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HenryDorsetCase
15th February 2013, 14:54
and in the UK

http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news--general-news/policewoman-escapes-prosecution-after-killing-biker/22331.html


she had a good lawyer, huh?

Zedder
15th February 2013, 15:28
Not good at all. She lied initially as well.

In Bangkok though, a cop is worth a "funeral fee" of $97,000 if killed by an heir to the Red Bull fortune who had alcohol and cocaine in his system.

slofox
15th February 2013, 15:28
Must be nice to have "friends in high places"...

MIXONE
15th February 2013, 15:37
Must be nice to have "friends in high places"...

I'd rather get high at friend's places...

avgas
15th February 2013, 16:20
Distracted.
Even in court.

and still got off.

Deano
15th February 2013, 16:25
What a load of BULLSHIT.

SMOKEU
15th February 2013, 16:59
God damn liberals.

KiWiP
15th February 2013, 18:11
She wasn't a real policewoman. In the UK 'specials' are unpaid volunteers who dress up and perform specialised police duties (annoying people). This is a joke as you are only allowed to use hands free devices, i.e. those that don't use the hands. So if she had it in her lap and 'briefly' answered a call she must have manipulated the phone with her hands. She should be prosecuted just as a member of the public would have been if a copper had been killed.

tigertim20
15th February 2013, 21:57
sounds about right, the rules only apply to some!

zippy
15th February 2013, 22:05
She wasn't a real policewoman. In the UK 'specials' are unpaid volunteers who dress up and perform specialised police duties (annoying people). This is a joke as you are only allowed to use hands free devices, i.e. those that don't use the hands. So if she had it in her lap and 'briefly' answered a call she must have manipulated the phone with her hands. She should be prosecuted just as a member of the public would have been if a copper had been killed.

Bit like saying a volunteer firefighter is not a real firefighter or a volunteer St johns paramedic is not a real paramedic.

Does the lack of being paid for the role or time volunteered make it any less real?

But the CPS that decided there was not enough evidence. They should have run with it and let the courts decide.

KiWiP
15th February 2013, 23:43
Bit like saying a volunteer firefighter is not a real firefighter or a volunteer St johns paramedic is not a real paramedic.

Nope, different roles, different people. I have 100% admiration for all volunteers but not for special police. I have met many and never been impressed by their motivations to fulfill their community role.

plus volunteer firefighters fight real fires, volunteer paramedics save real lives. volunteer policemen ? not sure what they do of any use that any civil minded citizen does.


Does the lack of being paid for the role or time volunteered make it any less real?

No again but that wasn't the point

Vagabond
16th February 2013, 11:03
And the difference is?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10744836

flyingcrocodile46
19th February 2013, 19:39
And the difference is?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10744836


Aww Fuck. NZ police have just fallen off the bottom rung of the ladder imo. Fucking dirty lowlife cock sucker. He should have been made example of. Cunts get off rape and assault charges routinely as well. That's the end of any slack I will cut them and the last vestiges of any respect or sympathy. Cowardly lying two faced cunts. Fuck all of you pigs that read this. You should be afuckingshamed to be part of such a corrupt moral culture. I'm damned sure I would be telling them to shove their job because I couldn't bear to be part of something so fucking vile. Until you do you are just fucking cunts.

From the sheeple to the filth.

Katman
19th February 2013, 19:42
Aww Fuck. NZ police have just fallen off the bottom rung of the ladder imo. Fucking dirty lowlife cock sucker. He should have been made example of. Cunts get off rape and assault charges routinely as well. That's the end of any slack I will cut them and the last vestiges of any respect or sympathy. Cowardly lying two faced cunts. Fuck all of you pigs that read this. You should be afuckingshamed to be part of such a corrupt moral culture.

Of course, riding within one's limits doesn't even enter into it.

Does it?

Shitforbrains.

flyingcrocodile46
19th February 2013, 19:47
Of course, riding within one's limits doesn't even enter into it.

Does it?

Shitforbrains.

Stop trying to distort what I was said cunt.

Its manslaughter you dumb cunt. He broke the fucking law executing a crazy dumb cunt u turn next to a crest you fucking homo. FOAD

Madness
19th February 2013, 19:49
Shitforbrains.


dumb cunt... you fucking homo. FOAD

flyingcrocodile46: 1, Katman: 0

:corn:

Katman
19th February 2013, 19:49
Its manslaughter you dumb cunt. He broke the fucking law executing a crazy dumb cunt u turn next to a crest you fucking homo. FOAD

'Cos of course, no-one else broke the law that day.

flyingcrocodile46
19th February 2013, 19:58
'Cos of course, no-one else broke the law that day.

Dumb cunt.

Fuck you are the densest safety homo I have encountered.

With this precedent the next person they do this to might be under the speed limit and end up as a quadriplegic and the pig will get fined how much then. $100? No doubt he will be on paid leave throughout and won't be disadvanted at all. Unlike the victims family who have lost everything and more.

Katman
19th February 2013, 20:00
With this precedent the next person......

.....might think twice about heading over a blind crest at a stupid speed.

tigertim20
19th February 2013, 20:52
Of course, riding within one's limits doesn't even enter into it.

Does it?

Shitforbrains.

pretty shallow argument from someone who always bangs on about safety etc. The point here is that doing a turn at that point of the road was a dangerous decision, and a dangerous place to make the manouvre. The person who was killed couldve been anyone, in any vehicle, travelling at any speed.
all other factors being the same, had the u turn not been performed, a life would not have been lost, that we can be certain of, but had he been at the speed limit, he would most likley have still been killed, or at the least, quite badly hurt.

And the 'speeding' comment isn't really that well supported, the 'estimates' from the people who were supposedly professionals in the field of such things were somewhere between 114, and 158km or so? thats a BIG gap, he might have been at 105, who knows, with an estimate THAT vague, it's a bit hard to state unequivocally that he was definitely speeding, or at a dangerous speed

zippy
20th February 2013, 00:03
Nope, different roles, different people. I have 100% admiration for all volunteers but not for special police. I have met many and never been impressed by their motivations to fulfill their community role.

plus volunteer firefighters fight real fires, volunteer paramedics save real lives. volunteer policemen ? not sure what they do of any use that any civil minded citizen does.



No again but that wasn't the point

And police volunteers deal with crime/traffic accidents/life saving situations, aside from two lives i saved, one at a small passenger plane crash at Denham airfield who had a deep neck wound and another who suffered deep stab wounds to his chest and his mouth cut open back to his ear while on duty, dealing with other crime including busting someone with 500g of crack cocaine (which is quite a large amount to find) and coming across numerous other incidents like Friday night town centre assaults/fights/domestic incidents/traffic accidents/arrested numerous drunk drivers while patrolling myself on my own amongst numerous other crimes including arresting a wanted sex offender while off duty. Dozens of crimes that would have gone undetected or " they got away with" had i not been a special.

I would have said at the start my motivation to join was due to being a kiwi and its the kiwi thing to do as we like to help out in our community but in reality to start with it was the numerous people stating they do not see enough police on the streets in the uk and i was one of them happy to moan and complain but i decided well i am going to go out there to add that extra officer to the community rather than sit back complaining like i actually know what it is about.

I was giving up a minimum 10 hours a week despite having a 40 hour a week job to do and a very supportive wife at home i could have spent more time with or even gone out drinking myself instead on a friday/saturday night but i was out on the beat for no pay.

Yes there are the "18 -20 year old specials" who liked to wear the uniform for the 'cool factor' with aspirations of joining the police full time but out of the 10 specials on my team he was the only one, the other 9 on my team were 30 year old+ career professionals and family people like myself with wife/kids/husband and other jobs/careers to go too who had not intention of joining full time, i see the "annoying people" comment to be taint everyone with the same brush due to what i assume was a bad experience you had with a few specials yourself or seeing articles in the newspaper like this one in the OPs post, hell we all know that in every industry or walk of life there are always bad apples - but in reality there are alot of specials out there who did it for the love of making a difference like myself.

I will say what i have said before to people, go volunteer as a special like I did for 8 years and then make judgement… ….people are quick to judge what specials are about and profile them to a certain group and what they do but when challenged to go find out for themselves they never do because its easier to sit back complaining.

But i am not sure why i tried to justify the role or people like me who did it by writing all of the above, you made it clear i am part of the "annoying people and you have no admiration for people like myself" but i know what i did out there made a difference in peoples lives because they mother of the young stab victim who's life i saved i know has admiration for people like me who special-ed, its still clear by the xmas cards i get from her several years later all the way from England still.

Rashika
20th February 2013, 08:40
The uk case sucks arse BIGTIME, she should get the same as any other driver.
Sometimes the kiwi courts actually do get it right though...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/2301604/Police-three-point-turn-guilty-verdict

and for those who know the road, it is actually quite difficult to speed by much over the limit, and fkn near impossible to stop in time at most legal speeds if someone does something so incredibly BEYOND stupid as this driver/cop did... car or bike it would have had near the same outcome

Katman
20th February 2013, 09:22
And the 'speeding' comment isn't really that well supported, the 'estimates' from the people who were supposedly professionals in the field of such things were somewhere between 114, and 158km or so? thats a BIG gap, he might have been at 105, who knows, with an estimate THAT vague, it's a bit hard to state unequivocally that he was definitely speeding, or at a dangerous speed

Clearly, I'm somewhat more of a realist than you.

Smifffy
20th February 2013, 09:44
So who doesn't think that Lenihan was showing off to his mate with a thrilling display of rapidly entering into hot pursuit? Got your ears on Enos?

I'm damned sure if you or I were driving that car on that day, then the penalties would have been much greater.

ducatilover
20th February 2013, 11:35
'Cos of course, no-one else broke the law that day.

:niceone: You're one of a kind Katman.

Kermit250
20th February 2013, 12:30
"A bit of context.

The biker was on the RHS of the road doing an overtake past a van on the approach to a junction. She couldn't see him, he couldn't see her.

The family have nothing but praise for the investigating offers, who have pressed very hard for the CPS to prosecute. They've refused.

Read more: http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news--general-news/policewoman-escapes-prosecution-after-killing-biker/22331.html#ixzz2LOWprWmq "

The article is not stating all the information. Perhaps we shouldn't be so quick to cry bloody murder.

The issues raised are human issues, not just issues within the Police. I personally have a huge respect for the folks who do what they do for us.

Katman
20th February 2013, 13:13
The article is not stating all the information. Perhaps we shouldn't be so quick to cry bloody murder.


That's outrageous!!!

How dare you suggest there might be another side to it?

Zedder
20th February 2013, 13:35
"A bit of context.

The biker was on the RHS of the road doing an overtake past a van on the approach to a junction. She couldn't see him, he couldn't see her.

The family have nothing but praise for the investigating offers, who have pressed very hard for the CPS to prosecute. They've refused.

Read more: http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news--general-news/policewoman-escapes-prosecution-after-killing-biker/22331.html#ixzz2LOWprWmq "

The article is not stating all the information. Perhaps we shouldn't be so quick to cry bloody murder.

The issues raised are human issues, not just issues within the Police. I personally have a huge respect for the folks who do what they do for us.

So do I, as long as they do it legally.

Kermit250
20th February 2013, 14:31
That's outrageous!!!

How dare you suggest there might be another side to it?

Just need an emoticon for sarcasm eh?

flyingcrocodile46
20th February 2013, 15:41
"A bit of context.

The article is not stating all the information. Perhaps we shouldn't be so quick to cry bloody murder.


A rather misleading comment considering that nobody here cried bloody murder in respect to the incident to which you are referring in the first incident.

Idiots like the safety homo are too easily confused and are likely to take it out of context and see it as a vindication of our local filth getting a paltry hand slap when breaking the law by comitting considerably more reckless acts (U turns at road crests) than using a cell phone when driving.

See


That's outrageous!!!

How dare you suggest there might be another side to it?

Kermit250
20th February 2013, 15:52
A rather misleading comment considering that nobody here cried bloody murder in respect to the incident to which you are referring in the first incident.

Idiots like the safety homo are too easily confused and are likely to take it out of context and see it as a vindication of our local filth getting a paltry hand slap when breaking the law by comitting considerably more reckless acts (U turns at road crests) than using a cell phone when driving.

See

I was meaning what people were comparing this particular incident to. Quite different situations imo

scumdog
20th February 2013, 17:11
Aww Fuck. NZ police have just fallen off the bottom rung of the ladder imo. Fucking dirty lowlife cock sucker. He should have been made example of. Cunts get off rape and assault charges routinely as well. That's the end of any slack I will cut them and the last vestiges of any respect or sympathy. Cowardly lying two faced cunts. Fuck all of you pigs that read this. You should be afuckingshamed to be part of such a corrupt moral culture. I'm damned sure I would be telling them to shove their job because I couldn't bear to be part of something so fucking vile. Until you do you are just fucking cunts.

From the sheeple to the filth.

Fuck, if that's how Kbers behave and rant they can get fucked, they're all cunts and shouldn't expect ME to cut them any slack if I stop them, fuckin' self-rightious pedantic morons all of you, I'm out of here and you're all fuckin' self-centred 'look-how-good-I-ride' full of your own shit wankers, you all deseve a Honda.
Fags.

SMOKEU
20th February 2013, 18:04
So who are you going to call when someone breaks into your house?

ducatilover
20th February 2013, 18:59
you all deseve a Honda.
Fags.

Is that one between us all, or one each?

ducatilover
20th February 2013, 19:00
So who are you going to call when someone breaks into your house?


http://www.parconline.biz/photoart/images/20060929110728_img_0023.jpg

cheshirecat
20th February 2013, 19:20
Is that one between us all, or one each?
Can I have the RC166

phill-k
20th February 2013, 19:40
Just one or three facts for u

"U" turn was commenced approximately 65mtrs from the crest of the hill, at 100km stopping distance on a motorcycle on a dry road is approximately 96mtrs.

Avoidance at less than 40kms should have been easy, if not chances of survival should have been.

Very doubtful that at a collision rate of approximately 40kms a rider would upon a sudden stop fly 70 further mtrs and impact a tree.

Oh and its a pointless point but the rode code requires you to proceed at a speed where by you can stop in half the visible distance ahead.

Final fact on a bike a fuckup often really is.

ducatilover
20th February 2013, 19:56
Can I have the RC166 No, mine!


at 100km stopping distance on a motorcycle on a dry road is approximately 96mtrs.



Wait, whut? Is that with a GN250 and a 2s reaction time?

willytheekid
20th February 2013, 20:07
So who are you going to call when someone breaks into your house?

http://nz4.ediy.co.nz/gcimages/157380.jpg
...They have to special order the ammo in for my "home security system" :msn-wink:

Besides....have you ever called the Popo for such things?..same answer every time! -"I'm sorry sir, all of our officers are busy collecting revenue at this time" :killingme

imac
20th February 2013, 21:03
Oh and its a pointless point but the rode code requires you to proceed at a speed where by you can stop in half the visible distance


Only if the road is not marked with a center line

SMOKEU
20th February 2013, 21:40
...They have to special order the ammo in for my "home security system" :msn-wink:

Besides....have you ever called the Popo for such things?..same answer every time! -"I'm sorry sir, all of our officers are busy collecting revenue at this time" :killingme

Unfortunately our laws don't allow self defence with such force.

scumdog
20th February 2013, 22:13
Besides....have you ever called the Popo for such things?..same answer every time! -"I'm sorry sir, all of our officers are busy collecting revenue at this time" :killingme

Well if you scooter-cretins would slow down we wouldn't be so preoccupied....

willytheekid
21st February 2013, 07:34
Well if you scooter-cretins would slow down we wouldn't be so preoccupied....

Slow down?...Christ sake scummy...if I rode any slower, I'd have to buy a harley like yours!:killingme :innocent:

"scooter-cretins"?:eek5:..."you all deseve a Honda-Fags":oi-grr: <-This!, coming from a man who is known to have worn arseless chaps! & tassels!:nya: :killingme

...hay!!...hang on:confused:....I DO own a Honda!:crazy: :facepalm: (can I borrow ya Chaps?...chap)


And the sad truth is....Dosn't matter how hard you guys work...or how many actual Crims you catch....NZ's so called "justice system" will ensure all that hard work is wasted, as they either get a slap on the wrist, or there fines wiped! (can you please start arresting Judges for blatant incompetance?...Or what about shooting a few criminal defence lawyers??...Im more than happy to pay for the ammo!:yes:)

Stay safe scummy :love: (keep up the good work mate..."some" of us actually respect you for it...and have taken several beatings backin you donut eaters up!...and will happily do so again!*:niceone:)


*please note...Im getting old and slow...you can take out the big ones from now on lol

Zedder
21st February 2013, 08:11
Slow down?...Christ sake scummy...if I rode any slower, I'd have to buy a harley like yours!:killingme :innocent:

"scooter-cretins"?:eek5:..."you all deseve a Honda-Fags":oi-grr: <-This!, coming from a man who is known to have worn arseless chaps! & tassels!:nya: :killingme

...hay!!...hang on:confused:....I DO own a Honda!:crazy: :facepalm: (can I borrow ya Chaps?...chap)


And the sad truth is....Dosn't matter how hard you guys work...or how many actual Crims you catch....NZ's so called "justice system" will ensure all that hard work is wasted, as they either get a slap on the wrist, or there fines wiped! (can you please start arresting Judges for blatant incompetance?...Or what about shooting a few criminal defence lawyers??...Im more than happy to pay for the ammo!:yes:)

Stay safe scummy :love: (keep up the good work mate..."some" of us actually respect you for it...and have taken several beatings backin you donut eaters up!...and will happily do so again!*:niceone:)


*please note...Im getting old and slow...you can take out the big ones from now on lol

"and have taken several beatings backin you donut eaters up!" WtF willytheekid? Some people get beaten up for backing the cops?!? Bloody pathetic!

willytheekid
21st February 2013, 08:42
"and have taken several beatings backin you donut eaters up!" WtF willytheekid? Some people get beaten up for backing the cops?!? Bloody pathetic!
Explanation:
I worked in and ran bars & nightclubs all around NZ for 14yrs mate...I saw the Popo dealing with ALOT of drunken louts!...and some times...they NEEDED the help!:

When the two Popo in manchester st CHCh got jumped by 7 gutless skin heads(for no reason), the poor police lady got knocked out cold, and they where kicking the shit out of her partner (on the ground!!...fucking cowards!)...Myself and my door man ran over and "intervened"....Im just a skinny little white boy...but for about 12yrs I had the pleasure of learning 3 styles of martial arts (I sure as shit aint no bruce lee tho...lost far too many fights to claim that lol)...but I can look after myself..and others in need!

Everyone else on manchester st just stood there and watched those poor bloody cops nearly get killed...we didnt!...copped a few, got a cracked rib, but managaed to put the biggest peice of shit straight through cash converters main window, and my door man was one of the best in ChCh...he was just having fun and not holding ANYTHING back :crazy:

Thats just ONE of the many occassions Ive had to roll around on the ground to assist the police when arseholes have out numbered them and they have required a hand...and sure, sometimes...we have lost the fight and ended up in A&E bleeding and aching together while having a laugh at each others injuries :lol:

But I Will NEVER stand by and watch cowards attack people!...and no fucking way will I stand back and watch the popo be attacked by scum!..they deserve respect for the prick of a job they do, and certainly do not deserve to be attacked for doing there job!

So yeah mate...several beatings taken for them...but we won more than we lost!

...and I'm damn proud of doing it! (But my missus has told me Im not allowed to just "jump in" anymore...old, partially crippled and have kids now....but I honestly don't see it stopping me if the need ever arises again...Im stupid remember lol)
http://rlv.zcache.com/beaten_up_sticker-p217449629960729770envb3_400.jpg

flyingcrocodile46
21st February 2013, 09:07
Explanation:
I worked in and ran bars & nightclubs all around NZ for 14yrs mate...I saw the Popo dealing with ALOT of drunken louts!...and some times...they NEEDED the help!:

When the two Popo in manchester st CHCh got jumped by 7 gutless skin heads(for no reason), the poor police lady got knocked out cold, and they where kicking the shit out of her partner (on the ground!!...fucking cowards!)...Myself and my door man ran over and "intervened"....Im just a skinny little white boy...but for about 12yrs I had the pleasure of learning 3 styles of martial arts (I sure as shit aint no bruce lee tho...lost far too many fights to claim that lol)...but I can look after myself..and others in need!

Everyone else on manchester st just stood there and watched those poor bloody cops nearly get killed...we didnt!...copped a few, got a cracked rib, but managaed to put the biggest peice of shit straight through cash converters main window, and my door man was one of the best in ChCh...he was just having fun and not holding ANYTHING back :crazy:

Thats just ONE of the many occassions Ive had to roll around on the ground to assist the police when arseholes have out numbered them and they have required a hand...and sure, sometimes...we have lost the fight and ended up in A&E bleeding and aching together while having a laugh at each others injuries :lol:

But I Will NEVER stand by and watch cowards attack people!...and no fucking way will I stand back and watch the popo be attacked by scum!..they deserve respect for the prick of a job they do, and certainly do not deserve to be attacked for doing there job!

So yeah mate...several beatings taken for them...but we won more than we lost!

...and I'm damn proud of doing it! (But my missus has told me Im not allowed to just "jump in" anymore...old, partially crippled and have kids now....but I honestly don't see it stopping me if the need ever arises again...Im stupid remember lol)


I can identify with that as I also have fought alongside cops in brawls when they have been outnumbered. But that was back when it didn't hurt as much and I was confident that I was helping the good guys. Now days I can't be sure. I don't want to help a rapist, bully or someone who falsifies evidence, so I doubt I would as I would first have to be confident that they were a good person.

ducatilover
21st February 2013, 09:20
I DO own a Honda!:crazy: :facepalm:
http://vineyardlifejournal.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/how-you-doin.jpg?w=538

willytheekid
21st February 2013, 09:23
I can identify with that as I also have fought alongside cops in brawls when they have been outnumbered. But that was back when it didn't hurt as much and I was confident that I was helping the good guys. Now days I can't be sure. I don't want to help a rapist, bully or someone who falsifies evidence, so I doubt I would as I would first have to be confident that they were a good person.

Sure, there are some bad apples in the police force (Met a few!)
But the popo have a prick of a job!, and deserve respect for serving there communities.

I have friends & family in the force...my Uncle was ex popo...dunners CIB, he volunteered to help out on the west coast during some big event they had on...his reward for donating his time and helping out?
...he walked into a bar and got struck on the head with a steal bar stool as soon as he entered:(....that incident left him fighting for his life and in a medically induced coma!...he could never return to front line work after that.
But what I remember of that incident was the amazing support the police gave to his family...they stood by him, and went above and beyond for there work mate in his time of need....that speaks volumes about the force and the people in it as far as Im concerned.

Some people hate the police...thats there call, Me?...I have nothing but respect for them! (altho I do like giving scummy & rastuscat a bit o friendly shit lol)
The police just do there job, they don't make the rules or the law, they are just paid (bugger all!) to enforce other peoples decisions...even if they don't agree with it.

Please, Don't let the bad apples blind you from the fact that most popo...are genuinely very nice people:yes:, who try there absolute best to do there job well, and serve there communitys as best as they can, despite all the shit they put up with.

...and bad popo, usually get sorted out internally :msn-wink:...nobody likes to work with a prick! (especially when they wear the same uniform as you)

Stay safe FC, and try to focus on the good ones...and just ignore the bad:niceone:

willytheekid
21st February 2013, 09:31
[QUOTE=ducatilover;1130503958[/QUOTE]
:eek:
SEE!!!...its true
http://www.ohiocycle.com/honda.gif
:killingme
Besides, RC36's don't have a rainbow power band!...just a yummy gear driven V4 that make ya smile....in a manly way!...not gay at all...honest!!:baby:


...damnit...SCUMMY!!!...may need those Chaps mate :crazy:

ducatilover
21st February 2013, 09:43
I'll let you off because it's an RC36, if you take me on a romantic date

willytheekid
21st February 2013, 10:12
I'll let you off because it's an RC36, if you take me on a romantic date

:eek:...DEAL!

Can't get any more "romantic" than this! :niceone:

Christchurch Classic Japanese Motorcycle Show. 17 March 2013
http://www.cjmg.org.nz/?page_id=1756

...wear something "fitting", but greasy! :msn-wink:

:killingme


(ya mad bugger, take care DL)

ducatilover
21st February 2013, 10:14
:eek:...DEAL!

Can't get any more "romantic" than this! :niceone:

Christchurch Classic Japanese Motorcycle Show. 17 March 2013
http://www.cjmg.org.nz/?page_id=1756

...wear something "fitting", but greasy! :msn-wink:

:killingme


(ya mad bugger, take care DL)
I better finish me bikes :D

Zedder
21st February 2013, 13:30
[QUOTE=willytheekid;1130503941]Explanation:
I worked in and ran bars & nightclubs all around NZ for 14yrs mate...I saw the Popo dealing with ALOT of drunken louts!...and some times...they NEEDED the help!:

When the two Popo in manchester st CHCh got jumped by 7 gutless skin heads(for no reason), the poor police lady got knocked out cold, and they where kicking the shit out of her partner (on the ground!!...fucking cowards!)...Myself and my door man ran over and "intervened"....Im just a skinny little white boy...but for about 12yrs I had the pleasure of learning 3 styles of martial arts (I sure as shit aint no bruce lee tho...lost far too many fights to claim that lol)...but I can look after myself..and others in need!

Everyone else on manchester st just stood there and watched those poor bloody cops nearly get killed...we didnt!...copped a few, got a cracked rib, but managaed to put the biggest peice of shit straight through cash converters main window, and my door man was one of the best in ChCh...he was just having fun and not holding ANYTHING back :crazy:

Thats just ONE of the many occassions Ive had to roll around on the ground to assist the police when arseholes have out numbered them and they have required a hand...and sure, sometimes...we have lost the fight and ended up in A&E bleeding and aching together while having a laugh at each others injuries :lol:

But I Will NEVER stand by and watch cowards attack people!...and no fucking way will I stand back and watch the popo be attacked by scum!..they deserve respect for the prick of a job they do, and certainly do not deserve to be attacked for doing there job!

So yeah mate...several beatings taken for them...but we won more than we lost!

...and I'm damn proud of doing it! (But my missus has told me Im not allowed to just "jump in" anymore...old, partially crippled and have kids now....but I honestly don't see it stopping me if the need ever arises again...Im stupid remember lol)

All good Wtk. Yep, I'd jump in too if needed to help out. I absolutely hate bullies (plus drug dealers and terrorists by the way) the Cops are human after all and as we know there's good and bad but, if someone's outnumbered and being beaten up who cares, and knows for that matter about their background.

Anyway, I've just got back from my usual Northern/East Coast circuit and interestingly enough had an unscheduled coffee break (police checkpoint) in a place called Kaukapakapa. Apparently, there's been a spate of crashes up that way that they're trying to get a handle on.

Of course they did the licence, WoF and rego checks which after being entered in the hand held device provided all the info about me that they needed. I got shown some details and funnily enough, my photo was from my firearms and not drivers licence.

But all in all very friendly and I had a good chat with the younger one about motorbikes and cars.

Banditbandit
21st February 2013, 13:41
Nope, different roles, different people. I have 100% admiration for all volunteers but not for special police. I have met many and never been impressed by their motivations to fulfill their community role.

plus volunteer firefighters fight real fires, volunteer paramedics save real lives. volunteer policemen ? not sure what they do of any use that any civil minded citizen does.



No again but that wasn't the point

"Specials" in New Zealand have largely been used as strike breakers (Waihi, 1913 waterfront strike .. )

For instance - go here .. http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/photograph/25295/masseys-cossacks

Scabs, bosses lackies and class enemies as far as I am concerned ..

Banditbandit
21st February 2013, 13:46
So who are you going to call ?

Ghost busters

Banditbandit
21st February 2013, 13:48
Fuck, if that's how Kbers behave and rant they can get fucked, they're all cunts and shouldn't expect ME to cut them any slack if I stop them, fuckin' self-rightious pedantic morons all of you, I'm out of here and you're all fuckin' self-centred 'look-how-good-I-ride' full of your own shit wankers, you all deseve a Honda.
Fags.

Fuck - we are not all that bad are we??? You are making the same mistake ... tarring us all with the same brush ... there's good and bad cops and good and bad kiwi bikers ...

Unfortunately we don't have an "ignore" setting for bad cops on the road ...

Katman
21st February 2013, 14:02
Fuck - we are not all that bad are we??? You are making the same mistake ... tarring us all with the same brush ... there's good and bad cops and good and bad kiwi bikers ...

Unfortunately we don't have an "ignore" setting for bad cops on the road ...

I think he was just 'making a point' in response to the flyingoctopus's post.

ducatilover
21st February 2013, 14:12
Unfortunately we don't have an "ignore" setting for bad cops on the road ...

Yeah we do, it's called a 'Busa.

Banditbandit
22nd February 2013, 09:11
Yeah we do, it's called a 'Busa.

Yeah ... Naaa bro ... I got caught by the radios a few weeks ago ... the cop who spotted and clocked me was a long way away by the time I came round a corner to find a cop sitting waiting ... even a 'busa can not beat the radio waves ..