Cancelled: 60 years of sidecars on the streets of Wanganui [Archive]

jellywrestler

15th February 2013, 08:40

I started this thread to announce the 60 years of Sidecars at wanganui an event that I thought of and I was keen to manage/steer etc. A number of people have been enthusiastic about the whole concept but it seems that there are those who want to use this as a conduit to aim their ill feelings towards other competitors and the event at Wanganui.
Sorry folks, if that's the way it's heading then I'm out
Graeme 'Spyda' Staples

When the Cemetery circuit ran the first year in 1951 Sidecars weren't around so it was just a solo meeting the following year Sidecars were added to the programme and have run at every meeting since then. This year at the Cemetery circuit there will be a celebration of 60 years since they first raced with a number of old machines and past riders and supporters already marking it on their calendar to be there.
It's in the early stages of planning at the moment so keep an eye out for what official things will be on and if anyone has any suggestions as to what could be included let us know
spyda

nodrog

15th February 2013, 08:50

A parade lap with all sidecars, in chronological order from oldest to newest would be pretty choice i reckon, give people an idea of howthings have evolved.

scrivy

15th February 2013, 11:27

if anyone has any suggestions as to what could be included let us know

More haybales........ :whistle::shutup::facepalm:

scrivy

15th February 2013, 11:29

Seriously.... more toilets!!

jellywrestler

15th February 2013, 11:38

Seriously.... more toilets!!

yep we all know you're full of shit Scrivy...
i know this is KB but i'd still like the thread to be about the subject, not the event after you getting married there and a couple of sidecar deaths over the years we could call it 'two funerals and a wedding'???

scrivy

15th February 2013, 11:44

yep we all know you're full of shit Scrivy...
i know this is KB but i'd still like the thread to be about the subject, not the event after you getting married there and a couple of sidecar deaths over the years we could call it 'two funerals and a wedding'???

Or if we let Tracey win... Two Girls, 1 .......

scrivy

15th February 2013, 11:47

'two funerals and a wedding'???

How many sidecar deaths there?

jellywrestler

15th February 2013, 11:47

Or if we let Tracey win... Two Girls, 1 .......

yes you know its sore point with me that despite there being a team of two on a bike there's only ever one cup for them...

oops
sending my own thread off topic, oh well it was going to happen anyway

scrivy

15th February 2013, 11:50

yes you know its sore point with me that despite there being a team of two on a bike there's only ever one cup for them...

WTF??? Cup?? I was going to say... 1 Trophy. What were you referring to????

jellywrestler

15th February 2013, 11:52

How many sidecar deaths there? we'll technically this is 60 years of Sidecars Street Racing at Wanganui. it's not only the cemetery circuit so it could be one two or three Sidecar Fatalities over the years.
there was a rider died at the Motua Gardens Circuit in 1962, his name eludes me at the moment

Tony Fleming Died on the CC the day after boxing day circa 1986, twas a two day meeting

and Roy Lovell died after crashing on the CC in a mid winter meeting

hey did ya support your local Tourettes society and buy one of their Valentines cards yesterday? the ones with the nice writing inside, 'It's the thought that cunts'

jellywrestler

15th February 2013, 11:53

WTF??? Cup?? I was going to say... 1 Trophy. What were you referring to????

two girls one cup, a documentary teaching women how to share...

scrivy

15th February 2013, 11:56

two girls one cup, a story the two breast cancer survivors of course

Oh...... you're talking shit now..... :lol:

sidecar bob

15th February 2013, 12:53

their has been some preliminary discussion about inviting a box of Pom's with F2 outfits, more discussion required at Paeroa this weekend.
Either for Wangi, or the Bazza.

scrivy

15th February 2013, 13:05

their has been some preliminary discussion about inviting a box of Pom's with F2 outfits, more discussion required at Paeroa this weekend.
Either for Wangi, or the Bazza.

It's a big ask to do it for Wangas. Rained out and you're screwed, and it's only a one day meeting. Too much coin for someone to spend to come over for.

sidecar bob

15th February 2013, 13:11

It's a big ask to do it for Wangas. Rained out and you're screwed, and it's only a one day meeting. Too much coin for someone to spend to come over for.

Yeah, thats definitely points in the Bazza's favour.

jellywrestler

15th February 2013, 13:16

It's a big ask to do it for Wangas. Rained out and you're screwed, and it's only a one day meeting. Too much coin for someone to spend to come over for.

wanganui is the last round of three meetings don't forget, i'm sure a box of poms would enjoy one two or three meetings at a time as a better option.

scrivy

15th February 2013, 13:19

wanganui is the last round of three meetings don't forget, i'm sure a box of poms would enjoy one two or three meetings at a time as a better option.

Oh, fuck me..... are sidecars allowed to race at those other two meetings now??
Whats changed........

swarfie

15th February 2013, 13:23

wanganui is the last round of three meetings don't forget, i'm sure a box of poms would enjoy one two or three meetings at a time as a better option.

Thats if you can get those twonks that run the Tri-Series to include sidecars at the Hamsters and Manfield rounds...and NOT insist on 15 minimum entries:weird:

jellywrestler

15th February 2013, 13:26

Oh, fuck me..... are sidecars allowed to race at those other two meetings now??
Whats changed........

There's now a more sustainable number of bikes and competitors to mayb eget some reasonable grids again.
I talked to Flea last Saturday re this 60 year thing and he asked me to ask the NZSRA if they were interested in fronting a sizeable grid for this years tri series.
for the last race at HD the tri series before last there were six bikes on the grid and that was the first meeting, their main concern was that would two rounds before the Cem Cct reduce the feild to a point where it is not viable to run at Wanganui.

Anyways, I passed on Fleas request to Tracey to put to the Association

jellywrestler

15th February 2013, 13:27

Thats if you can get those twonks that run the Tri-Series to include sidecars at the Hamsters and Manfield rounds...and NOT insist on 15 minimum entries:weird:

sidecars aren't the only class that hasn't been able to meet the numbers and had the entries cancelled...

sidecar bob

15th February 2013, 14:12

wanganui is the last round of three meetings don't forget, i'm sure a box of poms would enjoy one two or three meetings at a time as a better option.

You'd better have them contact Chris Lawrance pronto so the promoter can explain how big his chequebook is.

Fast Eddie

15th February 2013, 15:12

Sounds wicked!

Liked gordys idea of parade lap with bikes in order from oldest to newest :D as long as the agip bike is in there ;)

Will be planning to go up to the Barry Sheene again this year and Wanganui Street race.. if Tri Series is allowing sidecars and numbers are lacking I might be able to swing that way too.. will see.

jellywrestler

15th February 2013, 17:32

You'd better have them contact Chris Lawrance pronto so the promoter can explain how big his chequebook is.

fuck off, I have done what Flea asked me to while on the phone on another subject, pass on a message to the NZSRA. Please discuss this with the president of the New Zeland Sidecar Racing Association if you desire to.
The sport is moving ahead now, it's up to the competitors etc to capitalise on it, or suppress it again, tis their call...

Fast Eddie

15th February 2013, 18:33

The sport is moving ahead now, it's up to the competitors etc to capitalise on it, or suppress it again, tis there call...

Capitalise and move ahead I say!

sidecar bob

15th February 2013, 19:06

fuck off, I have done what Flea asked me to while on the phone on another subject, pass on a message to the NZSRA. Please discuss this with the president of the New Zeland Sidecar Racing Association if you desire to.
The sport is moving ahead now, it's up to the competitors etc to capitalise on it, or suppress it again, tis there call...

So we pay to get some poms down here & they take at the gate? sounds fair dont you think?

jellywrestler

15th February 2013, 19:22

So we pay to get some poms down here & they take at the gate? sounds fair dont you think?

start another thread Bob, I'm trying to promote sidecars and have done through thick and thin that's one reason i put forward the idea of a 60th, you mentioned a one off meeting for poms you didn't mention you're chequebooking it, i mentioned there's three as a solution offering the poms the chance to do more than one meeting, sort the nuts and bolts of it out elsewhere please

jellywrestler

15th February 2013, 19:24

and rumour has it Shaun Harris wants to race against the poms on a Sidecar too

sidecar bob

16th February 2013, 08:12

and rumour has it Shaun Harris wants to race against the poms on a Sidecar too

Cool, Im going to lend him the pink outfit.
Imagine that, an I.O.M legend riding an I.O.M legend!!

sidecar bob

16th February 2013, 08:14

start another thread Bob, I'm trying to promote sidecars and have done through thick and thin that's one reason i put forward the idea of a 60th, you mentioned a one off meeting for poms you didn't mention you're chequebooking it, i mentioned there's three as a solution offering the poms the chance to do more than one meeting, sort the nuts and bolts of it out elsewhere please

I think were both on the same page there, promoting sidecars. Ive got two outfits running at Paeroa, neither of which im riding. Plus the Pre '82 thing will eventually be huge!!

jellywrestler

16th February 2013, 10:04

Saw this on the way to Hampton Downs last weekend last raced in the fifties at wanganui and is as it rode there too. The sidecar was only unbolted a year or so ago to make so bikes as last used to. It will be at the Cemetery Circuit this year
they're out there

scrivy

16th February 2013, 10:17

The sport is moving ahead now, it's up to the competitors etc to capitalise on it, or suppress it again, tis their call...

The reason why its moving forward is because the supressor is no longer in the sport.

jellywrestler

16th February 2013, 10:34

Billy

16th February 2013, 12:10

The reason why its moving forward is because the supressor is no longer in the sport.

Yea....Thats not quite true,If it not for me going against the wishes of others and offering Tracey an opening,Plus her undying efforts to bring it all together along with a number of other competitors who just wanted to go racing,Yourself included,Then it would most definitely not have made the progress it has this season,No one person can make or break any sport.

scrivy

16th February 2013, 12:28

60years of Sidecars on the Streets of Wanganui CANCELLED
I started this thread to announce the 60 years of Sidecars at wanganui an event that I thought of and I was keen to manage/steer etc. A number of people have been enthusiastic about the whole concept but it seems that there are those who want to use this as a conduit to aim their ill feelings towards other competitors and the event at Wanganui.
Sorry folks, if that's they way it's heading then I'm out
Graeme 'Spyda' Staples

Wtf? Am I not on kb? Since when can certain people hijack a thread, but others cannot?? You implied Spyda that NZSRA members suppresed our sport. I say bullshit to that, now our sport is growing due to NZSRA support.

Kickaha

16th February 2013, 12:48

The reason why its moving forward is because the supressor is no longer in the sport.

Sometimes you really are a fuckwit

You should stop and put a bit of thought into things before you open your mouth

jellywrestler

16th February 2013, 12:54

The sport is moving ahead now, it's up to the competitors etc to capitalise on it, or suppress it again, tis their call...

Wtf? Am I not on kb? Since when can certain people hijack a thread, but others cannot?? You implied Spyda that NZSRA members suppresed our sport. I say bullshit to that, now our sport is growing due to NZSRA support.

RE-Read it again Scrivy C O M P E T I T O R S, it's in their hands, never mentioned nor implied the NZSRA whatsoever.

CHOPPA

17th February 2013, 20:56

Why have they been cancelled?

nodrog

18th February 2013, 06:38

www.depression.org.nz see you there

scrivy

18th February 2013, 11:20

Cool, Im going to lend him the pink outfit.
Imagine that, an I.O.M legend riding an I.O.M legend!!

Doesn't it have a cracked head now?

sidecar bob

18th February 2013, 12:00

Doesn't it have a cracked head now?

Yeah, but the sidecar just needs a bit of fiberglass work.

scrivy

18th February 2013, 12:02

Yeah, but the sidecar just needs a bit of fiberglass work.

Oh.... cracked fibreglass, I thought it had a cracked head. My bad. Wasn't there yesterday, all I heard was cracked.

Fast Eddie

18th February 2013, 13:24

Don't cancel it Spyda..

what can we do to help? I'm a uni student I have time.. (not cash though, ask Kick for the cash)

sidecar bob

18th February 2013, 18:35

Don't cancel it Spyda..

what can we do to help? I'm a uni student I have time.. (not cash though, ask Kick for the cash)

The decision to run or not to run will be made at meetings sometime in the future, this is on the NZSRA agenda for the upcoming AGM & a proposal will be put to the CC, it will not be made on some internet forum.
We bent over backwards last year to provide a sufficent quantity of outfits as requested by Cemetary Circiut, that number was then increased by them, we then provided the revised minimum grid, which exceeded the superbike grid at the first two national rounds this year, at quite some cost to several behind the scenes financial backers, not the promoters.
Having said that, the number of entries requested probably did sidecar racing in general a lot more good than harm at the end of the day.
I own several sidecars & a front running solo, so when the organisers decide what they are doing this year, I will be happy to consider entering said bikes.
Of course the option of cutting off their noses to spite their faces is entirely open to them.
Having said that, I am aware that Mr Willacy & Mr Billington have been nothing but a pleasure for the NZSRA representative to deal with.

Drew

18th February 2013, 19:07

No one has any idea what the build date on our chair was. The chronological thing will be hard for us.

nodrog

18th February 2013, 19:11

No one has any idea what the build date on our chair was. The chronological thing will be hard for us.

It doesnt have to be down to the last pedantic millisecond.

you must be having a choice honeymoon? how was sex for the first time? is your bum still sore?

Drew

18th February 2013, 19:16

It doesnt have to be down to the last pedantic millisecond.

you must be having a choice honeymoon? how was sex for the first time? is your bum still sore?

No honeymoon just yet. GP season hasn't started yet.

We can't offer a decade in which our chair was built.

nodrog

18th February 2013, 19:18

....We can't offer a decade in which our chair was built.

sand the paint off and check the newspaper date on the paper mache :niceone:

sugilite

18th February 2013, 19:19

Sheesh, you sidecar guys. If you'd bought as much action to the track as you do to KB, the spectator stands would be brimming full!

Drew

18th February 2013, 19:22

Sheesh, you sidecar guys. If you'd bought as much action to the track as you do to KB, the spectator stands would be brimming full!

Want me to organise an outfit for you to pilot some time stretch?

sugilite

18th February 2013, 19:25

Want me to organise an outfit for you to pilot some time stretch?

Watchooo talking bout Willis? You cannot be serious, who would be crazy enough to swing for a complete noob like me? :weird:

Drew

18th February 2013, 19:30

Watchooo talking bout Willis? You cannot be serious, who would be crazy enough to swing for a complete noob like me? :weird:

Bet at least five guys would, and maybe one girl. But Day Lawrance might have put her off noobs for life.

sugilite

18th February 2013, 19:35

Bet at least five guys would, and maybe one girl. But Day Lawrance might have put her off noobs for life.

So it's true, sidecar people really are crazy! To be honest, I have never once thought about that, but now you bring it up, I'm guessing some serious upper body strength would be required just to get one to turn in and hold a line. Is there such a thing as ride days for sidecars???

sidecar bob

18th February 2013, 19:42

So it's true, sidecar people really are crazy! To be honest, I have never once thought about that, but now you bring it up, I'm guessing some serious upper body strength would be required just to get one to turn in and hold a line. Is there such a thing as ride days for sidecars???

There surely is. Sat 4th may at Taupo circiut, from 12.00 to 3.30pm on the old track.

nodrog

18th February 2013, 19:43

So it's true, sidecar people really are crazy! To be honest, I have never once thought about that, but now you bring it up, I'm guessing some serious upper body strength would be required just to get one to turn in and hold a line. Is there such a thing as ride days for sidecars???

first saturday in may, taupo, old track, 12-3pm, $10 to swing for 3 laps on the sidecar of your choice, or if you are nice you may get to hold the steering wheel, bring your mates.

sugilite

18th February 2013, 20:11

Thanks guys, food for thought.

scrivy

18th February 2013, 20:12

first saturday in may, taupo, old track, 12-3pm, $10 to swing for 3 laps on the sidecar of your choice, or if you are nice you may get to hold the steering wheel, bring your mates.

Can I hold it too???278728

scrivy

18th February 2013, 20:14

Sheesh, you sidecar guys. If you'd bought as much action to the track as you do to KB, the spectator stands would be brimming full!

Action? Rimming?
WTF are you talking about willis??
Had me all excited then!!:killingme

sugilite

18th February 2013, 20:16

Action? Rimming?
WTF are you talking about willis??
Had me all excited then!!:killingme
Can see I'll need to sew in a kevlar patch to the arse of my leathers if I show up to a giz a go day!

scrivy

18th February 2013, 20:17

We can't offer a decade in which our chair was built.

1958 by burt munro.....

scrivy

18th February 2013, 20:17

Can see I'll need to sew in a kevlar patch to the arse of my leathers if I show up to a giz a go day!

Only if Drew goes........

scrivy

18th February 2013, 20:27

We can't offer a decade in which our chair was built.

Apparantely it was built in early 90's by some brothers and it had a FJ1200 in it?? That's if it's the ex Puketapu/Vincent machine.

Drew

18th February 2013, 21:25

Apparantely it was built in early 90's by some brothers and it had a FJ1200 in it?? That's if it's the ex Puketapu/Vincent machine.

That's more than we knew till now....

So it's newer and lighter than yours?

Chris Lawrence knew the most about it when I spoke to him. Might be worth another phone call.

Doesn't make sense that it's got no id plate though.

ellipsis

18th February 2013, 21:34

Sheesh, you sidecar guys. If you'd bought as much action to the track as you do to KB, the spectator stands would be brimming full!

...my old man told me, 'never mock the afflicted', it could come back and bite you on the arse one day...