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[Mental Trousers]

If anyone wants to know what happened to the thread started by biggles it's been removed at the request of the Road Racer Commissioner for Motorcycling New Zealand.

Any complaints or other feedback please contact the Road Race Commissioner (acrfibreglass@actrix.co.nz)

[Crasherfromwayback]

If anyone wants to know what happened to the thread started by biggles it's been removed at the request of the Road Racer Commissioner for Motorcycling New Zealand.

Any complaints or other feedback please contact the Road Race Commissioner (acrfibreglass@actrix.co.nz)

How rude!!

[Maha]

How many men does it take to sweep something under the carpet...just one...:rolleyes:
Opss, this aint the joke thread is it? :lol:

[MIXONE]

Missed it bugger!

[scrivy]

I thought it was making progress......

[kiwifruit]

That's a shame. Shall we start another one?

[RobGassit]

Probably appropriate for any thread started by Biggles..:lol:

[slofox]

If that was the one about boozing and racing, I thought he had a point, meself...

[speights_bud]

If that was the one about boozing and racing, I thought he had a point, meself...

Hmmm missed the first thread, but on that note i did have a quick discussion with a few people about how breath testing would go down at riders briefing over the weekend... It seemed that a few of them thought it would definitely be a good idea, as they also thought it might provide some interesting results...

[swarfie]

If that was the one about boozing and racing, I thought he had a point, meself...

I saw some DOZY cow wandering around the pits with a bloody big dog on a leash (@ least it was on one I suppose) . We can police ourselves to some extent I guess but WTF is with some people's mentality that they see fit to bring a bloody dog along to a race meeting??? And what I want to know is how the hell the plonker on the gate allowed her to come into the circuit with it in the first place:mad::mad::mad:

[budda]

Good Job, Herr Von Billington ........ some folks were running out of corners to paint themselves and the rest of us into

[Skunk]

Hmmm missed the first thread, but on that note i did have a quick discussion with a few people about how breath testing would go down at riders briefing over the weekend... It seemed that a few of them thought it would definitely be a good idea, as they also thought it might provide some interesting results...
Vic Club has a breath tester and will use it if there is any suspicion. I logged on to read the thread and it's gone. Has anyone got a summary or is discussion not allowed?

[nodrog]

Marcus was probably drunk when he posted it anyway.

[nzmikey]

Hrrrmmm so whats there to hide ????

Seems like something to me ....... :tugger:

[Mental Trousers]

Vic Club has a breath tester and will use it if there is any suspicion. I logged on to read the thread and it's gone. Has anyone got a summary or is discussion not allowed?

As already stated, ask the Road Race Commissioner (acrfibreglass@actrix.co.nz). He'll give you the informed opinion, rather than the uninformed KB Clown version.

[scrivy]

Seriously??

I know some people wrote some shit, but painting oneself into a corner??

This is the internet, and one can write whatever one likes. Will authorities come down on what's written?? They have to prove the comments are true for a start!
FFS!!

Lets see, I drive at 240kms/hr to get to the track - oh, towing a trailer too. And drive without a seatbelt, while watching TV. I pass cars on the wrong side of the road. When racing I smoke 3 doobies before lunchtime, knock back 2 slabs by midnight, and have sex with goats, all whilst watching hardcore porn, and taking steroids.

Should I expect a knock on the door from police or Nazis tonight?? FFS!! I mean really!
I thought the discussion of safety from the people that race was a good thread. There were some legitimate discussion posts in there. Alot of topics were covered too. Some cannot be swept under the carpet. There are some that do need to be addressed pronto.

I guess now they wont be addressed. Is that good for the sport in general??

[Madness]

Time & place ladies, with an emphasis on the time bit.

Nice work Mr Trousers.

[Billy]

Seriously??

I know some people wrote some shit, but painting oneself into a corner??

This is the internet, and one can write whatever one likes. Will authorities come down on what's written?? They have to prove the comments are true for a start!
FFS!!

Lets see, I drive at 240kms/hr to get to the track - oh, towing a trailer too. And drive without a seatbelt, while watching TV. I pass cars on the wrong side of the road. When racing I smoke 3 doobies before lunchtime, knock back 2 slabs by midnight, and have sex with goats, all whilst watching hardcore porn, and taking steroids.

Should I expect a knock on the door from police or Nazis tonight?? FFS!! I mean really!
I thought the discussion of safety from the people that race was a good thread. There were some legitimate discussion posts in there. Alot of topics were covered too. Some cannot be swept under the carpet. There are some that do need to be addressed pronto.

I guess now they wont be addressed. Is that good for the sport in general??

Nothing being swept under the carpet here or anywhere else,If you really want to hear the reasoning behind the withdrawal,You can contact me direct,I have NO issue with frank discussion,But the fact of the matter is,If any MNZ member has an issue with safety,It should be reported in the first instance to the steward or the relevant commissioner first,Fair enough to go public if you dont get a reasonable response from them,I'll await your request and anybody else who wants one,Thats what we're here for.

[budda]

Seriously??

I know some people wrote some shit, but painting oneself into a corner??

This is the internet, and one can write whatever one likes. Will authorities come down on what's written?? They have to prove the comments are true for a start!
FFS!!

Lets see, I drive at 240kms/hr to get to the track - oh, towing a trailer too. And drive without a seatbelt, while watching TV. I pass cars on the wrong side of the road. When racing I smoke 3 doobies before lunchtime, knock back 2 slabs by midnight, and have sex with goats, all whilst watching hardcore porn, and taking steroids.

Should I expect a knock on the door from police or Nazis tonight?? FFS!! I mean really!
I thought the discussion of safety from the people that race was a good thread. There were some legitimate discussion posts in there. Alot of topics were covered too. Some cannot be swept under the carpet. There are some that do need to be addressed pronto.

I guess now they wont be addressed. Is that good for the sport in general??

Drop Billy a line ( or two ) This issue is NOT going away, it is now and has been for as long as I've been involved, on the live issues Agenda. Just not sensible to continue discussion on here at the moment.

Paragraph 3 is the list of required behaviours for Chair Guys isnt it ???????

[nzmikey]

Nothing being swept under the carpet here or anywhere else,If you really want to hear the reasoning behind the withdrawal,You can contact me direct,I have NO issue with frank discussion.

Ok .... send me an email then :)


I am keen to know ... no I aint taking the piss

[300weatherby]

Total crap!!!!!!

We live, supposedly, in a democratic society, one where we have the freedom of speech, for one person to decide that it is not suitable for people to openly discuss ANY...... issue they want to, is against MY personal rights.

1939 anyone?...........

Would quite like to have an "out in the open" answer as to why this person can order an open discussion shut down, and why the person obeying that order, did so.

Our right to free speech is being infringed against, that happens to be illegal in this country last time I looked.:ar15:

[scrivy]

Nothing being swept under the carpet here or anywhere else,If you really want to hear the reasoning behind the withdrawal,You can contact me direct,I have NO issue with frank discussion,But the fact of the matter is,If any MNZ member has an issue with safety,It should be reported in the first instance to the steward or the relevant commissioner first,Fair enough to go public if you dont get a reasonable response from them,I'll await your request and anybody else who wants one,Thats what we're here for.

Fair enough.
I would think an email or PM should be sent to people that ask for it though. Saves you fielding 20 phone calls!

Scrivy

[Billy]

Ok .... send me an email then :)


I am keen to know ... no I aint taking the piss

There"s a link above but mnzrrc@gmail.com or acrfibreglass@actrix.co.nz or 075745579 0212928400

[scrivy]

Would quite like to have an "out in the open" answer as to why this person can order an open discussion shut down, and why the person obeying that order, did so.

Our right to free speech is being infringed against, that happens to be illegal in this country last time I looked.:ar15:

Only problem though, is that this site is owned by a person, not a nation, and he has site rules...... he can do as he feels, so democracy in this case is nul and void.....

[merv]

Sheesh, you'd think this was the MNZ website forum.

Just surmising like, would you remove all of Robert Taylor's postings if the Labour Party got in touch with you about what he was saying as an example of similar behaviour?

[nzmikey]

There"s a link above but mnzrrc@gmail.com or acrfibreglass@actrix.co.nz or 075745579 0212928400

ok then you have mail in ya gmail account
:yes:

[FJRider]

You sir, have a lot of explaining to do.

I shall be in touch.

Why ... ??? doesn't he like to share them with you .. ???

[300weatherby]

Only problem though, is that this site is owned by a person, not a nation, and he has site rules...... he can do as he feels, so democracy in this case is nul and void.....

Never occured to me that this site was "owned", so presumably, the site "owner" could have told MNZ to bugger off, if it suited him to.

Why do MNZ fear or dislike open discussion?

[Mental Trousers]

Never occured to me that this site was "owned", so presumably, the site "owner" could have told MNZ to bugger off, if it suited him to.

Why do MNZ fear or dislike open discussion?

Why don't you ask the Road Race Commissioner (acrfibreglass@actrix.co.nz) and find out?? His details have appeared in this thread multiple times.

Yes, MNZ could've been told to push off but the request was perfectly reasonable, polite (as polite as Billy can be anyway haha) and the justification for doing so was excellent. If you want to find out what the reasons given were ...... (you should know this bit)

[crazy man]

That's a shame. Shall we start another one?will drink to that on race day

[Drew]

I was reading that thread very closely. I fully support it being deleted.

Online forums are not here for all and sundry to say the shit on there.

[300weatherby]

Why don't you ask the Road Race Commissioner (acrfibreglass@actrix.co.nz) and find out?? His details have appeared in this thread multiple times.

Yes, MNZ could've been told to push off but the request was perfectly reasonable, polite (as polite as Billy can be anyway haha) and the justification for doing so was excellent. If you want to find out what the reasons given were ...... (you should know this bit)

I can only assume there are politics going on here that are over my head, if the road race commissioner would in fact answer me if I contacted him, and if the answer was in fact entirely reasonable, why would it be a bridge too far to explain this to all?

Not even taking the piss or trolling here, something seems odd.........

[Madness]

I can only assume there are politics going on here that are over my head... something seems odd...

Click on settings at the top of the page & all will be revealed.

[Mental Trousers]

I can only assume there are politics going on here that are over my head, if the road race commissioner would in fact answer me if I contacted him, and if the answer was in fact entirely reasonable, why would it be a bridge too far to explain this to all?

Not even taking the piss or trolling here, something seems odd.........

Policy not to reply to masses on some free for all website where nobody is accountable for anything and anyone can say whatever they like maybe?? MNZ are justifiable to it's paying members, not the anonymous public.

[_Shrek_]

If anyone wants to know what happened to the thread started by biggles it's been removed at the request of the Road Racer Commissioner for Motorcycling New Zealand.

Any complaints or other feedback please contact the Road Race Commissioner (acrfibreglass@actrix.co.nz)


Policy not to reply to masses on some free for all website where nobody is accountable for anything and anyone can say whatever they like maybe?? MNZ are justifiable to it's paying members, not the anonymous public.

so I gather it's not worth asking or sending an e-mail if I'm not a member?

[300weatherby]

Click on settings at the top of the page & all will be revealed.

Ok I looked.

I can only assume that the original thread subject is related to that incident and current situation, and I would also assume the red rep is from you,( as that is the only rep related to this with "information" , if so, unfortunate that you feel giving red is the answer to being mildly pushy about freedom of speech. Am assuming there is an investigation in play, if that is the case, would it not be generally easier to simply say exactly that, and advise to all, that discussion on a public ( privately owned notwithstanding ) forum needs to be curtailed untill furthur notice.

I was completely unaware of the situation and it's connection to the original thread, and would not have disturbed the water had I known.

[Madness]

Ok I looked.

I can only assume that the original thread subject is related to that incident and current situation, and I would also assume the red rep is from you,( as that is the only rep related to this with "information" , if so, unfortunate that you feel giving red is the answer to being mildly pushy about freedom of speech. Am assuming there is an investigation in play, if that is the case, would it not be generally easier to simply say exactly that, and advise to all, that discussion on a public ( privately owned notwithstanding ) forum needs to be curtailed untill furthur notice.

I was completely unaware of the situation and it's connection to the original thread, and would not have disturbed the water had I known.

Perhaps just shutting the fuck up would be a good idea too?

[Drew]

so I gather it's not worth asking or sending an e-mail if I'm not a member?

You Will most likely get the same response as members.


Once more for the slow types, any suggestions Marcus or anyone has regarding racing should first be directed to MNZ. If he gets no joy or told to fuck off he can feel free to do whatever he wants.

Just looks stupid though when if he had of done that, there would have been no need for the thread.

Fuck, half the cunts bitching here didn't even see the thread to start with.

[RobGassit]

Marcus caught a dose of the Choppa virus. A short term of isolation should cure it. Worked for Chop.

[_Shrek_]

You Will most likely get the same response as members
Once more for the slow types, any suggestions Marcus or anyone has regarding racing should first be directed to MNZ. If he gets no joy or told to fuck off he can feel free to do whatever he wants.


fair call,

I use to be a marshal at the Gizzy battle of the streets a few years back......

[Mental Trousers]

so I gather it's not worth asking or sending an e-mail if I'm not a member?

I think you'll find he's happy to respond to any queries through official channels, but not on any uncontrolled forum.

[300weatherby]

Perhaps just shutting the fuck up would be a good idea too?

Mmmmm, I don't recall offering smart mouth in your direction, must be a Dorkland thing to respond to reasonable dialog in that manner.

You could bring your big tough jaffaland self down here and say that.........

Or alteranately, we could have a verbal joust right here, I'll give reasoned and considered jabs and thrusts (no, don't get exited, not what I ment!), and you can toss about with jaffaspeak:Pokey:

[_Shrek_]

I think you'll find he's happy to respond to any queries through official channels, but not on any uncontrolled forum.

cheers :apint:

[Madness]

Mmmmm, I don't recall offering smart mouth in your direction, must be a Dorkland thing to respond to reasonable dialog in that manner.

You could bring your big tough jaffaland self down here and say that.........

Or alteranately, we could have a verbal joust right here, I'll give reasoned and considered jabs and thrusts (no, don't get exited, not what I ment!), and you can toss about with jaffaspeak:Pokey:

Meh, I think I'll take my own advice and avoid further unnecessary speculation and mindless dribble. You should feel free to carry on like a big-mouthed twat and make all Cantabrians look like a bunch of neanderthal shit stains.

Thank you, come again.

[scracha]

Policy not to reply to masses on some free for all website where nobody is accountable for anything and anyone can say whatever they like maybe?? MNZ are justifiable to it's paying members, not the anonymous public.

But this isn't MNZ's site Shane? If I say bad things about rugby does the NZRU come on here and request you delete my threads?

[Mental Trousers]

But this isn't MNZ's site Shane? If I say bad things about rugby does the NZRU come on here and request you delete my threads?

Depends if I agree with the reasons they give for deleting it.

[wharfy]

But this isn't MNZ's site Shane? If I say bad things about rugby does the NZRU come on here and request you delete my threads?

They should !! don't you dare say bad things about Rugby !

[scracha]

Depends if I agree with the reasons they give for deleting it.

Rugby is ?
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=72688&d=1191796515

[wharfy]

Rugby is ?
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=72688&d=1191796515

Crouch, touch, pause.... engage !

[Kornholio]

But this isn't MNZ's site Shane? If I say bad things about rugby does the NZRU come on here and request you delete my threads?

No, but they should you Irish bastard :p

[Drew]

I see the wind has gone from the sails of indignance. Billy must have carple tunnel from replying to everyone's emails.

[sinfull]

Irish :p
Bwahahaha Doonnee mention football

[_Shrek_]

Depends if I agree with the reasons they give for deleting it.

got a reply.... good reason for deleting thread :niceone:



Crouch, touch, pause.... engage !

:nono: now it's Crouch, Touch, Set :corn:

[sidecar bob]

I saw some DOZY cow wandering around the pits with a bloody big dog on a leash (@ least it was on one I suppose) . We can police ourselves to some extent I guess but WTF is with some people's mentality that they see fit to bring a bloody dog along to a race meeting??? And what I want to know is how the hell the plonker on the gate allowed her to come into the circuit with it in the first place:mad::mad::mad:

I saw some guy lifting the sidewheel on his sidecar while coming down the backstraight, it looked very dangerous & should be immediately banned. He had a little girl on the side of it too. Somebodys daughter no doubt.

[sinfull]

I saw some guy lifting the sidewheel on his sidecar while coming down the backstraight, it looked very dangerous & should be immediately banned. He had a little girl on the side of it too. Somebodys daughter no doubt.
Well i used to bring my bitch to the track and no one stopped me !!!

She decided to stop coming in her own time (think it was the crash she didn't like seeing)

[swarfie]

I saw some guy lifting the sidewheel on his sidecar while coming down the backstraight, it looked very dangerous & should be immediately banned. He had a little girl on the side of it too. Somebodys daughter no doubt.

My heart felt sympathy goes out to those that can't get it up anymore :killingme

[Biggles08]

The thread was removed for very good reason and I agree it should have gone.

[sidecar bob]

The thread was removed for very good reason and I agree it should have gone.

Yep, I agree. We dont even need the suggestion of imposing any more unnesacarry rules upon ourselves, regardless of how well meaning the OP is.

[slowpoke]

Yeah....naaah. There was actually some reasonable discussion going on, and awareness within the racing community was being raised. If some posts crossed the line (whatever that is) delete said posts, don't remove the whole thread.

I'm out at work at the moment, listening/watching to Australian radio/TV and this was one of the stories last night:

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/breaking/16179043/sprintcar-star-fails-drug-test/

Timely much?

Many perceive lack of communication as a major problem within our sport and I don't believe stifling discussion helps. We seem to have to learn things individually rather than collectively.

Examples:

Vic Club of late has learned tragic lessons with riders not maintaining race pace, now highlighting the issue every meeting, yet down South I found myself on track with a rider trickling around for several laps with his hand up. I only found out later (no heads up given as I went out) he was allowed out to bed in a set brakes.

I also found myself lapping a slower rider in just 5 lap race, and he spoke to me after wards. His engine had twice cut out. He pulled off track each time, where he managed to restart, so pulled back on and resumed racing. Once, I can sorta understand, but twice?! I hate to think what would have happened if we'd come up on him as his engine died again, or as he pulled off/on track.

Nothing against these guys, they didn't know any different, which is my point. Awareness. Only way we become aware is by threads like the one that has been deleted. We don't get anything from MNZ except when they wish to tell us about awards for their website. Bugger the awards, communicate about some worthwhile stuff.

[sidecar bob]

I suspect your chum with the intermittent breakdown fault either did know different, or is stone deaf.
The MNZ steward made himself perfectly clear at the briefing.

[Deano]

Examples:

Vic Club of late has learned tragic lessons with riders not maintaining race pace, now highlighting the issue every meeting, yet down South I found myself on track with a rider trickling around for several laps with his hand up. I only found out later (no heads up given as I went out) he was allowed out to bed in a set brakes.


At least he had his hand up. The guy I hit didn't and cost me a week in hospital and a shot at the title. This was in bloody qualifying and he left the pit lane at the front of the field. Duh

[Billy]

Yeah....naaah. There was actually some reasonable discussion going on, and awareness within the racing community was being raised. If some posts crossed the line (whatever that is) delete said posts, don't remove the whole thread.

I'm out at work at the moment, listening/watching to Australian radio/TV and this was one of the stories last night:

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/breaking/16179043/sprintcar-star-fails-drug-test/

Timely much?

Many perceive lack of communication as a major problem within our sport and I don't believe stifling discussion helps. We seem to have to learn things individually rather than collectively.

Examples:

Vic Club of late has learned tragic lessons with riders not maintaining race pace, now highlighting the issue every meeting, yet down South I found myself on track with a rider trickling around for several laps with his hand up. I only found out later (no heads up given as I went out) he was allowed out to bed in a set brakes.

I also found myself lapping a slower rider in just 5 lap race, and he spoke to me after wards. His engine had twice cut out. He pulled off track each time, where he managed to restart, so pulled back on and resumed racing. Once, I can sorta understand, but twice?! I hate to think what would have happened if we'd come up on him as his engine died again, or as he pulled off/on track.

Nothing against these guys, they didn't know any different, which is my point. Awareness. Only way we become aware is by threads like the one that has been deleted. We don't get anything from MNZ except when they wish to tell us about awards for their website. Bugger the awards, communicate about some worthwhile stuff.

What a lot of old tripe Spud,The internet and any public forum is OBVIOUSLY not the place to have sensitive MNZ business discussed,READ THE RULEBOOK,Most of the information is already available either in there,Or in any supp regs approved by me as roadrace commissioner for any meetings held under an MNZ permit.

If you require any additional info and it is not already available on the MNZ website,Contact me at your first convenience,I am always available and ensure that any queries are followed up,As has been suggested by the moderator of this thread,To date 4 people have contacted me requesting info on the removal of the original thread,On hearing my reasoning ALL have agreed it was the right thing to do,Including the OP,Despite his rant on Facebook this morning about freedom of speech.

[slowpoke]

I suspect your chum with the intermittent breakdown fault either did know different, or is stone deaf.
The MNZ steward made himself perfectly clear at the briefing.

True, but it certainly wasn't made an issue the way Skunk and co drum it into us at Vic Club following previous tragedy's. It just struck me that the learnings at different clubs are vastly different. The scrutineer down there was right on the ball with filters wired correctly after the spill the previous year (wire pulling filter undone rather than done up), something which hasn't really been pushed up North. Hence my reference to individual rather than collective learning.

I realise these things are sensitive but it seems doubly tragic that these terrible events happen and we aren't able to learn anything from them. Twice I've been at a track in the last 12 or so months where crashes have resulted in the worst possible outcome. One I witnessed directly so I know in graphic detail exactly what happened, the other I haven't the faintest idea what went wrong. Rumour has it something mechanical, something I could be doing, or might do wrong myself

There is a completely understandable "now is not the time" sentiment..............but another time and further information never seems to eventuate. I guess this will be the same but it just seems to add to the tragedy that other comptitors aren't able to learn from it.

[307a]

I think you'll find he's happy to respond to any queries through official channels, but not on any uncontrolled forum.

Uncontrolled my arse :mad:

[RobGassit]

Hey look on the bright side of this guy's. At least now you are in no doubt as to who is running the show.

[Maha]

Hey look on the bright side of this guy's. At least now you are in no doubt as to who is running the show.

Alison Mau wants that thread about her being a lover of women removed...:baby:

[307a]

Alison Mau wants that thread about her being a lover of women removed...:baby:

I want your post remove wanker:msn-wink:

[307a]

I want your post remove wanker:msn-wink:

Fuck it remove all threads ever started

[Smifffy]

Alison Mau wants that thread about her being a lover of women removed...:baby:

Well, then I guess Alison could get in touch with MT, explain her reasoning, and if MT saw fit he could remove the thread. Same goes for the hypothetical NZRFU example. I guess if enough cry babies decided that they needed to vote with their feet, then perhaps a policy change could be in order.

I think the site is moderated fairly for the most part. In the realms of the hypothetical, what if the NZ Popo wanted all the cop threads deleted? Well so what if they did? For all the waaaaaing going on, 4 people so far have bothered to actually go to the trouble of following up in the way that was originally instructed. Apparently now that those people are in possession of the facts, they accept the removal.

[GrayWolf]

I was reading that thread very closely. I fully support it being deleted.

Online forums are not here for all and sundry to say the shit on there.

Oh the IRONY in THAT comment!

[SWERVE]

F**K me......... the thread discussing the removal of the thread is nearly as big again............. round and round in circles with lots of sarcasm and wit..... but very little valuable input. KB Rules

[Drew]

Uncontrolled my arse :mad:Do we know each other? You seem like the kinda guy I would have told to his face, "you're a fuckwit", and walked away.


Oh the IRONY in THAT comment!It's not lost, even on me.

But the fuckwit above said enough to have the thread shut down, even if Marcus didn't.

[Drew]

F**K me......... the thread discussing the removal of the thread is nearly as big again............. round and round in circles with lots of sarcasm and wit..... but very little valuable input. KB Rules
Whoa whoa whoa. What are you even on about?

Who said there was meant to be valuable input?

[slowpoke]

What a lot of old tripe Spud,The internet and any public forum is OBVIOUSLY not the place to have sensitive MNZ business discussed,READ THE RULEBOOK,Most of the information is already available either in there,Or in any supp regs approved by me as roadrace commissioner for any meetings held under an MNZ permit.

If you require any additional info and it is not already available on the MNZ website,Contact me at your first convenience,I am always available and ensure that any queries are followed up,As has been suggested by the moderator of this thread,To date 4 people have contacted me requesting info on the removal of the original thread,On hearing my reasoning ALL have agreed it was the right thing to do,Including the OP,Despite his rant on Facebook this morning about freedom of speech.

Take it how you will Billy, but the post was meant constructively.

Where in the rulebook does it tell me why I get emails from MNZ about a bullshit award for it's website but don't receive safety information or alerts/reminders or findings related to incidents? MNZ could/should have sent out an email highlighting the Mobil 98 issue for example, instead a competitor could easily rock up to HD or Taupo and repeat Choppa's innocent mistake.

No-one expects the full nitty gritty during sensitive times, but as it is we get virtually no information about anything, ever. I know MNZ has safety as one of it's primary goals, but they don't half make it hard for themselves through poor/zero communication.

[kiwifruit]

<img src="http://i.imgur.com/wCt2Hh6.jpg">

[Mental Trousers]

Well, then I guess Alison could get in touch with MT, explain her reasoning, and if MT saw fit he could remove the thread.

In that instance I'd require proof that she is, in fact, gay and that it is very damaging to her. Only lots of hot sweaty visual proof would be acceptable. Video is alright but live is preferable, about 2 hours worth just to make sure.


Same goes for the hypothetical NZRFU example. I guess if enough cry babies decided that they needed to vote with their feet, then perhaps a policy change could be in order.

The site owner has said a number of times, it doesn't matter how many people use this site it will still exist. If everybody leaves life just gets simper.


I think the site is moderated fairly for the most part.

Join some of the big American bike sites. Compared to them Moderation on here is non-existant.


In the realms of the hypothetical, what if the NZ Popo wanted all the cop threads deleted? Well so what if they did?

Every so often the cops on this site get the shits put up them from the higher up's and disappear. Calling a wanker a wanker is Conduct Unbecoming, even online.

However, the cops have never asked something like that, nor would they.


For all the waaaaaing going on, 4 people so far have bothered to actually go to the trouble of following up in the way that was originally instructed. Apparently now that those people are in possession of the facts, they accept the removal.

If you spam bullshit when in possession of the facts you're a hypocrite and nobody likes being a hypocrite so those 4 have probably moved on from this thread. I'm stumped why the rest like being uninformed blubbering wankers though.

[Maha]

''What did the screwdriver say to the Manbag''?

Do I look gay in this?

[jellywrestler]

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never go full retard. Tropic Thunder a couple of years back

[nodrog]

Whoa whoa whoa. What are you even on about?
.....

carbon dating, dinosaurs and shit.

[Scouse]

If anyone wants to know what happened to the thread started by biggles it's been removed at the request of the Road Racer Commissioner for Motorcycling New Zealand.

Any complaints or other feedback please contact the Road Race Commissioner (acrfibreglass@actrix.co.nz)Ha Biggles say no more. By the way did that full of himself little twat manage to suck anyone into paying for his and his girlfriends amature bike racing trip to Europe last year?

[Biggles08]

...Including the OP,Despite his rant on Facebook this morning about freedom of speech.

I was not going to post here anymore as I have taken your advice Graham and proceeded down the correct channels. However, for accuracy's sake, here's the definition of the word "Rant" from the oxford dictionary for you Graham...Going by your insistent slurs and obvious contempt at anything I write lately, I take it you are clearly hell bent on making sure everyone knows that you are the man. I get it.

Now if you would kindly refrain from attacking everything I do, write or say I would appreciate it.

For everyone Else's benefit, I merely provided a quote (and commented on it) from the Human Rights Commission website about free speech on my Facebook page which could hardly be called a "Rant."

Definition of rant
<section class="senseGroup">verb
[no object]

speak or shout at length in an angry, impassioned way: she was still ranting on about the unfairness of it all

</section><section class="senseGroup">noun


a spell of ranting; a tirade: his rants against organized religion

</section><section class="subEntryBlocks gradientified"><section class="subEntryBlock phrasesSubEntryBlock">Phrases
<dl><dt> rant and rave
shout and complain angrily and at length: stop ranting and raving for a minute and start being honest with yourself
</dt></dl></section>Origin:
</section>
late 16th century (in the sense 'behave boisterously'): from Dutch ranten 'talk nonsense, rave'

[Dave-]

haha I'm gutted I missed the original, but this thread delivers.

[307a]

Do we know each other? You seem like the kinda guy I would have told to his face, "you're a fuckwit", and walked away.

It's not lost, even on me.

But the fuckwit above said enough to have the thread shut down, even if Marcus didn't.

Yeah we know each other Drew and your right that's what you said the first time we met oh how thing never change.

Are you still shagging that tranny.

[307a]

Ha Biggles say now more. By the way did that full of himself little twat manage to suck anyone into paying for his and his girlfriend amature bike racing trip to Europe last year?

No he never did Steve it was all bullshit.

[307a]

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Nice hang bag Kiwifruit

[Billy]

I was not going to post here anymore as I have taken your advice Graham and proceeded down the correct channels. However, for accuracy's sake, here's the definition of the word "Rant" from the oxford dictionary for you Graham...Going by your insistent slurs and obvious contempt at anything I write lately, I take it you are clearly hell bent on making sure everyone knows that you are the man. I get it.

Now if you would kindly refrain from attacking everything I do, write or say I would appreciate it.

For everyone Else's benefit, I merely provided a quote (and commented on it) from the Human Rights Commission website about free speech on my Facebook page which could hardly be called a "Rant."

Definition of rant
<section class="senseGroup">verb
[no object]

speak or shout at length in an angry, impassioned way: she was still ranting on about the unfairness of it all

</section><section class="senseGroup">noun


a spell of ranting; a tirade: his rants against organized religion

</section><section class="subEntryBlocks gradientified"><section class="subEntryBlock phrasesSubEntryBlock">Phrases
<dl><dt> rant and rave
shout and complain angrily and at length: stop ranting and raving for a minute and start being honest with yourself
</dt></dl></section>Origin:
</section>
late 16th century (in the sense 'behave boisterously'): from Dutch ranten 'talk nonsense, rave'

Now,now Morris,Calm down,I was merely passing on the message as it was presented too me,By the people who had seen your comment and thought I should know about it,Why is really beyond me as I have no interest in the comments of a few anti MNZ activists,So to speak,Those who have bothered to contact me re the withdrawal of the afforementioned thread as well as a number of folks that were officiating last weekend,Are confident the right decision was made,Anybody who hasn't bothered to ask and have still formed an opinion,Are clearly ill informed or just plain muckraking.

As you were

[Billy]

Yep, I agree. We dont even need the suggestion of imposing any more unnesacarry rules upon ourselves, regardless of how well meaning the OP is.

Sadly it's to late to turn back the clock now and as it has been aired in the public arena,MNZ now have a duty of care to follow up on the issue presented,

I have been informed this morning that action will begin as soon as the necessary equipment can be purchased and an official suitably trained in the required area,Of course there will be a cost and that will have to be passed on to members.

Of course as I mentioned earlier,We already had the matter in hand and were working on a more affordable option in the way of a contractor,Unfortunately this may no longer meet the needs of any coronial inquests we may have to attend in the future

[Biggles08]

Now,now Morris,Calm down,I was merely passing on the message as it was presented too me,By the people who had seen your comment and thought I should know about it,Why is really beyond me as I have no interest in the comments of a few anti MNZ activists,So to speak,Those who have bothered to contact me re the withdrawal of the afforementioned thread as well as a number of folks that were officiating last weekend,Are confident the right decision was made,Anybody who hasn't bothered to ask and have still formed an opinion,Are clearly ill informed or just plain muckraking.

As you were

Are you accusing me of being a "Anti MNZ Activist?"

[kiwifruit]

Are you accusing me of being a "Anti MNZ Activist?"

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[sidecar bob]

Sadly it's to late to turn back the clock now and as it has been aired in the public arena,MNZ now have a duty of care to follow up on the issue presented,

I have been informed this morning that action will begin as soon as the necessary equipment can be purchased and an official suitably trained in the required area,Of course there will be a cost and that will have to be passed on to members.

Of course as I mentioned earlier,We already had the matter in hand and were working on a more affordable option in the way of a contractor,Unfortunately this may no longer meet the needs of any coronial inquests we may have to attend in the future

Surely the cheapest most effective method would be to ask at briefing "hands up anyone that got on the piss last night" anyone that puts their hand up is excluded from the meeting immediately, anyone that dosent, isint. Simple, inexpensive & duty of care carried out.
This is from the same guy that suggested that my kid's school should let seniors & juniors out 5 minutes apart to save 250k on building a new bigger pick up & drop off zone.

[Scouse]

No he never did Steve it was all bullshit.Is this my crazy namesake good to have you back buddy

[Drew]

Yeah we know each other Drew and your right that's what you said the first time we met oh how thing never change.

Are you still shagging that tranny.

I shagged a trannie?

Hmmm.

[Mental Trousers]

Is this my crazy namesake good to have you back buddy

Won't be for long though mate.

[RobGassit]

Hurry up with your posts guy's. This thread is about to be removed..

[scrivy]

I shagged a trannie?

Hmmm.

I think the correct answer would have been 'I was shagged by a trannie....' ,Drew. :lol:

[nodrog]

Choice
___________

[Billy]

Surely the cheapest most effective method would be to ask at briefing "hands up anyone that got on the piss last night" anyone that puts their hand up is excluded from the meeting immediately, anyone that dosent, isint. Simple, inexpensive & duty of care carried out.
This is from the same guy that suggested that my kid's school should let seniors & juniors out 5 minutes apart to save 250k on building a new bigger pick up & drop off zone.

Err,Yeah,I guess we could try...But

[Billy]

Are you accusing me of being a "Anti MNZ Activist?"

Not at all,Don't see how you worked that out,Time to let it go now Morris.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I shagged a trannie?



Shagging your brother is sick mate.

[GrayWolf]

Sadly it's to late to turn back the clock now and as it has been aired in the public arena,MNZ now have a duty of care to follow up on the issue presented,

I have been informed this morning that action will begin as soon as the necessary equipment can be purchased and an official suitably trained in the required area,Of course there will be a cost and that will have to be passed on to members.

Of course as I mentioned earlier,We already had the matter in hand and were working on a more affordable option in the way of a contractor,Unfortunately this may no longer meet the needs of any coronial inquests we may have to attend in the future

Hi Billy,
just a thought re 'testing' I work in a heavy industry which is Safety Critical (level1)... we have just introduced random drug/alcohol testing, however there was an existing policy of testing for ANY incident of the staff involved in an incident... an outside contractor performs this, and it is perfectly acceptable, even in the event of a Serious accident, or death involved in an incident. I dont see how if the testing is performed by a recognised contractor it would not be accepted at an inquest.
Random testing has a powerful effect in many ways.

[Drew]

Shagging your brother is sick mate.

I know.

I am amazed daily, that either of them get laid.

[sidecar bob]

Err,Yeah,I guess we could try...But

We just need to add a statment to the duty of care, saying that if any competitor or team member believes that they are currently temporaraly physically or mentally impaired, in any way that may affect their judgment, that they should not take part in the meeting.
This also covers things like the flu, and depression etc, for riders & supporters.

[Drew]

We just need to add a statment to the duty of care, saying that if any competitor or team member believes that they are currently temporaraly physically or mentally impaired, in any way that may affect their judgment, that they should not take part in the meeting.
This also covers things like the flu, and depression etc, for riders & supporters.

Dunno if it would be seen as 'actively working toward' drug and alcohol free racing though.

Safety regulations these days are worded non specifically, very deliberately so that should someone get hurt, a finger can be pointed nearly always.

[RobGassit]

I thought Jelly already was the independant contractor for all testing, and he does it for nothing. I doubt you would find anyone more dedicated.

[jellywrestler]

I thought Jelly already was the independant contractor for all testing, and he does it for nothing. I doubt you would find anyone more dedicated.

I can't deny my commitment in that area...

[Billy]

Hi Billy,
just a thought re 'testing' I work in a heavy industry which is Safety Critical (level1)... we have just introduced random drug/alcohol testing, however there was an existing policy of testing for ANY incident of the staff involved in an incident... an outside contractor performs this, and it is perfectly acceptable, even in the event of a Serious accident, or death involved in an incident. I dont see how if the testing is performed by a recognised contractor it would not be accepted at an inquest.
Random testing has a powerful effect in many ways.

Yeah,

That had already been looked into but it is more cost effective in the long run to purchase our own equipment,Not sure what has been arranged for the near future as it has now been taken out of my hands,To use a private contractor it costs around $90 per test,Good input though.

[sidecar bob]

To use a private contractor it costs around $90 per test.

You can forward the bill to bigglesracing@weneedmorerules.co.nz

[Billy]

You can forward the bill to bigglesracing@weneedmorerules.co.nz

BUGGER,I sent it to www.angryant.com,Oh well who cares as long as someone pays

[scrivy]

We just need to add a statment to the duty of care, saying that if any competitor or team member believes that they are currently temporaraly physically or mentally impaired, in any way that may affect their judgment, that they should not take part in the meeting.

BASTARD!
Don't you want me racing anymore???:(

[sidecar bob]

BASTARD!
Don't you want me racing anymore???:(

I said temporarily, not permanently, you should be ok based on that.

[Tony.OK]

BUGGER,I sent it to www.angryant.com,Oh well who cares as long as someone pays

From the outside of the sport looking in.............you are a hard person to read Billy. One minute you are trying to act with professionalism as RRC for MNZ and then you resort to kiddie comments like that? Works both ways when asking ppl not to dramatize in a forum does it not?

[Billy]

From the outside of the sport looking in.............you are a hard person to read Billy. One minute you are trying to act with professionalism as RRC for MNZ and then you resort to kiddie comments like that? Works both ways when asking ppl not to dramatize in a forum does it not?

My humblest apologies,It was a bit of light humor between myself and Sidecar Bob I thought,Still I'll await too see what his reply is to the comments youve made about his post I guess,Thats assuming you have actually commented on his post.

[RobGassit]

Who's going to be the first one to come up with a name for the new test? Worthy of it's own thread probably..Should it be named after the founder?

[scrivy]

Who's going to be the first one to come up with a name for the new test? Worthy of it's own thread probably..Should it be named after the founder?

The 'Who's going home test'?

The 'What a dickhead test'?

The 'I Can't handle my piss test'?

The 'Why can't I play anymore test'?

The 'I'll smoke weed instead test'?


Am I the first?? What do I win??

[Maha]

Perhaps MNZ should stick to what they know and not get caught up in what is said on the fucking internet.
MNZ are starting to look like a joke.......its the INTERNET! nobody cares :baby:

[sidecar bob]

From the outside of the sport looking in.............you are a hard person to read Billy. One minute you are trying to act with professionalism as RRC for MNZ and then you resort to kiddie comments like that? Works both ways when asking ppl not to dramatize in a forum does it not?
Oi, are you calling me a kiddie??
Lighten up & have a laugh FFS, Billy is "of the people", very approchable & aware of whats going on at grass roots, & if he isint, he picks up a phone & asks. Biggles & I are all good too.

[sidecar bob]

Perhaps MNZ should stick to what they know and not get caught up in what is said on the fucking internet.
MNZ are starting to look like a joke.......its the INTERNET! nobody cares :baby:

The internet is more serious than real life & everything on it is true.

[Maha]

The internet is more serious than real life & everything on it is true.

Im sure if the MNZ representative objects to my post, he will inform Admin and have it removed.

[Drew]

I'm reporting all you cunts for shaking my faith in the internet!

[Souther flags]

Drew shut up . Now please go and finnish your chair . Photo's would be good.

[Disco Dan]

What a load of whining rubbish.... I want the last ten minutes of my life back after reading this thread.

[Dave-]

When I become president of MNZ my whole account will have to be deleted.

as will all the threads I've posted in, including this one.

so enjoy it while it lasts bitches.

[Mental Trousers]

Perhaps MNZ should stick to what they know and not get caught up in what is said on the fucking internet.
MNZ are starting to look like a joke.......its the INTERNET! nobody cares :baby:

Yup <br>.

[sidecar bob]

I'm reporting all you cunts for shaking my faith in the internet!

Dont you be shakin my Faith on the internet either!! shes my receptionist

[Billy]

Im sure if the MNZ representative objects to my post, he will inform Adim and have it removed.

Absolutely not,Why would I,It means nothing to me and doesn't have any effect on the day to day running of the organisation and just reinforces the need for a closed forum.

Fill your boots.

[Maha]

Absolutely not,Why would I,It means nothing to me and doesn't have any effect on the day to day running of the organisation and just reinforces the need for a closed forum.

Fill your boots.

:psst:Understanding sarcasm not your strongest point?.
Is Disco Dan your sister?

[nodrog]

Dont you be shakin my Faith on the internet either!! shes my receptionist

Feel free to punch her old man in his ovaries though.

[Billy]

:psst:Understanding sarcasm not your strongest point?.

Err,Yip and yourself???

Of course if you want to get into a conversation about it you could ring,Email or PM me.

[Maha]

Err,Yip and yourself???

Of course if you want to get into a conversation about it you could ring,Email or PM me.

Wheres the fun in that, I would rather eveyone see whats going on, both sides of the story if you will.

[Deano]

All this slagging off on the internet. A lot of it from people who've never met.

I reckon what we need is a charity boxing/kick boxing/MMA match - all proceeds go towards a racers fund or something.

I can foresee some fucking awesome match ups. I know who's top of my list. :devil2:

[Maha]

All this slagging off on the internet. A lot of it from people who've never met.

I reckon what we need is a charity boxing/kick boxing/MMA match - all proceeds go towards a racers fund or something.

I can foresee some fucking awesome match ups. I know who's top of my list. :devil2:

They'll only spend it on piss..:clap:

[sidecar bob]

All this slagging off on the internet. A lot of it from people who've never met.

I reckon what we need is a charity boxing/kick boxing/MMA match - all proceeds go towards a racers fund or something.

I can foresee some fucking awesome match ups. I know who's top of my list. :devil2:

Never met??? I know all these homos only too well.

[scrivy]

Never met??? I know all these homos only too well.

How'd you know they were homos?? Were they sucking your dick at the time???? LOL!!!:lol::killingme

[Deano]

Never met??? I know all these homos only too well.

Yeah well I accepted a friend request on Facebook from the biggest KB cock smoker...I know, my fault but there were 28 mutual friends and I was probably drunk at the time.....you live and learn.

[Katman]

Are you still sulking Deano?

[Deano]

Don't flatter yourself.

[merv]

Are you still sulking Deano?

Surely he wasn't talking about you KM?

Now I'm not feeling flattered; you never sent me a friend request.

[Mom]

What a load of whining rubbish.... I want the last ten minutes of my life back after reading this thread.

10 mins to read a few page thread on KB? Slow much?

[bluninja]

This is a more interseting thread removal posthttp://media1.onsugar.com/files/2010/11/44/3/889/8893771/image_1528.preview.jpg

[Maha]

What a load of whining rubbish.... I want the last ten minutes of my life back after reading this thread.

''Why do you copy and paste the same fucking line in every thread?''

In two threads only I think you'll find......not every.
Shorten your skirt a little, you might get some action that way.

[suzuki21]

Who's going to be the first one to come up with a name for the new test? Worthy of it's own thread probably..Should it be named after the founder?

The equipment shall be called "the Billy". We can then be asked at any time to........................ blow Billy.

[307a]

All this slagging off on the internet. A lot of it from people who've never met.

I reckon what we need is a charity boxing/kick boxing/MMA match - all proceeds go towards a racers fund or something.

I can foresee some fucking awesome match ups. I know who's top of my list. :devil2:

Lets goooo Deano !!! You organise it and we can fight !!

I will knock you the fuck out lol.

[jasonu]

If anyone wants to know what happened to the thread started by biggles it's been removed at the request of the Road Racer Commissioner for Motorcycling New Zealand.

Any complaints or other feedback please contact the Road Race Commissioner (acrfibreglass@actrix.co.nz)

Removing the thread will create more fuss than simply letting it die off naturally.

[Mental Trousers]

Removing the thread will create more fuss than simply letting it die off naturally.

So?? That's the MNZ Road Race Commissioners problem. If you want to provide some feedback then email him. His contact details are spread all over this thread.

[Maha]

It would have died naturally until someone gave it CPR...


Signed Caring Maha.
Sent from .................right behind you.

[wharfy]

Lets goooo Deano !!! You organise it and we can fight !!

I will knock you the fuck out lol.

Couple of questions:

1/ who are you ?

2/ What makes you think you are on Deano's list ? - There MUST be a story there !

[Smifffy]

Couple of questions:

1/ who are you ?

2/ What makes you think you are on Deano's list ? - There MUST be a story there !

Maybe Deano is on their list. Think of that? :devil2:

[307a]

Couple of questions:

1/ who are you ?

2/ What makes you think you are on Deano's list ? - There MUST be a story there !

Deano knows who I am.

[307a]

Maybe Deano is on their list. Think of that? :devil2:

Your all on my fckin list

[Smifffy]

Your all on my fckin list

This one then?

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[Drew]

Your all on my fckin list

Me too? I like to feel included.

[_Shrek_]

Your all on my fckin list

:scratch: but you in orks & me in banjo country!!! are we related or what