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rossirep
14th February 2013, 17:32
ok everyone on here is a bike nut, so how often to you clean your bike??
Karl08
14th February 2013, 17:34
When it's dirty:lol:
rossirep
14th February 2013, 17:40
When it's dirty:lol:
yeah fair enough makes sense really. but is that filthy dirty or just alil dirty dirty??
ducatilover
14th February 2013, 17:42
Only every time I go near it. Or ride it (that's a rare thing, because it'd get dirty if I ride it)
MD
14th February 2013, 17:45
Each morning. Then of course there's elevenses clean before the mid day apres lunch clean. Apart from that and the evening clean I don't bother until the next day.
I'm just pleased I don't suffer from obsessive complusive disorder.
TIP: If you listen to the silence carefully enough you can detect dust molecules landing on your bike from 20 metres away.
FJRider
14th February 2013, 17:48
Only every time I go near it. Or ride it (that's a rare thing, because it'd get dirty if I ride it)
Our roads are clean. My bike doesn't get dirty.
Should it get dirty ... I ride in the rain. (or pay a kid to clean it)
bosslady
14th February 2013, 17:54
every 2-3 weeks
Akzle
14th February 2013, 18:12
when it rains...
neels
14th February 2013, 18:14
When I've forgotten what colour various black parts used to be.
GSF
14th February 2013, 18:33
If you give it regular small cleans it's never as big a job as when you leave it for months and it turns into a shit-encrusted dogpile.
Plus, cleaning will help slow or prevent corrosion. It might also be easier to spot a fluid leak on a clean bike.
actungbaby
14th February 2013, 18:40
ok everyone on here is a bike nut, so how often to you clean your bike??
To be honest with you am probley over qaulified to answer this
When i get bored or have knowing to do i clean okay
When was young i cleaned my bike ever week i took greta pride in it too , ditto my mx5 car along came marriage and a son and
yeah car fell to bits well not literlly but yeah
Some school thought u should be riding the bike not cleaning
But everones diffrent ideas and yes i still clean alot
Only its the house know so go firgure
I really mean clean the bike so my advice do it often your young the cleaning i mean
well think i mostley mean that oh dont be scared of girls there okay lol
The Lone Rider
14th February 2013, 18:44
When it's noticably dirty, I spray wheel cleaner on the rims and use a microfibre covered sponge with car wash solution on all the rest. Then hose down.
Then dry with a shammy.
And maybe once a month I polish the chrome.
vifferman
14th February 2013, 18:46
... so it's really difficult to wash my bike (without incurring a $200 fine from the D'Auckland Cuncil).
Shortie
14th February 2013, 18:54
Every two weeks or so, it reminds me to oil the chain
AllanB
14th February 2013, 19:05
I have always kept mine very clean. Can't see the point in buying a new bike and letting it go to shit.
Road kill
14th February 2013, 19:07
Every time I ride it.
I also carry a cleaning rag with me when ever I ride so when I stop for any length of time I can give her a quick wipe down so she stays looking good.
On non riding days I usually go over both bikes just to make sure there's no smears on the chrome or road dirt on the under side of the engine or swing arms I might of missed during the standard cleaning.
On the "very rare" occasion I get caught in the rain I go over the bike with compressed air and a bunch of cleaning rags as soon as I get home.
I won't even park next to a dirty bike an you can bet the farm that I won't talk to the grub who owns it.
Oakie
14th February 2013, 19:11
I always wash mine the day before a good rainfall. It's not planned that way ... it just seems to happen.
Akzle
14th February 2013, 19:31
I always wash mine the day before a good rainfall. It's not planned that way ... it just seems to happen.
can you come over and wash your bike.... paddocks need the rain. it's getting brown. browner than my trousers. they're corduroy. and brown, are they brown.
The End
14th February 2013, 19:49
Still got a bike after all those wheelies? (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/143707-Best-way-to-do-wheelies-and-change-gears)
Zamiam
14th February 2013, 19:50
I bought it to ride not to polish so every February 29 :-)
george formby
14th February 2013, 19:58
when it rains...
Yarp. I find that drizzle just streaks the dust which is unsightly. Proper rain is good. Waterblasting? Private road, flat chat, in a down pour.
Ocean1
14th February 2013, 20:05
... so it's really difficult to wash my bike (without incurring a $200 fine from the D'Auckland Cuncil).
How does that work Viffer? Don't they like water in their gutters?
Coldrider
14th February 2013, 20:05
Mine has never been cleaned.
nzspokes
14th February 2013, 20:19
Every Saturday, I commute about 300ks a week. Use it as a time to look for problems starting.
And I like it shiny.
actungbaby
14th February 2013, 20:30
ok everyone on here is a bike nut, so how often to you clean your bike??
On serious note i forgot to add what i do to wash it
I rince the dirt dust of important so dont scatch the paint
Then wash with bike cleaner or car wash well always used car wash
products , rince again oh pays not to wash in direct hot sun
Then get good qaulity shammy (best things ever)
Dry then and this most important part use good wax poilish
That way the water will run off the paint work
Not sure what poilish to use as mostly had soild paints a asusme
Bikes still do and not the clear coated finishs cars have
If u wax and keep that up u have to clean much less than ever
week even if it rains alot use amour on the plastics not the seat
though and never on the tires
Yes and u want take pride in your bike as keep it re sale value
and dont like ratty looking anythings
oh ps
Try keep old rag to clean any oil of the swing arm or wheels after you oiled the chain
as dirt just love the oil and attracts it makes real mess yuk,
but you want take care that before clean the bike u dont want cloth that got
any grit or again you chould even lighty sratch the paint esp its metalic nothing looks
worse, so i start at the handle bars work through tank seat rear ights front etc
finish on the wheels do the same for cars too, then can deal with brake dust last
Berries
14th February 2013, 20:32
I have always kept mine very clean. Can't see the point in buying a new bike and letting it go to shit.
I thought that way back in 2004 when it was new. Now my daily ride gets washed by the bike shop when it goes in for a WoF, and that's it. Having tank water makes excuses easy.
Tryhard
14th February 2013, 20:35
Every couple of weeks. I only ride it once or twice a week for about 2 - 5 hrs a time.
I dont tend to use the hose or a cut and polise just Mequiars Liquid Wax and Armourald (not too sure how to spell)
Laava
14th February 2013, 20:44
I have one beautiful clean and polished bike with rego on hold that I never ride so never need to wash. And two semi filthy bikes that I ride regularly. I always have clean underpants tho, this is very important apparently!
mrchips
14th February 2013, 20:47
I treated my bikes to a wash at Christmas. Otherwise rain seems to keeps em looking clean + Scottoiler keeps the chain in good check.
I don't feel so bad when a work Colleague's commuter bike has never had a wash in the 4 years he's owned it. Any fairing scrappage gets touched up with a 1" paint brush & what looks like green 'fence paint' + he gave it an oil change 3 years ago. It's rusty as fuck yet it stills keeps a rollin
:headbang:
Tryhard
14th February 2013, 20:59
I treated my bikes to a wash at Christmas. Otherwise rain seems to keeps em looking clean + Scottoiler keeps the chain in good check.
I don't feel so bad when a work Colleague's commuter bike has never had a wash in the 4 years he's owned it. Any fairing scrappage gets touched up with a 1" paint brush & what looks like green 'fence paint' + he gave it an oil change 3 years ago. It's rusty as fuck yet it stills keeps a rollin
:headbang:
Is she a Honda or a Suzi?
mrchips
14th February 2013, 21:30
Is she a Honda or a Suzi?
Not too sure. It's got a holden sticker on it tho.... does that count ?
Gremlin
14th February 2013, 21:43
The GSA being an adventure bike, I'm sure it finds some mud to roll in after I've cleaned it as it never stays clean for more than a few days. Still, they look better dirty. Usually the shop tells me they got dirty trying to work on it, or change the tyres etc. Probably not as frequently as a month... I hope I get time to clean it on Saturday before Paeroa, but then it will spend 2 weeks getting dirty again going south.
The Hornet doesn't seem to get dirty, not much anyway...
onearmedbandit
14th February 2013, 21:49
When I'm out in the garage having a smoke I'll generally be running a rag over the bike with some cleaner. After a ride like today where it got covered in bugs and road tar I'll give her the big once twice three times over. It feels good having a mint looking bike.
cheshirecat
14th February 2013, 22:01
Interesting to run this thread in the days of classic Brit bike engineering when such machines operated constant loss oil systems along with Landrovers, MG's, et all. Then the Japs came on the scene and the buggers didn't leak so no protective slimy film to water proof your Barbour jacket. We should put our Scott oilers on the front wheel and let it all blow back then all the pretty bits would be protected and not corrode up.
G4L4XY
14th February 2013, 22:32
I'm often travelling down to Hamilton so I catch all the fucking bugs on the way down don't I. When I go down at night my visor disappears, it basically becomes tinted...with bugs. Right now it's covered in bugs from last weekend. I lube the chain but I ignore the rest. I better give her some attention this weekend though, get those rim strips all clean looking, rims all nice and new looking.
Banditbandit
15th February 2013, 09:31
ok everyone on here is a bike nut, so how often to you clean your bike??
Every two weeks .. this is not about having a clean bike - this is about going over every part of the bike and looking to make sure everything is OK. It's about a safety check ... washing it just helps .. and if you are going over it you might as well wash it at the same time ..
I found that a licence label holder had been smashed and the licence was no longer displayed when I washed a bike a week ago ... I have no idea how long I was on the road without a licence displayed - could have been one or two weeks ... I would not have found it if I had not washed the bike and then been fined for not displaying it ...
In the past I have found loose nuts - etc etc ... so - wash it every two weeks.
BuzzardNZ
15th February 2013, 13:35
Never.....
Jeff Sichoe
15th February 2013, 13:47
Yeah, I have never cleaned a bike and prob never will...
What's the point it's just gonna get dirty again
something about a grubby bike shows it's there to be used and enjoyed not just looked at once in a while or taken down the local cafe for a fucken latte or some other brown ass shit on sunday morning.
rossirep
15th February 2013, 14:02
well my bike is a fucking minter so it gets a wash everytime i take it for a good ride so at least once a week during summer and since it sits in my garage over winter there is no need to wash it, thats the time i work on it and pimp it out for the up coming summer,
its funny that all the people on here who ride shit house old bikes are the ones who dont bother cleaning them and say "no point as its just gonna get dirty again" but all the ones with nice bikes take pride in them an like to ride something that looks good and looks looked after.
i cleaned mine yesterday and chances are it will get another clean on sunday so long as the weather is ok here in the chur this weekend
Pogo2
15th February 2013, 14:06
Every time I ride it.
I also carry a cleaning rag with me when ever I ride so when I stop for any length of time I can give her a quick wipe down so she stays looking good.
On non riding days I usually go over both bikes just to make sure there's no smears on the chrome or road dirt on the under side of the engine or swing arms I might of missed during the standard cleaning.
On the "very rare" occasion I get caught in the rain I go over the bike with compressed air and a bunch of cleaning rags as soon as I get home.
I won't even park next to a dirty bike an you can bet the farm that I won't talk to the grub who owns it.
Glad to see there is another biker like me with OCD....... but I need to buy a compressor
rastuscat
15th February 2013, 14:37
when it rains...
You okay Akzle? That post is surprisingly sensible. You unwell?
Supermac Jr
15th February 2013, 14:46
once a year whether it needs it or not....
Laava
15th February 2013, 15:20
well my bike is a fucking minter so it gets a wash everytime i take it for a good ride so at least once a week during summer and since it sits in my garage over winter there is no need to wash it, thats the time i work on it and pimp it out for the up coming summer,
its funny that all the people on here who ride shit house old bikes are the ones who dont bother cleaning them and say "no point as its just gonna get dirty again" but all the ones with nice bikes take pride in them an like to ride something that looks good and looks looked after.
i cleaned mine yesterday and chances are it will get another clean on sunday so long as the weather is ok here in the chur this weekend
Wow, you must know everyone on here.
Deano
15th February 2013, 15:23
... so it's really difficult to wash my bike (without incurring a $200 fine from the D'Auckland Cuncil).
You what ? Is someone actively enforcing the RMA in that respect ? Do you live near a sensitive environment ? Mangrove estuary?
And its more acceptable to wash a vehicle on the lawn so the 'contaminants' soak into the soil instead of running off into the storm water system. Have you no lawn ?
Please elaborate - I'm genuinely interested.
Maha
15th February 2013, 15:23
When it's dirty:lol:
Agree, and why would you otherwise?
Just started using Motomuck...spray it on (every nook and cranny) wait 10 minutes and hose the bike down, showroom condition.
slofox
15th February 2013, 15:25
If I have enough time to clean the bike, I take it for a ride instead.
Subike
15th February 2013, 15:28
well my bike is a fucking minter so it gets a wash everytime i take it for a good ride so at least once a week during summer and since it sits in my garage over winter there is no need to wash it, thats the time i work on it and pimp it out for the up coming summer,
its funny that all the people on here who ride shit house old bikes are the ones who dont bother cleaning them and say "no point as its just gonna get dirty again" but all the ones with nice bikes take pride in them an like to ride something that looks good and looks looked after.
i cleaned mine yesterday and chances are it will get another clean on sunday so long as the weather is ok here in the chur this weekend
So you started this thread to boost your ego , you found out who does not clean their bike and flame them, you find out who does clean their bike and go one better, and you also flame those who ride their bikes all year , old ones, who dont pamper them like you do.
So really this is a troll thread to boost your ego!
Really Rossi,
I didnt think you were that shallow
Deano
15th February 2013, 15:36
So you started this thread to boost your ego , you found out who does not clean their bike and flame them, you find out who does clean their bike and go one better, and you also flame those who ride their bikes all year , old ones, who dont pamper them like you do.
So really this is a troll thread to boost your ego!
Really Rossi,
I didnt think you were that shallow
All show no go ?
I have a Repsol replica which I think looks the shit but I don't clean it very often. (It's never really 'filthy') Doesn't make it any quicker over the Takas LOL
mrchips
15th February 2013, 15:37
In the past I have found loose nuts - etc etc ... so - wash it every two weeks.
That's what the missus is for..... :clap:
awa355
15th February 2013, 15:37
When your bike gets dirty, just buy another one. More fun,
unfortunately, I have to own a dirty bike,
The cruiser I had was the most time consuming bike in 45 years to keep clean.
Akzle
15th February 2013, 16:24
I
I don't feel so bad when a work Colleague's commuter bike has never had a wash in the 4 years he's owned it. Any fairing scrappage gets touched up with a 1" paint brush & what looks like green 'fence paint' + he gave it an oil change 3 years ago. It's rusty as fuck yet it stills keeps a rollin
:headbang:
that's naaaaasty.
You okay Akzle? That post is surprisingly sensible. You unwell?
i'm touched at your concern.
fuck off and notice some infringements for the good of the community, and come pick up your muff-faced asswipe brother from wellsford.
Road kill
15th February 2013, 17:01
Glad to see there is another biker like me with OCD....... but I need to buy a compressor
Super cheap auto,,,but stay away from the paint work and electrics.
I use mine for wheels,swing arm,under side of guards and engine.
rossirep
15th February 2013, 18:20
So you started this thread to boost your ego , you found out who does not clean their bike and flame them, you find out who does clean their bike and go one better, and you also flame those who ride their bikes all year , old ones, who dont pamper them like you do.
So really this is a troll thread to boost your ego!
Really Rossi,
I didnt think you were that shallow
haters always gonna hate.. and i dont need my ego boosted by some randoms on a website, i get all the ego boost i need when i ride my pimping bike and all the ladies go gaga over how awesome and sexy it is, and you wish is was all show and no go. but you know its not like that at all
FJRider
15th February 2013, 18:25
That's what the missus is for..... :clap:
To be washed every two weeks .. ??? :scratch:
GrayWolf
15th February 2013, 18:40
When it REALLY needs it.... it's for riding not looking like a Tart's boudoir... Errr Hardly Rideitson :)
GrayWolf
15th February 2013, 18:47
well my bike is a fucking minter so it gets a wash everytime i take it for a good ride so at least once a week during summer and since it sits in my garage over winter there is no need to wash it, thats the time i work on it and pimp it out for the up coming summer,
its funny that all the people on here who ride shit house old bikes are the ones who dont bother cleaning them and say "no point as its just gonna get dirty again" but all the ones with nice bikes take pride in them an like to ride something that looks good and looks looked after.
i cleaned mine yesterday and chances are it will get another clean on sunday so long as the weather is ok here in the chur this weekend
Oh wow I am Sooo impressed!!! NOT!
My bike is parked outside 24/7.. I ride it every day.... it doesnt 'lurk in the garage' because it might get 'winter shit' on it, You can clean it as often as you like and have a 'Minter'... lets see it in 100,000km's time? Ah but, you'll ride it 3-5,000km a year max, and sit there crowing how 'wonderful you art'..... and replace it with the latest GSXBKR1 coz it's da shizzzzz, and ya gotta have da shizzz or you aint a real biker, eh?
Go oil ya one piece leathers with the 'notre dame' hunch on the back, polish ya rossi paint job helmet, and write down the memoir's of how frikkin wonderful you are... just dont expect to sell a copy
yes I bet the schoolgirl's all 'fawn' over it when you park outside the Junior high :baby::baby::baby::baby:
rossirep
15th February 2013, 19:08
Oh wow I am Sooo impressed!!! NOT!
My bike is parked outside 24/7.. I ride it every day.... it doesnt 'lurk in the garage' because it might get 'winter shit' on it, You can clean it as often as you like and have a 'Minter'... lets see it in 100,000km's time? Ah but, you'll ride it 3-5,000km a year max, and sit there crowing how 'wonderful you art'..... and replace it with the latest GSXBKR1 coz it's da shizzzzz, and ya gotta have da shizzz or you aint a real biker, eh?
Go oil ya one piece leathers with the 'notre dame' hunch on the back, polish ya rossi paint job helmet, and write down the memoir's of how frikkin wonderful you are... just dont expect to sell a copy
yes I bet the schoolgirl's all 'fawn' over it when you park outside the Junior high :baby::baby::baby::baby:
fark me, jealous and angry much..??
like i said before, haters gonna always hate..
but have fun riding your bike in winter gaywolf and if your ever down this way when the weather is nice drop me a line and il let you look at my awesome bike. ;-) but dont touch it., even thou you know you want to..
Subike
15th February 2013, 20:29
fark me, jealous and angry much..??
like i said before, haters gonna always hate..
but have fun riding your bike in winter gaywolf and if your ever down this way when the weather is nice drop me a line and il let you look at my awesome bike. ;-) but dont touch it., even thou you know you want to..
:eek5::eek5::eek5::dodge::weird::weird:
Road kill
15th February 2013, 21:59
fark me, jealous and angry much..??
like i said before, haters gonna always hate..
but have fun riding your bike in winter gaywolf and if your ever down this way when the weather is nice drop me a line and il let you look at my awesome bike. ;-) but dont touch it., even thou you know you want to..
Ha Ha good on ya'.
neels
15th February 2013, 23:31
fark me, jealous and angry much..??
like i said before, haters gonna always hate..
but have fun riding your bike in winter gaywolf and if your ever down this way when the weather is nice drop me a line and il let you look at my awesome bike. ;-) but dont touch it., even thou you know you want to..
What a cock.
rossirep
16th February 2013, 10:08
What a cock.
you wanna touch my what.??
Akzle
16th February 2013, 10:21
you wanna touch my what.??
bike...
...with my keys.
scumdog
16th February 2013, 10:32
when it rains...
OK, who hacked Akzles 'puter and post helpful stuff like this?
Akzle
16th February 2013, 10:53
OK, who hacked Akzles 'puter and post helpful stuff like this?
bit late to the party. rasty puss already got it.
Grizzo
16th February 2013, 12:44
ok everyone on here is a bike nut, so how often to you clean your bike??
Not nearly enough!
bluninja
16th February 2013, 13:04
Washing bikes breaks them :rolleyes: washed mine and it wouldn't start the next day.
Mine gets washed when I've been through road works so I don't let any corrosive cement dust eat through the waffer thin paint ro when I want to give the bike a good look over to make sure it's sound.
I used to have a special liquid in the UK that I would coat the bike with that stopped salt and corrosives harming the bike. Just a rinse of with the hose and all was good, jst didn't look all gleamy and shining. It's the same stuff they put on planes, the only problem I found was that at speed the front wheel started to go really light and was prone to lift :cool:
I used to use a rag with WD40 (CRC) and wipe the bike over. Nice clean and a bit of protection.
Road kill
16th February 2013, 22:42
Washing bikes breaks them :rolleyes: washed mine and it wouldn't start the next day.
Mine gets washed when I've been through road works so I don't let any corrosive cement dust eat through the waffer thin paint ro when I want to give the bike a good look over to make sure it's sound.
I used to have a special liquid in the UK that I would coat the bike with that stopped salt and corrosives harming the bike. Just a rinse of with the hose and all was good, jst didn't look all gleamy and shining. It's the same stuff they put on planes, the only problem I found was that at speed the front wheel started to go really light and was prone to lift :cool:
I used to use a rag with WD40 (CRC) and wipe the bike over. Nice clean and a bit of protection.
LPS3 does the same thing your special liquid did/does.
Buy it in a spray can at your local engineers supply shop.
Don't get it on those round black things though.
unstuck
17th February 2013, 05:22
I like em dirty.:devil2:
Corse1
17th February 2013, 09:36
When I am bored! Cleaning is good for checking items that you might otherwise not notice.
MIXONE
17th February 2013, 09:52
When the mother-in-law comes to stay...
bluninja
17th February 2013, 17:52
When the mother-in-law comes to stay...
Oh she washes your bike? Wow what a considerate lady....oh no! wait a minute. You mean YOU wash the bike so you can hide from your scarey MIL :baby:
MIXONE
17th February 2013, 19:08
Oh she washes your bike? Wow what a considerate lady....oh no! wait a minute. You mean YOU wash the bike so you can hide from your scarey MIL :baby:
My MIL is so scarey that her only use is when I take her diving.She acts as a shark reppellent.:eek:
Berries
17th February 2013, 21:55
How did this thread get on to MILFs so quickly?
reggie1198
17th February 2013, 22:17
I'm constantly have to don gloves to wipe up fluid deposits left on my bike. Keeping the bike well polished helps, as the man jam can't penetrate the paint job.
Clean it when she needs it or when I'm avoiding doing something around the house, or the missus.
Banditbandit
18th February 2013, 10:44
That's what the missus is for..... :clap:
Bwhahahaha .. she may want to get rid of you and deliberately loosen a few nuts ... how much do you trust her?
superjackal
18th February 2013, 11:57
Clean it when it's dirty - about every 2 weeks. Deep clean a specific area every month. Bike looks way better than when I bought it. Weekly rinse/dry off....
Can't wait to buy a new bike. Have always wondered how dirty it will get over time. Most cars/bikes I've bought have always ended up clean enough to eat off...
p.dath
19th February 2013, 06:52
ok everyone on here is a bike nut, so how often to you clean your bike??
I am a road rider, and mostly ride on nice sealed roads. I clean my bike about once a fortnight, weather it looks dirty or not.
mrchips
20th February 2013, 18:58
Bwhahahaha .. she may want to get rid of you and deliberately loosen a few nuts ... how much do you trust her?
ha, ha.
I trust her with my life, but if she read this..... my nuts would be permanently loosened :pinch:
nudemetalz
25th February 2013, 11:46
I was waiting for bikini clad ladies piccies of bikes being washed. Obviously wrong thread ... :cool:
willytheekid
25th February 2013, 12:24
I was waiting for bikini clad ladies piccies of bikes being washed. Obviously wrong thread ... :cool:
Yup!....tis just another of Rossi's "look at me" threads...but just for you...I try to fix:niceone:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1348/1098961116_f4a4457ccf.jpg
Better??
Zedder
25th February 2013, 13:36
Yup!....tis just another of Rossi's "look at me" threads...but just for you...I try to fix:niceone:
Better??
Have you got a link to a video there Wtk? I want to see what brand of detergent, cleaning cloths etc the girls are using.
rossirep
25th February 2013, 14:20
Yup!....tis just another of Rossi's "look at me" threads...but just for you...I try to fix:niceone:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1348/1098961116_f4a4457ccf.jpg
Better??
dont be such a hater old man, if you had half the cool iv got you would be fucking amazing
willytheekid
25th February 2013, 15:00
dont be such a hater old man, if you had half the cool iv got you would be fucking amazing
:killingme...I can only wish :sleep:
but for the record!....Im not old!:oi-grr:
...just..."aging rapidly":crazy:
ps: you learnt to wheely yet?:killingme...:innocent:
nudemetalz
25th February 2013, 15:14
Why thank you, Willy !!
(That so sounds like I"m talking to my old fellah....)
R650R
26th February 2013, 20:20
Used to be a lot, now only during times of high sexual frustration. Used to be a running joke in our flat of three bikers, whoever had a clean bike wasn't getting any LOL
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