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nakedsv
9th March 2013, 07:30
I am looking for a little help identifying my brakes. So the rear break failed to return completely the other day ( had to pull the lever back up with my foot ). This prompted a tear down of the entire brake sysrem just to make sure it was all clean. Rear was filthy inside but cleaned up nicely. Problems started when I got to the front. My bike is a sv650 with a gsxr1000 k2 front end. So I got the calipers and master off all good and started cleaning one caliper at a time. Split the calipers, popped the pistons out (was probably the wrong method, but had to use air compressor, they were well stuck.), only to find the last person to work on them hadn't put the dust seals back around the pistons.:angry2: quick call to the suzuki store in town and a quote of $500 for new seals. So I start looking around the net only to find out gsxr1000 k2's have 6 pot tokico's and mine are only 4 pot with what seems to be the original sv650 master. So after this long winded explanation, does anyone know how to find out model numbers of brakes and or a place to get seals that isn't hugely expensive?

nathanwhite
9th March 2013, 07:35
Do you have any pictures?

nakedsv
9th March 2013, 08:25
Tokico four pot. One 30mm and one 34mm piston each side.
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On the inside of the calipers it has 6-8 raised on the big piston side and lg on the small piston side, on the other side of the caliper inside, ( banjo bolt half) it has 8-9 on the small piston side.

paturoa
9th March 2013, 08:50
Looks like the original SV650 caliper to me.

Edit: just been looking at google images and they look more like the oem for sv1000.

nakedsv
9th March 2013, 09:09
I was thinking they looked like sv1000 ones, I took them into the local suzuki shop to compare and the only diference I could see where the bolts on the sv are torx head instead of hex

nakedsv
9th March 2013, 10:03
Now after looking through even more photos online I am starting to think they may be gsxr 600 brakes, they seem to have the two different sizes pistons

AllanB
9th March 2013, 10:14
$500 for seals!!!!!! get on line pronto and order from the USA or England. In fact you will pick up a complete set of GSXR brakes off ebay for a fraction of that!

HenryDorsetCase
9th March 2013, 10:42
$500 for seals!!!!!! get on line pronto and order from the USA or England. In fact you will pick up a complete set of GSXR brakes off ebay for a fraction of that!

what he said.

gwigs
9th March 2013, 14:16
$500 for seals ?They must be hand made in Japan by a Grand Master Seal maker who has trained for many years in the art of seal making.
Whats the name of the theiving dealers that want to charge that?they must be taking the piss...:eek5:

98tls
9th March 2013, 17:09
$500 for seals!!!!!! get on line pronto and order from the USA or England. In fact you will pick up a complete set of GSXR brakes off ebay for a fraction of that!

Add Stralia to that list shit i picked up a set of GSXR forks and radial calipers for 500 nicker.

CrazyFrog
10th March 2013, 05:55
If you're looking for a replacement, try this guy on TradeMe, rear caliper for $65 with worn pads.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/other/auction-569281332.htm

nakedsv
10th March 2013, 09:12
Looks like wemoto.com will be the cheapest so far, $95 for a complete seal kit including postage from the uk.

imdying
11th March 2013, 08:52
On the K2 6 piston calipers, it's ok to leave the dust seals out, helps them stop dragging. Just clean the pistons more often. You can do the same on the 4 piston calipers but it's not really worth it as in good nick they don't have a habit of dragging. If that's your only problem, just put them back together and clean them more often.

nakedsv
11th March 2013, 16:00
On the K2 6 piston calipers, it's ok to leave the dust seals out, helps them stop dragging. Just clean the pistons more often. You can do the same on the 4 piston calipers but it's not really worth it as in good nick they don't have a habit of dragging. If that's your only problem, just put them back together and clean them more often.

It was set up as a track bike before I got it, would that be a reason to leave the dust seals out? The calipers are also missing the pad cover plates off the back. My biggest worry with no dust seals was the possibility of a small stone chip or something getting jammed down in the gap left there.

imdying
11th March 2013, 19:42
Yep, that seems likely. Most of the race calipers don't even have a groove for them. Just keep them clean.

AllanB
11th March 2013, 20:24
After your post I looked up a USA Honda parts supplier - I can get caliper seal kits for about US$20 per side, plus shipping of course.

Ebay had entire GSXR1000 front calipers (pair) for US$70....................

nakedsv
12th March 2013, 04:16
Found the seals on ronayers.com for $25us too, just waiting for a reply to my email on how much shiping is. Did a quick seach on running brakes without dust seals and it seems to be common enough on track bikes, it just depends on how much of a clean they will need and how often I guess. I usually do around 500km a week so if they needed a full strip every two weeks it might get a bit tedious, but if I can clean them up well with only pulling the pads and using break cleaner then its not really a big deal. Just got the e-mail back from ronayers as I was writting this, $40-$50 just for shipping, fuck me that seems a bit steep.

imdying
12th March 2013, 09:01
Personally I would just fix the calipers if you're doing that mileage.

Keep BrakeKleen the hell away from anything rubber.

nakedsv
12th March 2013, 12:30
After your post I looked up a USA Honda parts supplier - I can get caliper seal kits for about US$20 per side, plus shipping of course.

Ebay had entire GSXR1000 front calipers (pair) for US$70....................

Where abouts is that from, or is it sorted through you? Its the cheapest price I've seen so far as long as shipping not to much. Definitely will be getting a full seal kit as I just feel dodgy running it without dust seals.

AllanB
12th March 2013, 19:29
US Honda dealer - no Suzi sorry. Shipping at that value will probably be their minimum - you could probably add 3 oil filters and a air filter to the order for the same shipping cost.

TLDV8
13th March 2013, 22:08
These are 2002 GSXR1000 forks and calipers.
I stripped them when I fit them to one of my TL's in 2003,it is important to refit the piston seals as they came out or they will drag.
You could try MRcycle in the US for parts also.
I have been using them for Suzuki parts for the last four years or so even though I try to support the local industry if I can.


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