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Verzent
13th February 2013, 23:01
Hey I'm looking at ordering a HID kit from DDM tuning http://www.ddmtuning.com/product.php?II=101
A lot of great reviews on them and are highly recommended, although they are $30 USD, shipping is $45 USD + 8 dollars for each additional one ordered. So is anyone else interested in ordering a set for their bikes? If we order together and split the shipping cost then it will work out a lot cheaper for us :) They have a lifetime warranty so that indicates a high level of quality (also from reviews on them).

I havent posted much on here as I lurk, but if you feel more comfortable if someone else with a high post count and reputation handles the payments then I'd completely endorse that.
Can also post up my trademe account and GP forums account with 700 posts.

Xsannz
14th February 2013, 10:40
Id be keen.

However not to be a stickler but i will point out.

Ltsa rules and wof code states that hid fitment to projector style headlight.

Which are any type that are not hid by defaukt are illegal and will fail wof.

Check the ltsa site and search hid if your unsure.

Edit: link here

High intensity discharge (HID) conversion kits

HID conversion kits (an HID bulb with a high voltage power unit or ‘ballast’ which fits into the original headlamp unit in place of the original bulb with no change to the headlamp lens, reflector or housing) are illegal on any vehicle being used on New Zealand roads.However, a complete halogen headlamp unit can be replaced with a complete HID headlamp unit provided that the replacement headlamp unit complies with approved standards. If in doubt, get advice from a vehicle lighting retailer you trust.

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/get-your-lights-right/get-your-lights-right.html

bogan
14th February 2013, 10:52
Find some pictures of them facing a wall on both full and dip beam. My bet is the beam pattern will be all on the piss, thats why they are illegal unless used with a proper housing and lens.

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/product_info.php?products_id=927

That is what I have, and though I'm yet to properly fit them, they look amazing when I've tested them.

Xsannz
14th February 2013, 17:06
what are you fitting them too?

Verzent
14th February 2013, 17:50
Yeah I've seen the ltsa rules.. Though ill line them up on a wall and adjust them so that they're not too high up. May also order in a HID housing.

Just need one more and then it'll only work out to be $62 NZD shipped to my house in Auckland, then I could ride out and drop them off to you if you live nearby or ship them.

ducatilover
14th February 2013, 20:13
Yeah I've seen the ltsa rules.. Though ill line them up on a wall and adjust them so that they're not too high up. May also order in a HID housing.

Just need one more and then it'll only work out to be $62 NZD shipped to my house in Auckland, then I could ride out and drop them off to you if you live nearby or ship them.

Bogan is saying that with cheap HID kits, and projectors, they are generally utter crap, you get a big fat spread of poorly focused light :(

Verzent
14th February 2013, 20:40
Ive read that these are quite good.

ducatilover
14th February 2013, 20:53
Would you do a review when you get yours? If you have happened upon a good and cheap kit, I'll be very interested.

Marmoot
14th February 2013, 22:18
I have one of those.
Not disappointed, with good beam pattern. But it just happened to work in my case. No guarantee for others.

Verzent
14th February 2013, 22:42
Thanks Marmoot. Do a google search on them and you wont be disappointed. Ive read that these have a great beam pattern. I would never touch any other hid brand kit.

bogan
14th February 2013, 22:52
Bogan is saying that with cheap HID kits, and projectors, they are generally utter crap, you get a big fat spread of poorly focused light :(

Yeh its just the inherent differences in technology, the arc lamps have a larger source of light than a filament bulb, so you need different optics to get a good beam pattern. Even if it the sources did line up, with a standard reflector they (in my experience) are suited to lower light outputs, so concentrate the light in the center, which mean you might get heaps of light, but its directed at the center, so not nearly as good as it could be with the proper lens setup.

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I think if the OP wants decent numbers for a group buy, he should post up some links explaining how others have fitted them, and the beam patterns that resulted.

Verzent
14th February 2013, 23:19
Great suggestion Bogan

Here are some reviews and recommendations on them
http://www.custommagnums.com/forums...-currently.html
http://www.gencoupe.com/exterior-20...y-hid-kits.html

Here is a guy who fitted the 55w in his yamaha R1. Although I think 55w is far too bright and 35w is the best for us.
http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=298212
Also vouches for their quality :)

Heres an install that a guy did with these
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMRhPEvIkXk

A fitment in a Honda 1000rr
http://www.1000rr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=65212
Just installed DDM Tuning HID kit on my '05 CBR. I got the 55W 5000k H7 replacement. VERY EASY to install, hardest part was deciding where to hide the wire harness and ballast. One thing though, the plastic spacer that the spring clip pushes against to hold the bulb still may need to be ground/sanded down around the edges to make it fit. Other than that there was no major mods needed when doing the install. Instructions from DDM weren't the greatest so just check out the posts here for install tips.


"I installed a DDM HID kit on my old bike. It was really easy to do and made a world of difference.

From what I remember they just have the universal kits for bikes, but I got the 35W 8,000K single light kit from their website. Didn't bother with the high beam because the low was plenty bright and the separate light takes too long to heat up. They also should still have the light chart on their site that shows what the different colors are for the temp ranges.

I chose the 35W because I didn't want to run the risk of possibly overheating and potentially melting the headlight cover with the 55W system. But I could be just overreacting. Someone else here might have used the 55W without issues. "


http://www.kawiforums.com/two-wheeled-discussion/171984-ddm-tuning-hid-kits-quality.html
i just got my slim ballast motorcycle 55 watt 5000k kit today and its absolutley amazing, by far the best kit i have ever owned and ive tried at least four different companies.

Heres also a truthful install video, showing that if you need to extend the wires:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9u4UVeB-ZI

And a basic unboxing video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJvlKe73WiU

bogan
14th February 2013, 23:45
The only thing out of that lot that showed a beam pattern was the second to last youtube (the other sites were login only mostly), and it was pretty much as bad as I expected. Too much light in the center, not enough at the edges, sure you get more light overall, but without fixing the lens/projector, you're only doing half the job.

This is what a proper beam pattern looks like:
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Verzent
15th February 2013, 00:24
Oops sorry, read over the beam pattern part

Its hard to find some videos for motorbikes, there are a lot more for cars.
Heres one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHPrCUyKjNk

Im not saying that it'll work for them all, it does depend on your projector casing and there is that risk where you might not be able to use them, but then it could also provide a good beam pattern. So it is wise to do some research on your bikes headlight and find some HID conversions online. I don't agree with striking them off without giving them a try, especially with these reviews and the reasonable price.

When I buy them, I'll make a youtube video showing the beam pattern on my ninja ex250 to show you all. I may just retrofit a hid projector from a car inside the casing if it isn't up to standard.

ducatilover
15th February 2013, 00:44
If you're retro fitting, don't use an R32/Z32 Nissan unit, or Toyota Soarer (UZZ/JZZ series). I'd suggest looking for one from a BMW E46 3 series as they've got a decent lens in them, if you set it up sorrectly you'll be away laughing

Reason for saying is the Z32 etc units are cheap as chips, but they're no good

Verzent
15th February 2013, 02:13
Ended up placing an order for 2 sets, I'll fit one in my bike and sell the other one. Will use my bike for the good of kiwibiker and provide a proper review to see if these claims are true.

There are also these projectors from ebay for $53 USD http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2-5-MOTORCYCLE-BI-XENON-HID-KIT-Angel-Eye-Devil-Eye-Headlight-Projector-Lens-/160764009143?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item256e481ab7
But no idea on the quality of the lens.

Thanks ducatilover, those e46 lens look mint! I just need one as I think I'll only fit the low beam HID

Marmoot
16th February 2013, 21:59
what kind of headlight is it installed in?

Ducati 848 stock projector. Just happened to work without having bad beam spread or crisscross star pattern.
Apparently not everyone is as lucky, although most Ducati 848/1x98 owners reported good results.

Bulb form is H11