Hi-vis unlikely to be compulsory for cyclists

[Zedder]

The last two lines are good:http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10865794

[SMOKEU]

If cagers are stupid enough to keep crashing into one another, then I don't see how high viz vests on cyclists will make any noticeable difference.

[Gremlin]

If cagers are stupid enough to keep crashing into one another, then I don't see how high viz vests on cyclists will make any noticeable difference.
Pah, how about those that pull out in front of trucks... or try to beat trains :eek: (of course, the train will swerve to avoid them, won't it?)

[BMWST?]

Pah, how about those that pull out in front of trucks... or try to beat trains :eek: (of course, the train will swerve to avoid them, won't it?)

no need for that G everyone knows that those trains can stop on a dime

[cheshirecat]

Probably more a comment on the effectiveness of the cycling lobby

[Zedder]

Probably more a comment on the effectiveness of the cycling lobby

Possibly so, given the new bylaw in Auckland potentially allowing two way cycling on one way streets.

[BMWST?]

Possibly so, given the new bylaw in Auckland potentially allowing two way cycling on one way streets.

that wont end well

[Zedder]

that wont end well

Maybe, but it shows how powerful the cycle lobby groups in Auckland are.

[Tigadee]

everyone knows that those trains can stop on a dime

I dunno... :scratch: Don't they use drum brakes?

[McFatty1000]

Two way cycles on one way streets could work ok? Given a separate path for the other direction?

[Berries]

Two way cycles on one way streets could work ok? Given a separate path for the other direction?
It is an issue that is being discussed in Dunedin at the moment. It's actually the only solution I can see working as I can't imagine anyone having the balls to stand up and take away all the parking that they would have to remove to fit a 'safe' cycle lane on the one way system any other way.

[Zedder]

It is an issue that is being discussed in Dunedin at the moment. It's actually the only solution I can see working as I can't imagine anyone having the balls to stand up and take away all the parking that they would have to remove to fit a 'safe' cycle lane on the one way system any other way.

A lane on opposite sides is one option for one way streets while another option, still under discussion, is to have the cycle lanes on the left handside of parked cars if it's a two way street.

[Berries]

There are lots of options, just most of them that retain an on street facility don't actually result in a 'safe' place to ride a push bike. Riding between the kerb and the parked cars is one of the options being looked at down here. I'm not convinced myself but hey, due to the helmet laws I won't ride a push bike in NZ anyway.

[Motig]

Hi viz- waste of time, wont make the motorist see any better. As for cycle lanes - all good if its included in new roading but trying to put cycle lanes on existing roads which were not designed for them = disaster for both rider and driver.

[Zedder]

There are lots of options, just most of them that retain an on street facility don't actually result in a 'safe' place to ride a push bike. Riding between the kerb and the parked cars is one of the options being looked at down here. I'm not convinced myself but hey, due to the helmet laws I won't ride a push bike in NZ anyway.

Interestingly enough, a cycle lobby group wants to scrap the helmet laws for adults because they say it's stopping people riding.

[Zedder]

Hi viz- waste of time, wont make the motorist see any better. As for cycle lanes - all good if its included in new roading but trying to put cycle lanes on existing roads which were not designed for them = disaster for both rider and driver.

The good thing is they have come to this conclusion about hi-viz not being the case for cyclists, so it's probable it will extend to motorcyclists.

[duckonin]

The good thing is they have come to this conclusion about hi-viz not being the case for cyclists, so it's probable it will extend to motorcyclists.

Would you like more time to think about your reply, was a bit rushed.

[Swoop]

Pah, how about those that pull out in front of trucks...
It is ironic that one person does this in wellytown and people are creating havoc because of it. How many times had he swerved in the same way and NOT had a large truck behind him?
Ride, cycle, drive "to the conditions".

[davereid]

I'm not convinced myself but hey, due to the helmet laws I won't ride a push bike in NZ anyway.

Apply for a helmet exemption. If you take the application seriously you will get one.

The NZ Medical association published a recent study that has said the compulsory helmet law is the worst public health legislation we have every had, and credits it with putting people of cycling so much that it results in 53 premature deaths a year.

[Berries]

I am not that desperate to find out how unfit I have become.

Which kind of proves what you are saying.