One of the top racers in the world

[Maido]

Looks like Sandra has really improved....

"As one of the top motorcycle racers in the world, Sandra brings an edge to the Speed and Strength brand that we've been looking for,"

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Mar/130305a.htm

[Goblin]

LMFAO
Wonder what sort of "relationship" they hope to build.

[White trash]

Hope they've got deep fucken pockets.

[Robert Taylor]

Looks like Sandra has really improved....

"As one of the top motorcycle racers in the world, Sandra brings an edge to the Speed and Strength brand that we've been looking for,"

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Mar/130305a.htm

Maybe now the trail of bad debts that were left in NZ can be retired, with interest.

[merv]

Maybe now the trail of bad debts that were left in NZ can be retired, with interest.

Maybe people actually believe you Robert when you talk right wing stuff about the "free" market - free is free isn't it, no one pays lol?

[gripper]

And they say its a man's world

[Edbear]

And they say its a man's world

That's just a sop to our ego's... ;)

[Crasherfromwayback]

On an XR1200 no less. I reckon I could punt a Harley harder than her.

[MIXONE]

On an XR1200 no less. I reckon I could punt a Harley harder than her.

And probable crash it less...

[SWERVE]

MSS/Bathams Kawasaki had to pull out of BSB this year due to finances (they have been a BSB team for as long as i can remember) and look whos been riding/crashing their bikes for a couple of seasons......... maybe the damage fund wasnt big enough.
Classic example of "talkin the talk" but not "walkin the walk"

[Crasherfromwayback]

And probable crash it less...

Not so sure about that bit...

[sugilite]

You guys being a bit harsh, I'm sure she bends over backwards for her sponsors, and forwards, and sideways and....

[merv]

How many KBers have ever got to race at the Daytona Speedway no matter what type of bike they were to ride?

In other threads on here questions are asked about how to get people to watch the sport - I am sure more Sandras would help immensely to generate interest - but no, many people on here just complain.

[Kiwi Graham]

To win it first you have to be in it.....err no better not go there

First you have to enter............err oops

If you want it bad enough.........oh I give up..


Anyway she has managed to achieve what many of us could only dream of doing in championships very few of us have a chance of entering (no pun intended)
I suspect similar results will follow but good on her for giving this racing milarky a full crack of the whip ;)

[merv]

You could help Sandra out and buy some of her offerings:

Calendar http://www.sandrastammova.com/sandra-stammova-calendar-2013-10-c.asp

Jeans http://www.sandrastammova.com/bull-it-covec-jeans-16-c.asp

Casual tops http://www.sandrastammova.com/casual-tops-and-t-shirts-12-c.asp

Kevlar reinforced tops http://www.sandrastammova.com/kevlar-reinforced-tops-13-c.asp

I don't see even Craig Shirriffs making such offerings to his fans.

[Str8 Jacket]

Seriously Merv, while she is ambituos her talent hasn't caught up, yet........

[merv]

Seriously Merv, while she is ambituos her talent hasn't caught up, yet........

Haha, but nor has Rossi's :cool:

Crasher's mate Casey told us so lol.

[steveyb]

On an XR1200 no less. I reckon I could punt her harder than a Harley.


You missed typed it. Fixed it.
No need to thank me.

[steveyb]

Twist of the Wrist Class 101.
Top photo on the calendar.
When cornering look at your left hand, that will guide your bike to where it needs to be.
In the scrap bin, literally.

What a total joke. Cheque book racing (or other types of cheques).
Total cynicism here.

[gripper]

You could help Sandra out and buy some of her offerings:

Calendar http://www.sandrastammova.com/sandra-stammova-calendar-2013-10-c.asp

Jeans http://www.sandrastammova.com/bull-it-covec-jeans-16-c.asp

Casual tops http://www.sandrastammova.com/casual-tops-and-t-shirts-12-c.asp

Kevlar reinforced tops http://www.sandrastammova.com/kevlar-reinforced-tops-13-c.asp
I don't see even Craig Shirriffs making such offerings to his fans.

Id buy some Craig sherriffs signed crutchless undies ! .....

If sidesaddle bob hadn't got them all

[Crasherfromwayback]

You missed typed it. Fixed it.
No need to thank me.

I don't find her that hot funnily enough.

[SWERVE]

Dont think anyone is using her for her riding talent. Just as a publicity machine......... and fair do,s...... the chick on a bike (or bike on a bike) thing does get its fair share of publicity.
And she ends up touring the world on someone elses cheque book. I would say she has done well at that at least.

[gammaguy]

Maybe people actually believe you Robert when you talk right wing stuff about the "free" market - free is free isn't it, no one pays lol?

Erm.....that's not quite what it means......

[ducatilover]

:facepalm: sad thing is she'd out ride me

[wharfy]

Twist of the Wrist Class 101.
Top photo on the calendar.
When cornering look at your left hand, that will guide your bike to where it needs to be.
In the scrap bin, literally.

What a total joke. Cheque book racing (or other types of cheques).
Total cynicism here.

Well she might not be doing it YOUR way - but she is doing it !!
Good on her I say

[merv]

Id buy some Craig sherriffs signed crutchless undies ! .....

If sidesaddle bob hadn't got them all

You'd want his name embroidered on them, but spelt right wouldn't you?

[gripper]

You'd want his name embroidered on them, but spelt right wouldn't you?

Spelling shmelling

[steveyb]

Good on her I say

An area where we will have to disagree.
While you know, much to Dr Taylors chagrin, I espouse certain socialist philosophies, along with a mix of socio-capitalism, in the top levels of sport, which the AMA suggests they are, I believe firmly in the notion of merit and a meritocracy.
I am not naive enough to understand that seats cannot be purchased (with whatever currency you wish to use), but does not mean I will like, support or condone it.

[scrivy]

Id buy some Craig sherriffs signed crutchless undies ! .....

If sidesaddle bob hadn't got them all

WTF????? ...and you called Bob gay??? PMSL!! :nya::killingme

Besides, weren't you going to race a sidecar again - so that would make you gay too?? :pinch:

[Kickaha]

I don't find her that hot funnily enough.

I was right, you really are gay

[Katman]

I am not naive enough to understand that seats cannot be purchased (with whatever currency you wish to use), but does not mean I will like, support or condone it.

Shakey ground there Steve.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I was right, you really are gay

Am not. :(

[MVnut]

You guys all need to grow up and stop being such tossers, at least she is competing at Daytona, I wish her well

[merv]

You guys all need to grow up and stop being such tossers, at least she is competing at Daytona, I wish her well

Yep agree, and how many Kiwis have done that besides Anderson, Perry, Avant, Croz, Slight, Bernard, Holden and Stroud?

Me, I've only driven and walked on the beach.

[SWERVE]

Thought she was Czech.
NZ was just a stoppover.

[Crasherfromwayback]

You guys all need to grow up and stop being such tossers, at least she is competing at Daytona, I wish her well

You wanna stop wanking over a slightly male looking chick that talks her way into racing in classes she has no right in racing in. She's more often than not a danger to anyone sharing the track with her. What's so fucking good about that?

[Robert Taylor]

Thought she was Czech.
NZ was just a stoppover.

A stopover with a trail of debts yes. For those reasons I cannot wish anyone well thats been proven to be less than sincere with the way they use peoples money. I just deplore 'users' full stop. Unfortunately we have a few of those in our own woodpile but thankfully most people are sincere

[Mental Trousers]

You guys all need to grow up and stop being such tossers, at least she is competing at Daytona, I wish her well

Yep agree, and how many Kiwis have done that besides Anderson, Perry, Avant, Croz, Slight, Bernard, Holden and Stroud?

Me, I've only driven and walked on the beach.

She does nothing good for the sport of motorbike racing. Leaving a trail of burnt race teams, sponsors and companies fucks things up for everyone else. The fact she gets to trash yet another bike, this time at Daytona, isn't a good thing.

[GSVR]

A stopover with a trail of debts yes. For those reasons I cannot wish anyone well thats been proven to be less than sincere with the way they use peoples money. I just deplore 'users' full stop. Unfortunately we have a few of those in our own woodpile but thankfully most people are sincere

Think of it as an investment that didn't work out. Kinda like Solid Energy and Biofuel.

[White trash]

She does nothing good for the sport of motorbike racing. Leaving a trail of burnt race teams, sponsors and companies fucks things up for everyone else. The fact she gets to trash yet another bike, this time at Daytona, isn't a good thing.

Too true. Unfortunately, I'm as green as fuck of all the opportunities Sandra continues to be offered, shame about all the bridges she continuously burns. There's plenty of extremely talented and sponsor worthy women racing bikes (Elena Myers, Avalon Biddle, Courtenay Duncan etc), let's hope the Stamova effect doesn't fuck it for more of them to come through.

[scrivy]

Too true. Unfortunately, I'm as green as fuck of all the opportunities Sandra continues to be offered, shame about all the bridges she continuously burns. There's plenty of extremely talented and sponsor worthy women racing bikes (Elena Myers, Avalon Biddle, Courtenay Duncan etc), let's hope the Stamova effect doesn't fuck it for more of them to come through.

You're just jealous you don't have tits......:lol:

[Tony.OK]

Next stop.........MotoGP.

[malcy25]

Next stop.........MotoGP.

S'funny, the one conversation she had at me, "was see you in Motogp"!

[gripper]

You wanna stop wanking over a slightly male looking chick that talks her way into racing in classes she has no right in racing in. She's more often than not a danger to anyone sharing the track with her. What's so fucking good about that?

agree %100

[Goblin]

You're just jealous you don't have tits......:lol:

Oh yes he does, quite a nice pair too....:killingme Perhaps if he flaunted them more often he might get more rides.

[jellywrestler]

Yep agree, and how many Kiwis have done that besides Anderson, Perry, Avant, Croz, Slight, Bernard, Holden and Stroud?

Me, I've only driven and walked on the beach.

Dont think Bernard ever got to ride at Daytona, he did spend nine years in the states racing though

[jellywrestler]

agree %100

17 posts and you're losing your touch already!

[scrivy]

17 posts and you're losing your touch already!

Dude...... His login says he's touching it all the time......

[sidecar bob]

Oh yes he does, quite a nice pair too....:killingme Perhaps if he flaunted them more often he might get more rides.

Eww, those are just horrible!!, they need bigger nipples, the sticky upy bit, not the roundy roundy bit.

[Billy]

Dont think Bernard ever got to ride at Daytona, he did spend nine years in the states racing though

Yip,He did,Finished 2nd.

[merv]

Dont think Bernard ever got to ride at Daytona, he did spend nine years in the states racing though


... and there was me trusting MNZ's roll of honour records http://mnz.edev.co.nz/docs/about-us/roh-1990-1999D9D0D3DD428F.pdf?sfvrsn=2

Bernard was the only one I looked up, the others I followed them at the time whereas Bernard was such a low key guy it seemed to me I never would have known where he was racing. No doubt there have been others in recent times old blokes like me haven't bothered following either that others might be able to name.

Only point I was making really was that but a few NZers have had or been given the opportunity to race at Daytona and now the person of whom this thread is about is getting that opportunity while from a smallish country, Slovakia. I hope she does well as not many we know get to do that - the high banking and all.

[sugilite]

... and there was me trusting MNZ's roll of honour records http://mnz.edev.co.nz/docs/about-us/roh-1990-1999D9D0D3DD428F.pdf?sfvrsn=2

Only point I was making really was that but a few NZers have had or been given the opportunity to race at Daytona and now the person of whom this thread is about is getting that opportunity while from a smallish country, Slovakia. I hope she does well as not many we know get to do that - the high banking and all.

Hey Merv, I get what your saying, I really do. I think what others that know of her antics and were burned by her dishonesty are feeling she neither deserves, nor has earned the right to be there in the 1st place.

[merv]

Hey Merv, I get what your saying, I really do. I think what others that know of her antics and were burned by her dishonesty are feeling she neither deserves, nor has earned the right to be there in the 1st place.

Lol, she must be a whirlwind if she did that much in the short time she was here.

You boys seen the latest video?

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[wharfy]

Hey Merv, I get what your saying, I really do. I think what others that know of her antics and were burned by her dishonesty are feeling she neither deserves, nor has earned the right to be there in the 1st place.

It's probably a good thing that people don't get what they deserve - or there would be fuck all people on KiwiBiker :)

[sugilite]

Watched the video, seeing her with what I'm guessing is the team owner sporting a (for now) big grin on his face as she leans into him, pretty much shows she still running the same mode of operation :lol:
And yes, my understanding is she burned a trail of destruction of bikes and other peoples wallets in her short stay in NZ.
Judging from her team mates needless bouncing of the motor off the rev limiter, she is in the right team!

[ducatilover]

Sounds like she's errr quite exciting then?
I take it from the comments, she bins bikes all over the show and just fucks off somewhere else?

How do I get that job?

[Mental Trousers]

Watched the video, seeing her with what I'm guessing is the team owner sporting a (for now) big grin on his face as she leans into him, pretty much shows she still running the same mode of operation :lol:
And yes, my understanding is she burned a trail of destruction of bikes and other peoples wallets in her short stay in NZ.
Judging from her team mates needless bouncing of the motor off the rev limiter, she is in the right team!

That fact she's now got a ride in the States tends to indicate she did it in the British scene as well.

[Tony.OK]

That fact she's now got a ride in the States tends to indicate she did it in the British scene as well.

I watched all of BSB superstock for the last 2 seasons and never saw her finish in any placing, let alone even get mentioned. Couldn't find any results either.
When she was announced as a team rider there the blurb made out she was a top contender/finisher in NZ SBK's. Now she's one of the top in the world?

No one is obviously doing any homework before hiring her.
She's a nice enough chick, talked with her briefly at Manfeild once, then made sure once I'd passed her on track I got well clear, didn't want to be taken out to be honest.

But whatever she has/does, it's gotta be fuckin great!
She's a lucky girl, getting those rides...........can't be anything but envious. I just hope she has matured as a racer to not destroy, mame at all costs like she has done in the past.

[Katman]

The power of the pussy is astounding sometimes.

[SWERVE]

There are some shots on the net of her time at MSS Clochester/Bathams Kawasaki on the 1000 superstock. One shows here in a slide that will only end in one outcome
Another shows her doing a stoppie to aviod hitting her team mate up the arse............ (in the pit exit road!!!!)
I cant be sure but i think more than once she failed to make the grid due to destroying the bike in either practice or qualifying.
And as i said earlier the team are absent from the BSB grid this year for the fisrt time since it was formed i believe. Whete
her or not she had anything to do with that who knows. Team owner and genuine good bloke Nick Morgan still seems to support her since she left.......... so he obviously must have thoughtt the whole exercise was worth it.
I wouls say there is a few stories from the BSB pits that would make good listening knowing some of those guys..............

[scrivy]

There are some shots on the net of her time at MSS Clochester/Bathams Kawasaki on the 1000 superstock. One shows here in a slide that will only end in one outcome
Another shows her doing a stoppie to aviod hitting her team mate up the arse............ (in the pit exit road!!!!)
I cant be sure but i think more than once she failed to make the grid due to destroying the bike in either practice or qualifying.
And as i said earlier the team are absent from the BSB grid this year for the fisrt time since it was formed i believe. Whete
her or not she had anything to do with that who knows. Team owner and genuine good bloke Nick Morgan still seems to support her since she left.......... so he obviously must have thoughtt the whole exercise was worth it.
I wouls say there is a few stories from the BSB pits that would make good listening knowing some of those guys..............

I've never complained about a bad blowjob...............
You can turn the light off or close your eyes if she's ugly....... Still same result......

[Katman]

I've never complained about a bad blowjob...............


Do you swallow?

[roadracingoldfart]

I was right, you really are gay

No hes just confused and vulnerable.


You guys all need to grow up and stop being such tossers, at least she is competing at Daytona, I wish her well

Do you have tits and the ability to find happy endings ? then Daytona is out of reach.


Next stop.........MotoGP.

Your a dick , she started there .


I've never complained about a bad blowjob...............
You can turn the light off or close your eyes if she's ugly....... Still same result......

There is always a level headed bugger in the wings somewhere waiting to show us all up , well done Skrivy you get the accolade.

[scrivy]

Do you swallow?

Want the end sewn back on???

[Katman]

Want the end sewn back on???

Nah, I've got plenty more where that came from.

[snapoff]

she likes it in the butt hard ,she hasnt finshed a race yet in 5 years ,if you have money or it looks like you have money ,she will grab you knob and jam it in her butt to get a free ride

[steveyb]

she likes it in the butt hard ,she hasnt finshed a race yet in 5 years ,if you have money or it looks like you have money ,she will grab you knob and jam it in her butt to get a free ride

Proof dammit, proof!!! Still, video, hell even audio will do, but we need proof!!
You can't go making wild accusations like that on here without proof dammit!!


Well, you can, but the pics would be good too......

[scrivy]

Proof dammit, proof!!! Still, video, hell even audio will do, but we need proof!!
You can't go making wild accusations like that on here without proof dammit!!


Well, you can, but the pics would be good too......

Sheessshhhhh............ and I thought I was sick........:eek5:

[gixerracer]

Proof dammit, proof!!! Still, video, hell even audio will do, but we need proof!!
You can't go making wild accusations like that on here without proof dammit!!


Well, you can, but the pics would be good too......

Ask Bobbie bugdn and Stauffer, not sure if it was both at the same time:clap:

[sidecar bob]

Ask Bobbie bugdn and Stauffer, not sure if it was both at the same time:clap:

You need to be absolutely sure before accusing a hoe of anal D.P.

[SWERVE]

You need to be absolutely sure before accusing a hoe of anal D.P.

This is KB..................... you dont need PROOF of anything............. but agree with Steve B . Visual proof would satisfy any doubts:lol:

[sugilite]

This is KB..................... you dont need PROOF of anything............. but agree with Steve B . Visual proof would satisfy any doubts:lol:



Well, you can, but the pics would be good too......

Here you go guys, she found the right cycle courier to take her to the HRC office to negotiate a motogp ride.

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[sidecar bob]

The power of the pussy is astounding sometimes.

As it turns out, it now looks more likely that its bum hole rather than pussy. Its rather fascinating that it seems to have more power than pussy though.

[lukemillar]

I watched all of BSB superstock for the last 2 seasons and never saw her finish in any placing, let alone even get mentioned. Couldn't find any results either.

I don't think she often made the 107% or 110% (whatever it is is BSB sstk). I was curious when she first joined the MSS Kawasaki team, but it seemed that when she wasn't crashing the bike, she just wasn't fast enough.

[SWERVE]

I don't think she often made the 107% or 110% (whatever it is is BSB sstk). I was curious when she first joined the MSS Kawasaki team, but it seemed that when she wasn't crashing the bike, she just wasn't fast enough.

TV ADVERT,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, "No surprises there then"

[merv]

TV ADVERT,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, "No surprises there then"

I watch with interest the silly turn into the depths this thread has taken.

Here's the result from her last BSB Superstock race last year at Brands Hatch - scroll down the page to Superstock 1000 http://www.britishsuperbike.com/media/831341/race_sat.pdf

I think one problem is its bloody competitive in UK - she finished a 16 lap race in 24th place, but only 16 seconds behind the winner. From what I saw for most of 2012 she was fast enough to make the % cutoff but they have a grid size cutoff which meant many times she didn't get to start. Now imagine that here if you could get over 50 riders attempt to qualify for a race.

Mylaps doesn't show the latest NZ Nationals as the last one it has up is Ruapuna . Note in the first 13 lap superbike race http://www.mylaps.com/results/showrun.jsp?id=2550830 Hayden Fitzgerald in 4th place was almost 14 seconds behind Robbie Bugden and and Nick Cole in 5th was over 21 seconds behind while Sloan Frost in 7th was almost 30 seconds behind and they were no better in the second race of 15 laps with Sloan Frost a DNF. So are they total losers for being so uncompetitive? Funny I never hear that talked about on here nor people saying "they must be taking it up the arse to get a ride when they are so useless" if you know what I'm saying.

Crikey I'm sure Katman can do the maths and see the logic of this.

Haha, and in this other thread http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/61003-What-would-bring-YOU-to-watch-a-race-meeting/page24 you boys are wondering what would bring more people to the races yet on this thread you talk in a way that would totally alienate half the population of NZ, namely the women. No wonder the sport is losing fans, they've got better things to do than idolise neanderthals.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I watch with interest the silly turn into the depths this thread has taken.

..

You've got it for her bad haven't you Merv....she's a waste of fucking space.

[merv]

You've got it for her bad haven't you Merv....she's a waste of fucking space.

Haha just pointing out some inconsistencies and you for one I thought were onto it enough to understand that.

[suzuki21]

Ask Bobbie bugdn and Stauffer, not sure if it was both at the same time:clap:

She bought home more girls than Mr Stauffer did.

[steveyb]

While this subject is getting way too much airplay (or waste of space play perhaps?), I think that from this saga there are good lessons to be learned by many people if you care to look for them. I am critical of this person, but for reasons (although I will take the piss when possible like anyone else) of quality rather than quantity.

It is clear that Sandra has a serious amount of athletic ability, confidence and toughness. However, she entered this (dangerous, and I should know) sport at a level that was inappropriate to her ability and experience. This caused all sorts of mayhem both on the track and off. This also caused significant chagrin from other competitors who had worked hard to learn the skills and were not getting the assistance she was from wherever it was coming.

If, on the other hand, she had arrived here, decided to go racing and had then entered the sport at a level appropriate to her skill and experience base and taken the time to develop those skills and acquire the experience, I for one have little doubt that she would actually be a really good racer by now and would have cost her backers significantly less money.

I for one cannot understand why so many people, not just her, think that they can jump on a Superbike after a few trackdays, or even years of road-riding, and then think that they can race it at a high level. Racing is not trackdays or road-riding.

She was a downhill skiier in a past life, with about the same record as her bike racing (I checked), but what she did here was the equivelent of knowing how to ride the learner slope then scoring a pair of skis, riding the lift to the top of the mountain and trying to ski down the black runs. It can only end in tears. How she did not get hurt is a matter for the gods of speed I suppose.

If she had taken a few seasons to learn and progress (e.g. 250 Proddy, Pro-Twin, 600 SStock then a Superbike) she would be doing well and we would ALL be applauding her achievements, I have NO doubt about that.

The other aspect is the self promotion and marketing. In NZ we are pretty shit at self promotion and really tend to dislike those who do it and do it well. We are a strange lot when it comes to that and even worse, when someone does want to do it they often don't because they are afraid that they will get knocked for doing so. Where Sandra is from (Europe) this is not the case and self promotion is one of the major tools in your toolbox, it is your loss if you don't use it. And we have to agree, she was/is pretty good at that side of the equation. Sure, she has some attributes that make it a bit easier to do it, but everyone has something they can promote, it isn't always a case of T & A. Hell, just being a Kiwi is a good start at this if you are marketing around the world.

So, sure, I am on the knocking bandwagon in this case, but only 'cos she pissed me off by not taking the time to learn the craft and by being seemingly unwilling to take advice in that regard. By crashing all the time. By being lucky to not get hurt or to hurt someone else. By blowing up engines because she was ignorant and had not spent the time learning what needed to be learned, then convincing people to fix it for her then going out and doing the exact same thing! By being so arrogant that she thought she knew it all but clearly didn't and wasn't willing to learn, but worst of all, by not really being able to demonstrate the abilities that I reckon she actually has.

So please take this as a "learn the lessons rant" rather than an anti-Sandra rant.

[roogazza]

I watch with interest the silly turn into the depths this thread has taken.

Here's the result from her last BSB Superstock race last year at Brands Hatch - scroll down the page to Superstock 1000 http://www.britishsuperbike.com/media/831341/race_sat.pdf

I think one problem is its bloody competitive in UK - she finished a 16 lap race in 24th place, but only 16 seconds behind the winner. From what I saw for most of 2012 she was fast enough to make the % cutoff but they have a grid size cutoff which meant many times she didn't get to start. Now imagine that here if you could get over 50 riders attempt to qualify for a race.

Mylaps doesn't show the latest NZ Nationals as the last one it has up is Ruapuna . Note in the first 13 lap superbike race http://www.mylaps.com/results/showrun.jsp?id=2550830 Hayden Fitzgerald in 4th place was almost 14 seconds behind Robbie Bugden and and Nick Cole in 5th was over 21 seconds behind while Sloan Frost in 7th was almost 30 seconds behind and they were no better in the second race of 15 laps with Sloan Frost a DNF. So are they total losers for being so uncompetitive? Funny I never hear that talked about on here nor people saying "they must be taking it up the arse to get a ride when they are so useless" if you know what I'm saying.

Crikey I'm sure Katman can do the maths and see the logic of this.

Haha, and in this other thread http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/61003-What-would-bring-YOU-to-watch-a-race-meeting/page24 you boys are wondering what would bring more people to the races yet on this thread you talk in a way that would totally alienate half the population of NZ, namely the women. No wonder the sport is losing fans, they've got better things to do than idolise neanderthals.

It's hard to argue with the numbers there Merv. I've only ever seen her in action once and thought she was pretty gutzy.

Is she really so different to the young bloke from Raumati heading over to Europe on nothing more than a belief ?
Good on them for taking the plunge and having a go.
But I think it's easy at the moment to judge yourself on the state of play here in NZ and miss read the levels overseas.

[Edbear]

It's hard to argue with the numbers there Merv. I've only ever seen her in action once and thought she was pretty gutzy.

Is she really so different to the young bloke from Raumati heading over to Europe on nothing more than a belief ?
Good on them for taking the plunge and having a go.
But I think it's easy at the moment to judge yourself on the state of play here in NZ and miss read the levels overseas.

True, but I think young Sam has no illusions about what he may discover over there and is going with the attitude of learning a lot from the experience.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Haha just pointing out some inconsistencies and you for one I thought were onto it enough to understand that.

I have no problem with that Merv. What I do have a problem with is people like her burning generous people and not seeming to give a shit.
Then repeating it over and over...

[Deano]

I think one problem is its bloody competitive in UK - she finished a 16 lap race in 24th place, but only 16 seconds behind the winner.

Hayden Fitzgerald in 4th place was almost 14 seconds behind Robbie Bugden and and Nick Cole in 5th was over 21 seconds behind while Sloan Frost in 7th was almost 30 seconds behind and they were no better in the second race of 15 laps with Sloan Frost a DNF. So are they total losers for being so uncompetitive? Funny I never hear that talked about on here nor people saying "they must be taking it up the arse to get a ride when they are so useless" if you know what I'm saying.





It's hard to argue with the numbers there Merv.
But I think it's easy at the moment to judge yourself on the state of play here in NZ and miss read the levels overseas.

I find it hard to believe she would be quicker than the likes of Hayden, Nick and Choppa.

[merv]

I find it hard to believe she would be quicker than the likes of Hayden, Nick and Choppa.

Personally I doubt she is too in the same race, but who knows now really. I was pointing out some interesting statistics. Wouldn't we love races where the first 24 finishers over 16 laps of a circuit with a minute 30 sec lap are all within 16 seconds at the end and all 31 finishers were covered by around 32 seconds. That is some close racing with big fields. That might attract a few more to the track to watch.

Some more stats for ya: At the last MotoGP race of the year in 2012 at Phillip Island crasher's boyfriend Casey won the race over 27 laps and was ahead of Gazza's boy in 7th spot by 37 seconds. The last two finishers on CRT bikes were lapped. The gaps are quite big but I'm not complaining as long as the Hondas win lol.

[snapoff]

How can she be a top level nz rider when u hant raced at a national race.

[Deano]

How can she be a top level nz rider when u hant raced at a national race.

Don't get Roogazza started mate ;)

[Mental Trousers]

... steveyb's terrible sensible explanation ...

This is KB, could you piss off with lot. Ta.

PS :niceone:

[steveyb]

Is she really so different to the young bloke from Raumati heading over to Europe on nothing more than a belief ?
Good on them for taking the plunge and having a go.
But I think it's easy at the moment to judge yourself on the state of play here in NZ and miss read the levels overseas.

She is completely different.
He is hardly heading over there on nothing more than a belief. That is pretty condesending really.
Sam has spent quite a few years learning how to ride and then how to race, and to race hard, but safe.
He has no illusions about jumping on a Superbike and trying to race at a national level.
AND, he is doing it on his, his family's and some helpful supporters dimes, not wrecking havoc on some race teams budget.
True, one can only know the level when you get in amongst it, but at least Sam is going there with the track and bike skills to be able to have a good go.

Completely different.

[koba]

She is bound to be better now than when she was crashing over here, years of experience racing with other people's money has to help skill levels.

I'm not sure if it's true but I've read that the pop group "the monkeys" could hardly play instruments when they were created, but pretending to be good for so long they actually learnt to play really quite well in the end.

Still, It's annoying to see the bare faced lies she has used in her 'self promotion'. It thank a lot of us have an issue wither her approach because of concepts like honesty and integrity.



It think to rock into a 'scene' with what amounts to false, or at best extremely exaggerated, credentials and expect the average punter with no better idea to lap it up is a sound strategy. I also think it's devious and disrespectful to other people who put time and effort into furthering the sport.

It's obviously worked well for her, "sweetener's" or not.

[suzuki21]

She is bound to be better now than when she was crashing over here, years of experience racing with other people's money has to help skill levels.



Um..................... no. She still destroys bikes. She has a screw loose and I wouldnt expect her to get any better.

[koba]

Um..................... no. She still destroys bikes. She has a screw loose and I wouldnt expect her to get any better.

I would expect her to get 'better', not good enough to foot it at the level she aims for but 'better' relative to being absolutely shit when she raced here for her 'top ten' or whatever finish out of something like 9 entrants for the NZ superbike champs.


Practice will always show some improvement, somewhere.
Maybe she's just getting better at destroying bikes.

[sidecar bob]

Um..................... no. She still destroys bikes. She has a screw loose and I wouldnt expect her to get any better.

Sounds like she has a few things loose then.

[roogazza]

I find it hard to believe she would be quicker than the likes of Hayden, Nick and Choppa.
I don't think anyone has said that, but looking at bike racing you could form an opinion she wasn't that far behind . However I would have liked to see her handle another class.

I would expect her to get 'better', not good enough to foot it at the level she aims for but 'better' relative to being absolutely shit when she raced here for her 'top ten' or whatever finish out of something like 9 entrants for the NZ superbike champs.

Exactly what I was talking about, come in tenth and think you've made it.
I don't know the woman, a few seem to though and don't give glowing opinions.
I am interested to see the posts if she happens to have a bit of luck in the Harley race.

[Robert Taylor]

um..................... No. She still destroys bikes. She has a screw loose and i wouldnt expect her to get any better.

indeed, and it wouldnt matter if she has got better. She also leaves a trail of bad debts and anyone who does that is not deserving of any help from anyone

[Edbear]

indeed, and it wouldnt matter if she has got better. She also leaves a trail of bad debts and anyone who does that is not deserving of any help from anyone

Sex sells... :msn-wink:

[roogazza]

She is completely different.
He is hardly heading over there on nothing more than a belief. That is pretty condesending really.
Sam has spent quite a few years learning how to ride and then how to race, and to race hard, but safe.
He has no illusions about jumping on a Superbike and trying to race at a national level.
AND, he is doing it on his, his family's and some helpful supporters dimes, not wrecking havoc on some race teams budget.
True, one can only know the level when you get in amongst it, but at least Sam is going there with the track and bike skills to be able to have a good go.

Completely different.

I don't know the kid and am only going on what I've heard. What is it, a win in 250 Kawasaki 4T class in 2011 ?
He must have an illusions to go surely, I put it better, as a belief.
Good on him but I'd like to see results in say 600s first. I see lots of talent in Europe, he's up against it. But hey Stoners old man did it !

[sidecar bob]

indeed, and it wouldnt matter if she has got better. She also leaves a trail of bad debts and anyone who does that is not deserving of any help from anyone

Fuckin Amen to that!!!

[Mental Trousers]

I don't know the kid and am only going on what I've heard. What is it, a win in 250 Kawasaki 4T class in 2011 ?
He must have an illusions to go surely, I put it better, as a belief.
Good on him but I'd like to see results in say 600s first. I see lots of talent in Europe, he's up against it. But hey Stoners old man did it !

As with Sandra you've failed to check him out and don't appear to know much at all about either of them.


Exactly what I was talking about, come in tenth and think you've made it.
I don't know the woman, a few seem to though and don't give glowing opinions.
I am interested to see the posts if she happens to have a bit of luck in the Harley race.

Opinions of people who have been burnt by her and witnessed the fallout of her exploits are extremely unlikely to change. Only those who don't know anything about how she got to where ever she does will think she deserves recognition.

[sugilite]

I see Sandra (one of the top racers in the World) managed to finish 21st out of 24 finishers in the Sportster 1200 race at Daytona. Best lap was 4.3 seconds slower than 1st places best lap.
http://www.vanceandhines.com/xr1200/

[Crasherfromwayback]

I see Sandra (one of the top racers in the World) managed to finish 21st out of 24 finishers in the Sportster 1200 race at Daytona. Best lap was 4.3 seconds slower than 1st places best lap.
http://www.vanceandhines.com/xr1200/

Racing Sportsters is fucking hard work mate! :-)

[Madness]

It's a bit gobby looking, innit?

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[merv]

I see Sandra (one of the top racers in the World) managed to finish 21st out of 24 finishers in the Sportster 1200 race at Daytona. Best lap was 4.3 seconds slower than 1st places best lap.
http://www.vanceandhines.com/xr1200/

Showing as 20th on the AMA site http://www.amaproracing.com/rr/events/results.cfm?year=2013&eid=2013011305&discipline=RR&class=XR&type=F&rnum=1&class_sort=all. Someone must have gotten excluded but I can't be arsed figuring out who.

Hey at least she finished on first attempt at a difficult track.

More impressive is the two chicks who made top ten in the 200, Elena Myers and Melissa Paris http://www.amaproracing.com/rr/events/results.cfm?year=2013&eid=2013011305&discipline=RR&class=DS&type=F&rnum=1&class_sort=all

Even they were over 3 seconds a lap slower than the fastest riders, so its not an easy game eh. Ask any CRT rider in MotoGP and don't get crasher started on them again.

[steveyb]

Immensely successful British SuperBike competitors such as Sandra Stammova and Luke Mossey will make the trip across the Atlantic to compete on American asphalt for the first time in their careers. Stammova, a British SuperBike sensation, will be racing a Rossmeyer’s Harley-Davidson in the Vance & Hines Harley-Davidson Series at Daytona.

Just goes to show ya shouldn't believe anything you read eh?

[sugilite]

Showing as 20th on the AMA site http://www.amaproracing.com/rr/events/results.cfm?year=2013&eid=2013011305&discipline=RR&class=XR&type=F&rnum=1&class_sort=all.

Hey at least she finished on first attempt at a difficult track.

More impressive is the two chicks who made top ten in the 200, Elena Myers and Melissa Paris http://www.amaproracing.com/rr/events/results.cfm?year=2013&eid=2013011305&discipline=RR&class=DS&type=F&rnum=1&class_sort=all

Even they were over 3 seconds a lap slower than the fastest riders, so its not an easy game eh.

I think the telling numbers are the 1st 11 riders fastest laps were all within 1/2 a second of each other. That shows a large number of riders had the ability to get the best out of these bikes. Sandra was on a good bike by all accounts. Being more than 4 seconds off the pace shows her true skills are in dubious (leeching) marketing techniques than that of a rider. I have immense respect for woman racers that take it to the guys, like Karel Pavich, Avalon Biddle. They earned their stripes with real skills and a hell of a lot of hard work.

As for the American girls being 3+ seconds of the pace, I've long wondered at the disparity between the top 5 riders and the rest in American national level racing. I guess it being such a large country, the costs are just too much for up and coming privateers to get a look in, so we just see the ones that have enough money to contest the series, as against the talented ones that would otherwise get a lot closer to the top 5.

[imdying]

Now I understand how I've never been voted off the island for trolling you cunts with any nasty wind up that takes my fancy... It turns out that the vast majority of you are just like me... with the notable difference that you lot are for the most part too spineless to hunt without a pack.

Love it :killingme

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[steveyb]

http://www.crash.net/bsb/news/199834/1/sheene-in-british-supersport-debut-with-quelch-afterdark.html

[Crasherfromwayback]

http://www.crash.net/bsb/news/199834/1/sheene-in-british-supersport-debut-with-quelch-afterdark.html

Got to give her her dues. Still out there doing it.

[merv]

Got to give her her dues. Still out there doing it.

Exactly :clap:

[Robert Taylor]

Got to give her her dues. Still out there doing it.

And doubtless continuing to leave a trail of debts. In light of that I certainly would refrain from wishing her every success.

[nodrog]

I wish I had a vagina.

[merv]

And doubtless continuing to leave a trail of debts. In light of that I certainly would refrain from wishing her every success.

How much she owe you big fellah? Perhaps crasher can get Casey to help settle her bills.

[Crasherfromwayback]

And doubtless continuing to leave a trail of debts. In light of that I certainly would refrain from wishing her every success.

Yeah I get she burnt people...and you'll never ever see me say that's cool. I always had to (and fully expected to) pay my own way. But the same team (is it?) has kept her on so they're obviously happy with their investment.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I wish I had a vagina.

You haven't? Bastard. All those roots I was offered! Jesus I feel dirty!

[nodrog]

You haven't? Bastard. All those roots I was offered! Jesus I feel dirty!

"Bumhole, the other vagina"

[Crasherfromwayback]

"Bumhole, the other vagina"

2nd hole from the back of the neck for me please.

[ellipsis]

2nd hole from the back of the neck for me please.

...which scale are we reading...

[Kickaha]

I wish I had a vagina.

I thought you shared a house with one?

[Mental Trousers]

I wish I had a vagina.

I thought you shared a house with one?

I thought he was one

[roogazza]

Got to give her her dues. Still out there doing it.
Yep bud , she's still out there.
Looking back at all the comments, she made a few enemies.
Lets see what we dredge up this time ? :shifty:

[ellipsis]

...it's not actually hard to be picked for what you are down here in abrasive town, nz...we are hard, for whatever reason...could be called quality control...

[nodrog]

I thought you shared a house with one?

yeah but I cant pimp that one out for a sponsored ride.


I thought he was one

I am, but when they are as tall as me they aren't very useful anymore.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yep bud , she's still out there.
Looking back at all the comments, she made a few enemies.
Lets see what we dredge up this time ? :shifty:

Well yeah. Few sets of green eyes hanging about.

[Shaun Harris]

Gaurantee you the owner of MSS Nick morgan made her pay big time for all she got from him hahahahaha

[steveyb]

http://www.iol.co.za/motoring/bikes-quads-karts/sexy-slovak-spices-up-sa-supersports-1.1584248

http://www.wpmc.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=495&catid=45&sectionid=5&Itemid=91

http://www.mylaps.com/en/events/963358 (gotta admit, while nearly last or last in every session, she got closer to the front).

http://www.amaproracing.com/rr/events/results_detail.cfm?year=2013&eid=2013011305&discipline=rr&class=XR&type=F&rnum=1&did=4650

http://www.amaproracing.com/rr/events/results.cfm?year=2013&eid=2013011305&class_sort=XR

[Katman]

I wish I had a vagina.

You're lucky you've got a pretty mouth instead.

[Robert Taylor]

How much she owe you big fellah? Perhaps crasher can get Casey to help settle her bills.

Not much and Ive written it off. But its the principle.