R1 on a quiet Friday

[scumdog]

Here I was at work on Friday arvo winding down for the week and what happens in my town?

2000 R1 + disqauly rider + excessive speed (no, not 53kph, more like double) in a built up area + car pulling out of drive-way = recipe for disaster.

Car driver sees R1 honkin' along thinks 'shee-it' and decides to stop just out of drive-way waiting for R1 to veer towards centre-line and go around him

R1 rider spears straight ahead into right front wheel of car - leaving skittery dotted black lines on road and a patch of oil at impact point. (And brown ones in his grunds no doubt)

R1 rooted, car not too flash and rider? - a variety of injuries and awaiitng a blood-alcohol test result.

And awaiting ACC pay-out too no doubt.

[Madness]

2000 R1 + disqauly rider + excessive speed (no, not 53kph, more like double) in a built up area + car pulling out of drive-way = recipe for disaster.

Car driver sees R1 honkin' along thinks 'shee-it' and decides to stop just out of drive-way waiting for R1 to veer towards centre-line and go around him

R1 rider spears straight ahead into right front wheel of car - leaving skittery dotted black lines on road and a patch of oil at impact point. (And brown ones in his grunds no doubt)

R1 rooted, car not too flash and rider? - a variety of injuries and awaiitng a blood-alcohol test result.

And awaiting ACC pay-out too no doubt.

Shit happens apparenlty :facepalm:

[DMNTD]

Shit happens apparenlty :facepalm:

Fark I hope the car's mirrors were ok too

[Madness]

Fark I hope the car's mirrors were ok too

Get back to work you slacker!

[Katman]

Fucking cagers.

[mashman]

Probably cops chasing him

[Coldrider]

'"I didn't see him.....he must have been going at least 100 clicks"

[awa355]

If the car was reversing, is he automaticaly in the wrong? regardless of the riders' state.

[Maha]

Target Fixation?...easily aviodable....noob!

[onearmedbandit]

Fucking cagers.

Cager? I take it you mean 'car driver'. Why was it his fault? It's people like you who always look to blame others and not look at your own actions. Take some personal responsibility for once.

[scumdog]

'"I didn't see him.....he must have been going at least 100 clicks"


1st wrong - 2nd bit correct.:yes:

He saw him alright - but when he realised the approach speed of the bike ('seemed to be doing about 100k') which was not visible until close as it was over a rise he stopped dead, right-angles to kerb with his rear wheels in the guttter and waiting for the bike to swoop around him and carry on...

[Berries]

To be fair, the weather conditions were atrocious at the time as you can see in the photo here. (http://www.odt.co.nz/regions/south-otago/246927/motorcyclist-injured-collision)

[FJRider]

1st wrong - 2nd bit correct.:yes:

He saw him alright - but when he realised the approach speed of the bike ('seemed to be doing about 100k') which was not visible until close as it was over a rise he stopped dead, right-angles to kerb with his rear wheels in the guttter and waiting for the bike to swoop around him and carry on...

The R1 rider a local ... ??

[Akzle]

maybe the cops just hadn't given him enough tickets to make him respect "the law"...

[fuknK1W1]

Probably cops chasing him
Err following :lol:


Shit happens apparenlty :facepalm:
It doesn't just HAPPEN arseholes make it happen:msn-wink:

[FJRider]

Probably cops chasing him

That's just silly talk ... the pursuit ended 30 seconds before he crashed ... :msn-wink:

[scumdog]

That's just silly talk ... the pursuit ended 30 seconds before he crashed ... :msn-wink:

We don't chase the effwits here - we KNOW they're going to crash so we wait until they do - THEN we turn up, more time to eat donuts..

And saves all that hoopla about 'should we have chased them' blah-blah-blah....:msn-wink:

[mashman]

Err following :lol:

sorry yes, that's what I meant :innocent:


That's just silly talk ... the pursuit ended 30 seconds before he crashed ... :msn-wink:

So it's his own fault then?

[sinfull]

Bloody jappa riders, giving the rest of us a bad name !!

[awayatc]

did he wave?...........

[\m/]

Love the early R1s, shame to see them wrecked by fuckwits.

[tigertim20]

fuckin dickhead! older R1s are getting scarce and he goes and wrecks one!

[Nova.]

Probably cops chasing him

No No, they pulled off 3-4 minutes earlier because they decided it was too dangerous to continue to pursue him...... yeah right

[Smifffy]

Was the R1 registered (licensed for the pedants)?

[scumdog]

Was the R1 registered (licensed for the pedants)?


I think so - he had bought it about 2- 3 weeks before.

[scumdog]

No No, they pulled off 3-4 minutes earlier because they decided it was too dangerous to continue to pursue him...... yeah right

There was a persuit??

Well ambo never told us THAT.

All we got was 'car v motorbike at...one injured'

So the 'yeah right' is on you troll...

[Nova.]

There was a persuit??

Well ambo never told us THAT.

All we got was 'car v motorbike at...one injured'

So the 'yeah right' is on you troll...

yes that's what you want us to think.

[awayatc]

bikes only crash when being pursued. ............Tui

[FJRider]

bikes only crash when being pursued. ............Tui

Probably just showing off to all the school girls. I doubt if he'll do it again though ... :lol:

[Drew]

Serious crash unit said he has traveling at 100kph? I thought they didn't like to estimate bike speeds because there are too many variables to have a clue?

R1 boy is a squid. Hope he recovers to tell others they need to slow down around town though.

[willytheekid]

:crazy:...ouch!

..."I CALL DIBS ON HIS GUMBOOTS!" *(I would say gloves or gear...but he's not wearing any...oh well...matches his riding style:innocent:)

the bloody twat!...those R1's are a great bike!...and getting rare as hen's teeth thanks to people like this

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/20572070.jpg

[SVboy]

yes that's what you want us to think.

Grow a brain 'tard.

[ducatilover]

Biker being a diddle.
Driver being a diddle.

Scummy, fine them all for being dumb fucks.
Waste of an R1.

[jim.cox]

+ excessive speed (no, not 53kph, more like double).


Well ambo never told us THAT. All we got was 'car v motorbike at...one injured'

So just how do you know he was speeding?

I think the car driver might have been telling porkies to save his bacon....

[JimO]

So just how do you know he was speeding?

I think the car driver might have been telling porkies to save his bacon....
probably the 30 witnesses that saw and heard him

[MIXONE]

probably the 30 witnesses that saw and heard him

What the whole town was out and about?:eek:

[scumdog]

probably the 30 witnesses that saw and heard him

JimO 1
jim.cox 0

[Drew]

JimO 1
jim.cox 0

How accurately could anyone gauge the speed of a bike I wonder though.

I'm not onside with the rider, so don't start flaming me for being one the morons who want to blame anyone but him. I just wouldn't trust witness reports of speed, as far as I could throw said witnesses.

In all likelyhood the estimates are on the low side, an R1 is good for 140kph in first gear after all. I just don't think any inaccurate information should be admissible.

[scumdog]

How accurately could anyone gauge the speed of a bike I wonder though.

I'm not onside with the rider, so don't start flaming me for being one the morons who want to blame anyone but him. I just wouldn't trust witness reports of speed, as far as I could throw said witnesses.

In all likelyhood the estimates are on the low side, an R1 is good for 140kph in first gear after all. I just don't think any inaccurate information should be admissible.

Anything is admissible on KB - after all you post here:lol:

But the guy was doing a semi-stoppie trying to stop - his rear wheel was leaving a black strip on the road each time it touched down.

And from first touch to impact was 43 metres.

So I doubt he was doing 50kph.

[Akzle]

What the whole town/family* was out and about?:eek:

fixed for ya.

[scumdog]

fixed for ya.

Big call comin' from where you do....

[Drew]

Anything is admissible on KB - after all you post here:lol:

But the guy was doing a semi-stoppie trying to stop - his rear wheel was leaving a black strip on the road each time it touched down.

And from first touch to impact was 43 metres.

So I doubt he was doing 50kph.I know damn well the guy was going faster than 50k's.

I'm not trying to wind anyone up, not trying to defend anything, I am merely asking the question.

This is KB, and I my question was more about what would happen come time for charges to be laid in the real world.

[scumdog]

In all likelyhood the estimates are on the low side, an R1 is good for 140kph in first gear after all. I just don't think any inaccurate information should be admissible.

Charges?
Apart from riding when he already had his licence cancelled and possibly pissed there's enough info coming through (and not just for the crash) to lead to a dangerous driving charge.

\not that it matters but when he DID have a licence it was a 1R.

[FJRider]

And from first touch to impact was 43 metres.

So I doubt he was doing 50kph.

Skidmark could have done it ... :2thumbsup

[ducatilover]

Skidmark could have done it ... :2thumbsup

:lol: on a fucked ZXR in 2m!

[Akzle]

Big call comin' from where you do....

my uncle and dad are two different people...how many of you can say that

[Drew]

Charges?
Apart from riding when he already had his licence cancelled and possibly pissed there's enough info coming through (and not just for the crash) to lead to a dangerous driving charge.

\not that it matters but when he DID have a licence it was a 1R.I'm sure if the judge is feeling cranky, his suspension total will exceed 12 months, and the fellow will need to go through the entire licence process from scratch. Doubt it'll change much though.

[GTRMAN]

Biker being a diddle.
Driver being a diddle.

Scummy, fine them all for being dumb fucks.
Waste of an R1.


I didn't know anyone outside of my 4 year old nephew called anyone diddles any more....


Love a work, great word

[GTRMAN]

my uncle and dad are two different people...how many of you can say that

So your mum is also your aunty then....

[SVboy]

my uncle and dad are two different people...how many of you can say that

Didnt your mum say you had LOTS of "uncles". And Uncle dad is not a real name either.....

[Akzle]

So your mum is also your aunty then....
and my sister, too. work that one out...

Didnt your mum say you had LOTS of "uncles". And Uncle dad is not a real name either.....
yes,:cry: but they had to come 'round to help her out, since poppa went to the shop to get some milk in '76.:weep: he'll be back though, i know he will, then you'll be sorry. you'll all be sorry...

[GTRMAN]

and my sister, too. work that one out...

yes,:cry: but they had to come 'round to help her out, since poppa went to the shop to get some milk in '76.:weep: he'll be back though, i know he will, then you'll be sorry. you'll all be sorry...

Yeah that's right forest, he's on vacation....

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[scumdog]

Nek Minnit a Honda 1100 cruiser arsed off the road in the Manuka Gorge the following day.

Too long since last ride (decades) on a borrowed bike, veered to far to the left on a right-hand bend, hit loose grit on the left of the fog-line and ta-da, shower of gravel and bits of bike and he came to rest.:eek5:

Bump on head (a tad concussed) and lots of gravel rash where his jeans failed to handle the friction.:pinch:

Jacket and gloves saved the rest of him.

[tigertim20]

back to the R1, how badly fucked is it?

[scumdog]

back to the R1, how badly fucked is it?

Unridable to say the least - good for parts at first glance

[tigertim20]

Unridable to say the least - good for parts at first glance

hmmm, parts.

[ducatilover]

hmmm, parts.

I could do with an early R1.

hinty-fuckin-hint

[tigertim20]

I could do with an early R1.

hinty-fuckin-hint

probably best you buy one already fucked then, save you the physical pain of endo-ing it yourself . . .:2thumbsup

[ducatilover]

I think I left myself open to that one lol

[Jantar]

Anything is admissible on KB - after all you post here:lol:

But the guy was doing a semi-stoppie trying to stop - his rear wheel was leaving a black strip on the road each time it touched down.

And from first touch to impact was 43 metres.

So I doubt he was doing 50kph.

Ok, I've just punched this data into a calculator. An experienced rider on good tyres on a dry surface, and with a perfect braking technique would stop in 43 meters from 100 kmh at 0.9G.

The same rider travelling at 120 kmh would still be doing 66.3 kmh at impact.

However it sounds like he wasn't an experienced rider, so lets work on only 0.5 G.

From 100 kmh he would still be doing 66.3 kmh at impact, the same as an experienced rider at 120 kmh.
To stop in 43 m the inexperienced rider would have to be going no more than 74 kmh.

So my guess is that the police estimate of 100+ would be fairly close to the mark.

[Rhys]

Ok, I've just punched this data into a calculator. An experienced rider on good tyres on a dry surface, and with a perfect braking technique would stop in 43 meters from 100 kmh at 0.9G.

The same rider travelling at 120 kmh would still be doing 66.3 kmh at impact.

However it sounds like he wasn't an experienced rider, so lets work on only 0.5 G.

From 100 kmh he would still be doing 66.3 kmh at impact, the same as an experienced rider at 120 kmh.
To stop in 43 m the inexperienced rider would have to be going no more than 74 kmh.

So my guess is that the police estimate of 100+ would be fairly accurateclose to the mark.

shows how much variation there can be calculating speeds!