip! I'd love to tour the SI one day...
sinfull
19th February 2013, 06:26
^^^^^^^^^^
That nerrrd makes good sense, gloves will last ten times as long in the rain with bark busters on, pin locks are a must, as is a full wet suit (just get one that clips at the ankle so ya can A/ get em on over ya boots and B/ clip tight to stop as much osmosis as possible from happening, a roll of tape is a must as are bread bags for over ya socks !) in case you're forced to travel in torrential for an hour or more cause it will get in ! Once it's wet, it could take days to dry out !
Are you tied in to the day you have to leave, or can you have it floating through those two months ?
Be nice to be able to watch the weather patterns and say "right i'm off next week" Watch the moon phases and what the weather is doing down south for a few months and you'll see what i mean !
As for where down south, again watch the weather patterns and pick a side ! West is best in my opinion, but it can be horrid if the weather is pounding that side !
Personal locator beacon ___Yes
KB contacts for emergencies ___Yes (my number and recovery vehicle available for the lower north if required)
AA plus ____Yes , for around 150 notes it gives ya the reasurence of pick up/delivery even a motel on them in emergencies !
Perhaps even courier a couple of parcels around the country with ya girly bits/dry gear which aint hard to courier on overnight to the next planned stop if it aint needed (so you can have the kitchen sink with ya and not have to carry it)
The rest is a gimme, enjoy !
bosslady
19th February 2013, 07:00
* Can I get a charger for my phone to attach to my bike?
* Should I take some kind of jump start battery/charger/thingy whatsit?
* Also any idea on snacks/food/beverages and how to carry these things i.e. water?
:)
_Shrek_
19th February 2013, 07:06
Something called "bone-dry", which you put on leather stuff to help waterproof it. I got some of this for my cheap boots and gloves (again it hasn't rained since I put it on, so can't comment on effectiveness yet).
"bone-dry" this works realy well, "But" don't put it onya gloves or boots if they have goretex in them,
Why!!! it turns them into gumboots, & they do not breath when it's hot, so start to smell realy bad
did this with my last pair of gloves :facepalm:
bosslady
19th February 2013, 07:09
as for accom there are heaps of KBers that would put you up along the way, that encludes mrs S & myself & others we know
That's very kind of you :) What part of the SI are you in? I will have to put you on my list haha
sinfull
19th February 2013, 07:12
* Can I get a charger for my phone to attach to my bike?
* Should I take some kind of jump start battery/charger/thingy whatsit?
* Also any idea on snacks/food/beverages and how to carry these things i.e. water?
:)
Yes Dick smith for usb male end for ciggy lighter adaption
No
Backpac (http://www.camelbak.com/en/International/Sports-Recreation.aspx) and pockets for high energy snacks or just a water bottle in ya bag lol
bosslady
19th February 2013, 07:14
And go to Nelson and Golden Bay. Stop at the Abel Tasman National Park, maybe do some kayaking there for a change. Although it is winter, so maybe not. Golden Bay has one of the most beautiful beaches ever. Wharariki Beach https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=wharariki+beach&hl=en&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=W1UhUaKDCo6RkgX78ICoCA&sqi=2&ved=0CDUQsAQ&biw=1234&bih=897, deep white sand and a big rock arch. But it is 20 minutes or so on the gravel road to get there.
Damn that beach looks beautiful!
bosslady
19th February 2013, 07:18
Just noticed this thread, crikey, you don't do things by halves, do you!
Already you know me so well... lol
A couple of things which may or may not have been mentioned (sorry bit of a skim-read):
A pinlock insert for your visor - means you can keep visor down regardless of weather conditions (rain/cold) and still see where you're going without fogging up.
What is this exactly and where do I get it?
Groovy weather-protection handguards like mine (barkbusters storm) might be a good non-powered option for cold/wet gloves and hands? Can't vouch for how well these work as it basically hasn't rained since I put mine on, but I'm told they can make a big difference. (Actually I've got another set of "universal-fitting" handguards I got off Trademe which didn't fit my bike which I'd be happy to see the back of if you wanted to try some...may not fit your's either though...)
Don't suppose you have a link to this so I can have a gander? :)
Something called "bone-dry", which you put on leather stuff to help waterproof it. I got some of this for my cheap boots and gloves (again it hasn't rained since I put it on, so can't comment on effectiveness yet).
This actually sounds great! I could use it for the boots I have now they're terrible for wet weather!
bosslady
19th February 2013, 07:22
Are you tied in to the day you have to leave, or can you have it floating through those two months ?
Be nice to be able to watch the weather patterns and say "right i'm off next week" Watch the moon phases and what the weather is doing down south for a few months and you'll see what i mean !
I haven't booked my annual leave yet, but once I do yup, I will be locked in. I will have to book it and prepare at least a month in advance.
Personal locator beacon ___Yes
I might have someone that will come with me now so wondering if that's really necessary? Also might look into the app someone mentioned where it will text my location to someone every so often.
KB contacts for emergencies ___Yes (my number and recovery vehicle available for the lower north if required)
Oh how do I get this?
AA plus ____Yes , for around 150 notes it gives ya the reasurence of pick up/delivery even a motel on them in emergencies !
I already have Roadside Assistance but it isn't the extensive package, I am going to see about getting it upgraded.
Perhaps even courier a couple of parcels around the country with ya girly bits/dry gear which aint hard to courier on overnight to the next planned stop if it aint needed (so you can have the kitchen sink with ya and not have to carry it)
I guess I could do this in terms of couriering dirty shit HOME. Dunno... will have to think on it...
bosslady
19th February 2013, 07:23
Yes Dick smith for usb male end for ciggy lighter adaption
No
Backpac (http://www.camelbak.com/en/International/Sports-Recreation.aspx) and pockets for high energy snacks or just a water bottle in ya bag lol
How would I do this for my bike though?? No ciggy lighter on my bike.. clearly LOL
As for the battery thing.. I just worry in the cold weather I wonder if my bike will be hard to start?
sinfull
19th February 2013, 07:35
Oh how do I get this?
Keep this thread alive and they'll come, ya have one for the lower north now and from the times i've Met Shrek, he'll be good for his area or know of someone !
There is a section on here where everyone who could, have posted contact numbers etc
How would I do this for my bike though?? No ciggy lighter on my bike.. clearly LOL You can buy the female lighter addaption at super cheap or the like, also a crimping tool kit with the correct fittings to connect to your battery, an inline fuse is a good idea ! Or ask for help setting it up on yr bike !
Me, i have it so it just has two plug in fittings coming off my battery (well insulated) so i just pull them out from under my seat attach the lighter female plug into em and plug my phone in, when i've stopped !
As for the battery thing.. I just worry in the cold weather I wonder if my bike will be hard to start?
So long as your charging system is working, your 250 should be easy to bump start if you flatten your battery (you should replace it if it's tired and giving problems before your trip)
sinfull
19th February 2013, 07:40
Oh how do I get this?
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/4385-Members-offering-help?highlight=breakdown+contact
_Shrek_
19th February 2013, 17:13
That's very kind of you :) What part of the SI are you in? I will have to put you on my list haha
pm sent....
nerrrd
19th February 2013, 17:25
Already you know me so well... lol
What is this exactly and where do I get it?
It's a plastic insert for your visor that kind-of makes it "double-glazed" - googled and found this http://www.pinlock.nl/en/. There's 2 kinds, the better kind IMHO which clips on to your visor (so your visor has to have the clips installed already or you might need to get a new one with clips - not always available for every type of helmet and can be pricey, but worth it) or the stick on kind, which I've also tried but can be a delicate operation getting them to stick right first time (was for me - ruined at least one...) see http://www.motomail.co.nz/estore/style/rjfogflm.aspx or possibly better http://www.motomail.co.nz/estore/style/fvlensad.aspx.
Don't suppose you have a link to this so I can have a gander? :)
Don't know how to do pics here but they're basically the same as these: http://www.barkbusters.net/products/storm.html, except a cheap knock-off version with fake carbon-fibre plastics (awesome!). You'll need a bit of spare space on the inside of the handlebar controls for the brackets; they stick out a fair way to the front and may interfere with your fairing when on full lock - wait, this won't happen 'cos your fairing's already mounted on your handlebars anyway. There are probably cooler looking better engineered versions out there but you can have these for real cheap (like nothing) if you want to give them a try.
This actually sounds great! I could use it for the boots I have now they're terrible for wet weather!
Here's the link I think www.bonedrynz.com (wasn't working when I tried it just now). Saw ads for it in various magazines. The actual stuff is a bit like a jar of honey...uh oh, bees!!:shit::shit:
FJRider
19th February 2013, 17:31
* Can I get a charger for my phone to attach to my bike?
* Should I take some kind of jump start battery/charger/thingy whatsit?
* Also any idea on snacks/food/beverages and how to carry these things i.e. water?
:)
An Auto electrician can make up a ciggie lighter (female) with a bit of lead. Just clips on to the bike battery. More secure methods can be used if you want to charge it as you ride.
While you are at the the Auto electrician ... get him to test your battery. If he gives it the thumbs up ... you should be fine. (just don't leave the bike parked with the lights on)
Snack/drinks etc ... in a tank bag.
ducatilover
19th February 2013, 17:57
Pop in for a cuppa if you go through the Wairarapa :niceone: I can fit a huge motor to your GN while you're admiring my bikes, or possibly go for a ride? (my bike might get dirty though!)
You don't need a jump starter, just roll start it, GNs are easy to push. Had to do it to mine a few times
haydes55
20th February 2013, 16:44
Solved several issues for you. Sell your bike and buy THIS ONE (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-564722850.htm). Check out those sexy hand warmers! The windshield off a van and XL gear to put over top of all your current gear. :lol:
Zapf
3rd March 2013, 17:08
* Can I get a charger for my phone to attach to my bike?
* Should I take some kind of jump start battery/charger/thingy whatsit?
* Also any idea on snacks/food/beverages and how to carry these things i.e. water?
:)
Charge your phone at where you are staying.
Water etc get a camelpak
** Do you have a small screen for your GN? reduces sore necks
kiwi cowboy
4th March 2013, 22:02
Hi All, I have never had any more than a few days off in a row since I started working with the company I'm with now :violin: (3 years) and once my asst. is trained up, I will be strongly encouraged (read, forced) to take at least 1-2 weeks annual leave. And to be honest, I don't forsee the opportunity for such a long break reappearing for at least another year, maybe more SO I would like to make the very most of what I can get.
I am in my mid 20's and ashamedly have seen very little of NZ. I think the furthest north I've been is Mangawhai (maybe?) and the furthest south of the country I've been is Wellington, once, a couple years ago. I've never even been to the South Island... Therefore I thought I am getting a rare break from work, I have a new found hobby/love, I really want to see more of our country (it's embarrassing that I've spent bugger all time outside of Auckland!) and if I don't plan something I know that I will just stay home and watch day time tv the WHOLE time.
I was wondering if any body could offer any (helpful, constructive) advice on anything from routes, sightseeing/attractions, accommodation, eateries, bike gear i.e. clothing, equipment i.e. gps???, anything I should do to/add to my bike or even any consumables or comforts I should/could take with me. I really want to plan this as well as I can so as to have as little (inconvenient, stressful, annoying) mishaps or surprises as possible. I also want to have a blast and meet new people if I can and the other reason for planning so far in advance of course is I need to save! I know May/June isn't exactly summer, but I will have to take what I can get...
Just to throw in here quickly - I want to make sure I visit some family I haven't seen for quite a few years (and hey, not going to lie I'll prob stay with them a night or two as well to save on accom!). I have family in Hastings, Waipawa and Palmerston North so stops there are a must. I also have an Aunt that I think is still in Christchurch and a girlfriend there I'd like to visit too. Also clearly I will be travelling on my own... unless anyone wants to come with but I doubt it, lol.
Please help!
So here's what I have so far in the way of suggestions/tips/advice...
POSSIBLE ROUTES/ATTRACTIONS:
* http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?saddr=Waipawa,+Hawke's+Bay&daddr=Porangahau+to:Weber,+Manawatu-Wanganui+to:Dannevirke,+Manawatu-Wanganui&hl=en&ll=-40.297858,176.485062&spn=0.412675,1.056747&sll=-40.275335,176.275291&sspn=0.206406,0.528374&geocode=FRWKnv0dRouGCinlPeXfAuFpbTFAFaNDYe8ABQ%3BF dMKmf0dB-OGCik7_KeB-UBCbTFQ-aJDYe8ABQ%3BFd6Gl_0dk0uCCimlBKj9kyZCbTHQKqNDYe8ABQ %3BFQeEmv0d3BN_CilJg0lzPO1BbTHwvqJDYe8ABQ&oq=danne&mra=ls&t=m&z=11
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*
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* Need to use my motorcycle atlas and write down a list of things/sights I want to see/visit
ACCOMMODATION
* Get a copy of Jasons.co.nz so that I can look at some places to stay
* Grease up to some KBr's so that I can bunk at theirs, must still aquire said list!
* Friend in Taupo if needed (thanks Grashopper, haha)
* Family in Hastings
* Family in Waipawa
* Famly in Palmerston
GEAR I MAY NEED
* Textile waterproof jacket with a liner TICK
* Textile waterproof pants with a liner TICK Although I am considering if perhaps I should go up a size in pants because I struggle as it is with mine, fit well but my legs are long so they don't go down as far as I'd like. and I'd like to get some more layers under there
* Get some waterproof gloves Tried these on at Cyclespot Honda http://www.revzilla.com/product/alpinestars-365-gore-tex-gloves think I might get them when I have the $$
* Get some waterproof boots Still not 100% sure about this
* Tent?
* Thermals (merino perhaps?) (How many different sets of thermals though I wonder?)
* Get some waterproof/touring socks (how many pairs????)
* Do up an itinerary
* Locator beacon? Going with someone possibly now so not entirely sure this is necessary?
* High Visibility Vest just in case.. TICK
* Pocket warmers?
* Balaclava
* Rain Jacket/Pants
* Topbox
* Can I get a charger for my phone to attach to my bike?
* Should I take some kind of jump start battery?
* New Tyres
OTHER STUFF
* I definitely don't want to travel any more than 300-400km MAX so I don't spend my whole tripe riding
* Possibly stay 2 nights at each stop (in the SI anyway) so I can do some proper looking around and such?
* I want at least two thirds of my trip in the SI
* Cut off time for riding each day is 4pm(ish). I can't ride between 10pm and 5pm because of my license restrictions - but I don't want to ride in the dark any way....
* I have roadside assistance but just checked and it's SUPER basic. I emailed last week and asked how much it would cost to upgrade to the extensive or whatever package
* Do up an itinerary
* Need to read the ferry thread re: tying down my bike
* Look into Google Latitude App for my smartphone
Hi bosslady,
Havent read the rest of the thread but if your in the alexandra area on queens birthday weekend there is the brass monkey rally on on the saterday the first of june and would probably be a good place to meet a few KB crew.
I will be there working but if it suited you could stay here and come down with us and you could mingle for the night untill we finish around 12pm'ish and you could then come home to a warm bed at our house.
Let us know anyway>
Cheers KC
bosslady
5th March 2013, 07:32
Thanks - I will keep that in mind!
Definitely need to do this on the cheap, as much as possible, lol. Haven't started saving yet but better get on to it!
bosslady
23rd March 2013, 16:45
An update, I am probably going to do this next summer now I.e. end of the year. Don't know if I have the finances and today my aunty said shed shout me a trip to Tasmania so I definitely want to take her up on that! This info will still mostly be relevant though so I'll just have to push it out some months!
Maha
24th March 2013, 05:41
An update, I am probably going to do this next summer now I.e. end of the year. Don't know if I have the finances and today my aunty said shed shout me a trip to Tasmania so I definitely want to take her up on that! This info will still mostly be relevant though so I'll just have to push it out some months!
You aunty said shed?...is that a swear word within your family or a place to keep garden tools like the rest of us?
bosslady
24th March 2013, 08:25
You aunty said shed?...is that a swear word within your family or a place to keep garden tools like the rest of us?
predictive text don't always get it right
thehovel
24th March 2013, 11:35
Thanks - I will keep that in mind!
Definitely need to do this on the cheap, as much as possible, lol. Haven't started saving yet but better get on to it!
Cost to tour is about $100 -$110 a DAY. This includes gas,food&campsites. Word of warning most of the camp grounds charge double for a tent site. The way to beat this is go with a friend,two tents fit on one site..The site is the same for one as two,after that you are charged singly for extra people. If you go alone it is as cheep to backpack but you will have to book before you leave and this will nail you to a schedule. At peek holiday time it is all booked up. The advantage of tenting is you can plan day by day. I have never not got a tent site even at the top of the rush. Costs rise suddenly if you have to use a motel.
Maha
24th March 2013, 11:51
predictive text don't always get it right
predictive text doesn't always get it right...
bosslady
24th March 2013, 11:59
predictive text doesn't always get it right...
that was on purpose but thanks for the grammar check
FJRider
24th March 2013, 11:59
An update, I am probably going to do this next summer now I.e. end of the year.
In summer ... less clothes need to be worn/carried. In the south island in summer ... the temperature is often above 10 degrees even ... :yes:
(it got to 15 deg once)
bluninja
24th March 2013, 12:46
An update, I am probably going to do this next summer now I.e. end of the year. Don't know if I have the finances !
By then you'll have your restricted...then you'll need finances to buy a LAMS bike, and will put it off another year......then something else unexpected could come along....perhaps create your dream bike holiday and then start saving for it. I had things planned....but I become a grandad (all being well) later this year so my finances may be diverted.....to hiring a hitman :)
kiwi cowboy
24th March 2013, 13:35
In summer ... less clothes need to be worn/carried. In the south island in summer ... the temperature is often above 10 degrees even ... :yes:
(it got to 15 deg once)
Your bloody temp guage is broke mate only 15????????????????????? take it out of the fridge.:innocent:
kiwi cowboy
24th March 2013, 13:37
[QUOTE=bluninja;1130520424]By then you'll have your restricted...then you'll need finances to buy a LAMS bike, and will put it off another year......then something else unexpected could come along
Took me and my brother 26 years to finaly do our trip around the south island but wont be able to let it be 26 more till the norf island or i will be rideing it on a zimmer frame:Punk:
bosslady
24th March 2013, 13:45
I have two kids so saving isn't easy eh I already took out a loan for current gear and bike! plus I'm not able to take that much time off that often throughout the year. Were almost a third through the year already anyway next summer isn't that far away and id rather take up a free trip to tasmania to see old rellies before they die... Lol
nerrrd
27th March 2013, 06:35
Hey lucky you on the free trip! On the savings front, I feel slightly guilty that I owe you beer credits...
bosslady
27th March 2013, 09:55
Hey lucky you on the free trip! On the savings front, I feel slightly guilty that I owe you beer credits...
Haha don't be silly
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